God's not Dead 2 | Say MovieNight Kevin

[@TychoCelchu]

Kind of ironic that she is talking about Ghandi in the classroom scene. One of his most famous quotes is - “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Especially appropriate when the message of the God's Not Dead movies is something that Jesus probably wouldn't approve of. So the movie chooses to use an example of someone who wasn't a fan of the behaviour of Christians, in a movie which chooses to be incredibly dishonest. Thereby reinforcing any negative opinions that non-Christians may have about Christians. Thankfully, there are also Christians like Kevin, who recognise this dishonesty in these movies and is not afraid to call it out.

[@Nalinalinali]

Ghandi never actually said that also which is quite funny

[@christianali5431]

TychoCelchu that’s the point though. She had no intention of preaching the message of Jesus to the classroom, but a student that she helped find religion pressured her into it. So that she runs the risk of losing her job. How unfair is it to live in a world where you can talk about an outspoken agnostic Hindu like Mohandas Gandhi, but not the ministry of Jesus of Nazareth [who, when you get right down to it, simply an apocalyptic Jewish rabbi, with a message of tolerance and unification to tell the world. You know what tolerance is, don’t you? That thing that makes Democrats bend over backwards? Jesus invented that.)

[@elonmuskrat]

@@christianali5431 there is a difference in talking about a person we know existed and did a lot of good, and a person who maybe existed and didn't really do much unless your a christian

[@jademoon7938]

Got the source and the quote wrong, but you're close in terms of the message. Eh, the source and quote are actually super close too lol. It was actually Dwijendranath Tagore (Bara Dada), a different philosopher from India, who said it in the mid-1920's, and his words were, "Jesus is ideal and wonderful, but you Christians, you are not like him." You might be more familiar with Dada's brother, Rabindranath Tagore. He was a polymath and an artist, specifically a poet and musician, who won a Nobel prize in Literature (Gitanjali). Odds are you've never heard of either of them tbh lol. Dada was friends with Ghandi though. So there is at least a tenuous connection...

[@initialcreation]

@@elonmuskrat Jesus is a historical figure. Do your research.

[@nygmakemecry8453]

"Keep on loving. Stop suing people and just love people. Stop looking for proof that you're justified in not loving people." Amen Kevin. *standing ovation*

[@MrAragon131]

as a Non Christian. Thank you. If you don't adhere to your beliefs during difficult and painful times, they are not your beliefs. They are your hobbies.

[@Nothin2seehere-e4z]

Sue happy people should see this.

[@earnthis1]

we have less law suits now than we did in the 1920's. You have been perfectly manuipulated into thinking there is a problem when there isn't. I wonder why corporations and rich people would want us to think lawsuits are all bad??? I can't figure it out.

[@joshscorcher]

"Some of it is true; that's how you get people to believe a lie." Or as C.S. Lewis said: "How do you create a new truth without changing its original state? Suppress one point and exaggerate another."

[@saygoodnightkevin]

+joshscorcher mmmmm, so good!

[@guywhomstvepostgood]

MAKE MORE DYNASTY WARRIORS VIDEOS

[@ninjaoflight908]

Josh is here?! _Awesome._

[@TheBonkleFox]

Seriously. i wouldn't have known narnia and LOTR were christian things if no one had told me, and i still don't get it. says the guy who thinks dr. strange is about politics.

[@tintinismybelgian]

Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood can be about politics if you squint hard enough.

[@jimpachi98]

I notice that most characters in these movies who convert to a Christianity do so in a time of extreme distress. I'm not a Christian, but it seems odd that they would advertise their own religion as something only for people who hit rock bottom. What about the atheists who are doing just fine? How about the people who convert to Christianity because it just really rang true for them, and not cuz they were dying of cancer or some shit?

[@AOnAcid]

Kodo Elder-Groebe Yeah, I hate it when they show that as a good thing. If the only reason to be religious is to cling to some kind of false hope for a better afterlife, then everyone would pray on their death bed or switch in and out of Christianity when it feels dangerous not to. Honestly, that's kinda what I do but it isn't healthy in the slightest.

[@fleabagrusty]

And then everything is perfect when they convert. That's not how it works.

[@Quincy_Morris]

Kodo Elder-Groebe a lot of people are preaching a false gospel that "Jesus will make your life better and solve all your problems." Which is very selfish and not the gospel. A lot of people get murdered and generally persecuted after converting.

[@christianali5431]

Kodo Elder-Groebe That’s the thing though. That’s what makes Christianity so good. Jesus is there for you when shit happens.

[@NicknotNak]

Well, if your mad at God, then you just need to be nearly killed/a tragic thing happen to love him again! Seeing that *_all_* atheists actually believe in God, but are mad at him because he didn’t answer one time.

[@EmeraldDragon]

Awww, Kev, you missed it. First movie: "It is wrong for a teacher who has different beliefs from me to force those beliefs on their students!" Second movie: "This teach, who beliefs I agree with, is unfairly taken to trail for sharing her beliefs in a public school!"

[@GreatAwakeningMedia]

Did you even watch the movies, EmeraldDragon? Professor Radisson was forcing his beliefs on the students and discriminating against Josh. Miss Wesley just answered a question without sharing what she actually believed in school.

[@EmeraldDragon]

Great Awakening Media Did you feel the breeze from that point as it flew over your head?

[@GreatAwakeningMedia]

EmeraldDragon Ummmmmm, what?

[@EmeraldDragon]

Great Awakening Media Movie one: Teacher enforcing non-Christian beliefs = bad. He should die horribly. Movie two: Teach expresses a Christian idea, however bland = good. Weep for her persecution. I'm not saying they are exactly the same, I am just pointing out the unbalanced parallel.

[@GreatAwakeningMedia]

EmeraldDragon Are you referring to Professor Radisson's death? If not, I don't see any lack of balance because the parallels are so drastically different. While I don't think we were supposed to rejoice in Professor Radisson's death, it was the climax of cheesiness in the film.

[@robertbauer3023]

One thing that really bugs me about these movies is the complete misunderstanding of the "God is dead, and we have killed him" phrase. Then again, I doubt that anyone behind the production of this movie even knows who Nietzsche is.

[@thequietdreamer2186]

That implies they and their audience are not proof that Idiocracy is a documentary. But that’s none of my business... ☕️

[@NicknotNak]

I’ve seen posters of this in my local fundamentalist Christian school

[@alinastanescu4430]

@@NicknotNak I would have postet a poster with "God is dead and we have killed him"

[@Nocturnalux]

Of course they don't. But I know why they cling to "famous atheists", they expect atheists to treat them the same way they treat their own sacred cows. That's also why they talk about Darwin's "On the Origin" as if it were the "atheist bible", even down to trying to poke holes into it, as if, somehow that would disprove EVERYTHING that came long, long, long after Darwin. It's just a case of projecting. This is how they interpret texts.

[@SirToaster9330]

Pureflix: We are going to spend millions of dollars to prove that God is dead! Nietzsche in heaven: That's not what I meant Pureflix: wha...

[@ezrawyvern6795]

And this is why I consider Kevin a terrific Christian reviewer. He's a Christian who still keeps to his faith despite all the awful and I mean awful movies he's had to look at. He actually shows he knows something about the conflicts in these films that these filmmakers either bastardize or warp beyond all recognition, as well as showing he knows something more about government than they do, particularly when it comes to this... to say it nicely, drivel. His speech at the end shows that he's not one of those jerks that we hear about on the news all the time who force their beliefs on others or try to use their religion to justify any and all attempts to steal/devalue/get rid of the rights of others. For that, I consider Say Goodnight Kevin an underappreciated reviewer.

[@christianali5431]

Ezra Wyvern if he’s a Christian, why does he act like such a non-Christian when reviewing these movies? He has almost nothing good to say about this film.

[@Nok_Sul]

+Christian Ali Probably because there's almost nothing good to say about this film. Disliking this illogical garbage doesn't make anyone less of a christian.

[@Orsonfoe]

Christian Ali how is he acting like a non-Christian?

[@christianali5431]

Orsonfoe Christian people support Christian things. That’s just the way it was always supposed to work. We need to support each other, otherwise we’re alone.

[@Orsonfoe]

Christian Ali true but just cause you support Christian things doesn't mean you have to support everything that has Christianity in for whatever reason. Being critical of something that is banking on your beliefs to give it a free pass doesn't make you less of a Christian. That is what he is doing. he not going to let a bad film pass just cause it says it about the struggle of Christianity in America and it does nothing of the sort. it is a bad movie.

[@redblaze8700]

The sequels: - God's Not D3ad - God's Not Dead: Tokyo Drift - God's Not Dead: The Last Crusade - God's Not Dead: Judgment Day - God's Not Dead: Resurrection - A God Day To Not Die Hard - GodCop - Captain Jesus: The Fist Christian - Guardians Of Heaven - God V. Satan: Dawn Of Godlessness - God Of Steel - God's Expendables - Rogue One: An Atheist Story - Atheist Squad And at last but not least............... - The Christian Knight Rises

[@lukecovey14]

Red Blaze this was incredible and had me rolling laughing!

[@joeldurham2891]

This is amazing

[@redtopaz]

My favorites were "God's Not Dead: Tokyo Drift" and "A God Day to Not Die Hard." A+++

[@anneoneal3865]

Red Blaze Seeing as the third God's Not Dead movie is coming out this year, how about.... God's Not Dead 3.33-- You Can (Not) Redo.

[@MrMatthias]

"A God Day to Not Die Hard" 😂😂😂😂😂

[@DavidMSchell]

I taught English for six months in a public school. There was a history teacher across the hall from me. She taught about Christianity. I was homeschooled, so I didn't know you were allowed to do that, but APPARENTLY religions are a major part of why things happened in history. Who could've seen that coming?!

[@alexmcbride7563]

Your absolutely right. I attended a public school growing up and we were taught the basic fundamental beliefs of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam since all three religions played a major role in shaping modern human history. You had the major Christian and Islamic empires that shaped the political landscape all across India, Northern Africa, the Middle East, and Europe. It was important for us to learn about these religions as they served as context for how these religions influenced human history.

[@tintinismybelgian]

Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism shaped a lot of India's history.

[@DeviantDork]

Gross

[@De-Nigma]

"What makes non-violence so radical, is its unwavering commitment to a non-violent approach." That line was in the trailer: that was a line they thought would advertise this movie.

[@saygoodnightkevin]

+Daniel Pettingale the non-violent person is non-violent!

[@spencerandersen271]

That's like saying "What makes Walmart and Big Lots so cheap are their cheap prices on just about everything." Okay but WHY do Walmart and Big Lots have those cheap prices? If you did the actual economics research you'd find the reason. You can't resort to circular reasoning to defend your arguments.

[@JadeEyes1]

The only way it would have been better is if she'd said, "its unwavering commitment to a radically non-violent approach".

[@blixer8384]

No public defender in the United States would act like this, he would be begging her to take a plea deal or something because he has hundreds of other clients he has to see

[@samgreenblatt7074]

Ikr? Who is this guy, Phoenix Wright: Christian Attorney?

[@quickattackfilms7923]

I love how at 45:31 those people were just standing there quietly and she says "God's NOT dead!" and they all go "WHOOOOOOO!" like the court case decided whether God was dead or not."Sorry, guys. She lost the court case. Turns out God's dead." "Awwww..."

[@Fallout2Forever]

Kevin, I've said it before, and I'll say it again. People like you are the reason an athiest like me isn't anti-theist. You're also extremely entertaining. Please, keep being who you are.

[@saygoodnightkevin]

[@DeviantDork]

I'm definitely anti-theist, I'm not into hate.

[@Fallout2Forever]

@@DeviantDork Kevin isn't a hateful person.

[@emelias8720]

I can quote Harry Potter, but that doesn't mean I believe there is a secret world of wizards and try to enter it by smashing into the bricks between platform 9 and 10 in King's Cross Station. I can also quote some parts of the Koran... because I learned about it in school...

[@tintinismybelgian]

Likewise, people can quote parts of *ET* , but it doesn't make them tin-foil-hat-wearing UFOlogists.

[@kirielbranson4843]

Emelia Seybert How do you know? Have you tried running at the pillar between the platforms?

[@jsin3127]

I don't know, the more I quote John Oliver the more I believe I have a successful HBO show. And I haven't prepared anything for my episode this weekend.

[@KaleLikesWaffles]

My teacher put in his syllabus a bible verse on how to treat others. Nothing happened to him. YOUR TRYING TO HARD MOVIE

[@DemonicRemption]

@KaleLikesWaffles No, they're not trying hard enough given the narrative inconsistencies all just to promote empty propaganda...

[@zacharysiple629]

What was the verse? Matthew 7:12/Luke 6:31 or something different?

[@jacobfromallstate4963]

I was an atheist in highschool. Even highschool me knew there was absolutely nothing wrong with that at all

[@fieldsofknowledge1658]

This reminds of when I had a science teacher in a public Junior High that openly denounced evolution and the big bang theory and taught Creationism. Nothing ever happened to him. This movie is definitely reaching.

[@TJ-kk5zf]

I teach a college humanities course with bible stories. this movie is propaganda

[@stormyphillips251]

A. No non-Christian would be so care free about the loss of a family member. It's not like only Christians have feelings. B. Being a Christian doesn't mean you have it all together. Things can still bother/hurt/upset you even when you're a Christian. God never said we had to have it all together. He just wants us to trust that He can help us stay upright when we feel like we're going to crumble. I'm only 8:23 into this movie and I'm already seeing major plot problems.

[@stormyphillips251]

12:20- That 'punk' kid is Spencer Kane of Anthem Lights. *throws papers in air* I'm done.

[@stormyphillips251]

What do moments of silence for people have to do with Christianity? That's not religion, that's respect?

[@stormyphillips251]

The principal trying to tell the student she's not allowed contact with the teacher? That's not? That can't be possible, surely. There's no way that's legit.

[@stormyphillips251]

Alan Powell of Anthem Lights was also in this. #Done

[@stormyphillips251]

God. Does not. Need you to defend Him. Stop trying to assume He does. *eye rolls intensely*

[@CloverLane98]

"is this the young turks?" hahahaha i had to pause the video just to take a moment and appreciate the brilliance of that sentence.

[@jessicacannon2416]

As a teacher, I can personally say we are not under attack in the system. Also, I have yet to hear of a school with rules against answering questions involving critical thinking concerning religion. Their issue with religion primarily is when it is used to justify negative behavior such as Bible shoving, destructive criticism and misplaced judging. We give ourselves a bad name. Your idea for a film at the end of the movie would be excellent because it would not only be an opportunity to tell a story about caring about others but also about an educator's impact. Thank you for all your work. I look forward to your later pieces. By the way, you should review Ragamuffin. I think you would have fun with it.

[@ReplayStation]

After a while, I think, 'Man, criticizing Christian movies is picking some pretty low-hanging fruit...' But, you make a good point in saying that people need to stand up and say that these movies are ridiculous propaganda pieces that make every non-believer into looking like they're evil... which is exactly what leads to them disliking Christians to begin with. Movies like this are self-defeating. Jesus never lived with that 'us vs. them' mentality, it was 'us FOR them'. Jesus didn't come to condemn the world, so why are his followers so bent on doing it? Once again, great review.

[@jakfan09]

Honestly, I'm glad he's doing it. Pretty much the only people that call out these films are him, Cinema Snob and The Bible Releoded. When you compare it to all the other bad films that get made fun of, not many people are doing it.

[@SmangItDrums]

+Mi Les "if they have a 'good life' what is there to convince them of?" Convince us of what? That you believe there is some higher power? Why do you feel the need to convince atheists of your personal beliefs. That IS WHY they're called beliefs on the first place. Also why is it a problem that we believe that we're responsible for our own life decisions as opposed to a deity of some sort? If this is in any way worrisome to you, then you have a much bigger problem than you think. Also, I love the fact that you say that atheists aren't evil yet they're not "righteous." No offense, but when you put it that way, I just can't take it seriously. At all.

[@ReplayStation]

+Cameron Alidor The Bible actually says that none are righteous. (but we are made right with God through Jesus) Telling people about Jesus isn't about trying to sell them something or win a debate. It's about sharing something that changed my life through love. I don't believe my faith absolves me of personal responsibility, in fact, it makes it more heightened. I answer to God and myself and others that watch me, looking at me as a Christ follower. I don't really like when movies like this paint Jesus as a magic everything-is-perfect-now button. That's not reality. I've gone through really bad situations despite my faith. My faith gives me hope for a future better than I have now, and better than I would have without him.

[@SmangItDrums]

ReplayStationShow "The Bible actually says that none are righteous. (but we are made right with God through Jesus)" I know it does. I don't believe in your god or the Bible, so this does not apply to me. "Telling people about Jesus isn't about trying to sell them something or win a debate. It's about sharing something that changed my life through love." And that's good for you. My point wasn't to demonize you for your beliefs. My point is that atheists simply want to live their lives without being evangelized to. To some people (religious, that is), that's too much to ask. "I don't believe my faith absolves me of personal responsibility, in fact, it makes it more heightened. I answer to God and myself and others that watch me, looking at me as a Christ follower." Good for you, more power to you. I don't operate that way, but that doesn't detract from how you live your life. "I don't really like when movies like this paint Jesus as a magic everything-is-perfect-now button. That's not reality. I've gone through really bad situations despite my faith. My faith gives me hope for a future better than I have now, and better than I would have without him." Unfortunately, that's just about all of Christian cinema for you. That's the point of a propaganda piece. There are many ways that a movie can be made with a strong, inspiration message that can be religious (or even not include religion). Even more so, there are movies that can be inspirational without having to demonize and/or caricature nonbelievers with an aim at making theists look pious, self-righteous, gullible, etc. And again as far as your faith, good for you. As an atheist, I'm not offended by how you live. I could honestly care less, as your beliefs don't affect me one bit. Pureflix, on the other hand, cares GREATLY about my personal beliefs to the point of making a movie franchise designed from teh ground up to make atheists look like cartoon villains with a vindictive bent on taking down religion. This movie and plenty of others are prime examples of this.

[@duckymomo7935]

+Cameron Alidor The gospel means good news, would it not be wrong to not share good news? My goal is not to win you over but to convince for you turn to God, the giver of life, the everlasting life and to walk with him. Do you not want that? You just have to trust that Jesus indeed came, died for your sins and came back to life. Our beliefs is not for this world but for the coming promise. So your question of benefit makes no sense. If you store up treasures here then you die and that's it. Gods treasures are far better for everyone who believes in his Son.

[@zeldaofarel]

This movie pretends that no word of Jesus is ever said in a public school.

[@kayhaven4710]

Zelda of Arel like have they even heard of cursing?

[@dougputhoff]

Last week I watched this movie. My biggest gripe about it was that it reminded me of another, much, much, MUCH better movie, "Inherit the Wind." (You should review this movie soon, Kev.) This movie takes place in the 1920s. A teacher is arrested and put on trial for teaching Darwin's Theory of Evolution. One major scene in that movie was when the defense (this was a criminal trial) brings in a slew of witnesses who support Darwin's Theory of Evolution, but the prosecution objects because the point of the trial wasn't whether or not evolution was real but whether or not it was legal to teach it. The trial in "God's Not Dead 2" shouldn't have been that Jesus actually existed but whether or not it's legal to discuss Him and His teachings in a public school. The scriptwriter completely missed his own point.

[@zacharysiple629]

I think Inherit The Wind is basically GND 1 and 2 inverted. Yes, ITW is MUCH better, but still. You really see that when you research how the ACTUAL Scopes Trial went.

[@cjcasey8341]

as an atheist i think you need more subs, we have disagreements but you seem to enjoy your job and you are legitemently fun to watch.

[@morganyoung3557]

Grace could have just brought up the fact that she was talking about Martin Luther King Jr who was a minister and say that she was talking about what inspired him to take his non violent stance which is pretty much true and is about history.

[@bg6b7bft]

Your comedic timing is on point, Kevin. The car commercial in the middle of your rant about product placement was pure gold.

[@juliochavez1308]

YOUR AD PLACEMENT IS HILARIOUS XD

[@nygmakemecry8453]

The second I saw the words "God's Not Dead 2 - Say MovieNight Kevin" in my notifications, my face immediately lit up with joy!

[@tdogg1515]

Such an underrated channel

[@staceyj3667]

Haven’t been to a church service in a good while but your final commentary was a meaningful message for me. Thank you.

[@TheMrAshley2010]

"Let's just hope the pastor doesn't ask them to bake him a cake." Too funny! Good one Kevin!!!.

[@AnneIllustrating]

17:56 You actually say "witchhunt" when referring to the "victim" of this movie? I think you should have saved your earlier Sabrina joke for this term.

[@saygoodnightkevin]

Holy crap. How did I not catch that. This movie burned my brain up so much that I completely missed it. hahaha.

[@troyschulz2318]

Yup, a movie like this can do that to someone.

[@javierpizarro9852]

Love the Dirty film/Pure Flix overreaction joke every time...it's so good.

[@Outrider74]

The whole thing was a bogus premise. If a student initiates a question regarding religion-Christianity or otherwise-the teacher has full right to answer accordingly, so long as that answer does not proselytize. What Melissa Joan Hart's character did should have been shrugged and ignored. As a teacher, I know this firsthand.

[@MrAragon131]

As someone who has fought against Christian preaching in her public school of Oak Harbor WA, I have to say to NOT include a discussion (or mention) of MLK's Christian beliefs which were a huge part of his devotion to non violence would be deny context and render the lesson incomplete. I felt like MJH's response was accurate and in context. I had no problem with it. And I'm someone who was kicked off cross country because I refused to join in prayer prior to competitions.

[@cassiedevereaux-smith3890]

The next one is going to make me die a little inside. I'm wondering if they're going to mention that in Houston A: The concern for which the those specific five pastor's sermon notes were subpoenaed was incitement to violence. B: It was five pastors out of the entire city of Houston, not a blanket subpoena. Or C: whatever the reasons may have been, and whether they were right or wrong, public outcry was such that the mayor backed off. Thus implying that maybe this persecution the franchise is trying to sell isn't really a thing, because elected officials have to answer to the vast Christian majority who aren't about to have it.

[@christiandudesayingthings1218]

Thank you! If that scenario had indeed happened, she would be right to protest against a ludicrous school policy. She even said something to the effect of 'the words attributed to Jesus by the writer of the gospel of Matthew,' which is a completely neutral statement. The problem is that this scenario would never happen in like 99.9% of schools, yet it's being represented as though it's a major problem in America.

[@jayblade2000]

THAT'S WHAT IVE SEEN SAYING EVER SINCE I WATCHED THIS MOVIE! THANK YOU!

[@wolfwing1]

yeah, though I do question her ethics in bringing up jesus before hand, I'm a bit unsure of that, as well that could be seen as her going too far. And anyone else find it funny how they just ignore the ACTUAL violation of law/constitution like 30 seconds later, with the coach leading prayers....ummmm that acually is not allowed, that is ignored, but OMG teacher answers student question in the mot benign way evah!!! CRUCIFY HER!.

[@adrienfourniercom]

Soon "Good's not dead 3" plot: school banes the "+" in math class because it's a cross.

[@kata1261]

I love the "IT'S CHRISTIAAAAAAAAAANNNN" dance breaks so much. This one was especially good because the buildup was so very on point. I high-key stan these moments- I say the line and dance along to the music and everything, because I have IsSuEs. 44:49 I'm just gonna put this here for... reasons.

[@MrAlcazar]

Wow! That was a really good speech at the end. It's good to see a christian who is not afraid to call these movies out for what they are, and that's manipulative, overblown, and just cartoonish. It makes both atheist and theist angry, because the movie only showcases the worst of the two groups, who are not the majority.

[@MrAlcazar]

True.

[@lakedodson817]

Dynamic pastor duo!? Come on Kevin, you must call them by their proper name.....BIRACIAL PASTORAL BROMANCE!

[@carsonheschle642]

This comment is everything.

[@beautifulsunflower8349]

The accuracy of this comment😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣

[@silverchord5790]

Honestly the African pastor was the only good character in this entire movie series

[@tarynwilson1223]

I love your reviews!!! When I hear about these Christian movies from people at my church they praise them because they support the themes. When the first Gods not Dead came out a woman at my church asked if I saw it and I said "No I heard it wasn't that good" and she said "Well most reviewers are not Christian" and it makes me so mad!!!! If a movies bad its bad it has nothing to do with beliefs!!!!

[@djvoldemort1]

+Vlavitir glutginskiya that and the movie sucks. just because it's Christian doesn't make it good.

[@610garage]

"Isn't that what Jesus sorta meant when he said that we should love our enemies?" NO! NO! NO! No freaking no!!!! If one were to actually read Matthew 5:43-48, one would find that what Jesus was not talking about non violence, but was saying to not HATE your enemy. That would be like somone pointing a gun to my head and I say, well, I could kill you, but Jesus said to love my enemies, so I can't and now I die. NO! What would be correct is trying all other paths to get that person to not shoot me in the head, but upon failure of those paths, killing the guy trying to kill me. What would be wrong is to kill that person out of vengeance. That would be hate, and not loving of my enemy. And this is pretty ironic because this whole movie seems to be hating non deliveries which is exactly what this verse is saying not to do. ARE THESE WRITERS EVEN CHRISTIANS? P.S. Sorry for the yelling.

[@ThomasDunnn]

This is way to deep to be in the KZbin comment section

[@MrAragon131]

Thank you for your thoughtful and intellectual approach to Scripture. I was debating with an old classmate about food banks and said "Didn't Jesus teach you to care for the poor?" "no! he said charity should be in the heart, meaning you should never do something unless you WANT to do it" I really don't think that's what Jesus meant. It would be wholly inconsistent with literally everything he taught.

[@jayblade2000]

Because the writers are cherry-picking people who claim to be Christians, and saw a huge cash-grab. My Christian college went to go see this movie instead of Zootopia, a much better movie, and so I suffered in silence.

[@spencerandersen271]

jayblade2000 Zootopia was a ruddy great movie. I actually read an article where it was used as a teaching tool for CST (Catholic social teaching).

[@610garage]

Man, I must be one of the only people who didn't like Zootopia. jayblade2000 Thats what I wonder. Are they picking people who are actually christian, or are they just cheap, b rated writers who are just told to write a "christian" movie. Everything makes more sense if the latter is true. :)

[@Nalinalinali]

Videos like this really do accomplish a lot, not necessarily for the mom who is set in what they think but for some of my friends who's parents are shut of to basically anything, I can show them stuff like,this and it really helps show them that they can seek to understand past "well my mom said it was right!"

[@autumnhobbit]

Ohhhh boy.....this'll be a doozy. I'm still just mindblown that they actually cured cancer-girl through the intercession of the Newsboys. I just....

[@troyschulz2318]

Hey, knowing Christian rock bands can go a LONG way. Once I met Skillet in Toronto, immediately was cured of my diabetes, and proceeded to win the lottery the next day.

[@autumnhobbit]

+Sting SniperScope I burst out laughing when I read your response.

[@stephenahern]

+Sting SniperScope I hit my head, thanks a lot.

[@troyschulz2318]

autumn hobbit Thank you thank you, I'll be here all week.

[@troyschulz2318]

Stephen Ahern I have some Band-Aids if you need any.

[@micahhartzog]

52 minutes? praise. God.

[@bettyjojoeharperre-imagina7322]

Right?!

[@saygoodnightkevin]

haha. This was seriously my biggest fear with this review. Even though I felt I had even more I could say about the film, I thought if I made it so long, people would hate me. SO, it's nice to hear people like the longer review. (even though I don't think I'll do it so long again in a while. It really lengthened my production time. haha.)

[@bettyjojoeharperre-imagina7322]

+Say Goodnight Kevin Well, as a long time Brad jones and Walker brothers fan, I appreciate the effort it takes to make long reviews. I'll watch your show whatever the length but I really appreciate how long and how much planning this one must've taken. Thank you so much.

[@aubri9578]

My thoughts exactly

[@Nocturnalux]

"That's the problem with atheism, doesn't take the pain, just takes away the hope". I don't even know where to start, surely he knows that 'atheism' doesn't have to mitigate pain, it is simply a position on a single subject. And the right to believe is the greatest right ever? Sure, more than the right to life?

[@anneoneal3865]

Nocturnalux "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness"?? What's that??

[@sassylittleprophet]

"That's the problem with atheism, doesn't take away the pain, just takes away the hope." As an exfundamentalist Christian-turned-atheist, it's true that atheism doesn't take away the pain. But Christianity only compounded my pain by giving me false hope, so... I would rather believe the ugly truth than a beautiful lie. God was my (abusive) imaginary friend whose hand I held until I was ready to be on my own. And I'm better off for it. Life is life regardless of what you believe, sometimes it's good, sometimes it sucks -- it's all over the place, it's not better because you're a Christian or worse because you're an atheist, or viceversa. Life just is, you have times of joy and suffering regardless.

[@JNB0723]

@@sassylittleprophet well said. I have deconstructed years ago... BEST DECISION EVER

[@KatalinaPearlMancini]

There's going to be a God's Not Dead 3? I guess that means that God's Not Dead's Not Dead.

[@LimeyLassen]

2 God 2 Not Dead

[@chipio]

32:54 Best placement of a midroll ad ever.

[@saygoodnightkevin]

:-D

[@shaelynfritzler7290]

This whole movie is a joke, and that's coming from me, Christian. In my history class we're talking about colonialism in America and we use scripture all the time, cause religion was a main push factor from England because the colonists had been persecuted, somethin somethin about Puritanism or whatever, I never said that I was good in the class! The Bible is part of human history you can't just ignore it because some people would possibly, but not likely, get offended. Social Studies is just one of those classes where you use and talk about religious documents, not just the bible but the Quran, the works of Hinduism, the Torah, etc. its just unavoidable. Two years ago, my school had huge protests against history book censorship, so clearly this type of thing would be uncalled for to tons and tons of people.

[@Nathan-yu7cu]

I want a gods not dead 3 just so I can hear you rant about it!

[@jokerman9623]

this

[@AlbinoTuxedo]

Nathan Pureflix's gotcha covered boy, It's coming. I dont know when exactly, but they announced it.

[@tintinismybelgian]

30 March 2018

[@claireverdoorn2474]

It’s happening...

[@claireverdoorn2474]

It’s happening!

[@DemonicRemption]

Kevin:"It's pretty funny when I'm watching something. Enjoying it. And then suddenly I'm being advertised to..." *Video is interrupted by a youtube placed ad* Me:"Well played, Kevin... Well played..."

[@indumatipngtuber2790]

This is one of the best reviews of this awful movie I've seen yet. I hope you get a lot more support. ...Sadly, promoting the persecution complex and telling massive lies about politics that don't agree with fundies and resorting to demagoguery and deception is fairly commonplace, despite that resorting to such tactics to promote any sort of ideal proves to me that the person doesn't actually care about the ideals they claim to profess, but about themselves and their personal gain and are basically resorting to manipulation and trickery to take advantage of their supporters while silencing criticism against them.

[@spencerandersen271]

As always, Kevin, you are the voice of reason. Just wanted to also say that I hate how these movies make the secular school/university environment look like the Spanish Inquisition or the Mafia. ("ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!" is a line reserved for shows like 24, not movies like this). By the way, it's a fact that God's Not Dead 2 got *worse* reviews than Sex and the City 2 on Metacritic. When I told my pastor this, he laughed. Sad. In my experience, I've actually met a lot of nice people in my community college. As embarrassing as it sounds, the non-Christians I've met ended up being waaaaay nicer than many "Christians" I've encountered. Yes, people do cuss a lot. Yes, people do things I personally don't want to do (like vape). But they aren't evil people intent on destroying my faith. In fact, I would argue my faith has grown stronger. Believe it or not, the guy at 39:50 spoke at my graduation. Great speaker, but ended up in a not-so-great movie. God bless you and what you do.

[@JordanTaylorVideos]

like if you wish your name was Kevin Jr. and wish Kevin was your father who every time you got up from family movie night to go to sleep Kevin would reprimand you with "SAY GOODNIGHT, KEVIN!!!"

[@bettyjojoeharperre-imagina7322]

Lmbo, you're insane!

[@KennyChilders97]

I'm naming my kid Kevin now.

[@K2SonicFan]

My name is Kevin, and i'm a JR(why I put K2 in my username) xD

[@K2SonicFan]

and I was named after my father.

[@humbled_bones]

* A Wild Jordan Taylor appears. Catch it? YES No

[@jillianlane1343]

Gosh Kevin, that last part. Very well said! Loved the review!!

[@ThomasDunnn]

I agree

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

That's an understatement

[@kugelmugel4505]

The ACLU actually came to the defense of those Houston pastors.

[@reaganbartels9993]

Yeah, that bugged me so much that the movie was saying that the ACLU would come to the assistance of people trying to suppress freedom of religion and freedom of speech. It almost says something about the creators that they think organizations are willing to compromise their projected goals and values in order to push an agenda.

[@jge8144]

Didn't one also threaten to sue a school b/c one teacher took a student's Bible he was reading during recess?

[@jge8144]

@@reaganbartels9993 They even defended a Christian woman of wearing a headcovering when she went to visit her brother in prison.

[@ktflm]

CREDITS: This movie is based on real-life cases that: 1. Are nothing like the "case" we just showed you and are more accurate representations of persecution. Which we could have used more of our source material from but we didn't we just made scenarios up or took "artistic license" with the perfectly good examples that already existed. OR 2. Cases that were handled entirely wrong by the plaintiffs or "good guy" and were widely misconstrued to the public through both "leftist" and "right-winged" media, depending on your worldview. *Take your pic.

[@dimitri-ramos]

Do you really think that teachers are overpaid? My mom is a kindergarten teacher and she makes very little for all of the hard work and dedication she puts in. She is definitely not being OVERpaid

[@saygoodnightkevin]

+Dimitri Ramos she should renegotiate!

[@mymyhi9921]

@@saygoodnightkevin and get fired for it

[@Arkatox]

33:03 I assume I'd get that joke if I didn't have KZbin Red.

[@anthonybender9038]

I assume I'd get that joke if I didn't have Ad Block

[@BubblesZap]

I assume I'd get that joke if I updated my KZbin app in the last year. I like the old set up and I'm not changing to that new app set up any time soon.

[@Pizzaboyjakob]

Arkatox Yeah it was pretty funny how at the specific point an ad decided to pop up.

[@ralphmasucci9005]

Lol rich kid. Get kn ghetto and see how hard u white oppressors ard doing to us blacks. Jk this is a joke

[@modsme]

Good use of the Jonah story in your closing arguments.

[@theimprobableone8635]

I agree, very well done, Kevin.

[@hotchocolateprofessional13]

+

[@ajerqureshi6411]

Why do I get the feeling I could churn out a better Christian movie despite being Muslim? I mean, yeah, because I'm not a Christian I don't have any real personal experience with the Christian religion. But considering that the teachings of Islam and Christianity are almost the exact same (only real difference being we don't believe that God has partners or a son), I feel I could come up with a much more fair, respectable, unbiased movie about the Christian faith. Here's an idea I have (bear with me, I'm making this up as I go. Also I'm using "he" but this could very well apply to a "she"), it's about a Christian who's a little TOO Christian (As in the "I'm right, everybody's wrong mentality"). Anyway, he ends up in a situation where things are going bad for him (losing his job, his home, recent tragedy, you get the idea) and he's starting to give up on himself because despite hours, days, weeks of praying and other Christian practices, things just aren't working for him. But then he meets either a younger Christian or an Aethiest or maybe a Muslim, someone the main character never would consider a "good" christian like himself. This new friend ends up helping him out, teaching a lesson that everybody needs to learn nowadays about religion. Faith is about being a good person, regardless of how you believe. It's one thing to say you're Christian, or do Christian things, but it means nothing if you reject other people and their thoughts. As a Christian, you should be welcoming to your neighbors and friends, regardless of race, gender, religion, whatnot. In the end, our main character has an Ebenezer Scrooge moment and ends up making things right simply by talking to people and finding the solutions with their help. Short version: Guy believes Christianity is the way and doesn't need help from anyone who thinks differently than him. His life goes to shit. He's about to give up. But he meets a new friend who teaches him the true meaning of faith and religion. So what do you guys think? Decent idea? Especially one coming from a Muslim instead of a Christian? Let me know if you'd like to see this become a movie or something. Or maybe you have ideas of your own. Go ahead and share them.

[@tintinismybelgian]

Your idea's pretty vague at this point, but it could be developed further if you so chose. Perhaps, if/since your life experience as a Muslim would make writing a story about a Muslim character easier, perhaps you could/should make the protagonist Muslim, rather than Christian.

[@Merinkous]

Sell it to Pure Flix!

[@stargazer1778]

Sounds like a more compelling story then the ones Pureflix cranks out.

[@ajerqureshi6411]

@@tintinismybelgian Late reply to this, but I can see your point. I'm not exactly the most "devout" Muslim though, so I can't really speak from experience what a super strict Muslim is like (plus I don't want to have a character that's centered around the rather harsh stereotypes about their culture.) Besides, from a marketing standpoint in America, would people really want to see a movie about a Muslim lead character being taught to be better by a Christain? Besides, the Muslim community tends to have a very...mixed opinion about the usage of media to promote faith.

[@ninjaked1265]

I’m thinking of a movie where the protagonist is a bad Christian, the stereotypical Bible thumping one, and the antagonist is perceived by the audience as an atheist because he/she is against the protagonist. But in the end it’s revealed that the antagonist is a Christian the whole time and was calling out the protagonist’s bullshit.

[@gearsandscalpels376]

I binge watch you all the time! You are criminally underrated! KEEP IT UP FAM

[@saygoodnightkevin]

+gearsandscalpels

[@SomeSomeCruzz00]

I'm waiting until these guys make their own tv show in the vein of captain planet. I can see it now "Captain Christian! Hes our hero, he'll take those atheists down to zero! He's our faith, magnified and he's fighting on Christ Jesus' side!

[@SomeSomeCruzz00]

Anthony Lockhart oh yeah.

[@jayblade2000]

I now need to make a parody of this. I....I need this. The sad thing is some people would actually like it.

[@YourObedientSandwichAHam]

Hey, Bibleman was semi-successful.

[@TheLastHylianTitan]

That would be great, but instead of being heavy handed and blatantly one sided, it’s about Captain Christian coming to terms with both the evil of the world and people of different or no faith, so over time it becomes incredibly subversive and meaningful because Captain Christian learns to balance his humanity with his religious beliefs.

[@houston-coley]

Ralphthemoviemaker's God's Not Dead 2 review AND Kevin's review on the SAME DAY?! This must be the best day of my life.

[@theheartlessgenius9067]

Harambe's not dead he's surely alive!!!

[@AndyBailes895]

:) Now, let it die.

[@aubri9578]

noooooooo

[@troyschulz2318]

(Cries for Humanity)

[@timothymcguire5126]

He will live forever as a dank meme

[@troyschulz2318]

***** Get out, leave.

[@RabbitTrailProds]

Placing the advertisement in the center of this video, right after your commentary about enjoying something and then being advertised to...is truly the stuff of pure genius. Clever, Kevin, clever.

[@deborah8750]

Normally, I groan whenever an ad pops up midway through a video, but oh my gosh! XD Genius idea, Kevin! A++++

[@OkCatholics]

I came here from Josh Keefe's video on "Why Christian Movies are BAD," and I am LOVING every second of your review.

[@saygoodnightkevin]

Awesome! His video is amazing, isn't it? I can't wait for him to do more! Thanks for letting me know. I've had a few people tell me that, and it's awesome!

[@OkCatholics]

That's exactly what I commented on his video! I really hope he comes back and does more critical analysis of what has become an "industry" of Christianity in America. This persecution/victim/martyr complex has GOT to stop.

[@elizabethashley42]

Me, glancing at phone notification: Ooooo Kevin has a new video! Me, opening video: asdfghjkl 52 MINUTES?! IT'S CHRISTMAS! Me, having watched the review: Aaaahhh yes, good stuff. Worth the wait. I died laughing at the ad placement joke.

[@tauronmitronion377]

IIIIIT'S CHRIIIIIIISTMAAAAAS!

[@danwilliams1989]

11:27 - I just noticed that's the same actress who plays Erica Goldberg on "The Goldbergs."

[@MsRabblerouser]

That awkward moment when the sponsor of these Christian movies, the Alliance Defending Freedom Foundation, is listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center..

[@meghanphillips3495]

Vlavitir glutginskiya No, it's not

[@justinstark5732]

In all fairness, they're the same group who've labeled pepe the frog as a hate symbol

[@jac_238]

Justin Stark I know this is an old comment but that was actually the Anti Semitism League or something like that

[@abrahemsamander3967]

I don’t trust the southern poverty law center after they labeled Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a woman who suffered mutilation, an “anti Muslim extremist.” Sure they deleted the list but only after backlash, I don’t trust the way they gather information in the first place. The movies these people make are still stupid though.

[@reaganbartels9993]

@@justinstark5732 That's because Pepe is used as a dog-whistle by neo-Nazis

[@aliceduren6542]

The last part about loving and not fighting . . . couldn't have said it better myself. Great review!

[@aarishowton8037]

As an agnostic liberal watching this for like the sixth time (as I do most of Kevin’s videos), Kevin is the best Christian ever

[@saygoodnightkevin]

You made my day! :-)

[@JP2GiannaT]

My husband is a public school teacher. There's literally a poster of psalm 23 in the teacher bathroom at his school. And the legal procedure in this is garbage.

[@pokeythescowlingcat6221]

"I'm too agnostic to know what the Salvation Army is"

[@troyschulz2318]

Thank you Kevin, for making my day. I have waited SO LONG for this. A perfect way to end an otherwise average summer.

[@sarahr9192]

The moment you said "I hate being advertised to," an ad popped up lol

[@saygoodnightkevin]

+Sarah R :-) I'm a real witty one!

[@KennyChilders97]

Loved all your thoughts on this! Great job and really insightful and fair analysis! Your videos are always super encouraging.

[@saygoodnightkevin]

:-D Thanks so much!

[@KennyChilders97]

No problem!

[@MrAragon131]

Love your comments at 30.24 there was an instance several years ago where a man was talking about Religion on Fox news when the reporter asked him about his personal beliefs and he mentioned that was Muslim and she went insane saying "how can you talk about Christianity?!" He pointed as a the head of religious studies at a Ivy League school KNOWING about religion was literally his job.

[@KraziNoobXbl]

"it's funny when I'm sitting there watching something, and then suddenly I'm being advertised to" ad plays. I DIED 😂😂😂😂😂

[@NotOfTroy]

Also when he talked about being advertised to, an ad popped up XD

[@patricktakata2628]

I LOVE THIS we waited SO LONG for your next review and you did not disappoint Kevin

[@TheMandalore4]

the most radical part of circles is how circular they are

[@Socoolgirl94]

Yaaaay! It's out, and it's even better than I imagined. Good job taking this apart and for your humor....once you did the Pure Flix Joke at the beginning I knew this would be gold. Keep this up, Kevin, you make my day! :D

[@Jarod-vg9wq]

33:37 as cinema snob said the law says in order for a religious organization to keep their tax exemption they must turn in the sermon transcripts to show the church or place of worship is not endorsing a political candidate. But I guess they left that TINY thing out.

[@DarthxErik]

Loved the Marvel/Thor references. Please continue that. ;P Oh man. That, I think, was your best review yet. I was laughing out loud and legitimately doing mental gymnastics throughout. 👏🏼

[@OneWay4D73]

Here's the dissonance. At LU, Falwell Sr. coined the phrase, "If it's Christian, it ought to be better." The problem is that my school had some part in "Saving Christmas" and showed the trailer for this movie the week before it released in theaters. I don't know who in the admin allows this to happen, and I'm really annoyed by it. One of my roommates is a cinematography major, and he despises these movies, so why does it keep happening?

[@DLAbaoaqu]

From what I've seen they're putting the message ahead of competent filmmaking.

[@OneWay4D73]

which clouds the message, and that is the ironic part

[@MrAragon131]

Ben my personal theory as a screen writer and someone who write about film for The Hollywood Reporter is this, Christian films demand to be judged exclusively on their intentions which is (allegedly) defend faith and promote Christianity beliefs. Which is similar to saying "Support my restaurant because my meals are healthy" but what is your food is TERRIBLE? Doesn't matter how healthy it is I don't want to eat it!. I don't care what your message is, I will still judge you on story and coherence.

[@OneWay4D73]

MrAragon131 Couldn't agree more.

[@spencerandersen271]

This mentality sounds more like "If it ain't Scottish it's CRAHP!" than sharing the Gospel through the arts.

[@kendrikrichmond5433]

Kevin, I searched every single day for you to post! Thanks so much for making it a long one. I really loved the lawyer, he was freaking awesome. I hope to see him in better movies; especially since his acting felt so out of place with the protagonist and witnesses. I hated them bringing the previous movie's characters, they are so annoying especially cancer girl!

[@Charlotte4Short]

It's here!... It's here! It's here! It's here!

[@inklings_press]

I saw this in a pre-release screening and thought basically the same things as you. SO ticked when the ex-vegan, ex-athiest journalist's cancer got healed (I'm assuming) simply bc she became a Christian. I also loved the fact that it was only implied that the hot lawyer became a Christian at the end - that was sooo much more realistic. And when they revealed the cross on the girl's neck, I literally whispered under my breath, "IT'S CHRISTIAAAAAAAANNNNNNNN!!!" Oh and THANK YOU for that final soapbox. It's what I've learned over the last year, being on the receiving end of an absence of love. Great review!

[@mr.mcdaniel96mccord41]

I think I'm starting to get what you're saying about these Christian movies. I'm also a Christian, and hope that more people get to know Jesus Christ, but these movies keep jamming it in there instead of like you said " telling a good story". It's why I think risen and miracles in heaven are good, you can understand the message without shoving it in there, they still told a cool story. I wish there were more Christian movies that had a perfect mix of telling people about God, and reaching out to atheists and help them and love them, and at the same time still being a good movie with good story, writing, and characters. Good video Kevin, I think imma sub to you bro, you're pretty cool!

[@danielschwanke7580]

This was wonderful, Kevin. I was waiting for this review and it did not disappoint!

[@ThomasDunnn]

I came to the channel to ask when this would come out

[@LampShadeAffair]

This is your best video imo (especially the speech at the end)

[@Benamax]

*gasppp* WE FINALLY HAVE IT. YUS.

[@quaitlynthedavis]

Finally!!!!!!!!!!!! I've been waiting for this for a million years!

[@CayeDaws]

"Let's just hope the pastor does not ask them to bake a cake" lol so true

[@Jarod-vg9wq]

13:39 couldn’t say it better myself Kevin, love your channel.

[@The23PRNCSS23]

I went to a secular public and we learned about Jesus, Mohammed, and a bunch of other historical religious figures.

[@darrend.4835]

That ad in the middle was amazingly timed, bravo.

[@lilyme3]

I've been rereading the Harry Potter books, so naturally during the extremism video at the beginning, I decided at the end that it pretty much described the relationship between the marauders and Severus Snape. Which kind of made me laugh and then feel sorry for poor Snape. (What can I say? I just read the part in "Order" with "Snape's worst memory"). And then once the teachers showed up complaining about students, I of course started picturing them all with Snape's grumpy face. And to top it off, Kevin's eyes turned red. So naturally, I decided he's been writing in his mysterious diary for too long. XD

[@lilyme3]

Also, Happy Hogwarts Express Day! ^_^

[@benjamintschirhart1736]

My goodness I couldn't help but laugh when the video was interrupted by an ad right after you said "and then suddenly, I'm being advertised to."

[@kengy1991]

PREACH! Kevin is always on point!!!

[@saygoodnightkevin]

+Kenric D :-) thanks so much!

[@DynamitSepp]

Rolling an ad at 33:03.. Just brilliant!