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@johnverheyen8123 жыл бұрын
In my journey of better golf, the right shoulder down and forward is the missing piece to most golf instruction. Without the detailed eyes of my instructor, and the focus on it by instructors like Eric Cogorno, it would go missed. Hitting the ball with a trail shoulder moving down, rather than out, produces such a strong ball flight. Combine this with what Mike Bender coaches on the hands and arms in the downswing, and you have something special.
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
:) Great to hear John!! Appreciate you being here with us!
@1209Gazza Жыл бұрын
I hit the ball with the right shoulder and take out the conscious use of hands and arms.This move is also THE key to clearing the the left hip. No other move provides consistency to do it. All of a sudden everything fell into place when I discovered it.
@CogornoGolf Жыл бұрын
👊👊 Appreciate you being here with us!
@seadonkey6913Ай бұрын
Me as well. I use to put an alignment stick across my shoulders and try and get my shoulders inside the ball. I was self taught and remember using a ruler on the TV to see where a pro’s shoulders line up at impact and after that I never looked back. My hips move forward and open up perfectly just by me dropping my rear shoulder straight down.
@kylemaddock4383 жыл бұрын
Best coach in NY. Mark’s the man. Worked with him for years. Nice video Eric!
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
:) Thanks for the support, Kyle!!
@johnfeilmeier84656 ай бұрын
I have tried EVERYTHING to improve my swing and consistency and this is the key! Right shoulder down and towards the ball (out) is the best move to do it. Thanks Eric!
@CogornoGolf6 ай бұрын
Glad this one helped John!!
@scotthenshall45373 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to try this. For so long I've struggled with stalling at impact, being all squared up and closing the face. I can unintentionally pull a 3/4 wedge 50 metres left yet nail driver all day 🤯, and I play off 5. I think this video may be the answer I was looking for. I found that you can try so many things such as trail arm bend through impact, hands low and left, clear left side, rotation, etc etc but always for that millisecond at impact you can still stall or even early extend. I think this explanation can help alot of golfers. Thanks Eric 👍
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
You got it, Scott! Hope it serves you well...All of those things you mentioned involved :) If you dont get it sorted or want any guidance try out www.cogornogolf.com free 7 day trial so you can send in your swings and we can build a plan!
@Feverdream77772 жыл бұрын
I was told by a Pro at the Golf Shop that I was dropping my right shoulder.... Now I know what he meant. I was dropping my shoulder, which also meant I was somewhat bowing my entire spine, neck, and head in the process. All that is creating a big giant sweeping high hook in my shots, and big block pushes in my off hits. Thanks for making it clear as to what it's supposed to look like.
@CogornoGolf2 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure, Adam! Thank you for watching!
@billgrather65093 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how you always put out a video of exactly what I am working on (maybe you are listening in like Google) but it was really helpful so that I don't go astray, thx.
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
:) Happy to hear it Bill! Thanks for watching!
@IvanWain-id8vs4 ай бұрын
Hi Eric. Ivan from England. Great video and I'm a keen fan of the tilting videos in general which have really helped me. One constructive comment and hopefully it's possible when filming, is to add in some slow motion of your swings. I think this would really help me and potentially others. Keep up the great content.
@CogornoGolf4 ай бұрын
Appreciate it Ivan!!
@johnrodgers60493 жыл бұрын
Love this shoulder discussion. I think if you maintain your spine angle (avoid early extension) and you have the correct shoulder action, it puts your arms and hands in a position that you can’t throw away the angles early. I don’t think that one needs to think about holding the lag. If you do all of the correct things with spine and shoulders, the subconscious puts your arms and hands where they need to be (that’s athleticism). Most people dump the angles because of athleticism, their body is putting them in a bad position and the hands need to do something to get to the ball.
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! The only caveat to that is if there is a clear issue earlier 1. Open club face 2. Steep downswing Probably 80% of the time (or more) when I see a poor downswing....no lag, etc they also have something bad earlier. If you club face is open your brain will also change the body motions to try and make up for that!
@fordfrick4128 Жыл бұрын
The concept that early extension is just the mind helping you in a split second because you did bad things early AND that the mind wont have to “help” as much if you do GOOD things early is a game changer and it’s TRUE!
@transcender59743 жыл бұрын
Pretty much, for me, if I try to retrace the right shoulder movement from the backswing in the downswing....i get a good result. That's a feel that works for me.
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@coffeestrudel2252 жыл бұрын
Great stuff as usual from the best golf instructor on youtube!
@coffeestrudel2252 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on “dropping the trail shoulder early” Eric?
@CogornoGolf2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your very kind words!! I run through the details of that topic in the KZbin video linked below as well as my Instagram post from today :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/o16UYqeriZaEg7s instagram.com/reel/CjaVnuqDhTs/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Hope these help my friend!
@2cardarsenal3103 жыл бұрын
Nice shot Eric, Eric mumbles, "I haven't missed a green all year!" Lol
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
Lol :)
@timgunner28743 жыл бұрын
These lessons are always great. I notice most of Eric's lessons demonstrate iron play. Is there a way to interject in the videos (either directly in the lesson or with a tagged lesson video) IF there are any differences in technique/approach with the Driver versus an iron?
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim! Appreciate the feedback! Here are a couple videos on iron vs. driver you may enjoy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5-UmJ2Nh7t1d9U kzbin.info/www/bejne/invXqWCni7iajLc Hope these help! :)
@russquick78993 жыл бұрын
Interesting concept Eric. Great sense of connection and pace. Stay safe-Russ
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it, Russ!
@rickjohnson467 ай бұрын
One of your best topics
@CogornoGolf7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@OrvinReyes2 жыл бұрын
that tax bill analogy got me roflmao 😂 love this! best lesson for me out of ALL of them!
@CogornoGolf2 жыл бұрын
:)
@loubuth8323 жыл бұрын
OUTSTANDING Job Guys...THE best lesson on this trail shoulder component of the downswing I’ve ever seen! Just one question, can u talk a little more to the ‘out’ portion of this move?
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Lou! Sure thing---will do more moving forward!
@lenardtan71692 жыл бұрын
Great tips about this shoulder down
@CogornoGolf2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lenard!
@joseserranosuner3 жыл бұрын
So if I understand correctly the 3 components are: Down = Tilt = right shoulder bend (squeezing your right shoulder close to your right hip). Out = panning your right shoulder horizontally Forward = shifting your right torso and shoulder ahead of the ball => shaft lean Right??
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
Thats fair! The down is the side bend The OUT (and forward) is MAINLY from rotation. Involved in the forward will also be some lateral shift of body. DOWN AND FORWARD is the main part from side bend and rotation....the OUT will happen by itself
@condition189 Жыл бұрын
its really work for me, thanks a lot.
@CogornoGolf Жыл бұрын
Love to hear it my friend! Appreciate you watching!
@Rd-bi7vr9 ай бұрын
What we do in the backswing is mirrored in the downswing as far as bends and tilts
@CogornoGolf8 ай бұрын
More or less yep....
@hansidelk6604 Жыл бұрын
I have been trying to get more sidebend in the downswing, but often that leads to shanks, if you have to guess what do you think is the cause of that? Losing hip depth? Ive never struggled with early extension btw.
@CogornoGolf Жыл бұрын
Would need to see to say for sure...I would make sure 1. Hand path is moving left enough through impact 2. Ribcage/chest is rotating open enough 3. Weight to left heel not toes 4. Add object outside of the ball if needed clubbed likely getting too far outside the ball target line bc of one of those Some vids on shanks may help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGnHpn6ZlNGWhrM&pp=ygUSRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIHNoYW5r kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHSQlYmDjcqbp7M&pp=ygUSRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIHNoYW5r
@thechumpenify3 жыл бұрын
Good drill and really highlights where you should be, but also where my level of flexibility makes it very difficult to be. More mobility work needed!
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@ryrodrums67273 жыл бұрын
Oh man.. the guy behind you on the replay's needs some helllllp
@dansapp66193 жыл бұрын
would you say this is how you deliver the club to the ball? im asking if you simply set the club up by the right shoulder, leave it there, and then use this motion to rotate the body with right shoulder through the ball, without any other manipulations?
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
Hey Dan! That would be nice but unfortunately the REAL answer is NO. Someone may FEEL that but in reality its not that simple. There is a lot going on with arms/hands as well.
@chestermicek3 жыл бұрын
So, Eric, wouldn't this down and out motion happen naturally if you set the clubhead to the ball at the outside of the quarter of the clubhead? Meaning, you'd have to go down & out to hit the ball with the center of the club face.
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
Hey Chester! Id you have a look at the normal public driving range or first tee you will see very little "natural" good things in amateur players :) Wish it were all easier!
@jakeallen4762 жыл бұрын
I love this feel for short irons but struggle when it comes to driver and long irons with trail shoulder down. Is it possible im holding onto my angles too long? (specifically trail wrist) The miss is pretty thin and topped.
@CogornoGolf2 жыл бұрын
Could for sure.....head should be more back with driver kzbin.info/www/bejne/invXqWCni7iajLc
@davecohn64073 жыл бұрын
I do not know how much the right shoulder goes down , but it needs to reverse any left sided bend that you supposedly created at the top plus adding right sided lateral bend bend that you are demonstrating here. This is an extreme amount of lateral side bend movement between the top and the time when the right arm approaches the lower downswing..One of these movements is incorrect, either left lateral bend at the top or right lateral bend in the lower downswing .
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
Hey Dave! Yep a bit exaggerated with drill. They are both correct. No getting around that. To keep your torso same distance from the ground you must side bend/tilt. Start in forward bend. Left side bend in backswing (left shoulder down) Right side bend in downswing (right shoulder down) No other way to do it and maintain your inclination to the ground
@trevyt75393 жыл бұрын
Would this be a good drill for someone that has early extension to help stay down?
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@TIMMURPHYCOACHING Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@CogornoGolf Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Tim!
@barryu487121 күн бұрын
Side bend + repetitive rotation = shear force on the spine. How can we avoid over doing it?
@CogornoGolf21 күн бұрын
I think the reality is it's a give and take....side bend and rotation is necessary to play well....and just not great for your back.
@carlor.s.47423 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking that I want to get my right shoulder down & forward, but I'm also thinking that I don't want to get my right elbow forward as I do this, but I want to keep my right elbow in close to my hip. Make sense?
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
You want right arm/elbow to move forward. How much and when? Here are some checkpoints kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZSaZYlmiNl2oas kzbin.info/www/bejne/eandh3yjbbV8pKc
@tommiekinz Жыл бұрын
I dont see link for 7 day free trial
@CogornoGolf Жыл бұрын
Hey Tommie, Sorry for any confusion here! We are no longer offering a free trial, but we have discounted our membership prices! Learn more and sign up here! www.cogornogolf.com
@javiervigil25112 жыл бұрын
That guy in the background looks like he could use some help, he was getting frustrated😁 been there👍
@davidjackson7051 Жыл бұрын
The golf swing has to be automatic its to fast a motion to be manipulated the only control we have is set up to the ball and one piece takeaway for most golfers I've struggled with manipulation and the only thing I've found is keep it simple and smooth
@CogornoGolf Жыл бұрын
If that's all you have to think to play great, that's fantastic!
@janclaussen25043 жыл бұрын
Well be times at You Tube a request, that only your Videos will be published !!
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
Lol :)
@craigconnor3243 жыл бұрын
Does this apply to pitches and chips as well? Thank you.
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
Less
@craigconnor3243 жыл бұрын
@@CogornoGolf less or yes?? Sorry for the confusion
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
less :)
@ZeebNinja3 жыл бұрын
way too confusing :(
@CogornoGolf3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! Sorry about that!
@johnnysanchez49962 жыл бұрын
Do what they were talking about at the end. Set your right wrist angle, palm facings the ground on the takeaway, do a half swing while keeping that right wrist angle and a slighting bent right arm and hit shots without releasing those angles. You’ll be force to drop the right shoulder to get to the ball.