Gold Smelting, Is It Worth It? Part 2!!!

[@OpenSpaceWellness]

Thanks for the hard work. 🙏❤️🌲

[@kahnfu-zhin8627]

It’s always worth watching you at work, because you’re always experimenting and trying new stuff. We all get to learn about the intricacies of gold recovery, the most fascinating process in the world.

[@Red9GearHeads]

Jason many of us greatly appreciate everything you do. The rest of these Karen’s would still complain if you ship them the gold directly. We are living in a world full of unhappy people. Please keep it up brother! I’ll always be here appreciating what you do.

[@juanlui284]

Jason is a genius

[@bobhoward6676]

It's all about the fun. All hobbies cost money. At least this has value when finished. I love learning how to do this. Been following for years.

[@MrDazP1adv3ntures]

Thank you Jason, To me You are not what I would class as a " KZbinr" you are a genuinely talented and knowledgeable individual who shares his experiences for us all to enjoy. This is way beyond gold panning but it puts everything in to perspective as it is all part of the process. Thank you buddy 👍

[@richardlincoln8438]

Just commenting to feed the algorithm Jason. Best Wishes to everyone.

[@dakartoffel]

Hi Jason, your rock crushing equipment looks nice and is very professional. I hope you can set up a similarly professional smelter someday. This overflowing cone-mould; furnace heldt together by wire and flimsy tools stuff is a stark contrast to the rock crushing equipment of yours. Greetings from Germany.

[@lotharschiese8559]

You noticed, you are paying attention.

[@chicagovasko]

Jason I appreciate you teaching me this stuff I'm not good in school but with you I learn a lot thanks bro.

[@DavidLittleBird]

Jason, you treat us so right!

[@JesseJames83]

I'd like to see a part 3 where you show us a worth-while smelt; something that makes a nice profit after time and materials.

[@izzyburgos9648]

Hey Jason, Im 20 and I stay in Bellingham, Wa. I love your content and would to like to work with you. I’m open to learning and I would greatly appreciate it to learn some of your great knowledge. Thanks again for the great content!

[@NoahMask]

I've really been enjoying this channel, would love to see a collab w/Cody's Lab!

[@jamesdetrick6035]

Your videos are very very informative and very entertaining. Thank you for all your hard work well I just sit around and watch

[@dewardtaylor4192]

Jason thanks for the great video. Looking forward to you opening your mine this season. Stay safe

[@KevinAxt-om5on]

I'll probably never mine for gold or even hobby prospect but its fun watching the videos. Thanks for putting these together. Like the argyle socks!

[@danje748]

These videos are always interesting to watch, really enjoy them. =)

[@coinjunkyag1626]

Jason! Hey hey buddy love the vids thank you for sharing ✌️

[@boredtexan]

Great video as always! I'm always excited to see new ones pop up.

[@georgetucker2171]

I appreciate that you show us your mistakes as well as your successes -- thanks!!

[@rockman531]

Great videos, Jason! Thank you for taking the time to educate us! Thumbs up - as always!! Be safe! Jim

[@mikehalvorsen4788]

Hey Jason. A while back you mentioned if you could use chemicals to refine your gold. Not really sure, but I think you still have to go threw the process you go threw first before you use chemicals. Love your videos. Thanks. 😎👍🇨🇦

[@davidoconn9352]

Thanks Jason A very interesting video for sure thanks again.

[@CrestoneColorado-yj4we]

I learned, I enjoyed. Thanks Jason

[@markbottcher9623]

Thanks for all your hard work,and mistakes we can learn from. I may not be doing any smelting anytime soon ,but i have learned alot from these vids.

[@GSProspecting]

Great job all around fam. Keep on having fun getting that Au and living the dream. Gold Squad Out 🤠

[@apertureonline9566]

I think I've destroyed gold multiple times, that's what it looks like :( idk why. It's difficult

[@petepal55]

Learning has a great deal of value as it can be used for the rest of your life if you document it well.

[@rikspector]

Jason, I feel the heat:) from here:) Cheers, Rik in Ferndale

[@smokeyandspikeproductions]

If you coat that fire brick with kiln wash your crucible will be less likely to stick prior to pouring.😁👍 Excellent job all around Jason, keep up that great work and good content!

[@josephcormier5974]

This was a very enjoyable and informative video thank you for sharing this six stars brother

[@vicferrari9380]

Keep up the great effort.

[@mickeyfilmer5551]

You have a fabrication shop there- why don't you make yourself a decent sized smelter? There are loads of videos online on how to do it and from what I have seen of your equipment, you have the necessary tools and skills set to fabricate one. Then you could smelt larger volumes and make it cost effective- also buld a larger pyramid pouring jig and some properly forged tools for holding and pouring the melt- the set up you have currently is not safe for pouring - watch some videos online of people smelting and you will see the tools they use- easily made in your shop.

[@lotharschiese8559]

Yes, I have concerns also, there is plenty of info on how to be more functional and safer. Build up over your furnace, a fume hood, much like a blacksmith had with a good size exhaust fan. Metal poisoning, whether it be air or water is not fun and it will creep up on you, it accumulates in our body!

[@TB-zw7dt]

Sounds like it's time to upscale if you have a good supply of rich ore and get your smelting formulations down pat.

[@timothyodonnell8591]

Thanks for the informative video!

[@JCTaylorinAZ]

Jason. Love watching your experience with mining. Instead of using bismuth is there a reason you don’t like to use lead. For the mine samples I smelter. To this day we still use lead to absorb the precious metals instead of bismuth. I would also try adding a small amount of silver spool wire to capture the precious metals. Wonder if you would have better success absorbing the lead with boneash rather then the bismuth method. Let me know what you think?

[@zackfalin7266]

You may have done this before, but I'd like to see a detailed cost analysis- how much does the fuel cost for x amount of material, how much does the electricity cost for the cupel, how much do cupels cost and how many times/how much material can you run through them, etc. Kinda boring math, but interesting when all put together.

[@me5768]

Now you should do an Acid removal test to compare with the recovery from the smelting. But I enjoyed your video very much. Thank you.

[@nonosumarno5441]

Nice to meet you... great... hopefully this knowledge will be useful for the benefit of humanity.

[@jeepin4on4]

Thanks Jason.

[@I.Live4oldcars.prospecting]

Interesting video Jason

[@mattlevesque5927]

Great video brother 🎉

[@johnkatakowsi9907]

Thanks for the time you took showing your formulation on your smelting!!!!!😀

[@johncasebeer179]

Great video!

[@TechGorilla1987]

@20:52 - Very few things make me say "Whoa" like I was in a Bill And Teds Excellent Adventure movie, but that reaction to the steel is one of them.

[@charlesmerfield1322]

Jason, could you use the XRF on the concentrates to better understand what's in them?

[@retselyarrh3895]

How do you separate the gold from the silver???

[@davidanalyst671]

since when did you start doing clips for business insider??? I had no idea I was watching a star!!

[@semoneg2826]

He was always a star

[@miketheminer2023]

Always good info Jason

[@sahabuddinbuddin667]

Memiliki ilmu melebur dgan resep kimia yg pas bisa menikmati keyaan alam di. Sekitar kita

[@reddmuldoone7738]

Have been watching your adventures for a while. I haven't got the fever but I do have a sore throat. Is it necessary to use that much flux in your smelts?

[@anotherluckydad]

Thanks for the brain food Jason. That was a great example of techniques.

[@ahbushnell1]

any advantage of using iron powder? If it all dissolved then the maybe it would reduce the loss.

[@Khusringoldminers]

Amazing very good, good luck

[@المعادن_و_الأحجار_الكريمة]

Thanks

[@1944chevytruck]

good job!

[@Shaboynga]

Could you crush up old cupels to refine out the copper?

[@tominthebox]

GM from Montreal.

[@timhenson4815]

Always enjoy all the information you give us ! Great content!

[@Alondro77]

Really want to send you guys a sample of my heavily weathered black sands from an ancient glacial moraine here in central NJ. I've found gold dust and small flakes from panning, but this material comes from eastern Canadian deposits where it's known that flour gold is held inside the hematite and magnetite grains worn out of the quartz ores. I was lucky enough to find a quartz pebble with a broken hematite grain on the surface, and there in the middle a tiny speck of gold could be seen shining brilliantly in the sun (with a magnifying glass to actually see the little thing). From panning various samples, including black sands from marine deposits that don't have any appreciable amount of gold, I can tell these glacial black sands are MUCH denser. The ocean black sands easily wash around with even light swirling of the pan, while the glacial ones are so heavy that it's often hard to separate them from the gold dust. They also possess the ultra fine 'silver sand', which can be anything from lead ores to PGMs (and the ores in eastern Canada are known to have platinum). It'd be a simple smelt too, since any sulfides are long gone. This material has been ground down by glacial action and weathered in the open for at least 10,000 years. I often find quartz stones with cavities where you can see the imprints of the pyrite crystals and masses that oxidized and washed away over time.

[@lotharschiese8559]

Do a SG of these black sands and do a SG of black sands totally removed. Should help answer your intuition! Then crush in a dolly pot to flour and carefully pan, Eh? Look for Au stuck to the steel on the thumper and inside the pot!

[@lotharschiese8559]

Don't ya love nature's mysteries?

[@whateverX7]

Are the black sands magnetic? If you measure the density and it is significantly greater than 5g/cm3 then you might have something interesting

[@frontiervirtcharter]

Hydrochloric or sulfuric acid will dissolve hematite. Might be worth reacting a small sample of your sands with an appropriate amount of hardware store muriatic acid (HCl) to see what's left when the hematite is removed

[@Alondro77]

@@lotharschiese8559That really would be very cost-prohibitive. I'd have to buy all that equipment to test a few pounds of black sand. It'd be MUCH cheaper to send Mount Baker a sample and let Jason smelt it. He has the expertise to do it right and get a result I can have faith in.

[@anthonyrstrawbridge]

Would a hybrid fire assay chemical refining be beneficial?

[@Ethan-xm4fv]

Jason looks like your getting the work out with pouring #12 s

[@thomasgalpin5506]

thanks for such good info

[@scruggsbuster9458]

Maybe if you put your samples on black paper you might be able to see them😂 but thank you for the video and all your hard work making the videos for us we will see you on the next one😂❤

[@CrushTheRocks110]

Nice brother

[@markbrown6236]

I like the math done on a piece of cardboard, very down to earth.

[@varjen018]

Would it be possible to cut the slag into slivers or is it just too brittle? I think it would be epic pieces to display if one could get them thin enough.

[@markramone69]

What kind of temperature do you recommend to smelt a 1kg bar?

[@AlexWalford-jm3mg]

This make me want to buy a gold mine and do the same thing Jason is doing

[@cblock81]

Hey Jason, not sure if anyone has mentioned, but if you put a piece of cardboard under the crucible it won't stick to the firebrick.

[@lotharschiese8559]

A layer of carbon makes it nonstick.

[@scotthultin7769]

38 👍's up mbmllc thank you for sharing 🤗

[@chuckerickson6721]

Is it worth it? All those nasty fumes on my clothes, skin, hair and laundry....answer is simple no way. :) Thanks Jason

[@semoneg2826]

Well if the dollars keep rolling in why not

[@apertureonline9566]

Well when I used silver for my smelts, i ended up gaining around 2-5 grams of what should be like 93% pure gold. When I use lead, I lose about 2 grams of the lead. I was gonna try these cupels you used in the video, I havent been using nails just because theyre slightly annoying, idk if thats gonna cause a big issue. I got some stuff to try, if I keep failing then I guess ill just have to try and figure something else out

[@josephescott3263]

Is it possible on the first couple of tries that there was no gold in the sample because even though it was wet material, maybe the gold particles settled during shipping and the sample needed to be remixed and possibly dried before testing?

[@Sweezy42069]

It ate the flat bar at the top because it was exposed to more oxygen than the bottom of the flat bar.

[@littlejonathorn6860]

25:45 Jason, is there a way to polish the dirt off or to shine or remove dirt? Would it even be worth it to fix it because its such a small sample?

[@gregwaters944]

When you have gold and silver together how do you separate the two?

[@greedygringoprospecting6941]

how do you refine hold from rhyolite. ??

[@SirHackaL0t.]

I was surprised that you filled up the first crucible so high as you were worried about boil over.

[@kenchappelle816]

Jason to keep things simple and inexpensive can I use Baking Soda and 20 mule team borax ? Potassium Nitrate is becoming a problem to obtain also because it can be used to make explosives.

[@knucklefist8535]

I love and watch all your videos, and will continue to do so. But it seems you like to include large chunks of earlier videos in new videos. This one for example is about 50% previous "part one" content, and 50% new part 2 content. Do what you got to do, but viewers fast-forwarding through half the video can't be good for YTs metrics. Those mountains are callin' me!

[@outdoorloser4340]

I think it's nice of him to do. In case I missed part one.

[@jamisondonald384]

It's customary to link to the first part at the beginning of the second instead of including the whole thing. Hopefully that's what the future holds here.

[@TheVillageGreen]

Jason, you said it takes a couple hours start to finish for a smelt. I was wondering if you could give us an elapsed time indicator on one of the videos, or maybe you have in the past and I missed it? Also, you often comment on the colour of the button, but it’s difficult to see on video sometimes. It might be helpful to see the buttons next to a pure gold and pure silver button so whatever’s happening with camera/lighting/display we get a feel for the comparison you’re making.

[@greenfrog12428]

Is he reposting the same videos? I thought I watched this already

[@phlomix]

Yeah, seems like a remix of part 1, with bits of new mixed in.

[@robo6590]

Bachman Turner Overdrive must have watched a lot of Jason.

[@cigie4575]

I feel like there has to be a more efficient way to extract the precious metals from the concentrate. Have you ever considered using acids to fully dissolve the concentrates, then precipitate out specific metals and separate them that way?

[@kuronyaa-san]

@20:00 It is as if you're making a cake. A golden cake!

[@candui-7]

I found what I believe is a pure acanthite vein Jason! Can I bring it over?

[@lotharschiese8559]

Mail it him.

[@derrickseymour6775]

I wonder if it would be worth trying to suspend the iron bar while smelting to avoid it sitting in the bismuth. Just a thought

[@harvesteasternedge]

Great

[@markae0]

I would like "sreetips" opinion on dissolving - extracting the gold in - from an acid.

[@scott2296]

Why not roast the samples in a campfire (make some hotlinks while you're at it), then use AR instead of smelting? I'm new here, sorry if this is a dumb question.

[@ODGLOCK]

Just make a larger cone mold already

[@bradical2723]

Jason im in MT! New to gold panning and such, can i come visit your mine???

[@jamisondonald384]

You're killing me with that stuck fire brick. Cardboard insert is your friend

[@donaldfitzgerald8950]

Jason, alchemists are like magicians, but you understand what's happening and that's what counts!... I'm lucky if i can remember my name sometimes!? Lol! But spring is coming, wouldn't a horizontal drilling machine help you with your mine, that's what's needed at the mine at Cerro Gordo, ya think? Keep it all happening...⛏️⚒️⚖️👍✌️🤠

[@veronamatt1]

Am I losing my mind or is this a reupload?

[@bentationfunkiloglio]

Rebar might be better than flat bar. Less surface area for bismuth to fuse to.

[@Sauspreme]

instead of adding big chunks of iron to get eaten away to reduce the collector metal, what would happen if you figured out a ratio and weighed out an amount of iron to add to the mix? that way you don't have excess chunks of iron covered in collector metal. Or at least it would seem you could reduce the size of those excess iron chunks and the loss of collector metal maybe. Or would that cause some other kind of contamination issue?

[@patmccrady6063]

I would’ve like to see the comparison of a lead collector

[@domonikoldham7387]

was this a reupload or am i mistaken i think this was posted 2 weeks ago

[@mikehartman5326]

Sometimes, I think using plain old Lead might bring better results.

[@idiggold]

Maybe the flatbar gives more iron surface area compared to the nails