God's Not Dead 3: Is God Cancelled? Ft. LegalEagle

[@WisecrackEDU]

Check out Legal Eagle's video here! ► kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKqoo2pqi5tlnqM

[@Krotas_DeityofConflicts]

Wow! Just wow 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ those Church members seriously protests a dead soldier's funeral🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ that is ssooo disrespectful. If anything, they should protest againt the State that made them do what do. For all we know, that dead soldier could've done more good deed for humanity than most of those people and merely participated in soldering in a very insignificant way, just for the say oj

[@yonimushermusic]

Just an FYI legals Eagle's link to your video actually links back to his, must have put the wrong link in by accident. Yours does link correctly

[@LeafHuntress]

Get yourself some council, LE’s links in both the pinned comment & the description re-link to his *own* video, not yours!

[@Jcewazhere]

Pineapples on hot dogs!

[@MRdaBakkle]

There is a fake account replying to comments trying to get people to DM it.

[@LegalEagle]

This was tons of fun. Let us never speak of it again.

[@georgemetcalf8763]

Hurray Simpsons reference!

[@georgemetcalf8763]

Also you could do a collaboration on self-defense laws. "I'm sorry you viewers heard collaboration with Garand Thumb, but I distinctly said Icy Mike."

[@FirstLast-di5sr]

Thanks to both of you!!

[@mrsylvester5874]

Ketchup belongs on a hot dog ♥️ 🌭

[@Devilishlybenevolent]

I watch you both and this isn't a crossover I would have seen coming! Loved it 🙏❤️

[@thejesuschrist]

I know who I am hiring if I ever need a layer... again. Thanks for this.

[@charliemallonee2792]

But clearly your last lawyer must’ve done his job. They got your execution appealed!

[@KevinBelmontLuna]

Amen and your reincarnation, Moistcr1tikal, will have to use him too should he need his expertise. He's too humble to admit he's you! Bless both of you and your reincarnation!

[@DavidCDrake]

*lawyer (sheesh, I'm correcting Jesus...)

[@Yoman5t4]

So as a hvac tech, the pipe is a temporary fitting used for testing gas pipes to verify there’s no leaking. When you use those fittings you normally use an inert gas, like nitrogen, to test the gas pipes to make sure they aren’t leaking. That being said, it should have been removed after testing was done.

[@CPFitzgerald]

So that's the church, the equipment manufacturer, AND the HVAC contractor on the line for a wrongful death suit in this goofy movie

[@Yoman5t4]

@@CPFitzgerald exactly

[@bobbyologun1517]

@Mainely very well said indeed. american conservative christians playing victim are almost as obscene as the afrikaaners during aparthied. same white supremacist/western christian hybrid YUCK

[@MrJacobegg]

@Mainely Persecution porn. I love it. 😂 Who cares about a believable plot. All they're looking for is a quick release because being Christian in America is basically like persecution abstinence. And this doesn't quite feel as good as the real thing, but it's less messy and can be enjoyed anytime, anywhere without needing to convince another person to participate!

[@ThingsYoudontwanttohear]

And here I was thinking the man was killed by an act of God because of the string of coincidences that preceded.

[@ewok_soup]

You know when you have an argument in your head and you go "And then if he says this then I would say that" and you end up being the greatest debater in history because you control both sides of the debate? That's pureflix in a nutshell.

[@ChristopherBloom]

I have never seen a more perfect description of Pureflix.

[@TheModdedwarfare3]

#1 shower argument champion of the world 20 years running!🏆

[@carlocporosus]

I love the contrast of costume. Legal eagle is in his Sunday best while Michael looks like his rebellious son lol.

[@WisecrackEDU]

I had a bit of a sartorial crisis after sitting next to someone so sharply dressed for two hours.

[@eric7591]

@@WisecrackEDU Wow, I haven't had to look up a word for a while... Thanks.

[@WisecrackEDU]

@@eric7591 I'm here to spread knowledge on useless words

[@thomasfplm]

@@eric7591, and what does it mean?

[@ninakrishnamurthy6674]

@@thomasfplm "Sartorial" means "relating to tailoring, clothes, or style of dress"

[@Gaston-Melchiori]

12:30 they tend to compare "legality" with morality a lot. Ignoring the fact that you can have laws that are inmoral and have morals that are ilegal. One does not have to relate to the other.

[@darthlovecraft]

Because obedience and submission in general is seen as a virtue in the religion. Romans 13 directly states that Christians should submit to whatever authority happens to rule over them; in the books concerning Moses, whatever rule God throws at the people is seen as always good, and that whoever questions it or goes against it will be put to death. Jesus is seen as the ultimate hero not because he hasn't abolished God's law, but has followed it perfectly to a tea, just as he said in Matthew 5:17 - “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." There are many things from the Bible I could list that supports why legality and morality are seen as the same thing in Christianity, but those are the ones everyone most knows of, so 🤷.

[@charlestownsend9280]

Just got up to the introduction of legal eagle and I think the real reason that you brought him in to watch it with you is so that you don't have to suffer through it alone the third time around.

[@WisecrackEDU]

misery LOVES company

[@CaptainFirefred]

To chime in as a german - we use both mustard and ketchup on bratwurst sometimes together - and many of us love them french fries with mayonaise and ketchup calles Pommes Schranke (a Schranke is a red-white colored railway barrier) - and that is what the movie is really about.

[@bobbyologun1517]

americans only understand dichotomy. everything must be reduced to binary and the viciously attack each other :D

[@johnleake5657]

I've seen that in Germany! Though for me, French fries with mayonnaise is an essentially Dutch thing - and delicious, I must add. I've not noticed the Dutch mixing them. And we Brits have them with ketchup alone. Personally I favour the Dutch idea. I think we would mostly go with the mixed in the hot dog, though. Personally, though, I like mustard - and I mean English mustard, not the stuff we get given as American mustard.

[@CaptainFirefred]

@@bobbyologun1517 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWrVh5xjiayIobM&ab_channel=ShortClipsandMemes - worked well for this guy ;)

[@CaptainFirefred]

@@johnleake5657 we don't discriminate between condoments in germany, history taught us well.

[@wmdkitty]

Mayonnaise + Ketchup = Fry Sauce here in the States.

[@chrisosantowski885]

As a former evangelical christian who lives in Chicago and follows both of your channels. I have to say I feel like this video was made just for me.

[@WisecrackEDU]

happy to serve you Chris!

[@andrekelley82]

You kept quiet about the most important thing: do you put ketchup on your hotdogs?

[@Gbord-777]

As a former Christian who is now a luciferian gnostic I have to agree with this

[@bobbyologun1517]

@@andrekelley82 @chrisosantowski answer the question

[@mchawk315]

You forgot to weigh in on the most important issue so we can all judge you based on your condiment choices.

[@IsaacSchlueter]

"Jesus was the original social justice warrior" is not an internal critique. Part of the mission of these movies is to arm religious conservatives with rhetoric to use in debates against secular liberals, not to convince their opponents, but to confuse the issues and convince the crowd. They know what they're doing, and it's extremely tactical.

[@crowdemon_archives]

So, essentially, no intention to come together to an understanding, but rather, just wanting to paint a line at best.

[@brianlane723]

Correct. And the bit about "grace before justice, not the other way around" means (a) you're not allowed to work with anyone outside the faith on social issues and (b) you never *actually* get around to the justice because there's always someone in need of grace (evangelism). So they can affirm night and day that Jesus "was the best" at a term that hadn't been invented yet while also never aspiring to that ideal themselves.

[@nienke7713]

"vinegary flavours go better with smoked cured meat." One of the main ingredients in ketchup: vinegar. Thanks for confirming ketchup goes well in hotdogs.

[@shadebug]

The most disappointing thing about getting a law degree is no lecturer ever setting me up to ask "what's the but-for?"

[@kidalex77]

This was the comment I was looking for....

[@RandyWinn42]

Q: "what's the but-for?" A: "sitting on"

[@ZombieWilfred]

For pooping, silly! 🤣

[@guguyao]

Oh my God, as a philosophy nerd and a law student this is a crossover I never expected to see! Amazing video!

[@bobbyologun1517]

ketchup or mustard you nerd

[@guguyao]

@@bobbyologun1517 Both!

[@theguitarhero649]

Gotta say theres some irony in a law student having a stirner avi 😂

[@guguyao]

@@theguitarhero649 Yes, but becoming a lawyer does not contradict the fact of me being an egoist. It would greatly help my endeavor

[@theguitarhero649]

@@guguyao yeah not saying that as a "gotcha" it's just funny 😅

[@RandyWinn42]

The saddest part of the movie is that Cool Lawyer Bro abandoned his other clients to work this case for months and nothing came of it, literally nothing. Meanwhile his other clients are going, "Hey where's our lawyer?" and his accountant is going, "Dude, did you make any money this month?"

[@dylanboczar999]

Funny how the death in this movie is basically an act of God with how unlikely it is

[@morri254]

oh right! its like there is so many steps involved in killing that first guy, that you would almost have to assume god wanted him dead

[@Godsen5]

I think Micheal is the only person on Earth who watched all three movies. including everyone, actors, directors, staff, producers, etc.

[@lululrouge6]

Renegade cut has several on this series. His video on this is titled Christian martyr complex or something.

[@M_Teeboo]

Oh have I got a podcast for you! God Awful movies has watched now close to 400 of these types of movies.

[@originalindigodingo]

The Cinema Snobs been watching them for years

[@berjanbeen7188]

​@@M_Teeboo I found them a few months ago and thoroughly enjoying that podcast!

[@zubetp]

i know it's been a minute since you left this comment, but nick diramio has also reviewed all three of these. if there are more, i'm sure he'll get to them eventually.

[@hugocortizo6993]

Right before this video, some guy tried to convince me of the importance of protecting unborn children's lives. KZbin's ad selecting algorithm never fails to astound me.

[@diegosaavedra3267]

IS IT IMPORTANT THO?

[@flyingphoenix113]

@@diegosaavedra3267, I think most people (except Utilitarians and Hedonists) would say so. The bigger point of contention is the extent to which you can infringe on the rights of already born people for the sake of the unborn.

[@christiana5453]

@@diegosaavedra3267 It is until it compromises the health or contradicts the desires of the mother

[@angelikaskoroszyn8495]

And what did they propose: Better welfare for women in difficult life situations? Comprehensive sex ed? Socialized healthcare? Or maybe just banning abortion as if that solved any issues?

[@falconeshield]

@@angelikaskoroszyn8495 Banning abortion helps to ignore problems! Ask Ireland and Malta!

[@athandangerousofalexandria]

I’m a former Evangelical who studied Philosophy and Theology in college. I eventually converted to Eastern Orthodoxy. I just wanted to say that I really appreciate you both contrasting this movie with more robust traditions of Christian thought. I remember when I was fully gung-ho on Evangelical apologetics and thought these movies were the bees-knees. Looking back now I have a full body cringe when I recall any scene from these movies.

[@DaurosKrolm]

It's fantastic seeing you two collaborate!

[@nicodemusedwards6931]

All I remember about this series is the scene where the pastor is in the black pastor’s church and he says like: “Sorry, I don’t think you could understand what it’s like to be persecuted.” And the black pastor just stares at him, looks him in the eye and says, “Brother, who do you think you’re talking to? I’m a black pastor in the Deep South, I could build you a church with the number of bricks been thrown threw my window,” and that’s it.

[@nieznajomy4398]

And that's why God's Not Dead 3 is "the best" out of this series.

[@MistaZULE]

@Mainely Which is actually very good social commentary where the white guy is so far removed from the struggles of his black friend that he doesn't even think about racism when he mentions "persecution". Pretty deep moment from a shit series of films.

[@fredericchristie3472]

Best scene in the entire series. The most self-aware they ever got.

[@fredericchristie3472]

@Mainely True, but the alliance between Southern Christianity and religion went deep. Their choice of targets was racist, but their reasoning included religious bases.

[@Nerobyrne]

I wonder who would get more hate: A black Christian Pastor or a white Pagan Spiritual leader?

[@T4XFRAUD]

My two favourite educational KZbinrs?? Dissecting the film franchise that ruined my Friday nights??? This is gonna be a treat.

[@adamrielh]

The crossover I never knew I needed

[@ronclancy40]

My two favourite KZbin channels doing a cross over! I haven’t been this excited since the Flintstones met the Jetsons!!

[@nerdoftheatre]

0:04 Where I live in Illinois, we put ketchup on our hotdogs. One time, I was in high school and we took a trip to Chicago. I think we almost gave this poor hotdog worker a heart attack because all we ordered were either plain or ketchup-only hotdogs. She was a lovely person, but she was absolutely shocked at how few of us ordered Chicago style hotdogs

[@WisecrackEDU]

amazing.

[@TheYakusoku]

The first time I was in Chicago, I explicitly avoided getting a hot dog, because I don't like the Chicago style hot dogs. Mustard makes me nauseated, same with pickled vegetables. Really, out of the condiments in that style, I really only enjoy the onions, but ketchup is my staple for hot dogs. I didn't want to argue about it or get weird comments or looks, so I just ate other things during my brief stay there.

[@gentlemancorpse]

@@TheYakusoku I respect your tastes, but I implore you to try mustard and/or pickles if it's been a while since you last tried. Tastes change as you age, and there's a world of flavor that it'd be sad for you to miss out on.

[@TheYakusoku]

@@gentlemancorpse I've had both VERY recently. Trust me, they still make me nauseated.

[@Alverant]

Ironically my first time visiting Brookfield Zoo I asked for a Chicago style dog and the guy there didn't know what it was.

[@TheOmmW]

Damn I love legal eagle and the law talk, rational talk… but hearing this version with Michael’s philosophical takes was such a treat! Thank you so much guys 🙏

[@tangentofaj]

12:27-13:27 - I'm so glad y'all brought this up so elegantly. The issue is that some Christians strongly fear (and are regularly taught and preached at) that the law actively being used to silence them. So, the news and the courts always show up as an unrealistically huge big bad. Literally anyone and everyone is against them in these types of movies -- the news, the legal system, the medical community, the education system, even the local community -- anything that sets up a strong US vs THEM dichotomy. Yet, y'all make such a great point right here: There's so many other angles to Christianity that would make good movies and show the brighter sides of what there is the gain from ones belief. Buuuut Nope - we regularly get a bad attempts to copy drama or an action movies based in no sense of reality Sigh. Your commentary is so heartening and refreshing. Thank you for this video! Now I don't have to watch it, lol.

[@Alverant]

Yeah, they say the law is being used to silence them and in response, the law is bending over backwards to justify giving them special rights that they'd be horrified if given to non-Christian groups.

[@bertschumacher2097]

Love the crossover! I’m not educated in the legal or philosophy business. You both are my favorite youtubers to follow in those fields.

[@jeffnicholas6342]

I was stoked to see this crossover too!

[@ctomsky]

The real sacrilegious controversy in this movie is the depiction of a Chicagoan putting ketchup on a hotdog.

[@kreigguardsman3355]

There is signs on the stands that say it is unlawful

[@AchimaelProductions]

This is the team-up I didn't know I wanted. EXCELLENT video!

[@jasongeorgis3483]

Michael is his Grateful Dead t-shirt and Devon in his suit looking like the backend developer and CEO of a company

[@WisecrackEDU]

Real comment made by our producer on set that day: "Michael looks like a 13 year old boy sitting next to Devin."

[@emperorblackman5710]

I'm glad these came up back to back. Watching two different perspectives of them being baffled at this movie.

[@rugbyelite1361]

this is dope. I'm so glad two of my favorite intellectual channels did a crossover

[@nina1608]

Oh! Two of my favourite creators in one video! Love it!

[@yuzu-tsuyu]

The summary for this movie in the sidebar on youtube includes the line, "Yet even in life's darkest valleys, a small flame can light the way toward healing and hope. A deadly fire rips through St. James Church..." WTF.

[@AceOfSevens]

I'd like to see him do 2 or 4, which are also about legal battles & have way bigger persecution complexes.

[@FordMustangFoxbody]

Oh no. There's a fourth?

[@ignacioaguirre8137]

@@FordMustangFoxbody i heard they’re planning a fifth

[@seand.g423]

@@joaovmlsilva3509 yup... Welcome to Earth...

[@00SmileTime00]

I always suspected my cool law professors and cool philosophy professors were secretly friends. Now I have empirical proof.

[@thomaswolf1143]

REMEMBER TO LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE! I know this video was literally just released but I am appalled to see less than 100 likes. So cool to see these two doing a collab :)

[@WisecrackEDU]

Thanks Thomas!!!

[@josephwilliams1251]

Oh shit, I actually did forget to like. Thanks, dude!

[@ryvyr]

Truth :>

[@uwtartarus]

This was a great crossover! Enjoyed watching both channels' version.

[@Casual_Stroll]

12:30 - 13:00 I feel like there's a multi hour video essay just waiting to be made (or maybe has already) about how conservatives view the legal system as a means of expressing their faith. I also feel like it can be summed up as simply as "Their religion requires all of us live under their rules".

[@zorktxandnand3774]

The movie also seems to suggest that if a judge would rule that god does not exist, Christians will give up their religion.

[@quintessenceSL]

Dunno. In the same breath, some Christians want validation from the legal system (which completely negates faith) while also wanting a persecution complex (which makes a convenient scapegoat when your religion has unrealized downward effects). Makes for schizophrenic existence. There's also the purity aspect of not wanting defiled by the world (not unique to the religious that's for sure). Even if you had a theocracy, there would be some cranks complaining about shellfish or whatnot. It's simply one-upmanship mixed with pessimism for the future. There's a lot of that to go around.

[@imageez]

As someone who currently live ina country that just say yes to a new law that prohibits two unmarried individuals to sleep together and give their parents the rights to persecute them, yea it do be like that.

[@danf3201]

@@imageez Damn, what country is this out of interest?

[@imageez]

@@danf3201 Indonesia. And the problem is that of all the new laws that got enacted (there's one prohibition against teaching ideas against the national Ideology, prohibitions on 'insulting' the state institutions and president, which unfortunately might have come from terrible smear campaigns years ago on the current president's faith and race) the outside marriage cohabitation aren't the ones most people here taking umbridge with.

[@DoggishPrince34]

I very much appreciate these videos, because my parents made me watch three of them, including this one, and I saw so many problems with it as a 14 year old(yeah I know, I’m 14 and this is deep ) that I wouldn’t dare point out to my dad because he would’ve shut me down or gotten mad at me lol. Thanks for these videos, it makes me feel much better

[@dangermouse355]

Hey, didn't "Jesus was the first social justice warrior" bring you around?

[@wyatttomlinson3475]

@@dangermouse355 That seems a bit disrespectful as a reply.

[@dangermouse355]

@@wyatttomlinson3475 I genuinely don't see why. I think I made a mildly sarcastic but light hearted comment in sympathy with Nash?

[@wyatttomlinson3475]

@@dangermouse355 I think I interpreted your comment as dismissive, but I don't know why. Apologies for the confusion.

[@frankm.2850]

You should check out the podcast "God Awful Movies." Its a group of atheist comedians who tear apart religious movies. They've done three hundred plus of these things, including all four Gods Not Dead "movies."

[@chaunguyen5157]

Mike is carrying this channel. Love you man! I love your philosophy break downs.

[@WisecrackEDU]

Love you too! Thanks for the support.

[@johnchiu]

I didn't know I needed this. And now I want more.

[@WisecrackEDU]

If you haven't checked them out we previously covered the first two films in the series on Wisecrack.

[@LeBellmont]

two of my favorite youtubers collabing. It is clearly an early Xmas

[@WisecrackEDU]

happy holidays : )

[@sdauz]

The duo the world didn't expect, but needed!

[@oefspcedwards]

Literally two of my favorite channels. This is awesome.

[@kyleunderwood9143]

Love this collab immediately

[@RED-jg6mt]

Love this, you guys had a bunch of fun it seems :)

[@loreleimonn3220]

I watched a video a while ago that said this movie felt like a parody of the God’s Not Dead Franchise, and it’s so accurate. Especially with how it portrays the atheist characters being so great lol.

[@virgil.alonso]

"Vinegary flavors go better with smoked cured meats" Tomato ketchup is made from tomatoes, sugar, and VINEGAR, with seasonings and spices.

[@WisecrackEDU]

okay you're not wrong . . . but . . . I think ketchup leads way more sweet in its overall flavor profile whereas mustard leans heavy into the vinegar.

[@virgil.alonso]

@@WisecrackEDU you gotta pick up the fancy ketchup

[@Heyhaylix]

getting my MA in philosophy specifically to study Thomism and this movie made part of me die inside, great video!

[@rachelblake2350]

*SMASH* "What was that?" "Sounded like a duck, we should go check it out."

[@rossbooth4635]

I demand more Wisecrack / Legal Eagle crossovers! Two of my favorite channels.

[@GG-bw5qd]

That pizza scene is so weird given that eating during a serious moment is usually movie short had for "this character is an asshole"

[@Leopoldshark]

*ding*

[@vitorviotti]

Adding to the hot dog discussion. In Brazils Central Platou we add tomato sauce, cheese, garlic past and shoestring potatoes

[@katattack907]

Love both your channels!! Awesome collab.

[@RodrigoBarbosaBR]

My assumption on them mentioning "social justice warrior" is to try and coopt the expression. "It now belongs to us, and we will tell you the meaning of the word". The same way he appropriated the word "truth" or even "morality". That's a very common practice and doesn't surprise me at all.

[@badbirdkc]

That's exactly what it is. Someone mentioned it on the Legal Eagle video and called it "Youth Pastor Energy" - Like a youth pastor is talking to a kid wearing a Spider-Man shirt and says "You know who else was a really cool superhero? ... Jesus."

[@CHRISPYakaKON]

The film series that even Christians don’t like 💀

[@noah8699]

Christian here: Couldn’t agree any more

[@willnotez6976]

@@noah8699 it's a terrible film series...

[@tillerzeit]

If God's not Dead had to prove it was less a strawman than the scarecrow from Wizard of Oz. It'd lose by a landslide. Oz wouldn't need to give the scarecrow a heart. Christian btw

[@falconeshield]

Christians do hate Evangelical propaganda and Kevin Sorbo

[@zorktxandnand3774]

If god is not dead, how do these movies exist?

[@astronaut4291]

Loved seeing both of these pop up in subscriptions!! 12:41 good thing we have philosophy! And CMON Portello's all the way baby

[@Frostblock]

Devin is the fucking best! Love that you two cooperated!

[@AaronLitz]

I really like you two working together.

[@furyrage2011]

This is one of the best videos I've seen in a while, thanks.

[@jacobdriscoll8276]

It is weird how these movies kind of assume that if the state isn't explicitly Christian, that it has somehow replaced Christianity, and is some sort of dark mirror of it, rather than just, like, not Christian.

[@falconeshield]

According to them everything pagan (aka Terrestrial) is evil and malevolent. It's just you not understanding the culture and not bothering to do so dude.

[@falconeshield]

You in general, not you directly

[@jossypoo]

I'm here from LegalEagle! Having watched the GND3 video over there, I'm here for the other half!

[@WisecrackEDU]

Thanks for stopping by!!!

[@TheDarkbluerock]

The crossover we didn't know we needed

[@mike0rr]

That was great, seeing LegalEagle on!

[@clarkfroelich1778]

Love seeing LeagleEagle listening to philosophy being explained how I look listening to him explain law

[@haenmaen]

9:52 "God called me to fight is umm... has historically not worked out well" LOL!

[@John_Fisher]

I appreciate Michael's thoughts about the "Jesus is the original social justice warrior" moment. There's still a lot of problems with this franchise and this film hasn't gotten over the victim complex, but this internal critique is an interesting feature and an improvement to be commended. It shows some thoughtfulness when they could have gone with pandering and cash grab if they were merely cynical.

[@dangermouse355]

I figured it was because they make these things for Xian parents to show their kids.

[@crowdemon_archives]

TBF, if they actually go further in the thinking process, it may actually become a rather interesting thing. Problem is, trusting the people behind God's Not Dead series with anything beyond their really shallow view of their own religion is expecting a bit too much lmao

[@Axqu7227]

I hate to break it to you, but it’s not a self critique. It’s a hamfisted attempt to give the target audience the rhetoric to preach their faith to “lost lambs” who have left the church, and an invitation to see non believers as hypocrites for not being swayed. Biblical Jesus condoned slavery and women being property.

[@thenobody9755]

I have been waiting for this video , so glad you did it 😝

[@TrickyNick79]

Devin looks like he's representing Michael on possession charges

[@WisecrackEDU]

You have won the "best comment" award.

[@bryantgrove6199]

Cant wait for part 4 review.

[@WisecrackEDU]

we gotta do it before the end of this year - thanks for the reminder.

[@Heathen_Hearth]

As a polytheist I really appreciate the talk of the difference between religion and science and how someone can have both science and religion and they don't contradict each other. Also love both of you and this collab was awesome!! As for the hot dog debate, I am a red, white, and blue blood American and I put only ketchup on my hot dogs lol.

[@Axqu7227]

I’ve got a cotton-poly blend of different pagan traditions going on and it was Star Trek (specifically Picard yelling at Wesley Crusher) of all things that made this click for me: scientific, spiritual, and moral truths can all be different.

[@Heathen_Hearth]

@Axqu7227 Hey man, I saw your post on this video, I'm sorry that Christianity has hurt you, its hurt a lot of us including me, I've just chosen that I still want to be a theist and I don't know if you're an atheist or agnostic or what you believe in but I'm sure we could have a better dialogue then you just trying to make fun of me. If you actually want to talk about the ideas, of course. I hope you have a good day =)

[@hughie522]

Great video! (Legal Eagle fan here) Your reward is having to review God's Not Dead 4 :P.

[@WisecrackEDU]

Thanks! And it's definitely in the future plans, God willing.

[@BlackCarrot1129]

Legal Eagle guy (Sorry, I forgot his name) is so cool. You guys did great. Tell him that I agree, ketchup DOES belong on hot dogs!

[@DneilB007]

9:48 On one hand, you have the tomato/garlic/sugar combo of the ketchup; on the other hand, the acidity that cuts through the fatty salt of the prepared meats. Solution: salsa.

[@Grilled_cheezus]

The gas explosion is about as contrived as the religious people portraying themselves as martyrs.. you have to jump through so many hoops

[@josecabada7108]

I like the parallel between the pastor going to his cool lawyer brother for help and you going to your cool lawyer friend for help.

[@SuperLocrian]

This reminds me of the book "Who Moved the Stone", infamous in evangelical circles. It treated the "mystery" of who moved the burial stone like a detective case being built for trial. Also, I put mayo and ketchup on my hot dog... and shredded cheese if available...

[@spenserg7054]

a crossover i never expected for channels i love. great stuff! :)

[@caylenrudd7699]

To the scene where Josh says "Jesus is the original social justice warrior..." Because of what the intent in the film series over all tends to be, my understanding of this scene is to give the target audience a line to push back onto more progressive leaning family members who are confronting them on their believes, especially with regards to social justice. Most of what these films serve to do is reinforce evangelical talking points and provide talking points for people who expect to be constantly confronted about their beliefs. I say this because Josh ends this section saying "but it's Grace and then Justice, not the other way around" This sounds to me like a good Christian should care an awful lot about social justice, when other Christian's are involved, but that a person's status as a Christian is the most important of them. So yes Civil Rights and Racial Justice matter, because these are good Christians who don't deserve it. If the individual facing social discrimination isn't a Christian (or most often, isn't the right kind of Christian) then they deserve it because their actual problem isn't the systemic issues, but the fact they aren't right with God. This is a common talking point regarding queer people, for example, but also get signaled to when racial minorities are facing struggles. I hope this all makes sense, I'm writing quickly while on break at work. Also, I put ketchup and cheese on my hot dog, I have to agree with LegalEagle, ketchup belongs on a hot dog.

[@Axqu7227]

This has been my experience as someone who grew up around people who love these movies

[@mechanomics2649]

_"...my understanding of this scene is to give the target audience a line to push back onto more progressive leaning family members who are confronting them on their believes, especially with regards to social justice. Most of what these films serve to do is reinforce evangelical talking points and provide talking points for people who expect to be constantly confronted about their beliefs."_ That is exactly what these movies are and really nothing more.

[@FatalPixels]

How have I not stubbled upon this video!?!? amazing duo. 👌

[@avewinters]

The crossover I didn't know I needed

[@MaxxPa1]

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[@Magidex]

TWO OF MY FAVORITE KZbinRS TOGETHER FOR A CROSSOVER EPISODE WHOOOOOOO

[@IndomitableAde]

I'm so glad we have Michael to call out violations of our Midwestern food traditions. Great catch!! No ketchup on hot dogs, ever.

[@WisecrackEDU]

I consider it my spiritual duty.

[@MaxRamos8]

You wierdo it's as classic as oreos with milk. You need that katsoup!!

[@Dimas5]

4:08 I was listening without looking at the screen and I thought that was Tosh.0 haha

[@Dr.Agon.]

I've seen both videos and, regarding the hotdog discussion, as someone from Mexico, I can confidently say that hotdogs are one of the most versatile foods and ANYTHING can go on a hotdog... many different types of cheese, beans, corn, meat of all kinds, sausages, bacon, fruit like tomatoes or pineapple, veggies, cream, ketchup, mustard or even mayonnaise, it's all fair game. But I do agree, ketchup is a low tier ingredient.

[@bobbyologun1517]

depends on the the bun!

[@mygalsiii]

I believe that if that brick did whatever it took to at first be light enough for someone to chuck from the roadside like 40 feet away, but then become heavy enough to not lose momentum when it crashes through the window during the descending arc of it's flight so that it won't bounce off or split when it hits that brass metal gas valve stem and still come in with enough impact to snap it off the pipeline so that now gas can leak into the basement (despite the fact that at 6:27 you can clearly see it already should be seeing how there was at least a half inch of separation already as they were barely still attached after what I can only speculate looks like the would be result of repeated previous similar assaults by other magic bricks) where the dude goes to check things out for some reason even though the stairs that go down there are located all the way in the back past the pulpits yet he was like right next to the first guy to cast a stone at a window that they then chased off, all of which looks as if it all happens near where the front entrance is... yet I digress, perhaps being led by The Spirit or due to past events like this, dude suspects it may have been a magic brick thrown again (which are very expensive) and so I imagine that's why he leaves David behind outside and all alone while there's at least 1 confirmed hostile in the vicinity (not a very friendly move my dude), he must want to pocket it real quick before anyone else notices so he can hawk it asap after the pawn shops open so he can get some fast cash, and so he heads down there because those magic bricks always end up being found down there for some reason that's yet to be determined, all of this so he can be used by the Lord to pull the cord for an ancient ass light bulb that just so happens to finally blow out, or rather blow up... so much that it breaks the thick ass glass bulb free from it's fixture and sends sparks flying which ignites the gas that then explodes in such a manner that it must have crimped the gas pipe in time so the explosion was localized thereby sparing those other homes nearby and resulting in only the destruction of the church via burning... if all that well then I believe God's will has been done on that earth and that dude life's purpose had been fulfilled. They say that the Lord works in mysterious and magical ways and makes use of all kinds of people to fulfill his plan even if that means in order to burn down a church who's congregation needs some serious reflection time to get right again he needs to get kids some bricks from the same projectile manufacturer that made magical those stones for Goliath and rounds for JFK and the basketball the Harlem Globetrotters use well then I guess as this movies goes to show that's what he will do. Amen.

[@jamesonstalanthasyu]

During that tree toppling scene, I know they are brothers, but they looked like a morning after couple in the movies, where the man wears the bottom and the woman wears the top.

[@BlakeMcCringleberry]

It's always important to ask "what is the but for?" when analyzing these cases.

[@elijahcumpton9926]

The history of religion and higher education is a really interesting one. Highly recommend the book, "No Longer Invisible: Religion in University Education", by Rhonda Hustedt Jacobsen, but basically it's just one of those exceptions to the separation of law and state that's developed largely because of the prominent role religion took in the creation of the concept of institutions of higher education to begin with. The first universities in the US were founded to teach religion first and foremost, so spaces that serve to promote a specific religion (like the way chapels make it easier for Christians to worship on campus), are largely built-in - both at an individual level and systemically. 👍

[@alfrede.neuman9082]

Granted I’m Aussie and not American (and acknowledging the history you raise), but I find that pretty galling that religion is given some kind of privilege in the public universities of a secular nation with no state religion, and a godless constitution. I strongly object to a single cent of my tax revenue finding its way to anything relating to worship, prayer or god/s whatsoever. Mind you, Australia is a predominantly non-religious country, so it simply wouldn’t fly here at all.

[@elijahcumpton9926]

@@alfrede.neuman9082in practice, as it exists today, religion really isn't given priority in state institutions. it's just acknowledged as a real and significant part of the vast majority of students' lives that can have an immeasurable impact on their educational careers - but that's if it's even acknowledged at all, as most state universities make little to no effort to do so, tbh. But even as a secular institutions, any attempt to provide a wholistic education almost always necessarily requires some ability to deal with religion, so it's been in a weird state of flux for a few decades now. The fact that public universities wouldn't even exist today without religion is a big part of it, too lol. It's important to note that some of the biggest university-building denominations (like the methodists and the unitarians) weren't building universities and hospitals to convert people as the top priority. They just thought the world might be better if people were educated and healthy. At least that's what I learned at my methodist undergrad university lol.

[@alfrede.neuman9082]

@@elijahcumpton9926 Hmm, I’m always deeply suspicious when a religious group claims they’re doing something with no intent to convert or proselytise. I don’t think I’ve ever even seen a chapel on a uni campus in Australia… We tend to view religion as a “you problem” so to speak - ie we wouldn’t consider it reasonable or appropriate that a uni should go out of their way to facilitate it, and so few people are actually religious here anyway. Although weirdly, in our Defence Force, our pastoral care is almost 100% Christian, and required to be so by Army policy (I happen to be in the army, so this affects me). This is despite the fact that our constitution expressly forbids this, and around 80% of the army is not religious. The 20% - or a large portion of it - that ARE religious make up most of the senior commanders. So I guess that’s why. But this is changing soon, since this system of expecting atheists to feel comfortable speaking to clergy about their deepest vulnerabilities (unsurprisingly) directly contributed to a disproportionately high suicide rate amongst serving and ex-soldiers. There’s a massive royal commission into all this, and this was one of the major issues identified.

[@elijahcumpton9926]

@@alfrede.neuman9082 oh wow, that is interesting. Weirdly enough the military in the US has a long history of religious diversity, although chaplains has historically been largely christian, they've been pretty good about recognizing different beliefs. Or at least they see the benefits of having that kind of support for personnel in combat situations...also we have a tendency to bend over backwards to afford respect to military people, for good or ill, and respecting religious beliefs is the ultimate form of social respect in the US, so I guess that makes sense, too. And yeah, i feel you. I would be suspicious too if it wasn't something that had been confirmed by my experiences, but it's possible. And i was a religion major, and almost every professor in my major was also an ordained minister lol. But there's a good reason why folks on the other side of the world might not ever hear from that side of things - when they're not compelled to force other people to agree with them, religious people are more prone to listening than making a lot of noise. And gosh even with my experiences, honestly I don't know what it would take for me to trust any other Christian university in that way again, the way things have changed in the last 2 decades in particular...

[@alfrede.neuman9082]

@@elijahcumpton9926 You raise some interesting points. Obviously Australian and American cultures are incredibly similar, but interestingly, we’ve always viewed religion differently. And I really want to make clear that although I’m an atheist, I have a profound respect for people’s rights to identify and practice their religion. I think we Aussies differ is that we tend to reject extreme positions on issues. This is part of the reason our politics is a great deal more centrist and has nowhere near the same far left/right extremes US politics experiences. And here, religion is kinda treated the same way; people tend to shy away from hardline religious views, and settle somewhere in the middle. Just about every single person I know who identifies as Christian in some sense is non-literalist, totally fine with things like same-sex marriage or (within reason) abortion, euthanasia etc, and almost never talks about religion. Almost all of them never go to church, or identify as a particular denomination, because they almost invariably have rejected church-derived dogmas, ie Catholics and gays, condoms etc. They all would describe themselves as “Christian”, but according to their own interpretation, and their own views on which parts of scripture they adhere to or not. I think that’s a pretty reasonable way to look at things, but to be fair, I’m biased. The main issue I have with the Army chaplains is the simple fact that there is so much diversity in soldiers - religious, sexual, racial etc - and that so many (anyone OTHER than christians) simply has no spiritual care. It derives from a time when Australians were 98% Christian, and the only issue was whether one was Catholic or Protestant. It bothers me so much because I’ve known many colleagues who have real aversions talking to ministers, who simply don’t want to speak with them about things like their sexuality or similar. Ironically, soldiers have a saying - “we all wear the same uniform” - which means that we couldn’t care less about someone’s beliefs, gender, sexuality etc, because we’re all on the same team. I honestly wish wider society had the same attitude… there’d be a lot less hatred and intolerance in the world.

[@KittySnicker]

Love this collab!!

[@raphaelteschl3530]

As someone from austria: You are absolute correct at 5:13 you will not see a politician say blatantly that they ,,believe in god" or ,,religion form my politics"

[@bobbyologun1517]

in usa all all major political office my publiclly proclaim religion. athiests like bill clinton or obama pretended or played the middle by saying they are superstitious. very weird!

[@scottmcelhiney323]

But, do you put Ketchup on hot dogs?

[@Cillyman17]

I love this collab! I hope to see more in the future!

[@KingRusty67]

Could you find lower hanging fruit than "god's not dead part 50"?

[@Odinson42]

you're allowed to put ketchup on a hotdog until you're able to ride the rollercoaster. Once you reach the rollercoaster age or have to pay full price for movie tickets, it's mustard all the way

[@trapadvisor]

It’d be cool if a collab between you two could be *at least* once a year

[@naptimelaser]

I used to think Michael and Devin were the same person but now that I see them in the same room I am confused.

[@KonradTheWizzard]

The magic of modern green screen technology! 😋

[@LaymensLameMan]

As a Christian myself I can’t believe you guys actually took the time to watch God’s not dead 3 when I haven’t seen passed the first one. Thanks for the intellectual honesty

[@insu_na]

Sausages *only* go with Mustard. If you add ketchup in the presence of mustard that's fine, but mustard *must* be present for a sausage to be enjoyable. Source: I'm German

[@WisecrackEDU]

Thank you for this!

[@PiiskaJesusFreak]

Depends on the sausage, but mostly this. Many considered sausages to be primarily mustard delivery platforms. Approaching this as a Finnish person. We take our sausages very seriously.