Going Down - MAP19: 200 Mega Hurts (Blind Ultra-Violence 100%)

[@zomnibot]

"Don't tell me it's 200 Arch-Viles." No. It's even worse.

[@iguana9173]

This arch-vile obsession has got to stop.

[@anew742]

201 Arch-Viles!!!

[@tjg121389]

I mean, he was half right.

[@SaviourV]

No more likes on the opening comment here, please. It's 200 on the dot. Just perfect.

[@Ails1234]

In which decino fights 100 arch-viles and 100 pain elementals and then proceeds to punch the entire map out of frustration

[@Andy_Paluzzi]

"200 mega hurts doesn't take you down... It takes you beyond" - MtPain27

[@christopherings7996]

I love being up on the channel enough that I get Decino's God Machine PTSD flashback humor.

[@jamesbrassfield8409]

Same here lol

[@Ben_of_Langley]

Yeah definitely lol

[@TreuloseTomate]

Mega Hurts should be an official measurement unit. Example: God Machine has 174 Mega Hurts.

[@Gleanerizer]

~20 minutes of fist-peening and wall-humping the entire map to the sound of demented clown music... RIP decino's sanity LOL

[@colinoettel1287]

I absolutely love this map. It takes a joke concept where you think "someone would never make that", and then he went along and actually made it. I would understand why some people wouldn't like it, since it is really gimmicky though. Also, I would also like to point out that this map has 100 pain elementals, and god machine only has 78.

[@tommy8058]

I agree with you. I would await such a map as the secret or super secret map but not as a regular map.🙂

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Ye, but in this trippy wad's case a "mundane" re-visit to the roof is more worthy of being the secret levels. I'm very glad this is in the regular lineup.

[@tommy8058]

@@DinnerForkTongue of course you're right. I meant in normal wads( whatever that means in DooM) it could be one of the abstract secret maps. In Going Down it makes absolute sense as a regular map.😉

[@eduardodiaz9942]

You have to appreciate Doomguy's determination, hijacking an UFO and entering a dimension of fire and pain just to grab the red key for the elevator. This map is very intimidating, but isn't that hard, you have plenty of cells and invulns to go around. Also, next map is tied with map 26 as my favourite in the whole wad. You'll see.

[@ThaMrJoker88]

Map 26 is that bridge of blood I freaking loved that map mouth of madness is definitely one of my favourites too

[@raymondbd21]

I believe 19 and 26 share the same music.

[@eduardodiaz9942]

@@ThaMrJoker88 That's map 24

[@colinoettel1287]

@@ThaMrJoker88 map 26 is insanity

[@ThaMrJoker88]

@@colinoettel1287 I think the transition in insanity in the middle and at the end are cool but the actual gameplay is kinda meh tbh nothing that the other maps don't already do although it is really important for the narrative flow of the wad and it is cool af but I still think bridge of blood is more fun bunch of monsters in front bunch of monsters behind and they all gotta die simple but effective 😁

[@SiFi270]

As soon as decino said "so the gargoyle zone is empty in HNTR?" I was _so sure_ it would actually be full of lost souls. It'd just feel so appropriate the wad, even if it wouldn't be as big a "gotcha!" moment for HNTR-only players as it would for players like decino who check it out on UV and then on HNTR.

[@WobblePizza]

Whoa me too! I saw him wasting that invlun thinking "iiii dunno decino, I think you might want that for the lost soul swarm!"

[@cakefireo5139]

"This is going to be a massive archvile maze" well your not completely wrong about that

[@fmsyntheses]

The brilliant thing about this map is that it's not difficult if you throw yourself into it gamely, but because it involves masses of the two most-hated monsters in the roster, it plays on your instincts to despair once you realize that and try to cheese their mechanics. Thus, it is only when one overcomes oneself and one's own weaknesses that one can prevail. A poignant lesson.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Thank you, Master Miyagi 🙇🏻‍♂️

[@juliangonzalez3612]

Doom man shoot monster😃

[@arkkisarkki]

Yeah, the map is probably notorious for the shock value more so than actual difficulty. edit: Not to imply I didn't die multiple times, because I did.

[@CalliphoriBae]

Alternatively: Lol BFG go brrrrr

[@Brucifer2]

Its really genius how they set up this level. Basically setting it to where you have to keep your eyes locked on enemies in order to do the most damage, while the Archviles do the same. Its like a staring contest from hell.

[@JanMichalSzulew]

Lol, so it makes sense that that mirror secret (of the final secret) in the pain elemental area was just a +1 health bonus. Well played, Cyriak

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

I think a lot of people underestimate the Pain Elemental because at times he's easy to bully, but this level REALLY shows how the old Meatball can be an absolute menace.

[@markushavens8669]

I predominantly play with fast monsters. With fast monsters and no lost soul limit I contend that Pain Elementals are the most dangerous enemy in the entire game, only maybe tied by chain gunners. Chain Gunners may shred you, but unless there are a ton of them they aren't too bad. Meanwhile a single errant Pain Elemental slipping by unnoticed can and often does lead to a failed run.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

And it gets worse with infinite height disabled. Believe me, it does.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

@@DinnerForkTongue Infinite height or not really is such a subjective thing to me, because as much as it can confer advantages to the player to be able to leap down ledges over the heads of monsters, it'll also give serious advantages to flying monsters in way they never had in the original game.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine As I love this tradeoff, it's my go-to. Caco clouds are an actual menace when they can stack vertically and fly over the ground pounders.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

@@DinnerForkTongue Yes! I do genuinely love the change in dynamics, in GzDoom I can jump on top of the heads of a pack of Pinkies surrounding me and make an escape attempt, but I better watch out for that Pain Elemental and his Lost Souls who are about to intercept me as I do, I can't stop to fight him or the Pinkies will eat me, and if he blocks my path I'm equally screwed.

[@CatchyCroc]

One of the most memorable maps in Going Down. The wad is normally so consistent with it's elevator entrances and exits, so when you get here it really feels like you're going to an alien land. I also like how the secrets are less about giving you extra supplies (the map already has crazy amounts of invulnerabilities and BFG cells), and more about giving you alternative routes and and space to maneuver. It's also the second wormhole gimmick type map in the wad, which is just such a fun quirk to build a map around.

[@maazwaseem8313]

Next map is probably my favorite level of all time. Cannot wait.

[@iguana9173]

Me too

[@DinnerForkTongue]

That one is not my favourite of even this wad, but that is purely because it has some ridiculous competition.

[@eduardodiaz9942]

It's a very memorable map, indeed

[@colinoettel1287]

Not my favorite, that would go to map 26.

[@J0000OOOO]

@@colinoettel1287 Yeah 26 is probably my favourite as well. 20 is among the best though absolutely.

[@raymondbd21]

One thing I noticed is that first teleporter with the faces appears in Map 02. It's in the boss's office. I figured that this map is an alien dimension made of energy. The archviles that live there are a viable power source. The administration decided to keep a live feed of that portal to make sure nothing comes out of that dimension without them knowing about it. Also, the sky box in the archvile zone appears in Map 02 as well. I guess the UAC is very thankful for the free energy. Congrats, now the maps get really strange. I'm looking forward to your reactions.

[@vinoirma8225]

Decino: *Finds 7 secrets in 2 minutes* Also decino: *wastes 1 secret in 20 minutes* Plot twist: *mirror map* I am so done, thanks for the show, very fun even in the long secret quest. ^_^

[@PeterLawrenceYT]

Pick Up The Invul Pick Up The Invul Pick Up The Invul Pick Up The Invul

[@alextcastillo1151]

*Decino facing 100 pain elementals and no more archviles* Decino: "maybe this is better" *God Machine flashbacks* Decino: "oh no"

[@622jlw]

26:38 I LOVE that you don't even quite get the end of "I ain't afraid of revenants." out of your mouth, and an 80 damage roll missile connects.

[@danielelubiana7082]

Screw 100% items. I dont care bigmacdavis Hahahagag man the memorries from bigmacdavis ahahhaha legend

[@ufoisback5088]

Decino's skill for killing Archvilles is unmatched. Killed 100 in 10 minutes going blind.

[@TrumpLester]

Joel is going to love this level

[@doomfan9319]

This map has an unusual texture scheme, but the saturation works good esp with the Pain Elemental. The wordplay on the Archvile is also an electrifying touch =)

[@DefinitelyFroggyDioBrando]

This could've lived up to it's name if it was pain elementals instead of archviles. ... I typed before 13:00

[@sc4334]

Going Down is an absolutely brilliant and absurd WAD and easily one of the most creative Doom experiences I've ever seen. This map really emphasizes that lol.

[@johnarmstrong5533]

Maybe it's just the novelty of a skybox, but I really dig the "light world" & "dark world" aesthetics of this map. The central gimmick has a tongue-in-cheek charm to it, too.

[@hrnekbezucha]

The callback to previous map is genius.

[@idd_cutie1274]

I was really hoping the lower difficulty would be a room full of Lost Souls instead. Oh well

[@Linventor]

Perfect timing, just finished watching the last one

[@mogomra]

I came here to post exactly this. Freaking epic

[@marcasdebarun6879]

I also came here to post exactly this. Freaking epic-er

[@Etrehumain123]

I do too came here to post exactly this. Freaking epic-er-er

[@lukebehrendsbro.]

This map is actually pretty good. The secrets are kinda easy if you notice the pattern of any walls or panel by now with the 2 same design map wise here. I also love that it connects between this and previous map where you have to find the Red Key in order for you to exit this place & move on to the elevator once again. BMD will indeed be sad that you will never do %100 items. Still, good job on your playthrough.

[@heretic926]

32 minutes of pure insanity. And you didn't even died on this map, absolute Doom God. Well, the next map is considered their favorite by many people - The Mouth of Madness is indeed really epic looking map. Decided to complete Going Down myself and i'm only on MAP09, Broken Records. God, this WAD is reckless on UV.

[@FromBeyond013]

What a god, trying to kill the archvilles without invul

[@Z3nt4]

I have to say, your death record thus far and knack for secret-hunting puts you at Doom God tier in my book. Perhaps not in the challenge or speedrun categories where the likes of Zero Master and Ancalagon dwell, but you're definitely king of Survival Doom as well as Doomwiki incarnate.

[@nochthitus9397]

it's like Hunted meets Wormhole... terrifying!

[@flaming7220]

you know its gonna be a good video when it has a lot of monsters

[@friedchickenUSA]

its a good video when decino gets all the kills, is missing one secret, and the video is only half done.

[@Jobby_James]

"Massive Arch-vile maze." I feel like I've heard of that before oh well. It's a great map (especially with it's detail) but it kinda stinks that it gives you the BFG at the beginning as opposed to the Berserk Pack, the map would have benefitted by expecting the player to fist all 200 Arch-viles to get all the kills. Also the horizontally scrolling with the wave effect is really cool!

[@conzmoleman]

how the hell did you make that face appear?!

[@alexanderlindley197]

Member perks i think.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@conzmoleman Channel members get special emotes.

[@mysteriousstranger2287]

Extremely interesting. I wish more mappers did interesting things with skill levels

[@RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera]

OH YES welcome of the most awesome map of this mega wad the mighty and powerful "THE PAIN ARCHIE ELEMENTAL!!!" This Machine has 200 Mega Hurts power and pain to destroy every doomguy in a time in a moment and this is the map that I was really legit afraid because insided of the "THE PAIN ARCHIE ELEMENTAL MACHINE!!!" are Archi viles and Pain Elmental ready to destroy you and this I'm still unable to beat this map but today thankfuly your playthrough will help me to beat this Devil Map and End this Heck aside for that I'm truly Amazed that you manage to this Map.

[@CmdrShepardsPie]

I continue to really enjoy this Going Down series. I have interest in the Sunder series but boy those are long! I'd love to see you take a crack at Bloom (Blood Doom) in the near future, especially as Caleb on the "new" maps.

[@RyanHey]

This has been an awesome series - really enjoyable viewing. Great how you’re using timestamps/bookmarks for blind run/successful/bonus clips This is great - thanks for making it!

[@michaelaguilar6315]

You faced more than 200 archviles in sunlust so this is piece of cake :)

[@ToniHyvarinen86]

Ah, Mr. Icarus' favorite map.

[@smolsillycat228]

Damn, feature with returning to prevous level is A M A Z I N G

[@dantheman2888]

I have been binging decino lately!

[@alexbaxthedarkside]

Very clever circular room at the beginning housing archies in suspended animation, and the holes in the walls make it tricky to hit them, and u have blind corners an Archie can pop out of and scare you, very good understanding of the arch-viles strengths and weaknesses and how to put you as a player in a high pressure spot with them, love seeing this kind of emergent design from the community finding new ways to challenge all the pieces ID software gave us to play with in editors decades ago, they basically are enabling game designers for the future, good stuff! ^__________^ love ur work Decino, it's very relaxing on in the background while I work:))))

[@christopherrobin7984]

Getting a Decino upload every night at midnight has been an absolute treat lately

[@soulshinobi]

Despite being a gimmick this was actually super interesting and looks fun!

[@eljaminlatour6633]

100 Arch-viles seems like enough to fill a Terry wad.

[@savagemessiah.]

Teleporters that only work on certain difficulties to change the flow is a neat trick that should be used more often. Same with having keys in easier locations. Changes other than different enemies and more ammo I guess is what I want.

[@rollerofdoom1]

Couldn't really comment back at work, but I want to really thank you for taking the input and time to show that there are some mappers that do care about difficulties that aren't UV. Bless you, you doom buff nerd.

[@ChrisJEPlace]

26:38 "I ain't afraid of revenants." *instant max damage roll*

[@MountainLWolf]

Psycho music to enjoy while you endlessly secret hunt. Map was so easy, you decide to succeed with fast monsters. 😈 Thanks for the bonus video 😊

[@liangseng7474]

You don't have to apologise to BMD, you exited the map with 69% armor in your blind run, which is good enough

[@iguana9173]

Perfect video I’m just coming home from work.

[@СергейМисюк-ж1к]

We-he-he-hell, Christmas came early! Two uploads today, and both Going Down! Oh, can't wait till this bus takes me home, and I finally watch both vids. It's a 20 Damon minutes! If only I had an earpieces with me...

[@markh.876]

Needs a Decino difficulty where you fight the archies and revs all at once...

[@Podzhagitel]

MAP23 is the GOAT imo, the intro is pure kino

[@peterhawes9680]

At first I thought Decino would die because it's such a long video. Halfway through I thought 'is it a dancing revenant again?', but then the secret hunting, of course.

[@killbot_factory]

the next ten levels are some of the best Doom maps I've ever played...two upcoming levels in particular have some of the coolest visuals and architecture I've seen with the engine...enjoy, and I can't wait!

[@tommy8058]

When I saw the video length from over half an hour for this map I thought something special must be going on here and then it was just more or less the search for a damn secret that made it so long. And congrats Decino. For a blind run this was really good, understanding so quickly how this map works. Just bursting through the flamies and painies. It was awesome to watch.🙂👍

[@Quiltfish]

I actually love the concept of this map, but then I'm not the one playing :P. Gotta think those Tei Tenga textures were *very* intentional as well.

[@Tarles_X]

the entire map is only archvile army, man thats a good nightmare.

[@arkkisarkki]

Great run once again! The next one may not be super hard but it's absolutely one of the most memorable maps in the wad. Probably tied with map26 as far as pure spectacle goes.

[@KilgoreTroutAsf]

The music has a distinct Cyriak vibe.

[@decino]

I wonder who made the WAD!

[@tunczyk110]

it's positively baffling how quickly you dealt with these pain elementals. I spent so much time running around and almost ran out of cells

[@soulshinobi]

Your favorite enemy!

[@jqnbrz1746]

This wad is special for the nastys and troll fights. Awesome

[@maranainfirmux777]

First time I played this wad, I played with Brutal Doom. And this was the hardest map, because Pain Elemental's death explosion is actually lethal in Brutal Doom if you're too close - and this map is all about close PE combat.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

I imagine if you load up the same DeHackEd patch from Avactor that simulates the Doom 64 PE behavior (block a Lost Soul spawn, take a barrel explosion's worth of damage), you can get this same agony without BD, and Boom-compatible too. Ugh.

[@expendableround6186]

@@DinnerForkTongue I know MetaDOOM has Pain Elementals that bite you if you get too close.

[@Runie549]

Oh wow, didn't know about the Revenant version of the map! Thanks for showing that off! Makes me wonder if any of the other maps have interesting difficulty related quirks like that.

[@makhauser42]

Damn, this map is spooky, inspiring and disturbing at the same time. Like Mark's and Hugo's press-conference in 20 minutes. Speaking of 20, MAP20 is the Gotcha! origin, would it have the same? I don't know, honestly, but we will see

[@foxbonesmulder]

I've been waiting for an all archvile map for awhile, but this subverted my expectations quite well lmfao

[@clampulp]

oh wow I didn't know this map was different on different diffs, thanks for showing that off :)

[@oisnowy5368]

200 Mega Hurts... named after how the walls feel when players have managed to discover all the secrets. Poor walls. Great job! The fighting was enjoyable to watch. Longing for the next levels...

[@rvaughan74]

I seriously thought the second half would be full of Lost Souls up until all the teleports didn't work to get there (ie lindef skip to get the red key).

[@Manboyno5]

Teleport destinations can be flagged to not appear at certain difficulties, pretty clever use of that here

[@rvaughan74]

@@Manboyno5 Yes I know that. But at first I thought maybe decino skipped the linedef.

[@NekoKhris]

Next up: 1 GigaHurt It's just 500 revenants and 500 barons.

[@Drjebus]

@6:39 Not cheap. Inexpensive!

[@ArDeThSuNjEkOl]

archies: hey. hey decino. want a hurts donut??? decino: archies: hurts, donut? decino with invuln.: no

[@ps0mu]

Great, now we are waiting for a sequel: 2000 Mega Hurts

[@PowerSlaveAlfons]

For some reason it took me until you vocally said it, to realize the pun in the map name.

[@julio543mrb]

and is by a map like this that we can confirm that cyriak isnt evil... he is and absolute genius mad lad who knows how to do insane mind tricks on you D:

[@theshep]

Thanks again, good run, nice bonus clip, solid work!

[@Shyid]

deccino: 0:28 "200 enemies?! Don't tell me it's not 200 archviles" me: 0:28 PLEASE TELL ME IT'S 200 ARCHVILES. me: 14:00 YOU GUYS IT'S BETTER THAN 200 ARCHVILES!

[@GlauciaAgrippa]

15 minutes of wall massaging. My favorite type of video!

[@doomerrasa8475]

Friend of mine played going down and one of the earlier levels he went "wow this level has a lot of archviles". And I responded by saying "yeah that's definitely the level with a lot of archviles, that level is notorious as the going down level with many archviles". Also dang, was gonna post the fun fact about easy difficulty changing the level completely but you beat me to it.

[@ZeroMH]

I guess work can wait for a bit longer. Time keep watching Going Down

[@adz3d]

I saw this in my subscription and said "Oh yeah" out loud.

[@XtremeGamesW2013]

I love seeing you play this map, which is meant to be frantic and fast-paced, in your trademark steady, slow pace.

[@majamystic256]

This map is ridiculous and I like it

[@Wodgedev]

going down

[@michaeldonoghue9015]

Came for the slaughter, stayed for the secret hunting.

[@Dianbler]

This is the best Archiville map.

[@NovaSilisko]

I had a rough time with this map when I played - every time I grabbed an invuln, I got really unlucky and the arch vile fire thrust pinned me to the ceiling for most of it, so I ended up wasting pretty much all of them and had to creep through it bit by bit.

[@kentuckyjoe7443]

ive been waiting for this map :D

[@n00f]

decino uploads. Come for the fighting. Stay for the secrets.

[@BeheadedKamikaze]

Just to let you know - Dwars had to switch to GLBoom for the next one (MAP20), he said PRBoom was struggling on software rendering. Hope that's helpful decino! Love the series so far, can't wait for more 😁

[@decino]

I always play on OpenGL.

[@BeheadedKamikaze]

@@decino You should be fine then 👍

[@konchady1]

When you started your blind playthrough of going down, I told myself this was the point decino would lose his no death streak. Because there was, in my opinion, no way to do this without accessing the secret invuls. Not only did you do this without dying, you did it without the secrets (the tough part). Even when the invincibility ran out, you still held your own. Granted you lost your no death streak earlier but you didnt lose it here. I vowed to join if you succeeded in proving me wrong. Since you did, I joined. Love this map for the concept as well as the fact that you face two of the most annoying enemies in game en masse. Both of which either summon or raise enemies. Except revenants.

[@Flamewalk]

Imagine there's a casual player somewhere, who's thinking: I'm not not too good in Doom, I will try this wad on HNTR. Then he beats the wad, and proceeds to replay it on a higher difficulty. Imagine the shock he gets on this map:)