Gojo vs Kakashi Might Be Closer Than You Think

Gojo versus Kakashi, battle of the blindfolded white-haired sensei. Who wins? I think its a lot closer than people make it out to be, so lets talk about it,
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[@igoretarded5524]

This guy is a story analyst not a powerscaler, or a crossverse debater so people shouldn't try to grill him too hard

[@ivanbackfromthecardshop8093]

I dont think he even said anything that wrong to get mad over lol

[@igoretarded5524]

@@ivanbackfromthecardshop8093 There is definitely things he said that are heavily arguable if I'm being generous. But people shouldn't start getting in their feelings just because some guy shared his opinion on the internet

[@jaliun]

I love thag cus in the story not always the most statistically powerfull will win, it almost always relies on the narrative of the story so imo thats wag more important.

[@bishopdaking717]

@@igoretarded5524Like what? Nothing he said was really all that debatable.

[@nengifiedgamer7576]

Yh yh of course

[@Iloveyukiiloveyukiiloveyuki]

I randomly got hooked on this channel your way of speaking is very enjoyable

[@ykim0416]

That's me too haha I got hooked to how chill yet clearly he explains

[@TraceValorant]

exactly me, the way he speaks for some reason is really engaging

[@Fluskar]

ohio

[@talking_indian4296]

bro same

[@navneethgopal1211]

Since Dimensional slash can hit Gojo, then normal Kamui could also hit him, in my opinion. Since it warps space itself, it doesn't matter if there's infinite distance because that infinite distance is still contained in a space that can be warped. Kinda like drawing a line on a piece of paper, and then kamui just tears the paper. No matter the amount or length of lines on it, the paper can still be torn, which in turn severs the lines on it.

[@jimohabdulqudus4283]

Gojo's infinite space is infinite space. This was said in the end credit of a manga. He brings the concept into reality. Kamui can't warp infinite space...it warps finite space not infinite

[@Nu_r0ga]

​​@@jimohabdulqudus4283 Gojo's Infinity is not infinite. He can't project it outside of a predetermined radius (2-3 meters) surrounding him. It's basically a formula that divides an object or technique speed/space in said radius. Sukuna's dimensional slash only had to CUT SPACE through said distance/radius where the technique takes place, he didn't cut infinite distance. Same logic applies with Kakashi's space warping shurikens. They DISTORT SPACE that Gojo's infinity effect takes place, and they are shown to have a bigger radius than Gojo's technique. So there is a good chance of Kamui Shuriken distorting/bypassing the division effect that takes place inside infinity radius, thus working on Gojo.

[@Nu_r0ga]

​​@@jimohabdulqudus4283Also take into consideration that while Gojo's infinity works in a XYZ matrix, Sukuna's slash is apparently a 4th dimension technique. Able to cut through any of the XYZ axys a sorcerer stands. Same thing applies to Kamui, a technique that warps space into another DIMENSION. So long story short, it's a 4th dimension attack taking place in a bigger radius against a three dimensional defense in a smaller radius.

[@jimohabdulqudus4283]

@@Nu_r0ga The control of infinity alone is already scales to 4D lol. And Sukuna cut existence

[@jimohabdulqudus4283]

@@Nu_r0ga Gojo brings the concept of infinity to reality lol. Don't you know what control is? He can manipulate it. That's why even when Jogo thought he touched him, he didn't, that's how close Gojo made infinity. And he can make it much wider. And it's already said that it is infinite space by the mathematicians that Gege brought.

[@Zealot4435]

The way I understand kamui is that it’s like opening a portal to the other dimension at the focal point of your vision (the right eye specifically). Basically, this means that as long as he can follow you with his eyes and is looking directly at you, he can open kamui and use it on you. He has shown both in his fight against pain and his fights in the fourth great ninja war that he can open portals that follow subsonic to super sonic targets and targets that can be as large as mountains (obviously the portals aren’t mountain sized but the attacks are proportional to their size). So it’s safe to say that he could still easily hit Gojo by creating a big enough portal at the center of gojo’s body that would forcibly pull him into kamui. Even if he manages to escape the portal he would still take on some serious damage and would be open to attacks like genjutsu and even more kamui spam. It’s not instant, but kakashi definitely beats him mid diff.

[@Jo-np4gb]

kakashi couldn't even follow deidara's flying bird.

[@qiaojiang3526]

if gojo survives the first kamui it’s domain expansion time and over for kakashi

[@Warlock-9]

​@@Jo-np4gbyeah before the war arc begin

[@stea_mbunzz7395]

​@Jo-np4gb That was the first time he used Kamui. We're talking about a Kakashi that was fighting a God, tagging her who was relative to a Naruto dodging light speed attacks with ease

[@Zealot4435]

@@Jo-np4gb actually he specifically said that he was to high up for him to get a clear shot, and said he didn’t have enough chakra to use kamui multiple times. Because like everyone said before, that’s him at the beginning of the series. I specifically mentioned war arc kakashi.

[@heatran1919]

I think, on a physics level, light just passes normally through infinity without having to travel any notable extra distance. If it was traveling an infinite distance, light could never escape his infinity bubble and hed just be a big walking void. Since there is light clearly reflecting off Gojo, that either means light is completely unaffected by infinity, or that Gojo allows light to pass through it normally. Like, if the light was actually moving much much further, there would be a delay between what we see of Gojo, and what hes actually doing. Like, the sun is about 8 light minutes away from Earth, if the sun were to suddenly vanish, it would take 8 minutes before we see it happen from the Earths surface. Honestly, it would be very effective in combat for Gojo to slow the light leaving his infinity, even by a second. The fact that he doesnt either means he cant, or that Gege just never thought of it lol. Would make sense for it to be beyond Gojo's capabilities; the Six Eyes give him sight of atomic precision, but photons are waaayyy smaller than atoms

[@ivanbackfromthecardshop8093]

I think he could do it if he wanted to target everything he just wouldnt be able to let air in lol

[@tyfuego3721]

Question: does kamui move at the speed of light cause from what I saw the technique is actually quite slow

[@TheSpartan3669]

​@@tyfuego3721No. If I'm remembering correctly, Deidera had time to dodge it.

[@heatran1919]

@@tyfuego3721 Yeah that's definitely unclear, but as far as I can tell, it does seem like ranged sharingan abilities do travel via the light reflected off of them. But it could also just be a packet of chakra fired from the eyes at sub-light speed, either interpretation is a valid read of the text. The real answer is that Kishimoto isnt a physicist, and just never had that level of granular specificity in mind with regards to how abilities like Kamui or Tsukoyomi actually travel through space

[@WorldSlash_]

Well gojos infinity is like semi permeable memebrane

[@erthsda6758]

To be fair when Kakashi used Kamui on Deidara when he like first got access to the ability. His skill with Kamui enhanced megatons against Pain and Obito

[@hayyan958]

facts🔥 💯 bro sniped a tiny-ass nail that moving faster than a bullet right before it hit his head.🥶

[@dominicwoodford5711]

Deidara is fast af too if you ignore the fact Sasuke embarrassed him and look at his feats

[@opsh5652]

@@hayyan958 sasuke’s arrow

[@hayyan958]

@@opsh5652 I'm saying he has great accuracy since he hit such a small fast moving target perfectly, He'd def be able to hit gojo.

[@eazybaby5094]

Ehh. Just like Sukuna’s World Slash, Kamui is targeting the area and absorbing matter in that space rather than the person themselves. So pretty sure it would bypass Infinity. I lean more towards that than thinking it wouldn’t touch Gojo. I think it’s a stretch the other way around.

[@matheusbensaba6105]

On the "target system" argument, it was hard for Kakashi to aim on Deidara because of inexperience, later he uses with way more precision on characters way more faster. He especifically kamuis a Rasengan out of Naruto hands whose was moving at full speed to hit a enemy with it (at the time Naruto was one of the fastest characters in the verse and Kakashi was able to pull out a precision Kamui a instant before the Rasengan hit the target). DMS Kakashi also Kamuis a Dimensional Portal from Kaguya before a hitkill attack through the portal could land on Naruto whose was right in front of the portal (also at this point in the end of the manga, Naruto and Kaguya are in top 5 fastest characters in the verse). And about if kamui could hit Gojo, at least as the way it seems to work, it basically opens a hole in space where Kakashi is focusing his point of view, so due to the fact it seems to work just like how the dimensional slash killed Gojo, I convinced that yeah it would work as well.

[@maverickk4910]

When I see this matchup I remember a meme fight with those two where guy appears confounds Gojo and Kakashi and end up kicking Kakashi out and helping Gojo

[@user-uh6gl6hb1s]

Ik what you are talking about. BTW, there is a part 2 to that video called yuji vs Naruto

[@Isaac265]

Another thing, kakashi gets much better at kamui. He was struggling to target deidara in the beginning but in the war arc, he was using kamui on rasengans, which are pretty significantly tinier than a human body or head with pretty perfect accuracy

[@blazeingsonicthegod8417]

In the topic of Gojo's domain expansion being a win condition, You got to remember that Kakashi has his kamui dimension that he can just dip to. The domain wont hit him if he isn't in the same realm as Gojo

[@yunan9610]

Yea would be pretty easy to get outta of the barrier. But kakashi is still on the same dimension before activating kamui so the domain expansion would still trap him. Then it would also depend on how the sure hit effect interacts with Narutoverse defensive skill like susano'o. Getting hit by infinite amount of information would leave you stunned even if you're kakashi. Don't forget that Domain expansions hits really fast. If Kakashi can't react within miliseconds he would get stunned. But if he's constantly using susanoo and it could tank the sure hit effect then the Domain expansion will be rendered useless

[@blazeingsonicthegod8417]

@@yunan9610 sauske did use his susano to protect him and team kakashi from the infinite tsukiyomi, so Kakashi's susano could also defend him from domain. The win condition being if he has his susano out while fighting.

[@blazeingsonicthegod8417]

@@yunan9610 naruto verse characters are faster than jjk verse too,so Kakashi either shielding himself or using kamui when gojo stands still and uses his domain is possible

[@SecondSoulo]

@@blazeingsonicthegod8417the susano wouldn’t change the target so he’d still get hit. Domain expansion isn’t infinite tsukiyomi

[@MirageMancer]

The personality aspect is really important glad you touched on it. The only thing i would add is kakashi eyes would most likely put Gojo on guard because its obviously unique like his six eyes

[@yuvraj..6741]

There is NO infinite distance in infinity. Its a finite distance divided upto infinitum

[@SecondSoulo]

Which would create infinite distance

[@yuvraj..6741]

@@SecondSoulo it won't, it would trap you in an infinite no. of finite distances. If it was truly Infinite distance it won't slow you down to the point of stopping but rather stop you right away (*that distinction is present because it's NOT infinite distance)

[@SecondSoulo]

@@yuvraj..6741 you don’t understand how the ability works. It brings to reality the paradox of infinity by dividing the true distance between you and an object in half everytime you get closer and you can divide your distance in half an infinite amount of times. It’s not finite.

[@yuvraj..6741]

@@SecondSoulo ik how it works and you're spot on about how it works but just because it's similar to Infinite distance doesn't automatically make it one. That distinction will still continue to exist.

[@quinnconley9827]

I really enjoy the content, keep it up! For my question, how was Megumi not able to summon Mahoraga during his fight with sukuna? Did he just decide not to or was there something stopping him from actually carrying the ritual out?

[@Warlock-9]

Probably he sees itadori had taken over

[@dominicwoodford5711]

He literally saw Yuji take over

[@ManganimistYT]

Thank you so much for the support! I answer your question in this video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5fJZH6fi8img7s

[@smirks_9]

Amazing video man. I love the way you perceive and execute your videos. Also at 2:31 i have the same wallpaper for my phone lol😂.

[@Lorenzoh_Victor]

To get honest, you give a better analysis than even those who tell themselves they have a PhD in naruto series and just open a channel

[@kingpiggy7143]

In the war kakashi could snipe a rasengan out of narutos hand mid fight. So hitting Gojo wouldn't be too hard, also kamui lighting blade

[@ryanw459]

I haven’t even started the video fully but he even said from the beginning he’s not a power scaler and that he’s just throwing in his two cents so whoever is grilling him is trippin

[@immortalthumbz]

Kamui seems to work like a photo in which once everything is lined up he takes a screenshot (kamui)

[@eventhoyouwerentasking]

A man of culture.

[@UNKNOWNL3G3ND]

The thing is, the Kakashi that fought Deidara is much less proficient at the ability and the eye puts a lot of strain on him and draina him as well. DMS Kakashi wont have the same issue, infact he is physically faster and his eye can track at much higher speeds than Gojo should be able to move. The reason Deidara is defend is because Kakashi cant efficiently keep his eye sight at him (theres a lot of strain) and Kamui (for that Kakashi) isn't being instant with the job. But for someone like Gojo, Kakashi shouldn't have much of an issue since he has a lot more chakra, little to no strain and he can effortlessly track Gojo. For the whole "can he Kamui past infinity", yes he should, because he doest really "look at infinity", the target is where Kakashi looks, its instantly opening at that place. When you make the "can he Kamui the sun tho?", it's like "who knows because he doesn't do it" and one MAJOR thing that the Sun is MASSIVE. Its not like Gojo's few inches worth of neck. He also can't properly look at the sun. But Gojo isn't the sun, hes very much properly visible and forget just his neck or head, even his whole body is not even the size of a tail of Gyuuki, whom Kakashi with a single MS transported. Overall Kakasho just takes it, he has multiple arguments against Kamui, and even if you don't agree, Gojo also just cant hit Kakashi, he has kamui phasing, which has little to no arguments of bypassing it.

[@yuvraj..6741]

Kamui js a space/time ninjutsu, even the shuriken after touching the infinity will teleport the space/time in which gojo and infinity exist into kamui dimension

[@rainbowgang1807]

1. DMS Kakashi is FTL in soeed and reaction time therefore no amount of weaving and dodging can stop Kakashi from tracking you to get a Kamui off (and Sharingan buffs your visual skills on top of that) 2. You forgot to mention that he tracked Kamui'd a nail from Pain that was way faster than the Deidara feat and that he tracked and Kamui'd a rasengan from Naruto during War Arc prior to DMS when Naruto was top 5 fastest character in the verse at that point. 3. Domain Expansion would never hit Kakashi even if Cursed Energy and Chakra was equalized, domains still have a setup time which is not FTL which means Kakashi can evade. Not too mention his Susanoo which is easily bigger than any Domain Gojo has created. 4. Kamui is a 4D attack simple as that, just like dimensional slash is 4D. Having both the Sharingans makes the creation of Kamui portals much faster not that it matters because of point 1. The bigger the target the more chakra it takes which means the Sun is a very difficult object to Kamui. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask.

[@zsoltklem5006]

The interesting part is that Kakashi has something like infinity too. If he has the eye of Obito, in theory, he could easily do the trick Obito did to not get damaged by attacks. So neither of them can hit the other with normal attacks, only difference is, kamui is activated when needed, infinity is passive. If Kakashi is not aware of the attack (unlikely with sharingan) or the attack is faster than he can activate it (again, unlikely with higher power levels at that point), ooor, and this is the important part, he is incapacitated, his block is not working. We see him taken out by tsukuyomi, and he can only recover with the help of Tsunade, the best healer of the verse. The domain of Gojo is clearly stronger than that, tsukuyomi is finite, even if it is pure pain so more damaging, still not endless info-dump. If in his current state Kakashi can take it just for a few seconds, he can kamui out, infinite void is anchored to an area of space, not inside the mind, so he can leave it, no problem. If he can't take it, and needs just a single second to get to his senses, that is enough to land a blow with the speed Gojo can achieve, and as kamui is not always active, that hit lands 100%. So if he can take the domain long enough, Gojo literally has no wincon, even purple would just go through a phased-out body. Whether Kakashi has an actual wincon is a different topic, but it was discussed already, I just wanted to point out a different perspective. I also want to add that yes, I think he can kamui the sun, but the bigger his target, the harder it is to do, and the sun is BIG. Other than that, a line of sight and the ability to bring the target into the focus-point of the eye seems to be the only condition, and light is clearly not affected by the infinite space, or we would not see Gojo. If they both have a wincon, the question is who can do it faster, like would Gojo take the fight seriously enough to open a domain early on, or play around and take a hit that is just a bit too big for him. Kakashi always takes it seriously, that is not a problem. If neither of them has one, they either agree to a draw, considering both are smart enough to not make such an enemy/exhaust all their reserves/not try to get such an ally, or it comes down to who can take it longer, and that is Gojo. Kakashi can use kamui more often than Gojo can use his domain, but uses more energy to keep up his perfect defense and to keep up with strong attacks, Gojo has such perfect control that keeping up his defense is natural and even his attacks are almost spammable. Would be a long and insane fight, but I think in the end the six eyes are just better for drawn-out fights. Or Kakashi just escapes, Gojo can't do anything about that, so again, draw. The problem is that none of these abilities are defined clearly enough to be comparable with each other, so we'll never know.

[@novanomi3362]

I think gojo's passive infinity is conditional, in that it doesnt effect light, probably a binding vow, or gege physics. This would mean that kamui can be activated at gojo's location even if you think it has a range limit imo.

[@louisjones8345]

A really big thing to remember is Kakashi has two mangekyo sharingan, which means he has two more ways of getting around limitless: Sharingan Genjutsu, which is NASTY and presents a really powerful way of potentially getting Gojo to deactivate limitless, and Izanagi, a literally reality-warping technique

[@vrbe3694]

Technically speaking Infinity has a targeting system too, even if automatic, right? I think light is not affected by Infinity as it is registered as an harmless entity. Then again I have seen 0 episodes of Naruto so idk how Kamui works, meaning my speculation ends here lmao

[@GGATES608]

To my understanding kamui works by looking at the target and warping that space into the kamui dimension. Based on that the way I see it is that aslong as u can see your target and fathom there actual size and where u would have to hit kamui then yes it goes through infinity. What I think matters here is how large the target actually is. Kakashi does not nearly have enough chakra to even imagine how big he would have to make kamui to warp the sun for example.

[@Bossking1]

The only thing that confuses me here is how you logiced how Kamui shuriken wouldn’t work. World cutting slash also HAS travel time. It’s certainly avoidable but the main issue is you can’t see them. Except Gojo of course hence why he probably got bisected because he thought the world cutting slash would do what you said in this video just not reach him like a normal slashes. However just like in the video where you explain how the world cutting slash works. It’s basically as if the 2 dimensional plane itself is cut, aka bypassing conventional durability and infinity. Kamui and all Kamui based techniques are literally working on this same principle. It’s the reason Kamui lightning blade is able to harm Kaguya who tanked multiple tailed beast bomb rasengans. Both world cutting slash and Kamui are essentially cutting the plane itself. So why would these techniques NOT work on Gojo is a better question. This isn’t even accounting for speed which is just blatantly unfair in Naruto’s direction. This is a fun matchup at first to make then you realize it is kind of unfair in many aspects.

[@memestar2419]

What people also gotta think about it chakra usage, we know for most jutsu the more chakra the bigger, so it may be that it would take a massive amount to kamui anything big away, but kakashi in the war arc against the jinchurki states he will blast the tailed beast bombs away with Kamui, and hes an intelligent guy with massive battle iq, if he says something is true im inclined to believe him meaning that kakashi could have probably used kamui on the 3 bombs, it might’ve killed him and drained him of a massive amount of chakra, but he seemed to think he could

[@KOGBILLY]

Isn't perfect susano a factor here at all? How would gojo deal with something of that size and power?

[@AnimeFacts5]

U legit said dms kakshi but ur only using early Shippuden kakshi feats,mind u kakashi has kamui raikri which would donut gojo,and as for domain expansion what is stopping kakashi from use genjustu or just kamuing into another dimension before he cast's it

[@Probalic]

I think in much the same way as sukunas world slash, kakashi just needs to target the space in which gojo exists in order for kamui to hit, assuming kamui wouldn't bypass infinity normally. Kamui is literally just a better version of the world slash. The other factor is whether Gojo would be able to hit Kakashi (besides domain expansion ofc) because we knew kakashi can slip through all attacks in this form.

[@eazybaby5094]

Pretty sure this is the answer. Just like Sukuna’s World Slash, Kamui is targeting the area and absorbing matter in that space rather than the person themselves. So pretty sure it would bypass Infinity. I lean more towards that than thinking it wouldn’t touch Gojo. I think it’s a stretch the other way around.

[@Niranjan04]

​@@eazybaby5094that begs the question (which was stated in the video) can Kakashi just see the sun and use Kamui at it?

[@eazybaby5094]

@@Niranjan04 but the sun is sooooo far away. That’s like asking if Sukuna can dimension slash the sun. Like it’s a interesting hypothetical, but that’s not what’s being asked. I don’t think Gojo is infinitely far away from getting Kamui’d, just like he wasn’t infinitely far enough away for dimension slash

[@Niranjan04]

@@eazybaby5094 yeah yeah ofcourse but it's still fun to theorize about it lol

[@rohanthomas6629]

Actually Kakashi's Kamui Shurikens have Kamui imbued in them, and the portals would still work considering Kakashi can make it big enough to where he entire swallows Gojo in the Kamui essentially. Kamui can already go through dimensions, able to go through TSO which can create and destroy by going to different dimensions which had a moon and iirc solar system. And Kakashi... would be able to survive Infinite Void due to iirc Tsukuyomi being able to do the same thing. I might be wrong though.

[@Zero-tk1hb]

Infinite Void is not the same as Tsukuyomi. Tsukuyomi is a ilusion, a really good one. Infinite void is flooding your brain with so much information that you get stunned or you get your brain fried.

[@obe1_kenobi]

The Kamui shuriken logic makes sense, it's similar to how Sukuna's world slash works. But I do think UV would still work on Kakashi. Even if it's at a much less effective due to the Tsukuyomi logic, if we're assuming Gojo is bloodlusted, he's following up with a purple and that might end it there and then.

[@kenos1956]

no kakashi got hospitalized from Tsukuyomi dude, and regardless, its about him getting stunned by it and then getting hollow purpled

[@greentube1357]

​@@Zero-tk1hbKakashi would be fast enough to enter kumai dimension or react and run before he could even open domain Kakashi speed> domain speed of we scale

[@ihopespaceisedible330]

The Kamui shuriken is better due to it having a large area of effect. The shuriken deleted multiple of giant form kaguya’s limbs immediately so that can probably delete decent chunk of area while the base kamui is a single target. Edit: there isn’t an infinity amount space around Gojo but instead an approaching thing is slowing it to an infinite amount creating infinite space

[@AjarTadpole7202]

We can argue about Kamui all day, but Infinite Void is a win condition for KAKASHI, not gojo. Because as soon as he takes that blindfold off, hes gonna be caught in a genjustu. Yes RCT would break him out of it eventually, but not immediatley. All Kakashi needs is a split second without infinity to deal with and Gojo's toast, which a genjustu could do. And Genjustu absolutley can cross an infinite distance, as long as the light from their eyes have crossed that infinite distance, as seen with infinite tsukuyomi. And light can clearly cross Infinity, so if Gojo tries taking off his blindfold, which he needs to do for DE, hes toasted.

[@Dumpsterfire_07]

well.. doesn’t his limitless work subconsciously, and can detect around attacks? and kakashi is not tanking a purple or max chanted blue or red

[@jspsand7085]

​@@Dumpsterfire_07true.

[@TrippieMint]

Genjutsu requires chakra to invade the body to mess with their senses Infinity would be able to block out chakra since it can block out abstractions like cursed energy and there’s nothing to prove that it would be able to travel such distances On top of that he has the six eyes so that renders him immune to most mind affecting abilities

[@SK-pc8ni]

He can phase thorugh them because of intangibility​@@Dumpsterfire_07

[@AjarTadpole7202]

@@Dumpsterfire_07 Genjutsu affects the whole psyche, not just the conscious. Least if its powerful enough, which any sharingan genjustu would be. And I agree that Kakashi isn't tanking a purple, but blue and red I heavily disagree on. Susanoo's are quite durable and notably resistant to being moved around. I dont know if DMS kakashi ever had to deal with shinra tensei or bansho tenin, but those would provide a good marker for destructive power since they're basically just better versions of blue and red respectively.

[@alexchng]

I imagine that Kamui might function similarly to Sukuna's dimensional slash? But I could be wrong

[@musicme7757]

Kamui being unable to hit him due to having infinite distance would be a good argument unless you take into consideration that gojou's CT basically divides finite distance into infinitely small infinite fractions, as stated by gojou his technique infinity exists everywhere and his technique brings that into reality. If you consider infinity exists everywhere then Kakashi having used kamui several times means he technically used it on an infinite distance. Or simply that gojou's infinity is actually finite distance cut into smaller fractions, and kamui from what I understand appears on the target so the distance wouldn't be much of an issue since gojou is not creating a gap of infinite distance he's more so turning finite distance into infinitely small infinite fractions. It may sound nonsensical but it might provide a different perspective. And also any ability that can rip apart and manipulate space time can effect gojou. As for your argument regarding kamui shuriken not being able to hit gojou because it travels, I'm pretty sure sukuna's dismantle which turned gojou into go/jo travelled as well which means and attacks that can rip apart spacetime fabric can bypass infinity. N plus I don't think just like how you said Kakashi may not be able to send Kamui to the sun, sukuna probably would not be able to dismantle the sun either, but his ability hit gojou. Kakashi also being the extremely cautious fighter he is would probably use genjutsu or send a shadow clone to gojou'e limitless void, or he may be able to Kamui himself away from the domain.

[@dassa-oz5rf]

Btw he can kamui out of the domain from below if hes faster but idont think so

[@aymanriki1018]

he is faster, dms kakashi is ftl lol

[@dassa-oz5rf]

@@aymanriki1018 im talking about 0.2 domain

[@arzentvm]

​@@dassa-oz5rf ftl is wayyyyyy faster than 0.2 domain

[@RapKnight_]

I'd have to disagree with the infinity/sun analogy. Simply because infinity is shown to defend against traveling attacks, attacks that originate from attacker A towards Gojo. With kamui, it's less of a travel attack and more of a spawn in attack and the reason I don't think that distance would be an issue is because even though infinity puts an "infinite" physical barrier between gojo and his opponent it's never shown to actually change the distance they view him at, he's still in the same spot they just can't get close to him anymore.

[@garykeller2007]

One thing I think needs more talking points. Can Kakashi even target through an infinite space and actually perceive where Gojo is to hit him? I don't think Kakashis eyes are that powerful but I could be wrong there. Oh shit he actually thought of this too? This is why I'm subbed lol we are clearly like minded.

[@imitating4ngels]

one thing everyone is seemingly forgetting is the fact that since we're using dms kakashi, that means he also has obito's kamui passively active, and he's starting the fight in his perfect susanoo. so unless kakashi were to leave his susanoo for some reason, there's no way he'd ever get caught by infinite void unless gojo were to fly all the way up to where kakashi is. also, couldn't kakashi just kamui out of infinite void as the barrier is being formed? since it's already established that kakashi scales higher than gojo in every category, i see no reason why he shouldn't be able to react to being trapped in what he'd perceive to be some sort of sealing technique, not too dissimilar to what minato did against obito. i still think gojo may have a few win cons, but it definitely isn't close.

[@yahyaamr2219]

I think kamui is like dimensional slash it attacks the space itself so anything inside it gets affected by it but i dont think how kakashi is escapping domain expansion since it effect is deadly , we all saw how heavily sukuna was damaged by just 0.01 second delay and ofcourse kakshi wins the hand to hand combat bec of his sharingan butvan important thing that is overlooked is that gojo has rct so he can heal body parts unlike kakashi so i think gojo has an upper hand but it's still a close fight , out of 10 fights i think gojo wins 6

[@jawz9455]

So in otherwords, to beat Gojo's infinity you would need a sure-hit ability.

[@tejiriziregbe1816]

I think it’s a matter of who does what first. Kamui is just like the inter dimensional slash. And it would kill Gojo. Also there’s Genjutsu. Which would eventually allow kakashi finish gojo. But if it get to a domain or if gojo lets off a blue kakashi is dead.

[@slate8409]

The Deidara feat is horribly out of date even by mid series. During the Pain arc Kakashi was able to target what was essentially a nail turned into a bullet that Pain accelerated to "shoot" Kakashi from a safe distance despite him being immobilized - and then immediately after that I seem to recall him making a missile disappear mid-flight with similar restrictions. By the time of the War arc he was targeting fast moving projectiles with it no problem after he'd gotten some practice and experience with it. Hitting a human sized target wouldn't be a problem in the slightest with how fast and accurate Kakashi was by that point. Similarly, Gojo would have little to no defense against genjutsu. Soon as he makes eye contact with Kakashi the use condition is met, period. The only reason genjutsu stopped being used later in the series was because all of the antagonists had some form of Sharingan or doujutsu, and Kakashi learned very early on how testing those waters went with Itachi. Gojo, conversely, doesn't have that defense - in this case the roles are reversed where Kakashi can cast the genjutsu and while the Six Eyes might see /something/ they lack the ability to flip genjutsu back around on the caster as the Sharingan can innately do. But yeah, I agree with the personality but and it's honestly why I'd give Kakashi the win. Gojo fucks around too much in his fights. Conversely Kakashi is very, very well aware of his limitations and weaknesses. He knows he has stamina issues and in almost every case where he's been allowed to Kakashi's generally gone for the kill shot on opponents he considers a threat, and in general he takes most people he fights fairly seriously if it's not a training exercise. Odds are that Gojo fucks around to either show off or out of curiosity while Kakashi figures out he can't touch past Infinity and then immediately goes for either Kamui or genjutsu once he knows conventional taijutsu and ninjutsu won't work. DMS is sort of pointless here seeing in that all of the techniques Kakashi would need for this would be available to him during the War arc. All DMS does is give him a few additional Kamui techniques and Susanoo, neither of which are at all useful against Gojo.

[@jspsand7085]

Gojo can damage his brain and heal it using rct to escape a genjutsu.

[@greentube1357]

​​​​@@jspsand7085bro gojo would die bro💀 since if a genjutsu user were to effectively destroy all five senses of the victim by his command , it leads death of victim genjutsu targets 5 senses So he is making easy for genjutsu user it doesn't matter if he heals or not if that's the case people in Naruto verse with healing jutus would escape genjutsu but that's not the case here

[@greentube1357]

​@jspsand7085 also genjutsu is like domain so by ur argument anyone who have rct can escape domain expansion don't u see how stupid this argument is

[@edgbarra]

​@@greentube1357why do you think that genjutsu are like domain? Those are illusions, domains are physical

[@edgbarra]

I think Gojo would take this fight seriously. With the 6 eyes he'll be able to tell Kakashi is stronger. The genjutsu is a good point. But I guess the defense would be to activate domain expansion. That would not work against the genjutsu but it will hit Kakashi and fry his brain, stopping the genjutsu 🤔

[@thekamotodragon]

The thing is i think Kakashi has more than 1 win condition that just kamui, like what about genjutsu or even, since you gave him DMS, the right eye's ability of phasing through everything and teleporting anywhere? Gojo wouldn't be able to hit him since he'd just phase everything and could probably teleport INSIDE his infinity to get him. Although i do think you were right that DE is a win con for Gojo and would one hit KO Kakashi.

[@ayyjahh1943]

Though Kamui would bypass infinity since it distorts space, its not instant. We see characters dodge it and we see Minato straight up teleport out of it. Since Gojo has teleportation I can imagine he would just do the same and any body parts caught inside( if they are affected) can just be RCT unless Kakashi aims for the head. Thats Kakashi only win con tbh and if he misses it too much his eyes will strain rendering the ability negligible.

[@jordanc.3453]

i dont think people truly understand how overpowered dms kakashi is, like hes practically unbeatable

[@zizu-lakaka]

Bro's fodder to Mechamaru 💀

[@jordanc.3453]

im sure you're joking but if you arent, please elaborate@@zizu-lakaka

[@buggiepadre7044]

If a dimensional slash can bypass infinity I think a dimensional ocular Justu does the same. Also he targeted a nail and an arrow shot by a susano with his MS bro you cant forget those feats if you’re gonna use the deidara fight as evidence. Maybe you forgot those but with those feats stacked along with what you already said he low diffs

[@thatguy779]

I think that given how we know that light, sound, even smoke, and especially spatial distortions can pass through infinity, I'm not really holding my breath that it stops kamui. And if we're giving Gojo the ability to hit Kakashi with his domain expansion there's two ways that I would say are "fair" to go abt it: 1- it wouldn't work because we can't just assume that Kakashi has cursed energy *just* for the sake of giving Gojo an edge 2- We say that cursed energy is analogous enough to the mental energy portion of chakra that Gojo's domain would be able to target Kakashi and inversely, the sharingan should work on Gojo. Under the 2nd assumption, the odds slide further into Kakashi's favor in my opinion. As this means that unless we assume otherwise, genjutsu should work on Gojo and you could even make the argument that Kakashi might be able to actually copy Gojo's techniques. So in my mind- without and cross verse speculation, Kakashi is the only one with an arguable wincon. Under similar rules but we only give Gojo his sure hit effect, then it's probably closer to 7/3 of 10 in Kakashi's favor. Under the speculated crossover rules which give both players the most canon leeway, then Kakashi sweeps 9/10 times

[@spikeimperial]

so how come Danzo could use Izanagi but not Kakashi? What's stopping kakashi from regenerating his lost eye with the 2nd eye, from the 1st use of Izanagi and basically "Reality bending" his death until needed?

[@UNKNOWNL3G3ND]

Btw, even the domain might not work. First of all, it depends on how much the domain actually affects him, for that lets take an example of Kakashi (a much weaker one) against a similar attack, Itachi's Tsyukyomi. Now a lot of people would say that Kakashi couldn't even survive 3 days, but here's the thing, Itachi can decide how much time passes in the Tsyukyomi world but also how SLOW or fast it can move, for eg, there was a whole sequence of Kakashi undergoing torture, which could be anywhere from 15-60 mins and then Itachi goes on and tells that one second has passed, he also had these "clones" sort of thing where it looks like it's to of Kakashi undergoing the torment. All in all, the Tsyukyomi world is strange, despite Kakashi being in there for 72 hours, he would have felt the information of possibly Gojo opening his domain on him, and that's a Kakashi from not even 100 chapters in the series. Not that relevant, but even after enduring Tsyukyomi, Kakashi was able to stand for few min before totally getting knocked out that to standing on water which requires concious or subconscious effort. The other thing is, even if Gojo let's say "fries his brain" and Kakashi isn't actually getting hit, just like Gojo's infinity, Kakashi has Kamui phasing, and it's always active and it's hard to counter it. So Kakasbi could jusst lay there and Gojo charging purples and none of them connecting.

[@greentube1357]

Kakashi can react to domain and head to kamui dimension lmao he is flt and domain take time he's low balling Kakashi by comparing celestial bodiy with gojo lol who is object which is irrelevant gojo infinity slow downs momentum by dividing infinite spaces but for Kakashi kamui speed is not facotor so he can kamui kakashi wins negg difficulty if i am being honest here

[@UNKNOWNL3G3ND]

@@greentube1357 ik. let's give him the props for trying

[@greentube1357]

@@UNKNOWNL3G3ND u can look some of them don't even know how gojo infinity works looks t top comments.. It's ironically sad ik jjk bias would be here

[@TPGooey]

When people look at him they're not seeing him across an infinite distance. His infinity doesn't affect the light that enters it because it isn't dangerous. When you look at him through his infinity you're just seeing him as you would if his barrier was down. If you shot a laser hot enough to hurt him, it wouldn't arrive. This is assuming he's relying on the automatic calculations of mass and velocity that decide what makes it through his infinity. Since Kamui just appears, then there is no way it's getting affected by infinity.

[@marcuschiong306]

please do luffy vs gojo

[@angelorussell306]

Well, I think genjutsu would also work. If there in any condition that Gojo removes his blindfold, Kakashi could use genjutsu to subdue gojo for a victory.

[@VOID_Too]

Zaza Is my life I am nothing without Zaza (Enjoying the vid btw)

[@youraveragejoe2712]

bro is high on heaven right now

[@Juninhor110]

One thing I was discussing with my friend - DMS Kakashi have the same intangibility as Obito, if that could surpass infinity? Probably, bc it's him entering another dimension, and like, dimensional slash CAN cut Gojo. Another factor is that Kakashi can materialize raikiri inside out Gojo (Kamui Raikiri jutsu). So either is him hitting a long ranged visual Kamui, or bypassing infinity with the Kamui intangibility and hitting him close or like, 0 range.

[@Timber834]

Your assuming gojo isn’t gonna fight back?

[@Timber834]

He can use blue which pulls in space around him to make up for the blank space and even if kakashi is intangible he still is a part of that space

[@Juninhor110]

@@Timber834 nah dude, I'm sure Gojo would fight back. I've even considered the fact that the speed match would be a problem. I'm just saying the things that Kakashi could do to reach Gojo through infinity.

[@Juninhor110]

@@Timber834 but I truly think that is Kakashi is hit but Gojo's domain, it would be game over for Kakashi

[@Timber834]

@@Juninhor110 yeah, I said that too in the poll, that if kamui or something he has can bypass infinity he could atleast hit him to deal damage The problem is domain, so kakashi would have to subdue/kill him before he domains or else its instant death Though, if kakashi can copy his ability maybe he could bypass it that way too

[@radzimag6012]

Kamui displaces anything it touches. That being said it can bypass infinity if it was instantaneous but it isn't, so Gojo can definitely dodge it. I think kamui becomes a problem if Gojo is caught off guard but then again the six eyes perceive basically everything all times so Kakashi would have to sneak him. Otherwise Gojo takes the win, he has too many hacks going for him. And I don't think he would need hollow purple because he could just use blue and keep a distance in the entire fight so he can keep dodging the kamui. Another thing is that gojo can heal so how long does it take Kakashi to figure out to go for the brain before Gojo kills him because he has no defence against Gojo's attacks and if the first kamui doesn't end it I doubt much more can land effectively, key word being "effectively" before the six eyes are acclimated. Plus if it drags out Kakashi will run out of Chakra. One domain expansion and it's gg

[@edgbarra]

Remember that Gojo also has the 6 eyes. He could probably know something about the Komui, maybe not exactly what it does but surely that it's very dangerous. Gojo will take the fight seriously from the start if he can see how strong Kakashi is

[@PhoenixEN12]

I am surprised he didn't talk about the second eye even if u need to touch gojo to use that kamui couldn't he kamui to the end of the infinite space of kamui away the space

[@Akillez]

The problem is domain expansioning Kakashi like u said here. A domain is bringing your innate domain (basically your mind space) creating a space and imbuing it with your technique. If this is DMS Kakashi like used in this video (meaning he has Obito's other eye). Kakashi can just teleport in the Kamui dimension (wait there if he wants lol) and just teleport out. And Gojo wouldn't be able to physically hit Kakashi either, as said this is DMS Kakashi, he can just phase through attacks. I'd say Kakashi wins this mid diff. If you know both these characters toolskits to the brim. Gojo doesn't have a win condition. And I think Kamui does get pass infinity. The issue I would say Kakashi would have is landing a perfect blow on Gojo with Kamui, as the mf can fly, teleport, and he's fast as shit. Kakashi wins though imho

[@mayankbhaskar8545]

Hey so I think kamui shuriken sherds through gojo because it's not really touching you, it's directly touching the space you exist in so it's quite literally the thing that killed gojo so I think that'd get it done easily

[@RavindarKumar-hk1qn]

I think hollow purple will not work on kakashi because he can enter kamui dimension like obito hollow purple will just pass through him

[@drsh1711]

You forgot Kakashi also has a power of Kamui which lets phase through dimension at will so none of Gojo's attack also work and if Kakashi gets the timing right he can just run into another dimension before he gets hit by Unlimited Void

[@mahinkader25]

Yeah. For gojo, he can just use the domain expansion and can easily win in this fight. If kakashi struggle in itachi's tsukuyomi, then gojo's 0.2 domain is enough to win this fight. But since its kakashi the copy ninja who knows over a thousand jutsus with perfection, I'd say he will do something that gojo can't do anything about.(It's like when gara used his jutsu on madara to get him out of the susanoo).

[@thelastushiha3394]

In the war kakashi was able to use kamui with such efficiency that he was able to send a whole ass shadow clone so fast that an ms plus rinnigan user the strongest eye powers in the world couldn't perceive it so yeah gojo can't escape that and even if you think kamui wouldn't land on gojo because of infinity he will simply distort the space around him like how sukuna did

[@yunan9610]

I think dms Kakashi would easily win, simply cause susanoo is just broken as both defense and offensive skill. The thing with Gojo's "teleportation" Is that he doesn't actually teleport, he basically uses the power of attraction between him and the target location, so he still travels physically within the space, so if Gojo were to be caught by susanoo he couldn't just teleport away. And Susanoo could most likely tank Hollow purple so on a battle of attrition kakashi would win. A non susanoo kakashi however, Gojo definitely has a chance cause Kakashi can still be hit with decently powerful strikes. I think Gojo's blue powered punch should be pretty powerful even for Naruto's standard. Not as powerful as Tsunade's and Sakura's physical hits but maybe can be as strong as Naruto's sage mode frog kumite

[@Joshuak2k4]

Kakashi has no trouble hitting fast things with his side of kamui for example sasuke susanoo arrows also Infinite void is a big one but not only that but kamui (specifically obiots side) is on passively as well and even if he does hit him with it and slaps him with hollow purple he has sage of six paths power which let’s you touch and interact with truth seeking orbs which is a high level of erasure so even hitting him with it wouldn’t kill him with his higher durability

[@Joshuak2k4]

I’d also like to point out he does indeed have obitos side and his side also just warps whatever is in front of him doesn’t necessarily travel as well and with his higher speed advantage it wouldn’t be too hard to pull this off I think it’s a tad unfair to do this battle tho a better one would just be war arc kakashi

[@anonymousperson2816]

Wouldn’t domain expansion not affect kakashi since kakashi has no CT like how domains don’t work on Toji? (I don’t know if I remember this correctly lol)

[@Brynoffiepie008]

Well its not that you dont have a cursed technique to be effected it no cursed energy cause as you saw in the train station the regular civilians were still affected by gojo’s 0.2 domain since they have a sliver of CE to spare

[@anonymousperson2816]

@@Brynoffiepie008 ah yeah and now I remember maki was still affected by naoya's domain

[@Brynoffiepie008]

@@anonymousperson2816 nah she actually wasnt, that was the point that gege revealed that they aren’t affected my domain sure hit effects. She pulled a Toji on Naoya and stabbed him straight through the back on some demon timing all the while not even being sensed by him because domains treat people with no cursed energy like buildings so the user cant sense the heavenly restriction person

[@anonymousperson2816]

@@Brynoffiepie008 oh so toji and maki don't get affected because they literally have 0 CE because of the heavenly restriction but normal people/non-sorcerers still get affected because they have a little bit of CE

[@Brynoffiepie008]

@@anonymousperson2816 precisely

[@malikrobinson9960]

Gojo doesnt literally create an infinate distant but the closer something gets the slower it moves so it would take an infinite amount of time to reach him or in other words never reach him so i think kamui would work if gojo stood still long enough

[@SecondSoulo]

I think that statement from gege is talking about the characters coolness not power.

[@obe1_kenobi]

This really isn't a conversation tbh. Kakashi scales higher and has the means to bypass infinity (Kamui or genjutsu). Therefore he wins low-mid diff. However, one UV from Gojo and he would probably win.

[@TrippieMint]

I don’t think Genjutsu would work at all Genjutsu needs chakra to enter the body for it to work and if Gojo can filter out cursed energy which is just an abstraction then he should be able to filter out chakra And the six eyes would just render him immune to most mind affecting abilities Wether or not Kamui bypasses infinity is its own separate debate though

[@obe1_kenobi]

@@TrippieMint Six eyes has never shown immunity to illusionary or mind affecting attacks. You're also assuming that Gojo can just filter chakra via limitless when he never experienced it before, which would bare minimum allow genjutsu to work a few times first.

[@TrippieMint]

@@obe1_kenobi When gojo fights Hanami she uses a technique that saps your willpower to fight and he breaks himself out of it And the six eyes extra sensory abilities (atomic level perception)/sixth sense would make affecting his mind more difficult especially since he keeps his brain refreshed using rct at all times He wouldn’t have to experience it either Cause he identifies invisible thing or things that are not traditionally dangerous that he wasn’t expecting or never experienced Gojo never experienced Sukunas dismantle/Cleave before (an imperceivable slashing attack which only Mahoraga was ever stated to see) yet infinity blocked it He blocked sound from Jogos beetles when he didn’t know it was coming He blocked gasses etc Infinity would detect a foreign substance and just block it out like it has with these other things

[@obe1_kenobi]

@@TrippieMint That's pretty sound logic. Though the fact that Hanami's attack affected Gojo at all means it bypassed Limitless, same with the sound that came from Jogo's fire insects (he didn't block it, otherwise he wouldn't know sound was involved in the first place). The same would likely happen with genjutsu. I don't think you can attribute Gojo breaking out of the technique to the Six Eyes, at least not entirely, it's possible Hanami simply released the technique, or that the gap in strength between Gojo and Hanami was so big that it simply wasn't as effective. We've seen that being the case when Nanami attacked Dagon w/ Ratio. And the fact that his blindfold was on, meaning Gojo was actively suppressing the Six Eyes. Whether you agree with that or not, Six Eyes definitely doesn't make you immune to illusionary abilities and since Kakashi isn't a top tier genjutsu user, he'd only be using it for minor illusions to cause Gojo to make fatal errors. I do agree that it'd be less effective due to RCT, but still definitely possible.

[@pedro_hmg]

You forgot that kakashi, during the pain invasion, was able to kamui a tiny nail at high speed… dms kakashi could be much faster

[@hayyan958]

What about if kakashi uses a genjutsu?

[@nyelvoid4470]

im pretty sure gojo decides what is and isnt effected by his infinity. he chooses for things like light and air to pass through. i believe at first kakashi would be able to see and use his attacks on gojo but the moment gojo realises his attacks are vision based, he gould just block out all light entirely. also if it really was that light was effected by infinity, you simply wouldnt be able to see gojo at all since it would take the light reflected off of gojo an infinite amount of time to reach the eyes of anyone wanting to percieve him. this suggests that in most scenarios light and thefeore peoples ability to percieve him isnt being affected by infinity. as such kakashi would be able to see and target him normally. also kakashi probably could use kamui on the sun. but remember that kamui can only effect a certain area of space. he probably could target the sun but remember than the sub being so much bigger than the earth even would mean that the damage he'd do to the sun would be so negligible. if kakashi cant kamui the entire earth then he aint doing shit to the sun even if it was right next to him. i dont think the actual distance is the thing that matters here.

[@skypirate2181]

I'm pretty sure hidden inventory gave us the rules on infinite for it to be automatic. That being it detects the curse energy, velocity, and mass to determine its threat level. Kamui could likely bypass.

[@Arjun-kz1ji]

head cannon

[@radzimag6012]

Kamui displaces anything it touches. That being said it can bypass infinity if it was instantaneous but it isn't, so Gojo can definitely dodge it. I think kamui becomes a problem if Gojo is caught off guard but then again the six eyes perceive basically everything all times so Kakashi would have to sneak him. Otherwise Gojo takes the win, he has too many hacks going for him. And I don't think he would need hollow purple because he could just use blue and keep a distance in the entire fight so he can keep dodging the kamui. Another thing is that gojo can heal so how long does it take Kakashi to figure out to go for the brain before Gojo kills him because he has no defence against Gojo's attacks and if the first kamui doesn't end it I doubt much more can land effectively, key word being "effectively" before the six eyes are acclimated. Plus if it drags out Kakashi will run out of Chakra. One domain expansion and it's gg

[@fantasywarfare314]

Infinite void might not fully affect sharingan users, sharingan isn’t your regular eyes… we saw madara move and react super fast because of it

[@Davejade]

yeaaa no infinite void has sure-hit it's arguably one of the most lethal weapons because it's the ultimate info dump and with conjunction of the limitless gojo could could stay within the domain until the one trying to beat him get brain failure through information overload HOWEVER if he gets touched the infodump stops

[@user-yb5xo3fr9m]

The uchiha genjutsu that puts your enemy in a time loop would just end the battle once Gojo blabs about infinity. Even if Kakashi doesn't use that then I figure kamui shrunken be like would be like sukuna's world cutting slash that cuts the whole plane regardless of if the infinity is there since its also dimensionless, plus Kakashi still has sealing jutsus that Gojo apparently is susceptible to in his own verse (reaper death seal would drag dojos soul, not his body, though that would be the most drastic option). DMS Kakashi would phase through hollow purple with the short-range eye and I assume he could still use susano'o inside of a domain and that would play the role of hollow wicker basket, or even just kamui out of it.

[@jspsand7085]

Such stupid assumptions, if we want to act like Chakra and curse energy can Interact then most of what you said isn't possible.

[@Astraision]

​@@jspsand7085 Kamui is shown to exist in its own separate dimension so it functioning similar to the d slash is not a stretch. Assuming there is a brief period of time before limitless brain dumps ((an assumption I'm making based of Jogo's reaction to limitless where he processed the fact that he was being brain dumped before being vegetabled. As well as the scene in the shibuya where Gojo said he activated his domain briefly as to not damage the humans too badly as well as the time it takes for the veil to be cast) Kakashi being the seasoned veteran he is would have the reaction speed to try and defend with a multitude of techniques, transporting himself to hit pocket dimension. Using substitution to relocate himself ect, he is capable of using shadow clones as well so he could use that. His sealing techniques also apply especially the reaper death seal which attacks the soul an attack that even Gojo himself can't defend against. And kakashi doesn't even have to use it to fully kill gojo he can limit the use of Gojo's body like taking away his arms and attacks from the soul even if the physical damage is healed the soul is still damaged so if kakashi sealed his hands then even if he used rct to heal his hands physically he'd still not be able to use them because of the soul damage and this is further backed by in series evidence that being Toji. Now depending on the circumstances Kakashi may or may not have to resort to that. But kamui literally negs Gojo like 9/10 and genjutsu makes this a 10-0 matchup as Gojo has no defense to something that attacks his brain directly. As stated many times in the series the way to take out a sorcerer with RCT is to attack their brain ((but oh Gojo refreshes his brain constantly without thought. So he would refresh his brain and the genjutsu would wear off.)) This is where the brain attacking nature of genjutsu works. If and for the sake of this argument we are but if we equate chakra the life energy of Naruto to Cursed energy the life energy of JJK then genjutsu would work on Gojo because genjutsu takes over the victims own chakra and uses it to fool their nervous system into experiencing things that haven't happened. Examples being when Itachi offed his love interest his genjutsu tricked her brain into dying of old age by making her think she lived her life out. Itachi also used his genjutsu to torture kakashi for ten days. And for genjutsu to work you just need to look into the eyes of the target and depending on the type of genjutsu used the victim could be put in a false reality where they believe they are fighting as usual but are actually just standing defenseless and Gojo has literally no defense from his own brain attacking him. in short Kakashi negs.

[@jspsand7085]

@@Astraision he can defend himself to a soul attack, nanami was able to tank an attack of idle transfiguration from mahito on their first encounter, it's not a stretch to say that gojo can defend himself from attacks to the soul, and as for genjutsu, if we say that the powers interact then gojo has such a high level of control on his curse energy that he would disrupt the illusion by a sudden and strong release of energy, since that has been stated to be a defense against those jutsus.

[@Astraision]

@jspsand7085 That isn't entirely true because 1. Nanaimo defended against Mahito by pure luck pretty sure he stated this himself somewhere I can go searching for it if you want further proof. But this is also debunked by the further meetings between Nanami and Mahito because Nanami literally thought he was going to die inside of Mahito's domain and all that did was make it so the restriction of Mahito's CT was gone. If he could sure fire defend against the attack then he would sure have not thought he was about to die. If you're not caught up on the manga there is more proof but IYKYK. As for genjutsu there are no CT in JJK that function on any level close to any genjutsu at all so Gojo would not just know how to break genjutsu. But even if he did to do genjutsu dissipation you have to 1. Know you are in a Genjutsu with Kakashi's mastery of Genjutsu and due to the nature of the technique and Gojo's lack of knowledge of the technique by the time he realizes he's in a universe trapped in his mind he's dead. 2. You need to stop all flow of chakra completely which in Gojo's case would mean all cursed energy. Which means he would need to deactivate all CT. And then he could surge his energy as step 3. But by that point he's been exposed for so long Kakashi has finished cutting him to ribbons, blowing him up, encasing him in the earth itself, sending his limbs to the shadow realm so on and so forth. Remember Gojo's defense is based off the fact that things can't reach him and when they do reach him if the blow isn't fatal he can heal but most of Kakashi's moves are lethal due to his occupation. Knowing his nature (Kakashi) he would likely evaluate the situation and start by throwing basic attacks at Gojo. Once he sees that doesn't work he would probably try genjutsu and once he sees that's effective at disrupting Gojo he would probably chidori him through the chest with enough force to fry Gojo while evicerating anything that is in direct contact with the lighting attack leaving a hole larger than anything Gojo has been shown recovering from. (Taking the fight between Gojo and Sukuna in the later chapters as a basis trying to avoid spoilers.) where Gojo's chest used to be. Even if this doesn't kill Gojo which it most likely would it would do enough damage to incapacitate him long enough for the win to be given to Kakashi.

[@jspsand7085]

@@Astraision reading about the six eyes, I would equate it to a variation of byakugan, and if we also give it the ability to see trough Kakashi Chakra then he would understand the iner workings of his jutsus, preparing him for what's to come in the fight, as for the nanami situation he can defend against a single atack to his soul, but inside mahitos domain he would simply be overwhelmed, my thoughts are that with gojos higher tier of control he would infact be able to fight against soul attacks like itadori does.

[@obinnaodoemenam8762]

Am i tweaking or did sukuna stick out his fucking hands to block hollow purple? Even if his arms got erased why didn't it hit his whole body? Hollow purple not doing shit to a susanoo and then theres kakashi using intangiblity himself this one sided

[@TrippieMint]

Sukuna blocked hollow a 288% hollow purple and only lost two reinforced arms but that’s because his reinforcement was high You would kind of need proof that susanoo could tank a matter erasing attack with planetary ap

[@danfoxdude]

@@TrippieMintWHERE DID YOU GET PLANETARY AP? 💀

[@TrippieMint]

@@danfoxdude Calcs that get it to around those ranges such as: docs.google.com/document/d/1OWiYts9P1Hh6sbLWmhoP0m1tcok7lwj9Qb3VVIx8nkk/edit?usp=sharing and implications with Yukis black hole

[@zizu-lakaka]

lol @@TrippieMint

[@animetalk8425]

can amaterasu hit gojo since it does not travel it just appears?

[@hadialkhalifa5688]

Btw you guys forgot kamui lighting blade and gejutsu ☝️

[@Yourghostuncle]

I think Gojo's infinity is simulated/virtual its not an actual infinity. Like a barrier that patches space in front of space as an object travels.

[@drewboggie1]

It is true Kamui can’t be blocked but that doesn’t mean you can’t avoid it and if you avoid it fast enough you won’t be harmed and that takes a lot of chakra so if kakashi has to keep trying I’ll end up passing out for example in the Naruto x Boruto storm connections kamui is so strong cuz you can’t block it you have to avoid so I’m going Gojo for the win

[@jtdolano4785]

didnt kakashi kamui a truth seeking orb which are like stupid fast. Also dms kakashi spams kamui so he wont pass out from it, gojo probably gets one shot

[@drewboggie1]

@@jtdolano4785 yea when I wrote that I forgot about dms kakashi he can spam kamui but I still don’t think he can’t touch Gojo you have to remember kakashi is still using chakra which will eventually run out and Gojo keeps limitless on all the time just listen to what manganimst said in the video from 6:30 to 8:35 from that explains why I believe Gojo would win just my opinion

[@greentube1357]

​​@@drewboggie1kumai can work on gojo since kumai dotn have travel speed so how it would slow down lol gg

[@drewboggie1]

@@greentube1357 listen to what he says in the video from 6:30 to 8:35 that’s all the information you need to know why I believe in what I said but it’s all hypothetical at the end of the day believe in what sounds good to you and gg to you guy ✌🏼

[@greentube1357]

@@drewboggie1so u are dependent on him he is not a power scaler he did blunder up there he is comparing celestial body with gojo who is an object .. gojos infinity creates an infinite space between him and his opponent though it's more accurate to say it divides space infinitely. This causes attacks to slow down and lose momentum cuz the distance they're traveling is continously increasing. And it's automatic BUT Kamui DON'T NEED TO TRAVEL (Think IT as a black HOLE WHO APPEAR SUDDENLY AND OBSORB GOJO ) so it would directly hit him..

[@furiousdestroyah9999]

If Sukuna's space cleave can hit Gojo through infinity then I don't see why Kamui couldn't do the same. Kamui targets actual space and not a specific target so it's already a space cleave at base...

[@Nik_Makima69]

I think kamui can bypass the infinity, it is dojutsu not anything that travels to physically hit gojo, infinity can't make infinite distance to make the enemy not see gojo, kamui prowess is sense and that is sight, it's not anything that touch anything

[@georgehovsepyan6094]

Why do people forget that the second kamui eye can make you literally untouchable? Remember Tobi?

[@edgbarra]

Would that defend him in an Infinite void? The attack is not physical but mental.

[@georgehovsepyan6094]

@@edgbarra He can teleport into his own pocket dimension to avoid the domain expansion

[@zizu-lakaka]

@@edgbarraBro said mental 🤣

[@SRVaris]

@@edgbarra The Sure Hit would have nothing to target in effect Kakashi would be treated as a Heavenly Restriction but even that's a bad example its just he wouldn't be there to be hit by anything.

[@skullknight4579]

Do you think professor X could survive infinite void?

[@JoeyXcv]

this is ridiculous cos we literally saw sukuna delete Gojo's space with his world slash but apparently it's a question if kakashi can end gojo with kamui, can we be serious here lol

[@GodsgiftIgbani]

We forget Lakisha has ocular prowess, what will Gojo do about Infinite Tsukuyomi?

[@itsmethelightbringer2144]

I dunno. I think even if kamui could hit, it's gonna have to be a headsgot otherwise gojo rct and then ifninite void is coming out.

[@Arjun-kz1ji]

U r wrong on 2 things: 1) thats not how infinity works, it doesnt create infinite distance but divides space infinitely , Big difference and it only divides space infinitely for those objects with mass and energy it deems as threat. No excuses for power scaling needed, a 1 min google search should have answered that which u didnt before making a 10 min video on it . 2) infinite void doesnt drop infinite information immediately, it drops 7 months of info in 0.2 secs and we know MS users can process 100 years of info in a milli second because itachi simulated 100 years for izumi in 0.1 seconds ( this one is niche so i dont blame him for not knowing that). 3) Kakashi kamui faster then minato in war arc which puts his attack atleast ftl on low ball, no amount of wanking can make gojo dodge that besides it is like a blackhole similar to obito where only teleportation is the answer and the diedara one was because it was his first time using it hence incomplete, he himself state that in the ep, after a few eps, he was able to kamui n explosion itself while a back ago, he was struggling to do so with a moving target. its very clear the speed becomes faster to an ftl level which again should have been obvious with a 1 min google search. Well u r not a power scaler so it doesnt matter since i dont believe i will be recommended this channel again by youtube, just got pissed by the low effort content. Anyway, u r a cool guy i am not here to hate. Peace/

[@Sodamuhchine]

you're thinking of infinity as a multiplier for distance and if that were the case i can totally see where you're coming from but Gojo's infinity divides the distance which you have to cover and keeps dividing it infinitely to the point that you never reach him. At the end of the day, lets just say gojo was 10m from kakashi, 10m is still 10m and it wouldn't be the equivalent of looking at the sun or looking through a telescope, hope that clears it up.

[@sslelgamal5206]

The only match up fights I'm confident with the result is the Saitama the one punch man vs something 😅😅

[@adampiette60]

We talked about if Kakashi could kill gojo, but can Gojo really do anything to kakashi? Funny enough the scaling is in Kakashi's favor, but Gojo has the stamina lead with rct, Chakra is known to run out. If Kamui doesn't work and Kakashi can't kill Gojo, would Gojo just outlast Kakashi until he collapsed? Initially I went in to this thinking Kakashi clears, but not so sure

[@Sanic-lt5hs]

Tbf a UV into Purple could be bad for Kakashi if Gojo can get past the Susano. Though in this match, like u said Gojo's best bet is to try and run Kakashi out of chakra rather than engaging with red or blue

[@adampiette60]

@@Sanic-lt5hs now that I think about it, infinite void would probably render kakashi into a vegetable like tsukiyomi did

[@Sanic-lt5hs]

@@adampiette60 Probably

[@theasiangod5860]

DMS kakashi wins. He has access to both kamui's, and if he phases, he no longer exists within the world we live in, instead he lives in the kamui world rendering infinite void useless. Kakashi is much older than gojo with much more combat experience with people as strong if not stronger than he is, so kakashi would be able to plan out a way to beat gojo. Not to mention Red and blue can be countered with kamui as well. Kakashi also wins if he brings gojo into the Kamui realm and leaves gojo there to die.

[@Malthizar]

Honestly it's not a question. Not only is Kakashi stronger and faster, but he's also smarter with several techniques that are proven to bypass Infinity. If we're being honest and not low-balling Kakashi he takes Gojo down faster than Sukuna did.

[@infinity2394]

Kamui His head off, we've already seen what dimensional attacks do to gojo 💀

[@wolf512full]

Unlimited Void could work but Kakashi can dodge it by escaping to the kamui dimension. Would he had the time to do it? Ofc he's much faster than Gojo. Would he choose to do it? This is the real question.

[@PiggTheKidd]

Even if kakashi cant snipe him he can just kamui lightning blade him and thats it for gojo also if yuji and todo can react to mahitos .2 domain kakashi can easily react to gojos and kakashi usually opens up with clones so if gojo spends his domain on kakashis clone hes just kinda done also theres too many ways for kakashi to win and too many for Gojo to lose kakashi takes it 10/10 times

[@RahulSharma-ot3wo]

If gojo opens his domain its over