DUDEK HADRON 3 review - A GAME CHANGER

[@PARANOOB]

This should set the standard for wing reviews.. Fun stuff up front, geeky stuff to follow. Excellent content mate, really good stuff. 👍👍👍

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Not sure its a standard, but it's all the things that interest me.

[@nur5ey1]

Absolutely Paul, we understand that it's a very subjective issue when aspects of reviews or first impressions are taken into consideration, but with this specific style of video by Giles you get very much more objective view.. Well done that man!! Great work..

[@MitchG]

Very nice!!! Thank you for the 3rd person view! It tells me so much about the wing. Great job on the review. Very informative. Cant wait to fly one

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Thanks Mitch. I need to get all the data and figures on the next flight. I'll be filling the tank and going to a few hours.

[@Tommyflies]

Nice one Giles!!! I was pumped for this wing. I was hoping it would be a bit better in the launch, but overall it looks awesome. Can't wait to fly one.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Yes, the launch is still fickle, (No freeride) but I'll take that hit for the way it handles in the air. Pack my bags, load up set course and go paracamping....I can't wait.

[@nur5ey1]

As we know though Tom, most wings have their very special small launch techniques that we all get used to after a few launches, and make look easy once we are familiar with them..looks an amazing wing regardless..😉😊

[@maximlg253]

Nice review! Can't wait for part 2. Especially interested in airspeed (trims in/out/speedbar) and fuel consumption compared to Hadron XX. My HXX is a fine XC machine and I don't even get much of oscillations (unless air is rowdy) but it surely feels busy and catches every bump.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Thank you Max, and yes, the geeky bit will be next time. I have the feeling (even the manual says its 4 kph slow at the top end) that its not going to be as fast but xc wings are not all about speed, its comfort and distance covered for fuel used. At the moment, its fitting that bill very well, bring on the weather and lets see what happens.

[@roscografik]

Nice video, thanks for showing all the launches, even if they're not perfect but this is extra to see the wing in real conditions !

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I'd rather be honest in a video and show all the facets of a wing, than make it sound like the wing is AMAZING. I'm not the most skilled pilot, I just love flying. This wing is a real game changer, even if its not the fastest wing on the world, it will make xc flying less tiring and more enjoyable.

[@DanielJonesParamotor]

Absolutely fantastic review Giles, you covered loads here and can’t wait for the numbers videos. The Hadron 3 looks so so stable above your head, would live to fly one!

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

It's a great wing in the right hands. Its a few wings away for you yet..lol you know that. Don't rush the journey.

[@paramotorhead]

Great fun, nicely done Giles. Thanks for the review, I look forward to part 2.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Cheers Scott, Me too. I need to wait for the weather now. Can't wait to catch up at a Winglands Bash.

[@AZC1949]

Congratulations on your new wing, Giles. I'm glad it makes you happy and hope it continues to do so.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Thank you.

[@vauxscott]

What a wing! Great review Giles, can tell you really really love it!

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

You'll be wanting one soon. Your WARP is probably faster.

[@WiltshireMan]

Great first impressions Giles. I'm still flying my Uni 1.1 which is quite hard to roll. It will be interesting to see how the fuel economy works out

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I have enough load left to carry camping kit.

[@AndySV1K]

That's a lovely looking wing, really nice design. Looking forward to seeing more of it.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Andy, yes, the design is fantastic. Can't wait to get the clan all back together.

[@mattkora]

Hey Giles! I love the way you structured this review. What a beautiful wing.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Thanks Matt, you know me, I like to put a little structure behind my activities. How is the knee coming along?

[@mattkora]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 You sure do. The knee is doing very well. I had my operation 2 weeks ago and I'm on the mend. I also built a trike so I should be able to fly in a few weeks. Hopefully I'll see you at the fly in.

[@ripmanridin7092]

Nice review Giles........sounds like just what I am looking for!

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I'm certainly really pleased with it.

[@jamespearce1262]

Nice review Giles . Can't wait for mine to arrive now 😊 seems like ages away still

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I hope you like yours as much as I do mine. It is a real game changer.

[@jamespearce1262]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 i am sure i will , have a few trips planned already 😊

[@clippedwing-bensmith1614]

Great stuff Giles! I get the feeling you enjoyed that! I hope it can fly a little slower for when we get some flights in together! I'm definitely not seasoned enough to even looking at one, but it gets me excited to see what is out there! Beautiful colours too!

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

You are joining a sport where these wings are now available, tested and safe. Back in the day, high performance wing were generally an unknown quantity. Enjoy the journey and don't rush the learning curve.

[@alwatt9367]

Great review so interesting nice airfield very jealous..I must tell you Giles I once filmed para gliding for a TV prog.. The electrician was running in front of the pilot helping him get in the air going down hill.. I stopped filming as the electrician was holding his back, I put the camera on the ground fast. and I rushed to help him.... I thought he had pulled his back out.....Only to find his shorts and underpants were falling down and he was trying to pull them up while running...al

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Thank you. I'm very lucky to be able to fly from this site.

[@GregAnthonyHarris]

Really comprehensive review! Loved it!

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Glad you liked it.

[@thedanielkaye]

Really enjoyed that Giles! Looks like a cracking wing...

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I can't wait to get back out flying again. I haven't had a feeling about a wing in a long time.

[@omercohn4184]

Nice interesting review, thank you. I'm a XX 22 pilot myself looking now for either Hadron 3 or Ozone Speedster 3. Any chance you could find one to make a comparison video for those?

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to do any more testing like I did in this video. Both the H3 and S3 will be significantly more stable and hands off then the XX22 from my experience and chatting to current S3 pilots. I hope that helps.

[@Bexxy]

Nice wing review Giles. Looking forwards to the follow up and how it compares XC to your other Hadron.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Andy, me too, we just need the weather now.

[@Chris-Fennimore]

Nice comparison! 👍😎👍

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I hope it helped.

[@jeremytyer2996]

How does this compare to the freeride in your opinion? Which would you rather fly for regular weather cross country?

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

That's a really good question. For XC, it's a really easy answer, the Hadron 3 and for the following reasons: it's ability to make flying in a straight line with no pilot input, it's very fuel efficient. It's not the fastest, but xc flying is not about speed but getting to. Your destination by using the right amount of fuel. The freeride was very thursty, but esy to launch, but is trade the easy launch for an effortless long flight. I hope that helps.

[@RASPUK]

Awesome vid Giles, I like the new tip steering handles :)

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Paul, yes, they are quite good and very simple. It makes the risers so clean now.

[@wayne.b2798]

Great job Giles , i like the brakes and tip line but on a high hang point at full trim this might be a problem , is this the way that dudek are going with all new wings in the tip steering ? .

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Wayne, you can lower the position, there is space on the rear riser so you can still reach it. Not sure if this is the way they are going as this is the only wing to have it and it just come out. It works though. I'll get back to winglands at some point, just wish it wasn't so far away.

[@wayne.b2798]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXyceH2obpeWedE This is a great video on the new brake lines on 2 of dudek wings .

[@chamales3]

Nice. Favorite part was the giggles of joy.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Clint, I'm only human after all. If we can't have fun and share that joy, what do we have left. I hope your motor is fixed now?

[@CXhaust]

Giles, is there any amount of side-to-side oscillation in level flight with the H3, any at all?

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Nope, I try and show that in the video. Even with full bar. Can you see any?

[@CXhaust]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 I don`t see any. Dou you get slight oscillation with your XX - requiring frequent damping to stop it?

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

@@CXhaust Oh yes.....on the XX. The H3 is suberb and completely different and I'm so glad I bought it. I've been flying it in thermic midday conditions recently, its wonderful, just punches in and out of thermals. Its still going to feel the lift and follow the air currents but thats all. No unwanted oscillations.

[@CXhaust]

Just waiting for the stats, then....

[@kyleoglee]

I got a chub now.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Thanks KyleO, those are words I thought I never read from you. Still made me laugh.

[@MegaZsele]

Nice video very informative. Just can i ask what's is your take off weight (bodyweight may)? Thanks

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Thank you, I do try and make useful content, not just entertainment. My body weight is or was just under 80kgs when this was filmed, flying weight was 118kgs. I hope that helps.

[@MegaZsele]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 Thank you, Soft landings😉

[@brianvisser5546]

Very nice review Giles! Thank you for sharing. Have you tried any no wind launches yet?

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I had 2 that were very very light the evening after, and it still the same, just keep in the A's, and keep moving forward and use the power, and run like the wind. I can't wait to get back out flying it again.

[@therealeugenecussons]

Uhmmm...all very interesting. I think it might have the new ADT tech in hence why you might have found the launch difficult trims closed. May I suggest something for pure academic purposes. Close the trims all the way (in contrast to the manual) Then use a hard “bump” the get it up. Hold the risers forward till gets to 12 even with throttle up. We NEED to know if it can counter the wind direction and not oscillate or yaw into dominant wind direction. Both the Solo and Warp can do it SOooo EASY. The trim setting on 3 is for the easy takeoff but then you need to be into the headwind as the manual says. This is a new breed and I cant see why they would pass up on the ADT (Any Direction Takeoff) tech. You beat me on the review for this glider but its because I’m really focused on the Warp as the ultimate glider. I’m depending on your further tests bud! Great video. Great info on stability. Also please check the climb rate at ft/min. The Warp is pinned at 750 even past 10 000ft. Love to know the new Haddy’s (even though not all variables are equal...engine, hp, prop etc)

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Thanks Eugene, means a lot coming from you. The wind was so variable. I just need more time on the wing. I only had the trims closed on the first ever inflation and that wasn't on camera. I'll try the ADT when I can, I don't want to break my new baby ;)...It did counter the wind quite easily, lauching off wind seemed to happen all the time as it was backing and verring all the time. I'm happy to learn new things. We just need the weather. I'm glad you liked the video. I think this is more like the old WRC, it doesn't climb quickly, just gets going. I'll have my Vario/GPS system next time.

[@r11kyomcallan38]

Nice....got my 20m on order....my 1st Dudek after several Ozone wings....

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

do launch a little differently but once you understand why, the wing is absolutely fantastic. If I wasn't planning on carrying so much kit in the future I would have gone for the 20.

[@r11kyomcallan38]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 Yes....2 x Parachums have gotten one each recently, Rab on an 18 & Gordon on a 22...99% of the time they snap them up, jag the breaks to settle and throttle up & away....we had a wee overnight camper-van BBQ a few weekends ago and we all got a few flights, they did fluff a launch each and both times it looked to be a 1 sec too long a pause just as it crowned and the wing un-settled....mine due end of Sep....I plan a day of repetitive launch-lands practice try and lock t in...I have an old 22m Slalom I throw up on occasions....I'm used to that coming in fast, Ive perfected my damp grass foot slide landing on that...lol

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

@@r11kyomcallan38 I'm really good friends Rab.. Small world.

[@r11kyomcallan38]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 Yes...he mentioned you and that you had reviewed the wing....I only hang out with him cos he is O Neg...always handy to have one on the field...

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

@@r11kyomcallan38 haha, that's brilliant..

[@turkeyphant]

How much experience should you have before flying this wing?

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Jon, the book/dudek recommended 200 hours and have flown reflex and intermediate wings.

[@LeoFPV]

How you resisted opening that box for 4 days I'll never know haha. Great video mate

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Cheers Leo, it was hard, but so worth it.

[@parapilot09]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 I don't believe you. I reckon you had a quick peek and maybe even slept with her before resealing the box, before taking it out to make the unboxing video. That non-manufacturer sellotape came off way too easy!! You can't fool us Giles! haha

[@natural9743]

Great review of a great wing-i luv the way the pressure of the brakes stays constant until flare.Could this classified as a high end B??

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I really did like that part of the wing. I can't comment on the EN classification as its not been tested but from the way it responds, its higher than a B, high C at least. Dudek have given an hours recommendation, 200 hours, 3 seasons and 80 hours a year, I hope that helps.

[@natural9743]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 Thankyou!

[@BrianTurboT]

Luvly Jubly ... waiting for the geeky next episode now ;-)

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Cheers Brian. I'll be extra geeky just for you.

[@BrianTurboT]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 ... Excellent 😆

[@SharkyintheSky]

Nice review. Thanks for showing the riser differences XX vs Hadron 3. Would you suggest this wing for a 60 hour pilot's second wing?

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I'm guessing you didn't quite get to the end, I talk about this point. 200 hours, 3 seasons and flying 80 hours a year is Dudek's recommendation.

[@robertcameron6500]

Nice review Giles, looking forward to the geeky numbers tho to see how efficient it is compared to the old faithful Hadron XX..! You mentioned about the stiffening rods at the trailing edge of the wing, do you think this wing can still be loosely packed in the quick pack bag or is it a concertina packing job...?

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I stuff sack mine all the time with no issues. Its just making sure they don't get bent too hard. It came packed in 3rds which I thought was unusual, nut now I know why.

[@abbott876]

Great review, what a beauty!

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I can't wait to fly it again, I just need the weather now.

[@chrsfrwll]

Nicely reviewed. Be a while before I fly a wing like this but enjoyed watching nonetheless

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Glad you liked it Chris. Hope to catch up at a fly-in later this year.

[@drewwiard5581]

Fantastic review. Thank you!

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

The data in the other video really shows that flying at full trim really isn't necessary.

[@drewwiard5581]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 yeah, I watched that video as well and it's brilliant! I would not have come to the same conclusion just guessing without having seen the data. Regardless, my new wing should be here in less than a week! 🤙

[@gsp2west]

Have you flown the Warp 20? If yes, how does the H3 compare? Nice video.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Yes, I have flown the Warp, 20, but that was a few years ago. Without flying them back to back its hard to compare. They are however designed for different things. The WARP is a Competition wing, the H3 is Pure XC. I need more time on the H3, but I'm loving it already. The WARP is a 300 hour wing, the H3 is only 200..according to Dudek.

[@LoLifeFPV]

Love that glider! 👍

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

It just felt so comfortable, yet playful to fly Todd. I hope you are still misbehaving ;)

[@dogofwisdom7945]

What is your all up weight?

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I'm 120kgs with 8 litres of fuel . I went for the 22 so I could carry extra bags for camping. I hope that helps.

[@dogofwisdom7945]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 Yes. This is most likely going to be my next wing. Thanks for the Review. I am about 120-123 depending on Fuel so I am trying to decide which size. This is probably the heaviest I will be though.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

@@dogofwisdom7945 The weight ranges are lower so don't go too small. I'm glad I went for the 22, the launches were fast enough.

[@fabriziotieghi9342]

Hi. I love your tests. Have you planned to test fly Dudek Solo? :) Greetings from Italy

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Thank you. I would like to test the Solo, but I can't afford to buy one to test. Its hard to get wings on loan, but I am trying.

[@rickardjonsson4526]

If you ever get your hands on a nucleon4, please do something like this

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I wish I could but I have kind of stopped paramotoring as my Peabee has really taken over my flying. It was a good review format but unfortunately pilots tend to like feel and wing wanging as the benchmark of a wing as apposed to real world responses.

[@rickardjonsson4526]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 oh okey. It would be interesting to hear you talk a bit about why that happened and what benefits you see in the peabee over ppg.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Strange you say that, I made a video on that very topic last year, currently has 88,000 views. 😁. I have just videoed a follow up only last weekend.

[@rickardjonsson4526]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 yeah ive seen that one but as i recall it you were doing both back then, now that youve done the switch 100% i figured you might have more to say, maby found new benefits on the prabee etc😊

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

It was more down to time really. I enjoyed both, but when it was light conditions I preferred the PeaBee as it's a simple take off. When it was windier, the PeaBee again. The more I flew the PEABEE, even in rough conditions, I just felt more comfortable, could fly further and in more comfort. It's still got limitations in terms portability and storage but I can balance them against the joy I get from flying it.

[@flyingkub]

Normally slightly bigger Big Ears will reduce the pressure needed. Great video.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Thanks Algy. With modern wings the shark nose generates quite high internal pressures coupled with the cross-port venting, the tips are really hard to break out. With me being short person, I couldn't quite get high enough up the line to make it break out. I'll try harder next time ;)

[@flyingkub]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 I do find that on my Gin paraglider small is hard and pops out very fast just the extra 5cm out and they are easy to hold and far more controlled when you let them out.

[@adibabi]

Sounds like a bloody good "only 1" wing.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

It's a perfect XC wing, It kind of reminded me of my old Nuc WRC that just sat there above my head all day long.

[@adibabi]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 will be interesting to see how the speedster 3 compares when it's released

[@dogofwisdom7945]

@@adibabi Unless ozone completely changes the parameters of the speedster wing they are not even close to the same class of wing.

[@adibabi]

@@dogofwisdom7945 agreed. But from what I hear they really intend to sharpen the speedster 3 up. Should be released this month 😃

[@dogofwisdom7945]

@@adibabi 10-4. I have always thought Ozone had a big hole between Speedster and the Freeride. They do need something in between for efficient XC. I had a speedster 22 for a short time but I couldn't justify having in addition to my universal since it is just as fast and efficient. Although the speedster would have had a faster top end on bar. Universal launches a little easier. I did enjoy the 2D steering and other features of the wing.

[@flexmaniac]

Looks like fun!

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

The other side of my flying passion Andy.

[@flexmaniac]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 The portability of the paraglider/motor is quite appealing!

[@patrickmckowen2999]

Great review 👍 Cheers

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Thanks Patrick.

[@ravenandrantin8333]

PART 2 now!

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I need the weather, its been raining and blowing 20 mph in the UK! It might take a few weeks to get all the data together.

[@ravenandrantin8333]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 10-4

[@flyskiride]

Very interesting too advanced for me but it sounds a like a great wing

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I'm really quite smitten with it. thanks for watching.

[@FlyBabyFlyPPG]

thank you Fly Baby Fly

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

And it flies so well.

[@paulpage3274]

I want one ☝️

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

If you fit the bill, I'm sure you can get one.

[@paulpage3274]

Need to try before I buy