Golden Oozaru - The Ignored Form Of Dragon Ball GT

In this video, we look at The Super Saiyan Great Ape in Dragon Ball GT.
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[@abraarquraishi1681]

Really liked this form and ssj4. It brought sayains back to their roots and simultaneously evolved them. Ssj4 felt different, powerful, primal, and it is achived by controlling this form, combining both of the saiyains transformation, ozaru and super sayain.

[@Grimsly3736]

I agree ssj4 is my favorite transformation it just is, my second favorite is Super Sayin God though cause I felt like it was going on a new direction like how 4 did but instead of back to roots it was gonna go somewhere wild, then ssb happened… look I’m not hating to much but it was such a let down and the only thing helping it out was seeing it used with Kaioken again

[@slickchick5811]

exactly. pure saiyan, not adopted technique or form. Don't know why nobody did a normal size oozaru as 'in-between' ssj4

[@freashswagg1]

😂😂😂😂

[@Rebellions]

I loved that it gave a biological reason for the tails and monkey transformation. Because regardless of the difficulty to achieve, the fact that the Saiyan race just casually HAS Super Saiyan stored away in their biology makes Oozaru make no sense. UNTIL Ssj4 came along and required having mastery over both to achieve.

[@shawn092182]

​@@slickchick5811 What's more powerful than ssj4? Ssj4 oozaru

[@kamenrangerzeo8251]

I like the idea of the Golden Oozaru was the true form of the SSJ legend and then leads up to the powerful SS4.

[@aster4jaden]

One of my favourite Transformations, it was nice to see it utilised in Dragon Ball Heroes.

[@vladline1882]

GT is the only thing that gave us the golden Oozaru

[@aster4jaden]

GT feels more like Dragon Ball than Super does with its never ending Transformations, Golden Oozaru feels like a naturel extension of the Saiyans Heritage where the God Forms, not so much.

[@CrimsonMoonM]

It showed up in imagery in Z on Namek, but it seemed more like it represented the idea of the Super Saiyan rather than an actual form. I don't recall if it was a Toei original, or if it were present in the manga as well. Either way, the general idea existed before GT in a minor form.

[@ThunderJr.]

I love this concept. I wish it was acknowledged more in Z through Vegeta's knowledge as the Prince of Saiyans.

[@Ghandacity]

2:30 - I love how DBZA is basically canon now.

[@windows98alpha35]

The Great Ape needs to come back. And I don't care how it does. It just needs to return.

[@constantinestambolitis321]

Agreed. You could have Raditz come back as a fully mastered SSJ3 in like near the climax of his revenge against Goku looks at the full moon but not for long just to increase his power level for Goku to say “A Super Saiyan who has a tail can draw power from the moon without transforming and the red eyes and the golden tail what amazing power!” Raditz says “I’m glad you recognize Kakarot, I almost meet the description of the Legendary Super Saiyan while not showing my other forms I got on deck, I told you the Saiyans’s full potential is in their tail.”

[@dolger4308]

Ever seen the Broly movie?

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

​@@dolger4308 you blind? It's not big monke

[@constantinestambolitis321]

@@dolger4308 even better idea since he’s the Legendary Super Saiyan.

[@dreadxplayzs7849]

​@@dolger4308u blind or slow?

[@andythegoatman694]

The fact they said its power kept rising made think yea saiyan of legend 😁😁😁😁

[@weaselrider]

GT Goku is freaking nuts. I don't know how people forgot about how OP this entire series was compared to DBS.

[@marumarukira]

Nah, even tho I liked GT more than current DBS anime. I am not gonna say GT's power level is above anime DBS. It's a fact DBS is way above GT

[@lightborn9071]

GT got WAY more popularity, I didn't watch Dragonball back then but I simply couldn't escape it, it was everywhere.

[@Perroden]

Na dude it's clear super goku could easily solo the entire gt in base form.

[@windows98alpha35]

It's not that people forget. They never watched GT in the first place.

[@darthpunk3510]

Eh, I still enjoy DBS way more than GT and the power levels in GT are way longer than in DBS

[@sagittariusneptune9330]

What I like about Golden Ape Oozaru is that it pays homage to the fact their alien monkies, and apes being the greatest of monkies. Plus when a male lowland gorilla hits sexual maturity gets his signature silverback, eerily similar to Saiyans getting blonde/silver hair colors at their peak. Universe 6 saiyans made a refernce to this by the phrase Cabba used to teach Califalia/Kale "Tinge down your back" similar to a Gorillas silverback. Plus this add to the argument that giant monsters like Godzilla and King Kong level are actually the true victors in the DB universe, granted this franchise isn't like Godzilla/King Kongs where they fight giant monsters each other, but you have to admit each time they come across a giant monster with significant hype they have a hell of a hard time beating it like the Hirudegarn in Wrath of the Dragon, Cell Max in Super Hero, or even Oozaru forms themselves, only by using moves with equal beastial power like Dragonfist punch or Beast gohan.

[@nostalgianetwork1225]

Always nostalgic hearing that intro

[@mattmccullough1093]

The very first super saiyan ever from legend. Achieved it in the great ape form and the power was so overwhelming that he ended up killing himself.

[@maridiancrest243]

Imagine if the Original Super Saiyan was just as strong as Great Ape Baby! Then you would really understand why Freeza was so scared of him appearing!

[@mikefrassetti737]

Great video as always. Always felt this and 4 were the true Super Saiyan forms, that 1-3 were imitations but without a true reference point were considered the legendary form. 4 is just the true form controlled, or perfected Super Saiyan

[@maridiancrest243]

Supersaiyan 4 is just Super Saiyan 2!

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

​@@maridiancrest243ssj1*

[@freashswagg1]

😂😂😂

[@freashswagg1]

😂😂😂

[@freashswagg1]

@@maridiancrest243😂😂

[@abraarquraishi1681]

Something i just realized is that both golden ozaru and ssj4 are combining ssj and ozaru, with golden ozaru leaning more to the ozaru side of the sayain and ssj4 leaning more to the ssj side.

[@daddydreet145]

I’ll die on this hill, Saiyans without their tails don’t transform the way they should/ would in the past. Kakarot even said he always feels stronger when he has his tail. Super Saiyan 4 would probably be the design for a saiyan with a tail. Not as strong but that badass design.

[@Velocity_YT]

Agreed

[@andythegoatman694]

Im not gonna lie due to the fact its a shout out to namek saga vegetas telling of the legend in his head if im not mistaken and we saw a slightly gold oozaru and then it happend it became my favorite transformation however the controlling of it and turning into syper saiyan4 is really awesome.

[@OBITOMAJIN]

GT is lowkey 🔥 when you back an really rewatch

[@dabotbruh2555]

Scholar people under estimate golden oozaru Goku and baby especially saying a 500x multiplier. Bulma basically confirms that golden great ape was 1,000x a normal great ape and she gives that power to super baby 2 making baby oozaru 400x 10,000=4,000,000 Ssj4 being confirmed equal to oozaru baby and his ssj3 being lowball 8x weaker than super baby 2 puts SSJ4 GOKU AT 32,000,000 LOWBALLED and he only gets stronger every time he transforms

[@PossessedbyPhoenix]

I bet in at least one of the many universes, the saiyans' transformations are all Oozaru upgraded forms and major fights are all kaiju battles.

[@M3rtyville]

Saiyan Scholar: Golden Oozaru, the ignored form False Super Saiyan: Hold my beer

[@alexbain8606]

isn't false ssj just that they didn't know what ssj was going to look like so they made that

[@Perry2186]

you mean the champion of chrismas

[@MauseDays]

Its a shame too becouse gold Oozaru looked cool af. Such a cool design. Super sayin + huge monster. so so so cool design wise.

[@stewpidasso3910]

The great ape form is awesome! I wish they used it more

[@mathematics557]

Real talk, I always thought that transformation was better than the colored hair forms.

[@shawn092182]

I want to see two oozaru doing the fusion dance. Technically, any saiyan that can become an oozaru can fuse together as long as they synchronize their power level since all oozarus are pretty much the same size.

[@OrangeStarHighSchool]

Super is outright outclassed in terms of power when it comes to GT. Babys outerversal, Shper 17 gas faster deat than hit with veing able to detect IT faster than instantaneously. As well as having actual unlimited power with a weakness. If omega was made today it would take all the expanded lore yet again to defeat him but mych bigger.

[@ناصرعادل-د6ل]

I really like to think that the orginal super saiyan actually turn into the golden ape and that he lost contral and blow up destryion the ograinl saiyans planet

[@gumpyflyale2542]

If vegats went super saying on Namik and had his tail it would be game over for freaza

[@mathematics557]

Facts, freeza would of been shittin himself lol

[@SCHMALLZZZ]

True Super Saiyan

[@mathematics557]

All day 💯💯💪🏾💪🏾

[@bigbobbacharcoal]

SSJ 4 was was always their true form.

[@mathematics557]

Always 💯💯💯💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾.

[@youngcnyce]

There definitely should be the super saiyan of legend movie. Unfortunately it seems unlikely due to them somewhat connecting it to Broly

[@franthehonest-eyes4883]

I honestly think the last transformation at least for Goku should be a golden ssj4 and maybe ultra instinct can be stacked on top of that.

[@calebdonaldson8770]

It's very possible had Goku had his tail and looked up at a Namekian moon (assuming Namek had one), he could've transformed into a golden oozaru once he had obtained super saiyan. Given these circumstances, however, it wasn't until GT that the form could be realized.

[@Velocity_YT]

I don't think Namek had a moon unfortunately.

[@ghoulchan7525]

Namek just has 3 suns. even if it had a moon it probably wouldn't be visable.

[@stevenldoe7838]

The massively downplayed form by GT haters. Golden oozaru not only has to cover SSJ3 It has to cover Baby vegeta / Super Baby 1 / Super Baby 2 And cleanly dominate/tank That same multiplier gets stacked on Super baby 2 to equal ssj4. Super fanboy logic : ssj * oozaru = derp Wouldn't even equal baby's 1st form

[@alexbain8606]

don't many people usually say that golden oozaru is ssj + oozaru and that ssj4 is oozaru + ssj3

[@eeeeee4414]

@@alexbain8606Just because many people say it doesn’t mean they are correct.

[@betterlatethannever4529]

They should give SSJ4 to U6 Sayians as their equivalent to ssjgod.

[@-ahmed5iz]

They don't even have tails and can't go great ape I don't know how they are still saiyans

[@mathematics557]

​@@-ahmed5izto me they're wannabe saiyans.

[@whotfduece08]

Are you ever gonna do What ifs again?

[@bigbobbacharcoal]

I hope at the end of the black freezer arc they transform into Rosearro

[@mathematics557]

Oozaru/Golden Oozaru > Colored hair transformations. Oozaru has always been my favorite transformations along with SSJ4.

[@bob_zor]

Let’s fuckin gooooo

[@TheSadMusician]

WHERE ARE WEEEE GOOOIIINNG

[@axlefoley6330]

I have theory that the original Super Saiyan was actually Bardok, even though we have a name or the original Super Saiyan and all depictions of them are a golden Oozaru, we know Bardok did obtain a Super Saiyan form and Frieza’s bomb actually blasted him back in time (at least in the movie continuity). So I feel like the tale of Bardok was passed on and changed over time like Chinese whispers and and Golden Ape Bardok may have even happened, but the tale was changed with each telling to invoke fear in enemies and the like even to the point that they lost Bardok’s name. Of course this just my own theory and probably holds no water at all but it’s my head canon.

[@mathematics557]

I really like this idea, especially the fact that bardock is my favorite character lol. But your concepts make sense, after all he did have a tail.

[@seta16]

well, in dragon ball heroes. Cumber the original bad saiyan the leader of the osaru race saiyan. He can transform in super saiyan and then to ape , so the multiplayer goes nuts. He can fight goku ultra instinc, vegeto saiyan blue, and golden cooler. The thing s that cumber had the power that his ki made everyone go nuts even goku ultra instinc sign

[@mathematics557]

Niceee Oozaru/SSJ4 > fancy hair colored transformations anyday of the week.

[@cassianoneto1553]

Just gotta point out, the Oozau design for the legendary SSJ was original to the anime. In the manga it isn’t there.

[@simeon8814]

Technically baby was in his strongest form 2 or "super saiyan 3" and he is the golden oozaru of that form, so imo, it was a golden oozaru 3 rather than a regular golden oozaru

[@josephmackseeya2893]

Princess son, Trunks.

[@Monkey.DKakarot]

Guys I have a theory, So you know how Golden Great ape is it's own form? well since it's technically the original SSJ and the saiyan of legend that makes it the true version of SSJ and regular SSJ is a inferior version of it, But in fact the Z LSSJ is the humanoid version. They both supposedly have a 500x multiplier (I think so because Z Broly is around kid buu level I heard) but if that's the case then Golden ape is LSSJ just ones humanoid version, in second coming Brolys LSSJ hair was yellow(Tho that was probably a design change) But hey that's just a theory.

[@Monkey.DKakarot]

Also broly in DBZ says "My power is rising . . . its overflowing!" and Golden ape is stated to keep on growing in ki power=ki

[@JubeiKibagamiFez]

I still believe SSJ4 is the true legendary SSJ form. All other forms are byproducts of having no tail.... Plus Vegeta wasn't able to transform back into SSJ4 at the end of GT.

[@Velocity_YT]

True...I just realized that 😅 Honestly though, why didn't they just have Goku use instant transmission to teleport him and Vegeta to new Namek and have porunga give him his tail back.

[@JubeiKibagamiFez]

@@Velocity_YT They could've pulled Vegeta's tail out, too, but Bulma already had the Blutz Wave Cannon, so easypeasylemonsqueezy.

[@Velocity_YT]

@@JubeiKibagamiFez that got destroyed remember?

[@JubeiKibagamiFez]

@@Velocity_YT It got destroyed by Omega Shenron, but Vegeta specifically said he needed it to turn back into SSJ4.... Unless that was just the english dub? I've never seen the english sub version before.

[@blackbearddmh1277]

I like to believe that Golden Oozaru was the “original” SSJ form, Goku achieved the humanoid form due to the lack of a tail and it’s a weaker version of “The Legendary Super Saiyan” form.

[@rrose9161]

Without the fans being told the legend beforehand goku's ssj form would have been called an asspull by the fanbase and even might have been hated and reviled instead of adored

[@stewpidasso3910]

Baby vegeta would be the second scariest looking villian in real life next to first form cell imperfect cell

[@constantinestambolitis321]

If Raditz returned I would like it revealed a Super Saiyan with a tail is able to look at the full moon but if they look away after looking at it before they become a Great Ape their eyes turn red like the original SSJ design and their tail turns super golden with a bunch of aura. That would be suited if Raditz has mastered SSJ3 and Goku’s worried what might happen.

[@psyxypher3881]

Did we ever get a canon multiplier for Golden Great Ape and Super Saiyan 4? I always just assumed it got to 4000 since Super Saiyan 3 times ten equals that.

[@TheVentrexian]

Oh so is it implied the "legendary super saiyan" was golden monke? How possible is it that it's the same "saiyan God" that they talk about in super I think.

[@TherealPapaDogP]

My thing that turned me off from DB: The many Saiyan power ups. 1-3 were fine. Super Saiyan God, Blue, Rose, etc. it’s just too much. Golden Oozaru has always been special to me.

[@BeaglzRok1]

Still miffed that even with DBS having Vegeta take a new path besides UI, he doesn't consider getting his tail back at all despite his wife using the dragon balls for cosmetic surgery all the time. Man was the one non-GT example of a Great Ape that can maintain control, and even had a technique to make a fake moon to access it whenever he wanted, but I guess after Frieza got wiped he figured Goku-brand Super Saiyan was the only way to go. Probably some Giant Piccolo/Buff Trunks logic of being too slow or whatever. I mean even with the valid excuse that Toriyama didn't want to draw tails anymore, Vegeta had that belt technique and knew how to not get paralyzed when his tail was grabbed.

[@Velocity_YT]

That's the funny part. The saiyans speed doesn't seem tk get affected when they transform into apes for some reason 🤔

[@DaltonSavage-c5e]

😢I want gohan to get a controlled oozaru form that's smaller and leaner maybe itle be his final"beast"transformation in a few years

[@nicholascanada3123]

Full power broly is like super Saiyan 4

[@vapegames7440]

i always said super saiyan 4 was just great ape's 3rd form.

[@joshuaott7783]

Heres a thought. How strong would a Broly Goku fusion be?

[@HellBreaker]

to me the super saiyan of legend was broly. its pretty well explained in the non canon movie

[@pyromaniak2736]

dude idk theres something off about saying "dont do the basic math just listen to the diologue" (in a series mind you where kid goku in base is pushing back an attack that he couldnt push back in SSJ4 mind you) and then later going "i know its the same form and we dont know how these waves translate to power exactly but it should just be basic math and this is the answer" i agree that golden oozaru being stronger than just SSJ1xmonkey makes sense in the context of the lore and what is happening in screan at that time rather than only being slightly stronger than SSJ3 but saying blutz waves translate directly into power is pure speculation. does it make sense that more blutz means stronger? yes absolutely but saying 100 times as many blutz = 100 times as strong is nothing but an assumption it could be exponential where every blutz worth of energy multipliesd by 10 again or it could be diminishing returns where 1B is 10x 10B is 50x 100B is 200x 1000B is 1000x (these are all the multipliers to base) we just dont know we have no wqay to scale it, no indication of the scale in the show and no official source for it.

[@SaiyanScholar]

"just listen to the dialogue" Yes. Watching Dragon Ball properly is a struggle for some.

[@nicholascanada3123]

Need BEAST in opening

[@johnathanjamesjohnsonjr7408]

👏🎉💯🎯👍❗💥 Also 4 the algorithm.

[@shawn092182]

If an oozaru can go super saiyan, turning into a golden oozaru, then couldn't it also become a super saiyan 4 oozaru?

[@OnlySayori]

of course the golden monkey form was ignored, its just a 500 times multiplier, was far more risky incase they lost control of themselves, and trying to detransform will just turn you into a far BETTER form

[@goodguycwyzz4768]

It’s not the golden Ozaru ignored form. It’s the Ozaru form itself that is ignored now. Why don’t Goten and Trunks have tails?

[@Velocity_YT]

Check out Saiyan scholars previous video on Great Apes. Then you'll know why.

[@ZoherJaadid]

I am the hope of the universe, I am the answer to all living beings who cry for apple pie good one 😅😅😅😅

[@Logan_97]

Golden Oozaru is like Oozaru × SSJ 3 10 x 400 = 4000 SSJ 4 is like 5k too 10k I guess

[@bmxican0704]

It’s literally because they don’t have tails anymore

[@bensoncheung2801]

💪💪💪

[@f2pgpb993]

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT OOZARU GOLD IS FROM DRAGON BALL GT AND THAT IS NOT CANNON, I MEAN THAT IS WHY AKIRA TORIYAMA NEVER USE THAT BECAUSE HE NEVER LIKED DRAGON BALL GT AT ALL , anyways the only people that might end up using that are fanfics or people that make Dragon Ball AF , anyways peace

[@hitz4754]

Why didn't vegeta wish for his tail back?

[@Velocity_YT]

Akira Toriyama didn't want them back unfortunately

[@williamcase426]

So ignored

[@ke6944]

That's a myth.

[@jaycjas3143]

Scaling is so off in this video its ridiculous. Kid gohan regrew his tail due to bruits waves so why would baby going great ape be ridiculous? If a child only grew his rail and transformed then its not unreasonable for baby with a 1000x to go great ape. And where is your scaling for golden ozaru being anything over 500x amp? This is all subjective

[@brad-leelindo25]

early not first

[@dolger4308]

Bro's farming these "lost form" videos lol

[@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb]

SS4 is better

[@maximillianoorosco-randhaw9336]

First

[@Hitman-4769-1]

It's blitz waves not brutes waves....get it right

[@SaiyanScholar]

It's not BLITZ waves. It's Bruits rays in the original Japanese script and Blutz in the modified English version. Get it right.

[@boredfangerrude8759]

Super Saiyan was 10x, not 50x.

[@BigVEE]

GT failed it. Too much of a rush to get to what it wanted. Not like Gokek should have been strutting his stuff in it. He was never able to control the thing. Only Vegeta was shown as a true master that could have used something like it.

[@Vamroc]

It's not ignored Golden Oozaru is a DB:GT invention and GT isn't canon, HELL GT might as well be considered terrible fan-fic plus fans HATE IT

[@Velocity_YT]

Not all fans hate it.

[@BishopM1]

GT is garbage

[@TheOther644]

Loved the original myth of the Super Saiyan being the Golden Oozaru form. Me, with the Legendary Super Saiyan Broly being the one I also figured that was something he could do. But in the original movie he got his tail cut off, so despite being freaky powerful and power nonstop in it growing he couldn't reach that ultimate power level. And if he could, would he be overwhelmed and blow up like the one of legend did. But I love the green hair, and maybe Broly would still retain it. But I'm hoping with this new Broly being canon, and said at the start of the movie to be the Legendary Super Saiyan or a mutant. That if they were to adapt the SSj4 and brought back the Golden Oozaru, that it should be Broly who achieves these forms. But he'll need his tail back before he can do this. RIP Akira Toriyama

[@PoopyDoggyDance]

idk why i always thought it was blutz waves haha