1968 CAMARO Z/28 302 BUILD! OPEN HEADER STARTUP! 30-30 NOSTALGIA PLUS CAMSHAFT

[@bobnankervis9722]

In 1975, I built a DZ302 and used the GM '140' service cam. I ran it in my 74 Vega GT with 1 3/4" Hooker headers. The car ran 10.97 in the quarter mile on stock 7" wide tires. Without a doubt, it was the hardest car to drive on the street I've ever owned. With the Muncie 4spd when you attempted to leave the stop sign, you would either stall the engine or do a burnout without trying. Very unforgiving, but very fast!

[@damianlindsey6177]

I have a Cosworth vega with a 4.8 in it with a tremec tko 600 and it is absolutely terrifying in all the right ways on the street. Ran 10.70s but I had 275 radials on it and it was mini tubbed.

[@MUUKOW3]

​@@damianlindsey6177If it has a 4.8 it's not really a Cosworth Vega without the Cosworth in it. Kinda like a Hemi Cuda with a 440 six Pac is not a Hemi Cuda anymore. Still sounds like a fun ride Vega"s were one of the best hot rod platforms from the 70's!

[@michaelmaher4328]

@@damianlindsey6177 tell me more details on the engine and the work you did to it, sounds like a kool lightweight pocket rocket

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks guys, my camera man Alex also had a Vega with a SBC back in the day. AG

[@edpetrocelli2633]

Back in the day Hurst made a V8 in a vega kit. Came with drag link. headers and motor mounts. I propbly did a dozen of them. I liked them, especially the Cosworths. I was a line mechanic at a chevy dealer in the 70`s, those little cars still did 100mph in third after putting 411`s in them, run right past 7000rpm. Just don`t over heat them

[@michaelheiges7516]

Love the sound of the DZ 302. Such an awesome motor. Would love to have one.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Michael, they are pretty cool for sure.AG

[@johnhughes2043]

DZ’s were awesome engines when paired with a light car. Only two rides that ever got my ‘’69 340 Cuda were a 375/396 Nova and a 302 Z! Great vids on a great Chevy engine. Good job.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks John, they were all cool engines.AG

[@lesbratton]

A '68 Z/28 engine would be the small journal MO designation. DZ motors came out in 69, being large journal 4 bolt main blocks.

[@johnhughes738]

Sounds great I also had one and a 340 they were both good engines but my 340 was a man

[@jefferycoleman3781]

Very thorough with your builds! It's funny that the two main cams I was considering for my 327 build are cams you have used recently, this 30-30 and the SUM-1202 4/7 swap. I ended up deciding on a Herbert solid flat tappet 235/245 @050 109LSA 500 lift. That little 302 is going to rev to the moon with that 30-30 remake cam! FUN STUFF

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks for the info Jeffrey. AG

[@DarrenShaw-ev5tb]

Gotta support a Canadian feller ! - Watchin from Alberta

[@goldsgarage8236]

Hello Alberta and thanks for your support. , during my consulting career I worked in Calgary, Red Deer and Sherwood Park. Beautiful province.AG

[@craighansen7594]

302, great motor! I have a small journal 327 and some 283 parts, might build a 302 tribute as the 327 has good dbl hump heads. I always wanted a first gen Camaro with a 302/4spd.

[@Sabe53]

I'd run Scat rods and at least main studs. There's a reason Chevy went to 4 bolt mains and bigger rods in 69. Have fun with it.

[@goldsgarage8236]

You are off to a good start Craig. let us know how it gores. AG

[@Dogboy1960]

You gotta really want that old school experience to go that route. I'm not sure I'd do that. There isn't any upside to it that I can see for a street car. 302 cu in Z/28s from 1967-69 are a Super Cool part of Chevy History but there is a reason why the 302 never made it into anything other than the Trans Am Camaro effort. It's a PEANUT sized V8 and with the introduction of the 327 Chevy had already moved well past this diplacement size in the years well before 1967. The DZ302 only exists because Trans Am limited size to 305 and under. Chevy wouldn't have built this engine if not for the limit on Displacement. Think of it this way. 265 in 1955, then 283, then 327 and then in 1967, the same year we saw the 302, a 350 was introduced. Torque moves street cars. Bigger displacement is the easiest way to find that torque and it'll make more Horse power without having to REV to the moon. As for a home built tribute 302 and if you want to make decent power you will have to find that power at high RPM levels. That brings up what makes the DZ302 so COOL. Chvey quite litterally threw every trick in the book at this enegine, within reason, at the time. Forged everything in the bottom end, 4 bolt block, and even free floating wrist pins. As lower ends go this was probably the raciest engine unleashed on the street in 1967. It had to be because Mark Donahue and other factory back racers were going to try any make a lot more HP than the street versions. 8,000RPM was gonna be hit at every shift point to make power. A very STOUT bottom end was the only way to avoid losing engines at every race track.

[@Sabe53]

@@Dogboy1960 Decamed a buddies 69 Z28 years ago, he didn't want solids anymore. Put in a milder hydraulic cam and he didn't like it at all. You gotta have the right mindset to run a 302 and I do.

[@Dogboy1960]

For sake of argument to make. Let's say I just want to make 450-500+HP. I can get there with a 302 or I can choose the super common 383-400 build we see so often these days. What I gotta do to get there is wildly different in terms of cost and how big the RPM will need to be for that 302. I can build a reasonably tame big inch SBC and get to those power levels at 6,000-6,500RPM pretty easily. With a 302 I'm gonna need some really good parts (far more expensive) because the little 302 will be full on racy. It's probably going need a 8,000RPM upper limit on RPM to make anything close to the same 500HP. Between cost and far lower torque numbers in the RPM range a street car will spend most of it's time driving in......this in a nutshell explains why you only see 283, 302 and even 327 engines in the cars where the engine is a numbers matching addition to the origiinality and value of the car. I just really cannot imagine any scenario other that a REAL '67-69 Z/28 that would lead me to build and install a 302 today.

[@billfioretti3013]

The engine sounds great, Alan! You and your team should be proud of a job well done. I've built a few Ford Boss 302 engines but the smallest Chevy was a 327 with components that I incorporated. to mimic a Chevy DZ302. Both the Ford and the Chevy are happiest with low first-gear manual transmissions and low rear gears. The Ford will support a tighter, more aggressive cam and larger carburetor due to freer-flowing cylinder heads but is in desperate need of more cubic inches for the same reason. The "personalities" of both engines are remarkably similar. They will both rev to the moon and almost need to. I like the way you methodically document your work and related information and present it to the customer. I did it in a very similar manner back when I was doing builds for the general public.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks as always Bill for the great comments and information Bill. AG

[@jaywalker7617]

Great Video I always loved the 30 30 cam. That Z/28 will be Awesome to drive.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks for watching and commenting Jay. AG

[@mrho4speed]

Thank you for another great video. I love the book of documents and plan, plan, plan!!! We do appreciate your work and attention to detail!!!

[@goldsgarage8236]

As always, thanks for watching and commenting Mr. AG

[@111000100101001]

Very nice build! I can feel Tony’s excitement to get that engine in his beautiful car!

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Tank, AG

[@dondotterer24]

Bill did a great job!

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Don. Yes, they were nice flow numbers, lucky to have him. AG

[@howabouthetruth2157]

That engine sounds MEAN!!! Great job! I've always loved the DZ 302.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Truth. Glad you enjoyed it.AG

[@TimothyArnott-m7z]

Hey AG, Tim here, I know you got 16 proper rockers.....it just made me think of my Stock Eliminator buddy, who back in '87 broke the record (D stock automatic) and they retired the record......nobody cud touch the ET, got chk'd by NHRA, was ok....my point:....he went thru 120 rockers arms, to find 16 that were the EXACT ratio spec's by NHRA........this is the kind of SUPER detail I enjoy......I pray ur Z28- 302 KICKS BUTT!!...just know that certain sub's like me, know what it takes to make things proper.....just a little story fer ya.....LOVE the chanel (as u know)......GOD SPEED my brother!!.....PEACE to you......may Tony enjoy his Z for yrs to come!!!😊

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Tim, I always enjoy your comments. AG

[@jimkillen1065]

I use to have bb mopars hot rods but i just could not keep them together at the rpms i liked to make hp . So i bought a 68 Camaro, 4 speed and built a 302 out of a 4 bolt main 350 block . Had a company in the Dallas area that builds dirt track engines do the machine work ect to be able to turn it to 7500 . A set of heads off a g gas car. Solid lift roller cam ect ect . A fun car to drive for me on the street . The tach with a rev limiter was a good idea . As a missed gear saved my butt. The high rpm hp and not lay over at 5.5k was good also .That experience showed me the value of good cylinder heads . ..

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks for your comments Jim. That is exactly how it works, as long as you have a valve train that can keep up with it. AG

[@user-ts1fp4nm9y]

You're very lucky to have 2 pre 1969 Z-28's.I always liked 67-68 Camaro 's especially the Z-28's.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks William, i cherish having mine back, i bought it in 1969. AG

[@robertandmaxwell]

So Good! Told ya that cam was awesome! It sounds fantastic….

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Robert. AG

[@toddbrown2236]

The engine sounds great, Allan. I'm sure Tony will be well pleased with its performance once it's reinstalled in his car. Thanks for posting the video!

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Todd, nice to see you have the engine installed.AG

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

Sounds great, back when factory performance engines sounded pretty radical compared to others. Nice work.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks for your comment Jimmy.AG

[@DesertRatFabrication]

Engine sounded great un-corked Al, when I put the 350 in my 55 truck I fired it up without mufflers for the first start up, good memories of that first start up, looking forward to the dyno day😀😀

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Desert. For a real car guy, i don't think the thrill ever goes away.AG

[@DesertRatFabrication]

@ 😀😀👍

[@jimmy_olds]

Sounds amazing. Love your attention to detail(s)

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks for watching and commenting Jimmy.AG

[@Mr688895]

Great video and documentation. Thank you and great job.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Nice comment, thanks Mr. AG

[@jesse5000]

It sounds mean! Very nice.

[@dondotterer24]

Sounds great.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks guys. AG

[@douglasmeek9774]

That is a bad ass engine!!

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Doug, we were pretty happy with it. AG

[@91rss]

saw a DZ crank for 40 bux and some pink rods and pistons at another table at a swap meet today . saw a super rare NASCAR Cleveland heads and intake at another. TH coffee is selling in grocery stores in Fl now

[@gordonborsboom7460]

TH, I hope is not TurboHydro. That would taste a bit bitter, I'm guessing

[@goldsgarage8236]

thanks 91, we buy TH coffee here in grocery stores also, but for some reason it tastes different. I will look for it next time I am in Fl. AG

[@91rss]

@@goldsgarage8236 look up Sumpter swap meet in Brooksville off the 75

[@pamdunn8454]

sounds just right - what's the info on the cam , make , lift , duration , overlap ? - so i can put one in my model A coupe , with a 1966 corvette 327 camel heads thanks

[@Sabe53]

All cam specs are in the video.

[@Sabe53]

Your 327 will run like the 302 with more torque. When Chevy made the 302 they destroked the 365 horse Vette engine with a 283 crankshaft, everything else was the same specs.

[@doomman700]

327 is a better 302. 302 was only brought to life to fit a class requirement. The 327 will rpm and have more torque doing it.

[@pamdunn8454]

sorry i did not have time to watch the video at the time so i skipped forward to hear it run , sounded so good

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Pam and everyone that weighed in on her question.AG

[@Dogboy1960]

That engine running brings back memories for sure. Funny thing about today vs the past. Engine Displacement in SBC builds are just so much BIGGER. In the end that trend to today is completely understandable. Cheap Horse Power and a lot more torque. One thing is lost though. That wild sounding idle. You can buy big lift long duration cams today too but they very rarely sound this good at idle. Engine displacement is a big part of it. The same cam profile in larger displacement engine always sounds tame vs the smaller engine. 302s and 327s have a reputation as engines that "Rev". This cam in a 400 build wouldn't sound anything close to so wild. In this 302 it's gonna be a fender shaker for sure. All of that comes down to how the same cam in the smaller displacement will move all the peak power numbers to a higher place on the curve. That ratty idle is a sure fire indication of how this one will drive. High RPM shift points are given based just on that sound alone.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Great observation. You are exactly correct. A lot of cam for a small displacement engine.AG

[@richardsmith-qy6vl]

I had the 302 gm 140 off road design cam in my nova and i loved that cam i know about 10 years ago you could stil get it through gms performance catalog i dont think they offer it anymore but with the peice of roller cams and lifters id like to put one in the 406 im building to put in a s10 it would work fine its going to be a budget build so im thinking about going that route but isky has a really good hydralic roller that perfect for a 406 its the omg79 cam nolan at isky desinged fo bill at the old mans garage on you tube its ground on a 109 lsa and i think its about 570 lift and close on the duration like that cam in the 302 and it has enough vacumm for power brakes he has it in his 421 thats got trick flow 230 heads and about 13 to 1 compression and its in his 79 malibu and he drives the car everywhere and on just motor i know the car goes mid 10s and he drove it to and from ohio to Florida and back on e85

[@goldsgarage8236]

Great info and comment Richard. Thanks AG

[@michaelhurley545]

Sounds great be cool to see the dyno numbers..

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Micheal. Unfortunately we ran out of time to get this one on the dyno, however we have Roberts 302 in the pipeline so, hopefully we will get to dyno it.AG

[@Jeff-n3v3l]

totally forgot about the Duntov 30-30 cam, very good camshaft

[@goldsgarage8236]

It was pretty cool in its day. AG

[@RW_TractorPilot]

Skip to around 15:30 for the Engine start .

[@rickyrunner7619]

got the same set up in my 68 z/28

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Ricky, What gear ratio? How does it work? AG

[@truthboomertruthbomber5125]

Obviously the cap on the carb allows air through!!

[@johnz8210]

Don't need a choke with that on there.

[@keith6872]

He never caught that mistake. But maybe it had a screen on top.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Yes it has a screen on top. Good catch. AG

[@truthboomertruthbomber5125]

@@goldsgarage8236 My first bracket car had a doubled up paper air filter element sticking out of the hood. The plan was for a 68 Hemi Cuda hood scoop. I kept a plastic leaf bag over the exposed filter and would invariably forget to remove it before firing up the engine ! Kaboom fire up followed by a hollow Whoomp as the engine died :)

[@DennisL-n6i]

Yeah, awesome.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Dennis..AG

[@EvanKendrick-l7d]

Excellent presentation. One question for you. On the run stand I see a flexplate. Is there a reason to use that as opposed to a flywheel? Thanks.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks for the question Evan. No, a flywheel would work as well. The engine will rev a little faster with the lighter flex plate, but both will work.AG

[@roberthollinshead2325]

Sounds good

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks for watching and commenting Robert.AG

[@bobnewman8978]

Another great video ! Does the cam profile dictate the need for increased compression?

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Bob, for sure, with this cam you need compression, more the better but I wanted it to be pump gas friendly. AG

[@gregoaks4413]

.30 .30 Solid lifter Duntov ?

[@danaeverhart6487]

Yak yak yak!

[@keith6872]

Cam Doctor info would be nice. I hear Comp is known for not grinding cams accurately.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Keith. I think Bill did run the numbers on this build. Bill can you weigh in on this question please. AG

[@goldsgarage8236]

Sorry for the previous reply Keith. It was not correct, Bill does have a Cam Doctor, but we did not use it on this build. I did verify the lift and degreed it. AG

[@gordonborsboom7460]

Can you explain how the OEM's would have built all those flat tappet engines and never, I assume, used a 20 minute / 2000 RPM cam break-in procedure for the millions of engines they built. I have never heard anyone tackle this question with any engine build / engineering background. Either they were broken in before startup or they deemed it unimportant I bring this up because of the 30-30 mention in the tag line (Duntov 327 / 350?).

[@thud9797]

Cams and lifters properly machined. Just saw a video where a guy tested six different current lifters and on half the crown was machined wrong.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Good question Gordon. I am sure the OEM's didn't break them in like we do now. I was in the FORD Dearborn plant in 1968. They were building Mustangs and Cougars. At the end of the production line, they strapped them to a chassis dyno, held their foot on the throttle for a few seconds, then drove them away. Today, we use a detailed, meticulous, time consuming and expensive process to ensure a successful break in. Some of it may not be necessary, but we are not taking any chances. One of the issues is the type of cams we are using. An OEM L48 350 for example has only about .400" valve lift, very soft acceleration ramps and valve springs with only 200lb force in the open position and 80lb closed. When you replace that with a performance cam with say .550" lift and valve springs with over 300lb springs in the open position, and more aggressive lobe ramps, the contact stress between the lifter and cam is much higher. i think the issue of quality control and metallurgy issues is an unknown. Maybe other viewers have a point of view on this question and can weigh in also. AG

[@bobnankervis9722]

The oil still had zinc in it. Flat tappers like zinc to prevent wear. One of the reasons modern engines went to roller cams

[@nojunkwork5735]

They run the engines on natural gas at the engine assembly plant.

[@thud9797]

@@nojunkwork5735 Yes for a few seconds, not for a 20 to 30 minute break in.

[@halfdanlothbrock8587]

Check the bending not sure it's disengaged

[@goldsgarage8236]

Good observation, thanks for commenting Halfdan.AG

[@pieterloock8911]

What lifters did you put in here? I see it had a flat tappet comp cam camshaft. Would you have any reservations in using a comp cam and lifter combo set on a stock 350 sbc?

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks for the question Pieter. We used the COMP cam and lifter kit. No reservations at all. They should work fine. AG

[@MUUKOW3]

I'm curios about the other 302 that has to go 60 over,why not resleeve the block back to stock? You still have an all original block that way.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Scott, yes that is an option, and possibly the only one, although a very expensive one. Sleeving also requires decking. My MS was not willing to try that, but I know that others do it successfully, AG

[@kimmorrison9169]

Al, I’m impressed with the book of documents you provide each customer. It’s a very nice touch. BTW, I never learned what a 30/30 cam was. How did that nickname come about?

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Kim, There is a history to that. I think one of the reasons is that the valve lash for the original cam is .030" for both intake and exhaust. AG

[@lesbratton]

It was originally called the 30-30 duntov cam, after Zora Arkus-Duntov.

[@kimmorrison9169]

@@lesbratton i know that part

[@doomman700]

Does the comp copy have a better performance lobe than the original cam?

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Dooman. Yes i think so. he OEM cam actually had more advertised duration, however, since the OEM cams were designed to last 100K miles, the ramps were softer and valve acceleration was slower. AG

[@95Sn95]

Am i seeing things or is that somehow running with one of those plastic carb covers on it?

[@goldsgarage8236]

Good catch Fivohh. The carb cover is vented on the top. AG

[@davidkeeton6716]

I hope it lasts. In this day, the odds of a flat tappet cam failing before too long are great. I love the sound and the way a 30-30 cam performs in a street car, but flat tappet cams are so prone to failure now, I wouldn't gamble the rest of my engine. I'd go with a roller cam.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks for your comments David.AG

[@111000100101001]

Wonder if a 262 crank in a 350 block would make a “poor man’s” 302?

[@goldsgarage8236]

4" bore, 3" stroke = 302. you got it. AG

[@goldsgarage8236]

In the early days, they bored a 283 to 4" and called them 301. AG

[@jasonahlstrom1424]

No torque on those 302 motors but they can scream like hell. Better have 4.10 or more gears with those engines. Have an original 30-30 cam that came out of my 265 in my 1955 Wagon!

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Jason, Tony has a 4.56 gear in his z.

[@donlukes2805]

I have a 69 DZ 302 block, would you be able to send me the specks on your motor. ?

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks for the question Don. The block was bored .030" and line honed. We used the original 1178 forged crankshaft. Scatt rods, 10.4:1 forged pistons. 1/16 ring package, file fit rings, The rotating assembly was balanced by Atchison Machine in London Ontario. The original heads were ported and flowed by Bill Little of Belmont auto in London Ontario, (260/190CFM @ .500" ). The cam is COMP solid lifter flat tappet 30-30 Nostalgia. 12-673-4. 108 IVC, 112LSA. lift .498/502", We also used the OEM "0" stamped rocker arms. The heads were machined for 7/16 rocker arm studs and guide plates. The correct dual plane aluminum intake manifold was also used. We also used a standard volume M55 oil pump with the OEM windage tray. Hope this helps. AG

[@donlukes2805]

Thank you so much

[@donlukes2805]

​@@goldsgarage8236I also watched you presentation on bolts were good

[@OSRn77e]

You calling it a zeb 28?

[@gordonborsboom7460]

Zed. Anglish version of Zee

[@Wes-b7v]

Needs a bigger cam and a higher single plane intake

[@baconunteggs]

Sweet Engine! Love the Book of Details too!

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks for watching and commenting Bacon.AG

[@martythornton604]

What does a build like this cost nowadays?

[@goldsgarage8236]

That's a good question Marty and it depends on a number of factors. Do you have a good usable core? Block, heads etc. Stock rotating assembly or all aftermarket like SCAT or EAGLE? OEM or aftermarket heads, roller or flat tappet cam etc. A lot of things are optional or discretionary like line honing, decking and balancing. Can you do the assembly yourself. Typically a turnkey build, pan to intake is in the range of $6-$12K USD. Finding usable and correct numbers matching OEM parts can also add a large variable. Hope this helps. AG

[@joe-hp4nk]

I'm surprised you went with a steel shim gasket with aluminum heads. The rule is to only use steel shim with iron heads. Hope it works out.

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks for the comment Joe. These heads are the OEM cast iron heads, they are not aluminum. You are correct that the steel head gasket should not be used with aluminum heads. AG

[@PeggyParrow]

Where did you come up with ZeD 28 ??, Its called a ZEE 28 !

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Peggy, only in America. In most of the rest of the world, the correct pronunciation is ZED. I should have clarified tis in the video. AG

[@DZ-rz7fi]

Small block stroker

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks DZ.AG

[@Wes-b7v]

Making all of 200 hp at 9000 rpms

[@jims2286]

7000 RPM is not necessary just ware out and over reving the engine.I would bet it will not make any more power at about 6400 to 6500 RPM

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks for your comment Jim. HP is a product of torque x RPM. A 302 does not have much torque, so it needs RPM to make power. Unfortunately we did not get to dyno this 302, but you are probably correct that max power will be about 6500RPM. AG

[@danielseghers8214]

I’m always sorry I sold my original 69 Z/28 original 302 , 4 speed

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks Daniel, i think any one who ever sold one feels the same way. I feel fortunate it get my mine back.AG

[@jamesshipley4985]

Same setup I had in my 69Z28, DROVE IT DAILY!! OH YEAH WITH 5:38 GEARS!!! MORE FUN THEN SEX 🤯😎🤣🤓

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks James, 5.38 would work for sure. As to the second part of your comment, I wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole. AG

[@halfdanlothbrock8587]

Bendix

[@James-n4d8t]

It sounds like you are saying Zed 28 🥴

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks James, that is the Canadian prononciation.AG

[@genemanno1533]

Here a reason you call a Z28 a zed 28? I never heard anyone pronounce Z as zed. Maybe your just being funny.😊 Why on god’s green earth would owner want a cam that big in a street car? It does not sound nor run like a stock Z28.

[@georgedreisch2662]

Seems like referring to Z as “Zed”, is common in machinist circles, usually in referring to the Z axis in machines. I’ve wondered what the roots of this reference are, as does it have some root in specificity, or is it simply a fashionable thing?

[@goldsgarage8236]

Thanks for your comment Gene. Zed is the correct pronunciation in Canada and most of the world. Zee is an American pronunciation. Thanks for watching and supporting my channel.AG

[@Wes-b7v]

Eh