Going Deep On Hair Loss Prevention Drugs With Peter Attia - From Tame To Nuclear

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[@athdragoveskel9389]

I've literally been searching for a more recent MPMD video on this topic today. Bravo!

[@stainlezlinks9867]

want to know if saw palmetto works its said to be a natural dht blocker. was taking finasteride1mg but cant get some in my region at the moment, any alternative?

[@JOHNWAYNE1920]

who is the highest iq that is on dutasteride

[@AnonymousOne1111]

Derek, whats the bottom line here? This conversation is a bit over intellectualized for my current level of understanding of the topic. I use Hims Min/Fin Spray and its not really all that effective. Def some effects on the morning experience. Not sure if its also effecting muscle gains. Can you please give me a clear and concise idea of what is the most logical path to address this?

[@nzbenf]

Hey Derek. Is there a reason you are no longer promoting Regenepure?

[@vinnyp9877]

Finally back to some old school MPMD topics

[@serenityedits1857]

Only thing left is some “more dates” content lol

[@stevenjames9487]

It is a fungus in the water

[@TyeMitchell-s5s]

@@serenityedits1857naw thats a side effect of perfect health

[@follicle-fixers]

@@pricklycatsss It's not like the science behind hair loss has changed in these past years. Most people just need to be reminded of it.

[@Blindstoic]

That’s why I’m here.

[@Andreas01]

Humans will have colonized Mars before we cure hairloss.

[@veilmontTV]

I'm calling bullshit on this one

[@_baller]

@@Andreas01 ever see an image of an alien with hair?

[@rockyevans1584]

​@@_ballerslammed him dude

[@Lemingtona-x5g]

they haven't even got to the moon yet, hair loss is genetic mostly

[@TrueFilter]

Cured obesity.

[@jonnyboyd7715]

Derek got me thinking about hairloss treatment in 2020 and now I have great hair . Thanks bud.

[@user-qy6tu9ip9v]

Hey man I feel like i am currently starting to bald/thin even though I am not showing any signs. What should I be taking now to prevent it from happening? Is it only finasteride?

[@tjcmoto5484]

What’s your current regiment? I’m looking into some myself.

[@TyeMitchell-s5s]

Own space?

[@Mike54831]

​@@user-qy6tu9ip9v watch Derek's other videos on hair loss

[@mitchweber7868]

Can someone please explain to me why derek wouldn't try out another test only blast with the dut in his protocol, and see if hair loss gets worse for him, i know he said testosterone will lose hair also but i was thinking maybe it's been so long a blast might work for him now idk lol

[@SouthSideMobileBrakeService.]

For anyone experiencing hair loss, receding hairlines, or thinning hair: I've watched all of Derek's videos and followed this protocol, and it worked very well for me: 1. Topical Minoxidil 5%: Apply morning and night. 2. Microneedling: Use once a week at 1.5mm (I recommend the Intelligent brand, which is Derek's company). 3. 2% Ketoconazole Shampoo: Use daily. 4. Finasteride: Start with a super low dose (0.01%) every day, then gradually increase. ( Zero Side effects) You MUST stay consistent with this routine for at least three months before expecting any noticeable results. It's also essential to understand what each of these treatments does. While I didn't regain much of my receding hairline, I did gain a lot of bulk hair on the crown.

[@Woozy.0]

I am against ketoconozole shampoo anything other than weekly. It completely dries out the hair you still have and leaves it prone to horrible splitting and breakage

[@KiLLaBushWooKiE]

Good post just imo sometimes won't work for all. Never been fan of washing hair daily , ancestors didn't and homeless don't. I had thick hair til 35 all I did was wash twice week tops. Think something else happened with pharma drugs and went thin fast. When u dont suit it at all its a true confidence destroyer. Something has gone wrong genetically to us all and effects most of us now.

[@pricklycatsss]

5. Shave it off and become Johnny Sins

[@pricklycatsss]

I’ve been shaving my hair off forever so I genuinely don’t give a shit. Once I go bald I’m not gonna look any different than I’ve looked before.

[@pricklycatsss]

Everyone should go bald at least once. You shouldn’t have your entire identity attached to some shit that grows out of your head.

[@jaboigerald2271]

Derek saved my hair. Lifesaver.

[@kylethedalek]

3-4 months in I see no difference.

[@jaboigerald2271]

@@kylethedalek takes up to a year, take photos every month. Everyone responds differently.

[@scottlee38]

Same.

[@Topgqrst]

Finasteride?

[@FluffyBlub]

@@kylethedalek I'm 1.5 years in, it takes pretty long before you actually see a change. I grew I little bit of hairline back but it's not much, but the little extra line is worth it. And it's not just the hairline creeping very minimally forward. But your hairs on your whole head get thicker and you get just more hairs in the place where it's still growing. Definetely wait atleast 1 year before stopping. (finastride) by the way.

[@joses5356]

61 yrs old. Been on finasteride over 20 yrs...no problems and still have all my hair. 1mg a day and for awhile 3 mg a week.

[@DTOLL9000]

impressive

[@naegleriafowleri2230]

probably cause your balding genes are not strong or mild

[@adam702702]

Thanks for sharing this. I've also been taking finasteride for over 3 years + Minoxidil and have no health problems either.

[@okaySam]

How's the libido? Curious to hear from someone a bit older than me

[@naegleriafowleri2230]

@@okaySam everyone has different genetics lol some become impotent for years after discontinuation while others dont have any side effect

[@nomad6086]

63 yr old. Former national class bodybuilder from the 1980s. Using a low-dose regime of finasteride - .5 mg 3x week - which equals about .2 mg daily. Initially started the standard 1 mg a day dose for androgenic alopecia (mild hair thinning in the front area & some balding in the vertex) but experienced some sides (low ejaculatory fluid, ED). Found The Hair Loss Show on YT - two Austrailian hair loss specialists - that recommended lower doses.Been on this dose for about 10 months - no more side-effects. Complete stabilization of hair loss & some actual regrowth on the vertex. There are some clinical studies showing good efficacy & very low side-effects with the .2 mg daily dose (Japan has good study).

[@Reeve-vf6zk]

good info, thanks

[@Ben-ld1qi]

Good for you! When did you originally start? It's a bummer being in your 30s and 1mg daily not fully stabilizing. I also suffer from low fluid and weaker erections and no morning wood at all. I'm considering moving to 0.25mg daily and getting an rx for min+fin, I know a derm that specializes in those.

[@theycallmey5167]

Was balding when introduced to MPMD 2-3 years ago, now ive been on finasteride for 2 years all my hair back and happier then ever. Thank you

[@stormcaster6322]

Did it all come back as soon as you started taking it? How long did it take?

[@JasonS-eo7sh]

Finasteride eventually stops working. Eventually your hair will start receding again. I had perfect hair with Finasteride for about 10 years and then my hair started to recede. My dermatologist said I was lucky to get 10 years from it. I ended up getting a hair transplant, now I have the best hairline I've ever had. Pay close attention, Finasteride will stop working, it's inevitable.

[@theycallmey5167]

@@stormcaster6322when first started taking it, i was shedding hair like crazy after 6-7 months it started getting better and better. And felt like i got all my hair back and even thicker then ever. Never experienced any side effect from it.

[@hereiamdgame]

@@JasonS-eo7sh When did you have Hair transplant ? how is your current condition and what was the cost and grafts and which clinic? Are you using any other medication after Hair transplant?

[@JasonS-eo7sh]

@@hereiamdgame I had my transplant Feb. 2023. I had it done at The Solve Clinic in Chicago. It was $5.50 per graft. I had 1600 grafts done. I take Fin and Min. I had amazing results. I look 10 years younger. I'm 45 so I didn't get an exaggerated frontal hairline. I'm very pleased.

[@noticemesenpai69]

I feel like I’m back in 2018 with these videos 😊

[@jonnyboyd7715]

Ive stayed steady with minoxidil topical and fin for 4 years and it made a hell of a difference.

[@Peace-tl1ll]

Is there any side effects and what are results i.e did u got any new hair follicles or just same follicles got stronger?

[@ssjbardock79]

Second the request for info here, I used oral minoxidil and it started giving me palpations

[@YourzzTrulyy]

Did you go through a shedding phase? If so, hoe bad was it and how long did it last

[@follicle-fixers]

@@ssjbardock79 Oral minoxidil might not be for you then, try a lower dose. Or use topical minoxidil with topical tretinoin 0.025%.

[@NarrativeNightfall]

Same here. 5% minox once at night daily and 1,25mg of fin 6 days a week. I have had zero sides but thicker hair now after 1,5 years

[@dovinue9289]

Thinning hair when i was 22 gave me severe anxiety and since listening to Derek's advice through these years (26 now) I've been able to intelligently approach hair loss and find a regimen that works for me. Now I'm feeling optimistic and not stressed over it. Thanks bud :)

[@thedizzychicken2332]

What do you use?

[@smashmusique]

why would you stay so vague and not say the ''regimen'' you used?

[@davorzdralo8000]

@@thedizzychicken2332 he shaved his head.

[@maximo5755]

And now we wait for Derek’s appearance to the Haircafe Cinematic Universe!

[@bigrdog27]

Hair content > gym content 😅🔥

[@flossordie2256]

Its still minixidol and finasteride only. Saved you 15 minutes.

[@FinalTrajectory]

Derek saved everyone’s hair loss, including mine; The protocol has been working for me for years. Thanks to Marek Health 🙌

[@dontyouworryaboutit_]

twenty seconds in and Derek is spouting some big ass sciencey words. daddy’s home

[@BorealGhost13]

Derek, I remember when you had 10K subscribers. Keep holding it down you absolute animal! 💪😎

[@BorealGhost13]

Also, because of you, I have great hair! Finasteride alone brought it all back lol

[@Clarkssman]

Derek's video on Finasteride showed its not the horrific drug people think it is. I started taking it after watching and my hair loss has stopped and ive grown back some. I'm 100% going to keep taking it. Ive been on it for 1 year. No side affects.

[@BorealGhost13]

Glad to hear bro! I’ve been on it for 2 1/2 yrs, no sides. In another year, you’ll have even more growth, but if you experience a shedding period, don’t stop! My hair has always come back better than before a shed, but I really haven’t had many.

[@follicle-fixers]

Hell yeah bro! Been on it for more than 2 years now. It's been great

[@noonewillnoo]

It can be good for some but it put me in hospital with chronic stomach issues on a normal dose. My digestive system is still recovering from the damage.

[@marcusbarnes5929]

​@noonewillnoo what happened?

[@ShinMadero]

@@noonewillnoo Highly unlikely that it was actually the finasteride that caused this. I've never seen any clinical evidence of it causing stomach issues.

[@coganada2468]

We love hairloss content Derek! More vids of this topic please!

[@TheNoCommentGuy]

they way this convo went it felt like Derek was the doctor

[@AA-jk1es]

3 years ago I was confused & scared but Dereks & Kevin Manns video helped me made a decision to start Fin. God Bless y'all!

[@BlahBlahPoop617]

As we get older, DHT causes more issues. Not just hair loss, but prostate cancer risk and other evidence suggests it may play a role in risk of heart disease and even skin aging. All the research we have shows that Testosterone fulfills the necessary roles just fine and DHT is not a systemically active hormone like Testosterone is anyway, so the claim that it’s more potent than T is a nonsensical point. We also know that people who are born with genetic networks in 5AR live normal lives and don’t have increased risk of depression or sexual issues, apart from those born with abnormal growth of genitalia. For that DHT does play a role for that during fetal development but doesn’t seem necessary later on after that. There are those who produce no DHT but have normal genitalia development too due to increase T levels and they seem normally healthy.

[@dota-tc2uv]

Exactly. Im so tired of reading missinformation people spread around the internet. Testosterone is the key. We ve seen what happened to people born without alpha reductase enzyme or very low DHT in general, there is a study about that actually. The positives of DHT are not worth the negatives (Enlarged prostate, heart disease, cancer, hairloss, depression caused by hairloss which is totally underlooked)

[@super_heroes]

Hims chews of minoxidil and finasteride has saved my hairline! After 90 days of taking the daily oral chew, my hairline is much more dense and little new hairs have grown where there wasn’t any before! I’m 23 male

[@alexmajor7773]

I took Fin for a few weeks, lost all libido, and struggled to get it up. Panicked like hell but was single, so decided to just keep going at least a couple months see if it improves. Now been taking it for over a year, and all those negative sexual side effects ended after the first month and I’m all good now. Not sure if this is a good or bad sign for the future, but there it is. Hair has seen massive improvement on the crown too

[@daboydudus3912]

nah almost everyone has that first month, its just the adjustment period

[@Spadzz98]

For me DHT has done nothing but be a net negative in my adulthood, ever since I started experiencing adult acne and hair thinning in my early 20's.

[@KiLLaBushWooKiE]

Confused dht has so many benefits, don't call it the better stronger form of testosterone for nothin Yet basically one negative of constricting hair follicles. And less blood flow areas tip head sees it most. Surely there's better ways to even cure hair loss than destroying a hormone. 🤷‍♂️

[@nistrosempai5285]

Ye, dht is trash compared to testosterone

[@Nathan47223]

Dht gave me severe cystic acne and hair loss at 18 years old. Having too much dht is terrible for skin and hair

[@Spadzz98]

@@Nathan47223 100% agreed brother, had the exact same thing happen to me at 23 when I never had so much as a pimple when I was a teenager. Even being on Finasteride for almost a year didn't lower it enough from being in a high range after I got my bloodwork done. Took getting on Dutasteride to finally sort it out, and I've not looked back even once. Never suffered sides and my Test is still as high as ever.

[@KiLLaBushWooKiE]

@Nathan47223 interesting sorry to hear that, hormones in general are all over the place around that age. how do u know it's dhts fault. I think genetics lifestyle nutrition is factor of most things especially skin and hair.

[@StarvingPixels]

Dutasteride master race

[@ssjbardock79]

I was on it 0.5mg a day for 3 years and it gave me severe pain in my lower back, hips, and legs. It took roughly 3 years for that to occur but as soon as I stopped taking it the pain subsided within 1 month and has not come back since

[@morgan3625]

@@ssjbardock79 why would you attribute it to dutasteride? were you suffering with the pain since you began it then why didn't you stop?

[@ssjbardock79]

@@morgan3625 I took no other medication at the time, I was reasonably healthy, and I have never had any such symptom in the past.

[@follicle-fixers]

@@ssjbardock79 3 years? This wasn't due to dutasteride.

[@bradastra6111]

@@ssjbardock79 thats stupid, dut takes months for your body to process it. 1 month off dut its not enough.

[@epicace699]

great info guys! thanks

[@paco3447]

Fin and especially Dut in the urology field is the gold standard for prostate enlargement and other related prostate issues when used before its too late. The PSA needed to be screened applying a minor formula change, though. My father’s been for years on dut and invasive surgery is now unnecessary. No single side effects. His urologist told him that is mostly auto suggestion due to search for side effects.

[@_JM-]

If it wasn’t for Derek, I would’ve NEVER noticed that my temples were thinning as early as I did and would’ve definitely lost a lot more ground before doing something about it. Noticed it at 21-22 and now i’m 25 with the same hairline I had when i was 12. Love you bro

[@wille7319]

Minoxidil caused me the most grotesque depression you can imagine. This coming from someone who had depression for about 6 years before. 6-8 months into topical Minoxidil 5% I got this insane depressing feeling that felt like I killed my best friend and buried him in the woods and now had to tell his family. Or my own family had been all killed in a crazy murder spree. It is impossible to understand this feeling unless you felt it. I remember Jordan Petersson saying something similar and I just thought he had bad depression. No, it is literally exactly how he describes it. At least mine was. And Jordan got it from something else. Two weeks off Minoxidil and it was all gone. Fuck Minoxidil man. Be careful dudes. Obviously doesn't happen to everyone. But I had no idea it was from Minoxidil, so I lived with it for quite a time.

[@nz3794]

Why did it happen to u? I thought that thing could only happen if you’re on pfs

[@Deichgraf2.0]

Same here. Depressions, low blood pressure, fatigue, low libido, weak erecs… Just 4 month on Minox and those severe side effetcs. It‘s 5 years ago and thank god it’s all gone and I‘m ok now. I would never never ever took Minox again or try Fin. Better be bald than those experienced side effects. It was horrible!

[@lapollock95]

Yeah I tried oral and topical minoxidil about 8 times since 2020 and it gave me such bad heart problems couldn't breath lying down I near went to hospital multiple times always happened about 1-2 weeks in also couldn't get hard. Finasteride made my beard patch and gave me horrendous brain fog... Can't win would rather be bald than touch that trash again.

[@eskimopie9266]

New subscriber, new to all of this really. Thank you guys for such informative content it really is incredible how many people this helps.

[@_LeeTurner]

I've been on Finasteride for over 20 years, oral Minoxidil for 6 years and Dutasteride for 4 years and have never had one side effect or one problem. They all work great.

[@andreicallanan1029]

How's your hair holding up?

[@_LeeTurner]

@@andreicallanan1029 Great. Oral Minoxidil really thickened it.

[@supernice_auto]

How strong are your erections?

[@_LeeTurner]

@@supernice_auto Never had one issue ever. Rock solid.

[@antoniodesimone4689]

hell yeah!

[@imran4968]

This is why I subbed to Derek along with his bodybuilding topics videos.

[@jscroggins433]

I take 1000mg Pumpkin seed oil capsule and 2500mg Saw Palmetto capsule daily for over 2 years now and I'm on TRT and it stopped my hair thinning big time, hasn't grown anything new but stopped the thinning 100 %

[@stainlezlinks9867]

How effective is saw palmetto, started taking it with biotin few days ago

[@pb9405]

Thought you were joking, try taking your pumpkin seeds anally, might work better who knows

[@aaron_d_henderson1984]

thanks for going through the details of this and not instantly claiming that all bald people are on gear

[@AdamKrzysztofPawlowski]

Derek saved my hair and I couldn't be more grateful to him!

[@Dollabill568]

I wish finasteride didn’t cause massive anxiety in me. I used it for 7 months and had an insane recovery at my crown and hair line. Unfortunately I lost morning wood, felt lethargic all the time and then had uncontrollable anxiety by month 6. I buzzed, started TRT and said forget it. Is dutasteride worth a shot?

[@TeyCallMeBigMac]

If you’re on trt now it might be worth trying again. My hypothesis is that Since DHT is more potent than test, lowering DHT and subsequently raising estrogen (because the test that used to convert to DHT can now aromatize) can cause the symptoms you described, but if you’re manually controlling your test levels with TRT, and take anything to control estrogen, you may be able to have high enough test to compensate for the loss of DHT.

[@nistrosempai5285]

Are you fat or drink alcool usually?

[@morgan3625]

try it. dutasteride may not cross the blood-brain barrier so could be safer than finasteride.

[@summerforever6736]

Stay away from both Had similar side effects

[@_baller]

@@Dollabill568 sounds more like dutasteride or you’re sensitive to fin, or it’s something else

[@wasimraja7439]

I found Derek after I had my son in 2020. And he gave me the tools and confidence to save my hair. Super happy for all his success 100% deserved on his part.

[@bruce7244]

Finasteride and derma rolling is amazing. Been doing it for 5 years

[@evansheridan0491]

Do you still find yourself gaining ground after 5 years of derma rolling ?

[@fr0stmourn3]

The knowledge Derek was able to provide me through his videos on my early twenties was instrumental in enabling me to decide for myself if I should start fin. Since then I've been able to take that knowledge and tweak things if i was on a high dose or low dose etc.

[@tripleeyeemoji]

Bald guys always hate finasteride 🤣 Get on finasteride and minoxidil fellas if you want to keep your hair. Otherwise have fun being bald.

[@scottlee38]

Dutasteride user here.

[@thephantomarcana]

Finnasteride for 9 months. Stopped hair loss completely. Recovering maybe 10-20% of what was lost so far. My thinning was in the front only and slight volume loss on top. I had some minor neck pains when I first started but no side effects at all. 1 mg daily.

[@_baller]

Fun fact, almost every single male celebrity or male public figure, is on Fin…. and they’ve been on it since the 90s…

[@TRANSWOMENAREMEN1776]

Fun Fact, you can't possibly make that statement with any level of confidence 😂😂😂😂

[@pricklycatsss]

I thought that was a given. People have had the same receding hairline for like 20 years but it just magically stopped receding lol.

[@pricklycatsss]

@@TRANSWOMENAREMEN1776You can’t. Other people can.

[@Vampire102]

@@TRANSWOMENAREMEN1776 Fun fact, you’re delusional 😂🫵

[@fraxizztv6433]

​@@TRANSWOMENAREMEN1776fun fact, studies have shown KZbin comment sections can be absolutely full of it.

[@bladerunner2006]

I love how careful both of them are to give any hard advice. So you know that, if they do for once, you can count on that shit working.

[@dreyri2736]

8:47 hang on hang on hang on... somebody's forgetting Dwight D. Eisenhower.

[@monke2361]

So Peter Attia thinks its better to take oral minoxidil which has a very small chance of literally killing you over finasteride which has non life threatening side effects.

[@EliasAlucard]

@@monke2361 yeah, says a lot about how much he knows about the subject. Most urologists are like that, they're completely clueless about fin/dut, which is ironic because it's their field; 5ARIs is what they're supposed to prescribe to people who have BPH. But I guess 5ARIs aren't lucrative enough, so they prefer to give their patients more expensive treatments.

[@carlospalma_]

Oral min won’t kill you, mate.

[@MrNordicnicklas]

Some times he makes no sense.

[@supernice_auto]

I'd rather be dead than alive with a non functioning dick

[@Daniel-hp3tk]

Oral minoxidil's ability to downright stop one of the most important organs of your body functioning properly is so extremely glossed over by its proponents. It's unreal and insane

[@spidey677]

As a Hodgkin’s lymphoma patient I take a combo of both oral minoxidil and finasteride. For finasteride I was taking it a couple years before diagnosis. I was able to preserve fertility just fine before starting chemo. I asked my team if finasteride makes you infertile & they said no. It can possibly make a patient lower sperm count but not infertile. I now started oral minoxidil to see the results. Hopefully my hair grows like a chia pet. Hope this helps!

[@tmp1k]

if you're considering starting on fin, i say do it. i've been on it for years and have been able to maintain and improve since i started it. never noticed any side effects. been considering oral minoxidil but the heart related side effect have me questioning it.

[@follicle-fixers]

Yeah the oral minoxidil side effects can be more severe. But on the upside, you'll notice them pretty soon and you can just stop usage if needed. Best thing you can do is just try.

[@stephencarlsbad]

No no! Thank you for bringing it up. It gives us a broader scope and map of understanding for hormone-receptor interaction and hair regrowth!

[@elflordspeaks]

Eisenhower was bald.

[@NateBro]

Gerald ford was pretty damn close to bald. Martin Van Buren was bald. John Quincy Adams was pretty damn bald. Nixon was like NW3. Trump and Biden would both be bald without transplants and finasteride

[@zrtyler]

Appreciate all Derek’s knowledge to help navigate this stuff. Minoxidil affected my heart pretty substantially, and unfortunately even beginning titrate levels of topical 5ARs affect my dick. The sides for me occurred within a month for both. Start low and slowly build up if anyone is looking to get into this stuff.

[@langraman8756]

i was vegan for a few years fell for gov hype to reduce climate change. my hair thinned and fell out. became b12 deficient. started to supplement b vitamins my hair grew back right away

[@davidnorden1972]

Government health advice is always ropey at best.

[@signs80]

Going vegan is not for people who know jack shit about nutrition. You gotta really be on top of your supplementation if you're gonna go vegan

[@luxuryseaviewvillas6744]

@@signs80 Chicks love vegans! No they don't.

[@samgw9803]

​@@signs80Which just proves that its just a malnourishment diet that you should never do.

[@signs80]

@@samgw9803 I don't know if that really makes sense, you should eat a wide variety of foods in any diet. A vegan diet makes this slightly more important but it's not really much worse in that aspect than a more boring omnivore diet. I'm not even a vegan either

[@lapollock95]

Finasteride gave me horrendous brain fog and depression. Minoxidil gave me chest pain and trouble breathing lying down were I nearly went to hospital multiple times. Would rather be bald than touch that again research heavily before taking this stuff.

[@cj5273]

Did the side effects of finasteride go away after you stopped?

[@steelearmstrong9616]

I use to be extremely vain but now 50 I couldn’t care less. Hair genuinely really is not important but will be if are extremely insecure and vain. I was both but then i grew up

[@supernice_auto]

nice cope

[@steelearmstrong9616]

@@supernice_auto The truth hurts and always gets an emotional triggered response. Please rest up. You don’t have long

[@Mr.Eminem]

U got old..and people don't care about old people until they highly wealthy

[@steelearmstrong9616]

@@Mr.Eminem lol I genuinely did laugh out loud. I agree with you but lucky for me, I am good looking and do quite well for myself which in the end is still meaningless. Do what makes you happy and remember that you are going to die. Life is very short. Appreciate the comment

[@mattia2377]

I guess it's easier to say this when you are 50. It's losing hair at 20 that sucks

[@SalvatoreFinelli-v5j]

Great 👏

[@David1212-p9d]

Clearly, Dr. Attia wasn't taking this seriously. He was joking about how it's "only cosmetic" and he didn't even fundamentally know that only finasteride or dutasteride could actually STOP hair loss progression. He was talking about how minoxidil and prp were better options. umm....actually, no. You can't get around taking finasteride if you want to stop the hair loss. He was joking how no President elected was bald. This is how it came across to me. He doesn't take the topic seriously, and it shows.

[@darrow_andromeda915]

You didn’t listen to what he said. He said he’d prefer them than over possibly irreversibly wrecking your endocrine system.

[@David1212-p9d]

@@darrow_andromeda915 He just seemed glib to the fact that all those other options don't stop or slow down hair loss. It won't irreversibly wreck anything. You stop taking it, you'll be fine. Tylenol and Advil are dangerous too, and people have died from it.

[@backpain100]

​@@darrow_andromeda915No the issue is most of those other treatments do not address the root cause, and that is preventing DHT from attacking your hair follicles. Only oral Fin/Dutes and possibly topical form of them can stop the thinning from happening. But topical forms still absorb into your body. Conclusion: only fin/dus can prevent hair loss reliably.

[@alanmichael5388]

Reached out to Marek Health and they don't take clients from outside the U.S even if they visit. How can I get the comprehensive hair panel before starting finasteride?

[@FP-ty9qf]

Time to transition. I now identify as a hairy woman.

[@donjuantrumpetajohnson]

🤣

[@christophercoffman1100]

Derek saved me with his hair loss lore🙏 thanks man “crying laughing emoji”

[@_baller]

I’m glad I got on Fin and wish I got on it like 10 years earlier, and I don’t want to hear a bald guy saying otherwise lol

[@al-muwaffaq341]

I get the feeling that the docs are trying to scare people from taking it

[@user-qy6tu9ip9v]

Hey man I haven't starting showing signs of balding and I'm 26 should I hop on finasteride?

[@_baller]

@@user-qy6tu9ip9vlol well why, if your hair is important for your career you can get on it any time

[@chadlink8199]

@@user-qy6tu9ip9v RU better

[@Whatthehefk]

@@user-qy6tu9ip9vtalk to a health care provider about it but also don’t let them talk you out of it and keep in mind prevention is the best solution. It’s much easier to get on finasteride than to go to turkey and get a hair transplant

[@crazyboy33398]

Topical fin makes a lot more sense and studies show it’s rather similar with the only side affects being skin sensitivity in the sprayed areas.

[@szzrhn]

Just got diagnosed with alopecia. It’s over for me boys 🙏

[@billybathgate1836]

Androgenic alopecia?

[@szzrhn]

@@billybathgate1836 Alopecia areata 😔

[@donjuantrumpetajohnson]

You're fine. Do you look good bald? Hopefully you have a nice round head shape.

[@robbieknowles7754]

Derek would you recommend Pyrilutamide (KX-826) or RU-58841 from Anagen then?

[@sayyara2921]

Guys, if you are suffering from a severe case of hair loss (nw3 type of stuff) you should definitely considering getting a HT. Turkey is really affordable, especially for Americans

[@vegetaCOSMOnaut2001]

Norwood Reaper always wins 😂

[@pv4240a]

great video!

[@_baller]

I really don’t find this doctor to be intelligent, and even when he doesn’t know enough instead of learning or asking, he just makes an assessment off his own ignorance

[@jrgarciab]

Yup.

[@AdudesRebirth]

How smart are you? If you had to put it into words. How intelligent are you???

[@EestiUkrainiSprinter]

Topical peppermint oil in coconut oil does better than minoxidil for bringing vasodilation to the hair follicle for good growth, cellular stimulation, and almost no side effects unless you put too much pepperment oil on. Overall peppermint is king for hair growth!

[@zerafians8145]

I mean, hairloss is very simple to control and the research is out there. There are no amount of minerals or vitamins you can take that will help for more than short term or "illusion" aka you think its doing something good. And if you take SO MANY, you are now just harming your organs and gut. The best route to take is medical therapy (topical fin/ minox), micro needling once a month, PRP injections once every 6 to 12 months. FUE hair transplant if possible of course. If you have a predisposition for hairloss, many PEDs will encourage hairloss. Nizoral 5% can help thicken the follicle but the balance of use is tough. You dont want to fuk up your scalp/ skin and cause irritation. Shampoos and conditions are like going toe to toe combat with hairloss, its VERY HARD to stay on the ball. The fin/minox and microneedling are long term remedies proven to work for almost every man. Also, most men are in denial about their hairloss. You dont see it until its more than 50% gone. The human eye cant detect the thinning until that point, unless you are really watching your hair from the get go. Being proactive is VERY VERY important. I've been dealing with it since 2011 and now at almost 40, have had two FUE procedures here in the states and do the fin/minox topical every day. I have more head on the top of my head now than I did at 26.

[@aion6151]

You hit it on the head man. Good write up.

[@follicle-fixers]

Great comment. But I wouldn't even touch PRP unless you are already doing everything you can while also having the cash to burn. PRP is super expensive and even more hit & miss. Better to just save up that money for a transplant.

[@0fficer_friendly]

what shampoo would u recommend?

[@follicle-fixers]

@@0fficer_friendly Just pick something specific for your hair. I do have some dandruff, hence why I use a relatively high-end Vichy anti-dandruff shampoo. Lasts ages though, cost isn't the concern here. Unless you have a specific issue, your shampoo choice doesn't matter that much.

[@JasonS-eo7sh]

I had FUE in Chicago. Best 10K I ever spent.

[@manny9561]

When’s the gorilla mind hair serum coming out !!?

[@Chris-fh3qv]

Been on Fin for 3 years and the best thing I can say is that I actually never look in the mirror anymore or worry on a windy day. The psychological relief from that has been massive. Never listen to anyone who says "it's just hair". For many people, hair is a fundamental part of how they look and, by extension, the pride and confidence they have in their appearance. Losing hair is a loss of some of their identity. It is so dismissive to say to someone, "No big deal." Listen, it is. In the same way, getting overweight and losing a sense of self-image and confidence in yourself are the same thing. When you feel you look good, you will feel good. People just get it mixed that there is some narcissism or something with admitting that. Fckn bs.

[@hereiamdgame]

Did you have any side effects of Fin? Have also had Hair Transplant?

[@ViktorMudryiWise]

Respect here. that is a man. Honest one.

[@sup9542]

Losing your hair is like suddenly getting a bigger nose or droopier face, or dropping a few inches in height. People who say "who cares" are disingenuous or just stupid. It only matters because people (notably women) do treat you differently depending on how you look. If people didn't do that, then I'd agree, who cares, easier to be bald, saves a lot of time.

[@mdubs12]

Not fitness related but curious with your deep knowledge what your opinion is on how to fix/treat leaky gut and inflammation?

[@fabians7673]

Derek is the only doctor on the internet I trust

[@ricardorodriguesrr18]

Is he a doctor?

[@stankwho]

I realized if you can get comfortable losing your hair you can easily let go of other things in life you can't control like toxic relationships, friends etc.

[@BeenSlaiyan]

Hims fin/min saved my hair. Highly recommend

[@horseliver338]

What is Hims

[@dontbetrayyourself]

But unfortunatly not for europeans... @ horseliver he means HIMS, its a company specialized on mens health. Just google it.

[@ivorthegod4969]

It's a hair loss brand ​@@horseliver338

[@BeenSlaiyan]

@@horseliver338 it’s a fin/min product that can regrow hair. Google hims finasteride minoxidil

[@JasonS-eo7sh]

@@horseliver338 an outrageously overpriced online service for hair loss treatments and ED treatments. With insurance Fin is maybe $10 per month and Minoxidil $5-10 per month. With Hims, each are around $50 per month and no proof it's pharma grade. A total ripoff company.

[@tonyfontana8222]

I have been on Finasteride 5mg for BPH and oral minoxidil 5mg for 3 years,so far no issues. Started Nutrafol about 4 months ago my hair seems to be getting thicker with the use of Nutrafol.

[@Champ1988]

We can only infer that Musk is on a 5AR. With his resources, he likely has access to treatments that won't be available to the masses for decades. But if he is indeed on 5ARs, it most definitely hasn't hindered his fertility. That said, I have a question. Do you think that 5ARs are harsher on men who aren't on TRT or gear?

[@summerforever6736]

He had a transplant years ago

[@follicle-fixers]

We know Musk had a hair transplant

[@DTOLL9000]

He might even wear a system tbh

[@PunishThemMetal]

This is why i watch Derek!

[@dahuterschuter]

I've been on various forms of 5AR inhibs for years now, still have a completely working boner at nearly 32. All I can say is that it works on my machine and hope others also avoid any side effects.

[@Sammythakidd]

Can you do more about meso therapy please?

[@TrueFilter]

I’d never do finasteride again. Messing with hormones is is not for me.

[@ヤギ自身]

Have fun going bald

[@tripmann268]

Derek saved my hair too, I split my 1mg fin tablets into quarters (a quarter daily) and got a decent response, alongside topicals, 3 years strong 💪

[@AndrewATP]

2 seconds ago is hormonally frustrating

[@rycer7977]

Please do a video breaking down the new high stim pre🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@user-J250]

Wouldn’t bloodwork be the easiest way to determine if the topical hair loss prevention is affecting DHT? This would seem to end the debate of who gets side effects and who doesn’t right? Get your baseline DHT levels checked and then around a month into topicals get it tested again and there’s your answer.

[@jeremywatson9129]

For a future video would you consider doing a video on Enclomiphene as a monotherapy for low T? The algorithms have been putting this in my feed lately.

[@SatnamSingh-el2rp]

Peter saying that being bald doesn’t matter, but if he was given the choice to have elite hair genetics or be bald by choice, by a heartbeat he’d take the hair. Hair is everything, girls care more about that than someone’s height

[@supernice_auto]

false, nice cope though lol

[@Mr.Eminem]

​@@supernice_auto you should stop coping.. hair is life

[@luxuryseaviewvillas6744]

Hair and height both matter A LOT for first impressions. Exception for hair: Guys who look good with the shaved head look, which is really only dark skinned guys with elite physiques. Exception for height: Guys who have some type of obvious status, like a very wealthy guy or a known influencer. Having said that, once you get past the initial impressions, then neither mean very much. Meaning that being short or having to shave your head will not stop you from finding and keeping the right girl as long as you: A) Have a good personality funny/confident. B) Have a well above average physique and take care of yourself and your look. C) Have your financial stuff together. Height and hair issues will only make it harder to find the girl, but you'll still find her. However, height and hair issues make it much more difficult to just go out and get laid whenever you want.

[@saadk8905]

Bro just get jacked and hatfish man. I fucked 20 girls with my hat on and took it off after couple dates once the bond was there and they didn't care. I have a gf now who is 7 years younger and I just wear a hat all the time and stay fit. Just hatfish bro lol.

[@SatnamSingh-el2rp]

@@saadk8905 nah I’ll keep taking my min and fin until 40

[@hatem4906]

Derek you never really seemed to mention Kintor’s new drug besides Pyrilutamide called GT20029. I thought you’d mention it when talking about Kintor but perhaps you didn’t look into it? Its phase 2 clinical trial just finished not long ago and it’s showing quite promising results with great safety data (no sexual side effects reported at all).

[@ScaryBat2]

Just two dude making words up.

[@itzzrodi]

I am currently on RU and minoxidil 5%. Complete game changer, not everyone needs the big guns like 5ARIs.

[@empoweredpenguin4036]

RU is an unproven research chemical with NO SAFETY PROFILE in comparison to Finasteride or Dutasteride which both have extensive evidence that they are safe

[@JasonS-eo7sh]

RU will damage your heart. Any Cardiologist with a brain will tell you that. This is why it is not prescribed by doctors. I asked my Cardiologist (a man who works with professional athletes regarding cardiac issues) and he told me the stuff was toxic and can lead to heart attacks. And this guy has no problem with TRT so he's not an alarmist.

[@elijahebbert6884]

How long?

[@METALADIX]

I would honestly rather die than go bald. I would take any drug that prevents me from losing my hair even if it's shaved decades off my life. I look around at so many other people my age that have full heads of hair and I absolutely refuse to be inferior.

[@FuckTheState]

Same.

[@orion5259]

Same 100%

[@rockyp32]

Horrible horrible mindset

[@orion5259]

@@rockyp32 "just shave it bro"

[@rockyp32]

@@orion5259 I look horrible bald but who cares

[@ssjbardock79]

I took dutasteride @0.5mg daily for three years, it did halt the hair loss for me but i never saw any additional growth or regrowth. Within the third year i developed insane nerve, bone, and muscle pain in my lower back, hips and my legs (from butt to ankles). I stopped taking it earlier this year in January and by March my pain completely subsided and it has not returned at all. I am hesitant to start dutasteride again but I may try finasteride.

[@summerforever6736]

I had side effects too from it too Stopped it

[@JasonS-eo7sh]

I had the same issues. That stuff sucks.

[@carlospalma_]

I’m on year one and still no side effects brother

[@ssjbardock79]

@@carlospalma_ good for you

[@k1nj3]

Bold statements comming from this guys

[@donjuantrumpetajohnson]

or bald statements?

[@Castro2169]

I'm taking tongaktali from momentous. I feel like I'm losing my hair. Anyone can relate?

[@GoBrushYourTeeth]

Yes. That’s why I stopped

[@user-qy6tu9ip9v]

I'm 26 now and idk why but I feel like I'm losing my hair even though I do not have any visible signs of balding or thinning.

[@DTOLL9000]

@@user-qy6tu9ip9v Are you shedding a lot of hair? this is an early sign, you only notice thinning when 50% is already gone.

[@RigelSounds]

Thanks to Derek's early videos, my hair today is better than 5 years ago!

[@byzantinehoney3384]

Finasteride is being banned in the EU

[@Bropiller-gb4ws]

why?

[@danielojaaru2344]

My doctor refused to prescribe it

[@byzantinehoney3384]

@@danielojaaru2344 it’s OTC in Greece

[@notthesame3606]

@@danielojaaru2344 Go to another doctor then. Dermatologists can also prescribe finasteride and they are usually more sensitive and aware on how hairloss can impact a persons self-esteem. By the way, the EU is only reviewing the drug again because of concerns that the drug might cause "suicidal thoughts"...kind of a broad topic with many, many possible causes I would say. Of course, when men start interfering with anything relating to testosterone...people go crazy and see all kind of causations when there are in fact almost none. Women are interfering with their hormones since decades with the anti-baby pill...not much of screaming there.

[@elitecompany1878]

Studies show as little as 0.01% finasteride per ml is effective. I got my temples back with 10% minoxidil, 0.01% finasteride, 0.05% treitnoin once a night. Microneedled once per week with derma pen at 1.2mm. When from baby hairs to full coverage in 5 months.

[@maxim54321]

Wondering , did you buy this as a formulation?

[@The_Voice_of_Reason748]

The EU are looking at banning finasteride

[@jaden5843]

Why?

[@notthesame3606]

They are only reviewing it because of concerns it might have caused "suicidal thoughts" in some individuals. Which is really quite a broad allegation. Of course people go crazy, when men experiment with hormones related to testosterone. Doesn't mean there's much truth to it. Women are interfering with their hormones since decades with the anti-baby pill. Not much screaming there.

[@l0nelymurder0nwinter3]

Derek, what to do if I have strobg sides by topical fin? Homemade fin 0.08mg per 1 ml. Ed, lower libido. My bloodwork was normal but dht was low 280. My bloodwork is good also after cancelling this treatment. But I recovered libido about 2 moths. It is high now. But I have still some emotional flat. What do you think about using topical dut? And how to recover emotional flat?