Goku VS Superman | The REAL outcome.

[@SpiffyEaterOfWorlds]

We love your content man, keep up the good work and continue to grow, its a shame your this small rn.

[@marksito1454]

ok, lets get serious: Goku but all the things the gokutards say are canon vs Superman base+nerfed+10tons of kryptonite inside his brain+all batman's contingency plans activated+5secs of life spoiler: Superman wins

[@Chillythesilly]

@@marksito1454 made me laugh this. Still absolutely true

[@metalmario1231]

Well no at that point you be capping...lets say goku could wear 10 ton clothing with kryptonite in it....which he could that alone would level the field...and batmans plans are put in place specifically to stop superman....they arent just gonna fail...we see an older batman use some of these tactics to actually beat supes down and you would tell me that ssj blue goku doing everything batman did plus his own power fails when kryptonite alone is enough to weaken supes?....total copium....then again so is this whole debate...death battle pretty much settled this 3 times...we know goku isnt going to do any of this because he wants to fight superman at his strongest.. .sadly that does result in goku losing

[@Chillythesilly]

@@metalmario1231 Yea goku just loses to matter what he does

[@michaelwarren875]

Superman gets stomped

[@michaelwarren875]

​@@ChillythesillyGoku shitstomps

[@rotemegozi1044]

Hulk vs doomsday pls???

[@spiritualkiller14]

@@rotemegozi1044 dosent matter. Krillin victims💀

[@rotemegozi1044]

@@spiritualkiller14Rage baiting me? Well I have to tell you if you wanna rage bait me You're gonna have to do better then that.

[@DarkTemple34]

5:15 that's not a canon guide book that's the RPG guidebook that is talking about the game not the anime or manga and toriyama, or any db staff had nothing to do with the making of it

[@redhood2574]

Nooooooooo😭 you forgot the world forger feat

[@Chillythesilly]

@@redhood2574 trust me it isn’t needed 🙏😭

[@redhood2574]

@@Chillythesillytrue

[@Son_Dragneel]

The feat that is taken widely out of context.

[@Chillythesilly]

@@Son_Dragneel No it isn’t lol. And the context makes it better to scale 😭🙏

[@cjcj4861]

​@@Chillythesillydude as much as I don't like Goku I hate to say this to you you are biased as hell when it comes to techniques in martial arts Goku takes this fight 7 out of 10 in a real Deathmatch Superman would win in an actual combat standpoint Goku would take it of course you're going to have Superman win cuz you're bias fan boy great you just admit it

[@black_desantos]

Susano Ultra Instinct Goku can use energy blast that can destroy entire galaxies which Superman can't. Superman has more physical defense but don't think he can withstand the energy blast that strong.

[@Chillythesilly]

@@black_desantos He has and can multiple times. Galaxy level is fodder to superman

[@rotemegozi1044]

Nice video and analysis. but this debate has been done to death to the point I don't care about this debate anyway.

[@josiahwilliams9849]

Superman stomps everytime

[@isaacbell5156]

Man forgot about the deadzone, super dimensional place that broly and gogeta fought, neutral zone, subspaces and etc. but good video.

[@Chillythesilly]

@@isaacbell5156 My bad lol but still won’t help goku

[@isaacbell5156]

@@Chillythesilly I can argue outerversal for goku but i'm mixed with it tbh lol. Outerversal scaling for goku or not he still ain't beating superman consistent high outerversal scaling. But other versions of Goku like Xeno goku , CC Goku, Xenoverse goku and etc can give superman a run for his money But I have superman beating them with High diff or extreme diff.

[@Chillythesilly]

@@isaacbell5156 Goku Disney have any high outer scaling that’s consistent

[@JadoBouhzam]

​@isaacbell5156 his scaling is wack he is litrally ignoring arale and saying goku is lowcomplex he has no counter to the arale meta also the superdimensional realms that gogeta and broly destroyed and the subspace and the dead zone and the afterlife being stated to be transcend dimensions as in plural and it being not physical and non temporal comfirmed by goku in the buu saga when he was kaishin realm proving and add more evidence that the afterlife is outer and kaishin realm is beyond that as the gods and kais in that realms look down upon the realms below meaning it exists in higher plane of existence beyond the afterlife which is beyond living world also hate on dripsauce all u want he proved that canon goku and cc goku are the same one evidence dbz kakarot which is written by toriyama and approved by him guess who shows up mira which u face

[@Chillythesilly]

@@JadoBouhzam Ohhhh so your a dripsauce gooner 😭🙏 Gg you’ve lost

[@omnimaw-cc]

Goku still is at MFTL+/multiversal but he kinda needs the high ball. I cant "debunk" Superman's so W vid

[@rotemegozi1044]

What do you mean goku needs High ball.

[@Cosmic-Hell]

Great video.

[@nuclearwaste2062]

Honestly speaking, for a quick recap of a battle its not too bad. You obviously skip over a ton of details for both characters and just run off of assumptions (which you admit to) and just rush the analysts. But im going to assume this is a recap and summary rather than a full on explanation of the combatants. As for the scaling, personally i rarely use outerversal at all, for anybody in fiction. I think that gets overused and everybody's favorite character seems to be outerversal nowadays to the point it has lost its meaning. 😂 so obviously im not going to agree with the superman scaling or anybody at outerversal. If you are getting hurt and hit by bullets, lasers, and beings well below your tier of speed, you arent outerversal. 😂 That being said i actually agree with the goku scale, you just dont bother explaining it or how you even got there. You just kind of assume hes 5D or 6D. 🤷‍♂️ despite claiming the cosmolgy was vaguly 4D. Obviously i use a different arguments to get goku to the same scale. And yes if you have superman at high outerversal then quite frankly it doesnt matter where goku scales if he doesnt scale to outerversal. He loses anyway. But its still important to explain how and why you scale a character. And if the matchup is so one sided like 5D vs high outerversal that its not worth even bothering making a video, then choose different opponents. Choose opponents that scale in the same tier in order to have interesting fights. If you believe superman outscales all of dragonball, then put him against marvel. If you beleive goku outscales all of dc then put him against medaka box. 😂 Its like having a champion MMA fighter fighting against a toddler. And thinking you put on some masterpiece of a battle.😂 _____ I get that people love superman and goku. They get wanked to heaven and back and just saying goku or superman guarantees 10,000 subs😂. But can they fight someone else? Anybody else? I mean if you have superman at high outer and since half of the justice league and half of the dc villains have either beaten or killed superman, they would have to be high outer to, so maybe try a marvel character? Or an anime character that also scales to outerversal? For goku there are other anime characters in that low complex ranges of power. DC would be hard to match up if you have superman at high outer, cause so many people scale to him in DC.😂 so maybe marvel again? I know they get wanked to outerversal to, but maybe like jane foster thor? She doesnt have that many feats and she certainly doesnt scale to thor at full power.😂 she hulk? Not as powerful as the hulk, so she shouldnt get that scaling. Iron man and some of his mid tier suits? Hulk buster? _____ Point is its sometimes easier to just find different opponents rather than match what you percieve to be mismatches. I mean the entire point of a tier system is to put characters against each other in the same tier. Not a baby vs the entire USA military. 😂

[@Chillythesilly]

@@nuclearwaste2062 Congratulations. You haven’t looked at any other video of mine. I only rushed through goku’s part because there was nothing else to talk about. I’m sorry that superman logically scales to high outer and dogs on the entire dragon ball verse but if you’d like to stay around I’m working on a Goku VS Sonic AND a Superman VS Optimus Prime video. And I only gave my people a pole and they chose. Every VS Scaling video I make is to be voted by the people who watch my videos. If you’d like to give me more interesting ideas go ahead I’d love to see.

[@blackgamerblackia8945]

This means base superman is stronger than cosmic armour superman

[@spiritualkiller14]

@@blackgamerblackia8945 bruh that dosent even make sense. 😂bruh what?! He liked yo comment too.💀you see this is why my first video will be debunking this guy right here for his fodder video. And then im just gonna debunk the entire marvel and Dc fanbase. All yall getting hakai from existence by me. Stay tuned, my video dropping this week. I’m bringing the heat on yall.😈🐉

[@cheesefinder111]

Superman stomps this isn't even close. Goku didn't absorb god ki after battle of gods since he lost all of that power and had to catch back up, that's proven in the manga by how he struggles against Trunks who is just a normal super saiyan 2, and how in the anime he struggles against anyone who doesn't have god ki. He struggles against Krillin, he struggled against Frieza, he struggled against Kale and Caulifla, etc. Beerus is also still stronger than everyone after this happened, which makes no sense considering it was stated that in battle of gods if Beerus was a 10 Goku would be a 6, and Beerus used about 70% of his power, he used 10% of his power against Vegeta who was just a super saiyan 2 which again is consistent with the Trunks fight in the manga. If he absorbed the god ki into his base form he wouldn't be struggling with basic level things like this, he'd be destroying the universe with his punches(which is what is stated about Beerus and Champa fighting, yet the others can fight and nothing happens.) Actually the series itself debunks him from absorbing god ki into his base since super saiyan blue is super saiyan mixed with god ki, but apparently Dragon Ball Super fans can't read. If Goku absorbed god ki into his base he wouldn't have normal super saiyan anymore because every time he would turn into a super saiyan he would be turning blue, the god ki is something he has to actively use to boost his power like a multiplier which is called "beyond god," which is using a small amount of god ki without fully tapping into it. Super saiyan god is the form accessed by tapping into god ki while in base, and super saiyan blue is the form accessed by tapping into god ki while being a super saiyan, it's not in his base form power. Not to mention if Goku had the same power level as his god form in battle of gods, Beerus would still be a 10 and Goku would be a 300 while just using basic super saiyan, and that's lowballing. So if Goku really did this he would beat the breaks off of Beerus in ssj1 but that clearly isn't how strong he is in base. I also don't believe that Goku or Beerus scale to their macrocosm shaking punches, as it's not only stated that the shockwaves outscale the further they travel, it's also stated Goku and Beerus would both die in the destruction if they continued to fight. The only thing stated about Goku absorbing the god ki into his base was Beerus just saying "your body learned from it and you got stronger," nothing about his base form becoming equally as strong as his god form, that was never even stated.

[@user-se7cb4ki8b]

I literally have no idea what any of that means.

[@cheesefinder111]

@@user-se7cb4ki8b Laymans Terms: Goku is below tier 3-A at the start of Super, later possibly becomes tier 3-A with multipliers but is debatable considering Whis says Moro self destructing is galaxy level, and we all know a self destruction is a release of all your ki which means maximum destruction. Superman is universal+ to multiversal far more consistently, with outerversal metas that scale him beyond a majority of anime. Superman is a very broken character and comparing him to Goku is really dumb, especially considering their characters are completely different, Goku isn't similar to Superman in any way shape or form. Goku can't even breathe in space, all Superman needs to do to win is yoink Goku by the scruff and fling him into space light years away, and if you think he can use instant transmission that wouldn't work either considering Superman is way too fast for Goku, or could just BFR him.

[@Chillythesilly]

@@cheesefinder111 Okay that’s a little wild lol

[@mre2179]

The goku is a 7 and bearus a 10 is only for the movie versión

[@cheesefinder111]

@@mre2179 You must have a degree in trustmebro-ology. It definitely makes more sense that Goku didn't get weaker and everyone else around him got absurdly stronger to match and surpass him right? I do use actual numbers in my scaling for multipliers and I can guarantee you if super saiyan blue was 50x stronger than super saiyan god like people say, he'd be destroying Beerus. Even if you wanted to highball Beerus immensely and say he was only using 1% of his power against Goku during their battle, Goku would STILL destroy him as a super saiyan blue if those multipliers were canon. This is the math that would be used if Goku actually absorbed super saiyan god into his base. God Goku = 1% Beerus Post Battle of Gods Goku absorbs god ki into base (base Goku = 1% Beerus) Goku transforms into a super saiyan (50x base = 50% Beerus) Goku transforms into super saiyan 2 (100x base = 100% Beerus) Goku transforms into super saiyan 3 (400x base = 4 times stronger than 100% Beerus) Goku transforms into super saiyan god stacked on his base form(ssj god has an unknown multiplier, but we will say it's only 800x base so 2x stronger than super saiyan 3 which is a MASSIVE lowball = 8 times stronger than 100% Beerus) Goku transforms into super saiyan blue(fan headcanon is that blue is 50x god = 40,000x base. This would make Goku hundreds of times stronger than 100% Beerus, yet somehow Beerus is still stronger than them both??? Plot induced stupidity or just fans removing context for the sake of making Goku as illogically strong as possible? We all know the answer. And don't come at me with that "Beerus trains" headcanon because that is unprovable and we never see Beerus train once, if anything Beerus is unrealistically lazy and sleeps for literal decades, he's terrified of losing his job as a destroyer because he doesn't do anything.

[@sterlingjones8834]

But not using composite goku is a little disingenuous because current super man is basically composite Superman

[@Chillythesilly]

@@sterlingjones8834 It won’t chance the outcome

[@metalsonic4.1therobothedge24]

​@@Chillythesilly it will Superman was amped to fight the anti monitor Tbh i could use many arguments but watch the DC cosmology debunk

[@Chillythesilly]

@@metalsonic4.1therobothedge24 Tell me who which debunk: And if it’s drip sauces you automatically lose.

[@metalsonic4.1therobothedge24]

@@Chillythesilly drip sauce wasnt debunked, so if i use him i automatically win

[@Chillythesilly]

@@metalsonic4.1therobothedge24 Yes he was. Multiple times. You can debunk him by showing that there and infinite dimensions within DC. WHICH I QUOTE: “Since these infinite dimension scans. Do not exist.”

[@Madness_78]

I don't know what the hell Grandpa Gohan and The Kents have been feeding Goku and Clark but they is too damn strong!

[@spiritualkiller14]

@@Madness_78 neither one of them are the strongest in their verses though. The angels can literally flick Goku. 😂

[@timtoons_]

W

[@pasty188]

Goku vs. Superman, where you called it overkill. Remember that Goku took attacks capable of erasing infinite history, and he has unimaginable speed, allowing him to fight Fu. He fought against Fu, who had the charisma of a world view and even bit world fiction. And if you say this is non-canon and try to use a different version of Goku, remember that it’s still the same Goku people refer to as CC Goku. The idea of CC Goku is just fan-made-he’s still just Goku. This means he has the same abilities as Xeno Goku. Goku was able to defeat Fu.”

[@Chillythesilly]

@@pasty188 You can composite goku and he still won’t beat superman. There is NOTHING in all of dragon ball that helps goku

[@pasty188]

@@Chillythesilly remember that Demigra was going to destroy everything including bit world he lost base xeno goku

[@pasty188]

@@Chillythesilly remember Toki Toki's Role: Toki Toki is described as a being above all dimensions, both spatial and temporal, and is crucial for maintaining infinite creation. The fact that Demigra absorbed Toki Toki's power and was still defeated by Goku further emphasizes Goku's superior strengt

[@Chillythesilly]

@@pasty188 Yes and it’s not that high scaling else

[@Chillythesilly]

@@pasty188 if you can find the statement where it says anything that high I’d like to have or lol

[@Articsea416]

Goku one-shots sups

[@Chillythesilly]

@@Articsea416 nah

[@JoseFigueroa-iz2on]

Unless Goku packs kryptonite, it's an easy win for Superman. Even of Goku goes Super Saiyan 4, Superman will still win, albeit with a little difficulty.

[@JadoBouhzam]

Yeah definitely don't agree even without other world the subspace is a realm that exists in universe u that is devoid of the concepts of space and time and the otherworld is litrally stated to be metaphysical and non temporal by goku in the manga and that time as a concept doesn't exist in the otherworld making it outer and add the arale meta on top of that would make goku high outer as arale is canon to dragon ball and goku was relative to her during there crossover the same arale who cut her own page and was holding said manga page in the page which that manga page shows her holding also said manga page aswell lol implying an infinite transcendence loop so even without outer meta that's a high hyperversal level it's funny how u agree with superman outer metas but don't agree with gokus the bias is real also ur reason for goku not being outer is stupix the kais litrally stated that goku was allowed to keep his body in the otherworld and the otherworld has exceptions such as dying andbbeing diety as they litrally come from there so no goku isnt outerversal in the saiyan but he is during the battle of gods as he was threatening to destroy the entire macrocosm including the afterlife also a lot of these agruments for outer superman are taking out of context he is at best high hyperversal dripsauce and toasterxd make great arguments for it he is a kratos victim lol 😅😅😅

[@Chillythesilly]

@@JadoBouhzam Time exists in other world. The literal series itself goes against everything you just said. LOL ABSOLUTELY NO dragon ball characters touch hyper and there is no arguments for it. I’m sorry that dripsauce has infected your head with these wank arguments but I’m sorry. Goku is low complex multi, and Kratos gets mid diffed by superman. I’m sorry you can’t make your own opinions and don’t do your own research.

[@JadoBouhzam]

@@Chillythesilly bro arale is hyperversal and goku scales to her also time doesn't exist in otherworld as goku says ssj3 drains stamina in the living world due to time existing whereas in otherworld he could use ssj3 indefinitely that's why when he used ssj3 in living world it drained his time on earth comfirmed in the manga bro also dripsauce isn't the only youtuber that believes dragon ball is outer there are multiple guides and statements confirming also dragon ball heroes is canon to main continuity of dragon ball via dragon ball z kakarot as toriyama said it expands on dragon ball z and on a canon side mission mira shows up also the subspace exists in dragon ball which is outer cry about it

[@Chillythesilly]

@@JadoBouhzam No she isn’t lol. And because of that disease dragon ball fans contact because they just want Goku to win. I’m sorry but he’s low complex, and he won’t get much higher.

[@JadoBouhzam]

@Chillythesilly ohhh lol bro is ignoring because he knows she is canon and doesn't admit it lol ur only defence is dragon ball fans are diseases even though this is commen sense i am saying lol arale is canon to dragon ball dummy and she has performed a hyperversal feat if u dont want to admit that u lost the argument also u call us a disease when ur whole channel is dickriding superman saying he solos fiction even though superman has died multiple times in his comic and has been beaten also there are a lot of characters can beat superman lets start sun wukong scp 682 true form pennywise freaking most of love craft monsters

[@JadoBouhzam]

@Chillythesilly bro u lost the argument the moment u said we are disease even though ur biased urself to superman and won't allow ur sweetheart to ever lose a fight even though superman has died and lost multiple times in the comics also arale is canon to dragon ball cry about it she has performed high hyperversal feat and goku was relative to her she has survived being erased from the narrative and beerus hakai was going to litrallu kill her his power was so great he anti gagged her with a tap of his leg and blew her away and goku during the tournament of power surpassed beerus who is stronger than arale putting him above arale

[@clarkkent4565]

Good job bro 👏 👍 next do superboy prime vs Darkseid please 🙏.

[@nickallen2053]

😢 so you just telling me Superman is broken lol Goku over everything

[@Chillythesilly]

@@nickallen2053 Yea superman is broken. And solos all of dragon ball

[@nickallen2053]

@@Chillythesilly I felt like he was just the ultimate cheat America did that for a reason because America want to be the strongest lol but to me I still don't think he's going to be Goku Goku's broken too people got to remember his father made a wish

[@IbnJaae]

W scale. Lol

[@DestusG]

Bro ur video 😂😂😂

[@Chillythesilly]

@@DestusG I know it’s peak and completely a w take

[@user-se7cb4ki8b]

First!

[@Chillythesilly]

@@user-se7cb4ki8b Y’know what. Today! Chillythesilly decrees that the first comment of MY videos gets to choose the next matchup for me to discuss. Since there are the first. Which matchup would YOU YES YOU! Like to choose?

[@user-se7cb4ki8b]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@ChillythesillyOh,Thank you very much!I appreciate that a lot! Well,I think I’d like to choose “Superman vs Galactus”,That would be pretty exciting matchup.

[@Chillythesilly]

@@user-se7cb4ki8b Interesting. I think I’ll save that for later down the line! Plus I don’t wanna go back to back with superman vids! :D

[@user-se7cb4ki8b]

@@ChillythesillyOk then,Good to know. Thanks!👍

[@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505]

​@@Chillythesilly You forgot the Arale scaling Goku from a high complex multiversal to high hypervasl + aka (10D to high 1b) for a low end

[@gokuvegeta1167]

Didn't superman get his ass kicked by Alfred but he wins sure

[@Chillythesilly]

@@gokuvegeta1167 How did Alfred become so strong again?

[@MrJeffreyrichards]

alfred took a pill that gave him supermans strenght and duribility for 24 hrs and he started the fight with a cheep shot also hitting him in a moment of remourse and regret for what he just did he killed robin and broke batmans back. So know context and dont even try to use any point of where a fight is explointing and removing his power as some feat in a vs match. Kyptonite wont be avilble nor will his weakness of red sun knowen or magic all of that is not even a factor.

[@gokuvegeta1167]

Superman also got knocked out by Godzilla fyi

[@MrJeffreyrichards]

@@gokuvegeta1167 that is else worlds not current the time fram for the event is 26 years ago the date he purposed to lois lane. Same thing with the rock and Alfred.

[@Chillythesilly]

@@gokuvegeta1167 A weaker + featless + radon universe + younger superman