Gone with the Wind: The Normalization of White Supremacist Propaganda | Cheyenne Lin

Here are all the reason why Gone with theWind should be put away. This video is the third and final entry, for now, in my mini series about anti-Blackness in the U.S.
For those of you who don’t know, Gone with the Wind is a movie from 1939, that I think still holds the record for highest grossing movie ever, when adjusted for inflation?
It’s based on a book of the same name by Margaret Mitchell from 1936, and it was so popular the movie adaptation only came out 3 years later.
The movie takes place before, during, and after the Civil War. It centers around the O’Hara family who live in the confederate south, and all they want to do is defeat the yankees in order to keep their slaves.
At the helm of the family is Scarlett O’Hara, who does everything and anything necessary to survive after the south ends up losing the war and she in turn loses her wealth and status.
The film is 3 hours long and details decades of Scarlett’s life. From when she’s a young teen looking to be wed, to after the war as a widow,
and to her eventual marriage to longtime sweet heart Rhett Butler, who eventually leaves her due to her shrewdness, but not before raping her.
And throughout all of this, the “peculiar institution” of slavery - hangs in the background like window dressing.
The Black actors in the film - Hattie McDaniel, Butterfly McQueen, Oscar Polk, and Everett Brown play the roles of Scarlett’s slaves.
And of course, they’re quite happy being enslaved.
Mammy - portrayed by Hattie McDaniel - is the “Black best friend” character, who’s of course also maternal and loving. We never learn about her life or her family or anything else about her.
Butterfly McQueen plays Prissy, who was written to say an incredibly offensive line about not knowing anything about childbirth.
When we all know that Black women most definitely knew what to do in childbirth considering the real life sexual violence they faced.
Which, by the way, was already well known at this point, as Black memoirs have existed since slavery, but white Hollywood didn’t and sitll doesnt’ give a shit about that.
Next there’s Pork played by Oscar Polk who stays with Scarlett even after the Civil War. And this wasn’t uncommon, as most former slaves didn’t really have anything after they were free.
They most certainly weren’t paid reparations.
But the movie frames it as if he wants to be there to help his former master out...as if they’re friends or equals or something.
Lastly, there’s Big Sam played by Everett Brown who saves Scarlett from some yankee bandits.
This scene always perplexed me because it is nice to see an old movie portray a Black man as heroic, but at the same time he saves her because she was a ‘good slave owner’, which she most certainly was not.
Besides the portrayal of enslaved people, the movie goes out of its way to have the audience feel bad for the confederacy and sympathize with their plight - which was to keep people in bondage.
Most people in the U.S. and outside of it don’t know how much the Civil War meant for the south. They really really wanted to keep Black people in chains.
Decades after the Civil War, during the early 1900s, Civil War monuments to slave owners popped up around the country, donated by the daughters and sons of the confederacy. The U.S. navy still flies the confederate flag.
And the confederate flag is sewn into a lot of southern state flags to this day.
It’s a symbol of white supremacy and needs to be archived away, much like this movie.
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Intro: 0:00
Part 1 What is Gone with the Wind? 0:53
Part 2 The Normalization of White Supremacist Propoganda 4:22
- How does Gone with the Wind hold up white supremacy? 5:19
-How the movie romanticizes the confederacy. 5:59
Part 3: What happened to Hattie McDaniel? 7:23
Conclusion 9:09
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TIMESTAMPS: Intro: 0:00 Part 1 What is Gone with the Wind? 0:53 Part 2 The Normalization of White Supremacist Propoganda 4:22 - How does Gone with the Wind hold up white supremacy? 5:19 -How the movie romanticizes the confederacy. 5:59 Part 3: What happened to Hattie McDaniel? 7:23 Conclusion 9:09

[@spittingame4241]

Can you speak about black face in anime, please. I stopped watching anime a long time ago because of the offensive images they portray on black people.

[@hopeslover6778]

i just wanna thank you for captions every time, my listening comprehension isn’t always so good! your videos are so well thought out and i always learn something new!

[@mekman4]

Thank you

[@SynIMPFML666]

@@spittingame4241 I used to want to get into comics because I noticed that from a young age. It inspired me to make a hero inclusive to what I felt was missing as a person of color

[@longiusaescius2537]

Remember when #stopAsianhate trend got memoryholed? Pepperidge farm remembers...

[@PenguinArmy413]

Present update: I live in Mississippi right now, and we recently changed the state flag to be a magnolia blossom instead of having the Confederate symbol on it. This was done due to an overwhelming majority vote in November in favor of replacing the flag, so there is a little positivity.

[@montbrink4700]

Is it most of Mississippi population or damn near half black people??? my question is what's the percentage of black people in Mississippi

[@cozie-mango]

@@montbrink4700 yeah like 38% compared a white population of like 52% i think

[@ambriaashley3383]

It's a little positive. Incredibly sad that it took so long and took a global racial reckoning to change it (not to mention all the citizens still against the change), but it is something.

[@CreativaArtly]

Mississippi dweller here too and yep.

[@cpace7680]

I’m from MS and I give less than a half ounce of FUCK about a flag…there needs to be a changing of people’s hearts/actions

[@noirerequiemii101]

Its's always fascinating to hear that these sorts of thing are even shown in America, let alone in a positive light

[@CheyenneLin]

Thanks for commenting!! Yeah I think it’s important to spread awareness about how terrible the American education system is.

[@starspeculation]

Honestly, _Gone With The Wind_ is the only time I've seen American slave owners portrayed sympathically. Usually the Confederates and slave owners are the bad guys in movies. The one time I think a movie shook up the dynamic was with _Glory_ (at least I think it was Glory) because even though the main characters were Union soldiers, all ot of the people in the Union army were racist toward black soldiers and terrorized Confederate civilians.

[@gabbyb9418]

@@starspeculation unfortunately there are still a lot of movies that glorify the south and the confederacy. Most of the time, if you're not their demographic, you won't even know they exist, but they do :/

[@yannareads3492]

@@gabbyb9418 Yea and alot of them are from the 50s

[@kieranstark7213]

@@CheyenneLin There’s never such thing as a “good slave master” in any way whatsoever. Which is why whether people love or hate Gone With the Wind (it’s definitely not great, maybe not even good, more on that later, more people n that later, but I at least think it’s a step-up from the book, but it’s still problematic, even by the lowest standards of the 1930s even though it was ending with the GWTW movie on mid-December 1939 along with the Gulliver’s Travels animation which while it decent (especially compared to the 2010 version starring Bowser Koopa as the main character), it tried way too hard to be Snow White and the Seven Dwarves as proven in one of AniMat’s most recent classic reviews on GT39), we all have to admit, that because like The Birth of a Nation, Bayformers and the rest of Nickelodeon (which was a word even before N’s existence according to the Birth of a Nation (the so-called “game changer” for cinema, not the 2016 version a whole century later… sigh) page on Greatest Movies Wiki, it does have racist stereotypes, so it’s objectively problematic.

[@AllyAlwaysBAwesome]

I'm of the mind that this film needs a lengthy disclaimer attached if it ever gets a re-release again, as a lover of old film and history this movie is so conflicting for me one one hand the movie was beautifully shot on the other hand it glorified the antebellum south and I just can't smear over that fact. It's incredibly trash to rewrite history to ease the guilt of oppressor.

[@elizabethlee2136]

Not to be that person, but you might have to read the book to make it clear it is deeply against Civil War Apologia. From the trashy main characters who in universe lost ill-gotten fortunes and had to rebuild their criminal empires, to the elegaic funerary quality of the settings and locals, that it is a vicious takedown of This era of America history. That there is no moral imperative but the ability to survive and rebuild. That from the Haitian Revolution, to the Cromwells destroying Ireland, Indian Massacre and the constant pointless obsession over the confederacy that all the tenets that were supposed to define this era. Even the Abolitionist cause is literally just a front. And how when you are raised in an atmosphere where you don't question society, most people aren't able to psychologically cope. Like Scarletts pointless love for Ashley it is based on Hollow ideals. The only solution is to find happiness and face reality. Even if its sad and poignant to you, more likely them not, there is a reason it died. While Melanie's good nature and Ashley's idealism are examples Melanie dies as only a memory, and Shley is a phoney poster. And Scarlett chasing the past and refusal to face reality misses her one chance at happiness. But because she's alive, despite her being the worst person, might have the second chance Mother and Gerard O hard and even Rhett Never had. Scarletts family are miserable criminals but that didn't mean that they were bereft of humanity, and history is not simple. Terrible people are often shaped by the ridiculous worldview they are born into... like how Scarlet is unable to survive without a pretty dress, and then instead of having slaves, enslaves and abuses her employees and get two of her husband's killed. So of course Scarlets view are as terrible and misguided as she is. She literally thinks women can't be raped, so you shouldn't trust a rape victims testimony, only to be on the verge of sexual assault a few chapters after. It's a wild book with the most unreliable narrative

[@kitten4790]

I saw Gone With the Wind on HBO (the film was in the 'Last Chance to watch' section) and that film came with a disclaimer and brief history of the film by a black historian I believe. I too love old films and the movie is beautifully shot, the outfits were as close to historical accuracy as possible but how the movie glorified the antebellum South was so awful.

[@jennymunday7913]

Yeah, Scarlett is a very unreliable narrator, which makes the movie (shot from her personal perspective) and its nostalgia for that era about her shallowness and self-absorption. It's a book/movie about horrible people who do horrible things and think they're the hero the whole time. Unfortunately, the racist movie studios of the time leaned into the "they're the hero" part. I think the only genuinely good white person is Melanie and even she's not great since she is happy to live off the fruits of enslaved labor. Scarlett and Rhett both scheme to fulfill their own self-interests without a single care to who they hurt. Ashley is content to have an emotional affair with Scarlett his entire marriage to Melanie and is genuinely a weak person who refuses to do the right thing at any point. He's so pathetic that even Scarlett ends up not caring about him after spending basically the entire movie doing whatever it takes to be with him. I don't know if Margaret Mitchell meant for the book to be about any of this, because the entire book is problematic in its way, but the way the enslaved people (again through Scarletts eyes) are portrayed is pretty yikes. Maybe she knew Scarlett was hideous and realized her (Margarets) upbringing was further perpetuating racism and wanted to subvert it by showing someone is just so self-assured and certain of themselves and was also just a really horrible human being.

[@sparklingdaisy3169]

@@elizabethlee2136 Just because you read the book and that's how YOU interpreted the information doesn't mean that the antebellum south and slavery wasn't romanticized. Also don't start a sentence with "I dont want to be that person" while trying to undermine a black person experience because you sound ignorant and discriminatory.

[@hexicast4539]

I remember my very white and very old US history teacher showing us this film at the end of the year to avoid giving us any work but he was VERY much a "please don't be stupid and fall for the romance of this propaganda filled film" type . he wanted us to see it because of its history ,, but he would also drop subtle hints at the fact that the confederacy was being very romanticized and even mentioned at one point that the only reason slaves would stay and help their former masters was because they had nowhere else to go or couldn't get any real jobs because of their former slave status . obv some students just saw it as a pretty old movie with a lot of pretty dresses and romance and the teacher was very upset that some kids just missed the point of him playing the movie but it was the final few days of school before we all moved onto high school so I think that's why he never bothered to just outright say that all the main characters are racists and would probably have enslaved half of our class (we were a mostly hispanic and black school)

[@jntaborski]

I read the book a few years ago and it's crazy. One of the slaves (I can't remember their name) said they loved slavery! Not surprising seeing as the person who wrote the book thought the south won the war until she was 13.

[@ethancox9737]

How did she believe that?

[@serenitymoon825]

@@ethancox9737 I believed that America invented cars from when I was 9 until I was 15. We're taught complete lies in school, I wouldn't be surprised if the author had been taught that.

[@ethancox9737]

@@serenitymoon825 Wow, got it.

[@soobindoll9561]

@@ethancox9737I mean her Grandma was basically feeding her lies.

[@PhoneHalHome]

I remember a young black woman in college who said she loves the movie, but acknowledged the movie for what it is. She once went to a screening and said she was the only black person in that theater.

[@valiizajames925]

I watched "Gone with the Wind for the first time a few years ago, and as a Black woman it was hard to watch...great movie, but I could see how it was used to desensitize the masses...to make them feel like we are "good white folks" and where the confusion still exists today!!

[@kirika20]

There are some "good white folks" remember who abolished slavery in America? white people.

[@spaceface320]

I have also seen the movie and own the book. One thing I will say is that GWTW is really good at portraying how white people thought about themselves owning slaves i.e the good masters, the “I would have freed them if the civil war hadn’t done so”, the inviting Mammy, and Prissy, and Pork to live with Scarlett when she married Rhett. The story is already biased to favor white enslavers, even if the storytelling or the characters (mostly the main ones, however) are very well developed. This novel and move is a critical piece to view and deconstruct because it is emblematic on how the south is trying to memorialize their own past, when the reality was far different for everyone who was not an enslaver. I would even go so far as to say it’s trying to make some white people feel not as guilty as how they or their ancestors treated black people, by only romanticizing the antebellum through the story of one woman who was a “good mistress” and experiencing her hardships, at the exclusion of others’ suffering and survival. And by the same hand, the romanticism of one woman’s life further cements the “lost cause narrative” about how the North robbed them of their “peaceful existence”, again ignoring that their “peaceful existence” came at the cost of others lives

[@ladylover1134]

@@kirika20 they abolished slavery after an extensive war in which black people fought for their lives. its funny how you think white folk were "so generous as to offer slaves their freedom" when they shouldnt have even had slaves in the first place.

[@gabbyb9418]

@@kirika20 wow your comment made my skin crawl. What a gross, terrible thing to say. We need to stop policing how PoC speak on their experiences without going "NU UH". You haven't made a point, but you did manage to show your lack of developed, adult empathy. Congrats on that. I guess.

[@RC.-]

@@kirika20 You do realize black people also fought and lost their lives right? Also the North didn’t end slavery because of “freedom” or “too be good” they only did it because they didn’t have agriculture for slaves to pick. Even though slavery was abolished white people still discriminated against black people. The Jim Crow laws didn’t end until 1965. Someone failed history.

[@writer747]

I swear this movie is the reason why my mom brings up "but there were some good slave owners" every time I try to talk about the confederacy

[@meepmoop2308]

@@krimsonkatt YES. the founding fathers were hypocrites(those who owned slaves anyways). all that talk about liberty means nothing to people like me who wouldve been oppressed in their times, but at least they gave us the legal framework for civil rights activists to earn us real equality. how do you think it feels looking at glorifying statues of these slave owners, knowing they wouldve had me under their boot? they belong in museums. any sort of slavery goes directly against everything america stands for, even if its the founding fathers doing it... our national heroes are hypocrites.

[@candicefrost4561]

So….enslaving people is good in certain circumstances? If you are an enslaver, you are a bad person.

[@Z-ManTheOriginal]

Hattie McDaniel was extremely talented even still she earned that funky oscar. Allowed to only do so much she worked with what she had.

[@ambriaashley3383]

Yeah. The Oscar was completely performative. She wasn't even allowed to sit at the same table as her cast during the Oscar show 😒

[@cartoonlover4479]

Clark Gable defended her

[@sophiatalksmusic3588]

Do you think it's possible that Hattie McDaniels' Oscar could have been a sort of backhanded award? So, not just for Hollywood to say "see, we're not racist; we're giving a black actress an award," but also for them to communicate a view that black actresses should only play maid/servant/enslaved (depending on the film) roles? To me, it sounds like the gesture could be interpreted as, "she was really visible in this role, so by giving her an Oscar for it, other black actresses will be discouraged from pursuing other acting roles outside of this typecast." If that's the case, that's despicable, but knowing the often political nature of the Oscars, I wouldn't put it past them.

[@susanayakairasizeperez7763]

Maybe

[@Alina_Schmidt]

Sounds very convincing.

[@wrestlinganime4life288]

You might be right cuz.. Most black actors Oscar winners have won best actor for playing roles that could be considered stereotypes. Hall Barry, thou she mixed, won by playing essentially an exotic woman of colour as opposed to Angela Basset, Lupita for literally playing a slave, Denzel for playing essentially a Thug

[@takke9830]

It always confused me how americans can be so sentimental and attached to these propaganda films that glorify slavery. As a german ppl here would be outraged if people glorified nàzi propaganda because of it‘s „artistic greatness“ so it‘s really bizarre to see this type of thing be allowed to be shown.

[@whoknows9085]

*white people*

[@meepmoop2308]

@@whoknows9085 germans are white, lmao...

[@americangirl6654]

In America, we don’t believe in censoring what movies people can and cannot watch unless it involves the exploitation of minors or real-life torture, etc. It is presumed that people watching these movies are aware of its context and know the horrific history of slavery as well.

[@shaleamontanez4591]

@@americangirl6654 yeah but you totally know 90% of the white people watching this don't care. And if u think u do you've never spoken with a racist who idolized the south

[@elizabethlee2136]

@@shaleamontanez4591 it makes me sad that people don't get the message of the movie... Because they like Scarlett.... When she's the straight up antihero and the perfect cypher of white supremacy. With her greed, anti intellectualism, her lack of accountability, and how when she no longer had slave to exploit she destroyed her family, she took advantage of her friends, and ended up abusing her saw mill workers. She's a phoney who doesn't deserve to be happy and throws her life away on the empty ideals she was indoctrinated into, then genuine connections. Like her friendship with her previous slave who actually help her narrow ass, her friendship with the old fashioned Melanie who dies of a mysterious illness. Instead she embraces the love of a phoney like Ashley Wilkes Like yeah go off. Beca Some like one of the monsters of American literature. Yeah. But Rhett Butler is pretty dope

[@Chloe-sf1td]

I as someone who grew up in a Japanese-American home... I can speak on the anti-blackness within the Japanese community, I always felt very awkward as I was taught to fear and dislike black people, I personally don't feel that was right. My father told me if I brought home a black man I'd be cut off, yet oddly my father was okay with my brother marrying a black women (probably because my dad lowkey viewed women as property...). I ended up getting engaged to a Turkish/Panamanian man- which still resulted in me being cut off and deeply shamed-- which I truly believe had a lot of roots in white supremacy? Especially since my father would constantly tell me the Japanese are the "whites" of the Asians... Although as an Asian women there are still many difficulties I face (mainly issues rooting in the deep sexualization of Asian women, especially Japanese women with the sudden boom in anime becoming popular--) -- I understand they are fundamentally different than those of other races and would like to learn more on those differences-- Thank you for the video it was very educational. I feel I understand the struggles of other minorities better.

[@miticaBEP07]

I once read an analysis on the costuming of this movie that stated that Scarlett’s poofy white dress, the one she wears at the beginning and that she never wears in the book, is supposed to be a metaphor for the system of slavery. The white poofy dress is delicate and way too wide to not get stained in such environment, yet it is. Something that shouldn’t be, yet exists. That doesn’t get in contact with the low ground and is eventually destined to crumble.

[@elizabethlee2136]

There is so much subtle in this book that makes it way into the book, that is missed. And the black Victorian garb replacing the white is interesting. The book goes into it more as the fashion changed so much during the war becoming tighter sleeker and more sexualized. How in the first chapters she's forced to wear a black dress with no ribbons and no hoopskirts... and in the end thats what she decided to wear because fashions had changed so much, likewise she actually was in mourning the death of her friend and her marriage... as opposed to the false widowhood she imposed upon herself. Or her hats. THe costuming was amazing.

[@allyli1718]

My Asian mom still loves this film and thinks it teaches history, refuses to listen to the truth that it's propaganda. It's honestly disappointing how the hype around this movie blinded my mother until she fully believed the wool being pulled over her eyes living in America.

[@sensen4161]

Same thing with my dad. He studied in politics and still somehow doesn't see anything wrong with this movie 🤷‍♀

[@emmawills4112]

I don’t understand how someone would watch a movie based off a fictional book… And use that as a reference for history… No offence to your mother lol. But wow people are wacky.

[@Irisicaaa]

@@sensen4161 Because there is nothing wrong about a work of fiction. Movies about murder and violence are released everyday. Yet we assume people are competent enough to see the difference. USA African American slavery is OVER. Stop blaming white people for black folk's current mistakes. Slavery wasn't the reason their family is broken. They developed a culture that is equally self-preserving as it is self-destructive. It is what it is. People are too woke now to have a real conversation about what's happening today in 2021. You're lingering on past politics to sustain a self-deprecating empire.

[@oats8854]

@@Irisicaaa as shown by this comment, the only people victimizing white people are themselves. people can't talk about white supremacy or white supremacist propaganda without some insecure white person whining to them about how it wasn't his fault, when not a single person said it was. stop silencing the conversation around racism just to quell your white guilt. you can't educate yourself about mistakes your ancestors made without taking it personally, and that's no one's fault but your own.

[@jonarose3542]

I didn't really even realize the depth of this... That Mammy porch figurine thing that my cousin had on his porch really hits different, I didn't realize there was more to that stereotype than just it sort of... existing. You know?

[@chrysalisamidst]

Break it.

[@shaleamontanez4591]

It's racist iconography. Mammies were considered one of the "good" types of African Americans, and white people would collect these things (I'm talking figurines, bobble heads, salt and pepper shakers) just goes to show how far people went to dehumanize these people.

[@Stray_Reverie]

I never realized how messed up this film was until you really talked about it. I watched it as a child too, but was explained that it was from the South's perspective, so I guess I framed a lot of the Confederate sympathy from that. I paid more attention to the portrayal of normal people being dragged into war, the trauma, and destruction of Civil War, versus the merry 'grab your gun' propaganda we tend to see in other old war films. The slavery and racism never sat well with me, though. I hope this video gets more traction, it's really transformed the way I see this movie now. Proper representation and respect should be more important than nostalgia.

[@amphibiansriseup596]

It’s considered a great film by all means but I keep seeing comments trying to defend the film’s obvious flaws like the clear cut racial propaganda. Even films considered to be masterpieces have room to be criticized. It’s a Wonderful Life is one of my favorite films but I can’t stand the scene with the mammy it’s just cringy asf. Despite the quality and effort put into some of these films, it was made during a time when racial discrimination was publicized and more normalized. Also quick note, It shouldn’t be taught in schools as a “history lesson” but I don’t think Gone with the Wind should’ve been canned from HBOmax. There should be a warning before the film begins similar to the what was done about some of the Tom and Jerry/Looney Tunes cartoons. Not to mention physical copies are slowly fading into obscurity

[@LarrySonOfMilton]

No, it should be canned from all streaming sites. No one should be able to profit off of White Supremacist propaganda anymore, and boy is it wildly lucrative. If people want to see it, it should be harder to access. Same with the books.

[@gblatt8472]

@@LarrySonOfMilton I'm more in the "add a disclaimer" camp. Banning something just makes it more desirable, and sets an uncomfortable precedent. People on the Right try and ban works they think of as "abhorrent" all the time, why give them fuel? There are plenty of movies, books, songs, etc that I've found to be morally objectionable, but the thing is *I* made that decision for myself, I was allowed to watch and make up my own mind that Gone With The Wind is racist. I can point to the film and say "this represents a cultural view that that was part of history, that we are still overcoming." I think that's much more preferable to a nebulous and changeable *we* dictating that some things should or should not be available.

[@izzieb.2926]

@@gblatt8472 people on the right don't try to ban things that much anymore (thankfully), and I agree the movie shouldn't straight up be banned. The vast majority of people know the elements in the movie are wrong. Banning it would only prevent conversations about it from happening, and aren't we supposed to look back on this and not only see how far we've come, but learn from it as well? I mean, this movie came out in the late 30s. It's important to talk about and even look at things like this so we can know what NOT to do or repeat. The movie and book may not have the same appeal due to times changing for the better, but that doesn't mean they don't have a purpose. They can (and should) be used as tools to have open discussions about those kinds of elements so we can learn from the mistakes of the past and become a better nation. Banning it would have the opposite effect and that helps no one.

[@chimbo7787]

Who said every time their behavior was fine but still got kicked out of 109

[@genevievemarie8186]

It’s not defending racist propaganda to say that it came our almost a century though and y’all are holding it up to todays standard. Almost everyone who was in it is dead, it’s time for y’all to move on and find something new to complain about

[@LarrySonOfMilton]

This has been my EXACT argument since 2014! Thank you for this. It *is* as bad as Birth of a Nation, I would say worse in that it is the single-most successful and long-running White Supremacist propaganda piece of fiction in u.s. history. That book needs to be taken out of circulation too. I was also fascinated by this book as a young teen--it was "Baby WOCʻs First Introduction To White Womanhood" to me. What they aspire to be, what they can get away with, what they secretly desire. As a young brown girl, it kind of fucked me up. As a brown adult I can put words as to why.

[@Irisicaaa]

It does not need to be taken out of circulation because it offends you. I'm offended by the numerous books out there that glorify pedophilia. So what? I'm not going to get lolita on the shelves because I'm offended. Y'all are too fragile. Liberals haven't developed the mental capacity to separate fiction from reality. Perhaps that's why your cities are on fire. You're in la la land. Lol If you're offended about a work of fiction that's sad. I'm offended about the black folks and ignorant white liberals torching property and threatening human life. The difference is I fear reality, you fear fiction lol.

[@americangirl6654]

Nope, the second you start censoring and banning is the second you encourage people to rebel and watch it.

[@theoriginalkrabbypatty]

Yes… Let’s burn all the books we don’t agree with 🤔🤔🤔 Seems like I’ve heard that happening somewhere before…..

[@LarrySonOfMilton]

@@theoriginalkrabbypatty My dude, I'm never said burn or censor these books. I said *take out of circulation*, meaning the Margaret Mitchell estate will no longer be making a profit off of white supremacist propaganda through regular reprints. Mein Kampf was taken out of circulation too--it is now public domain and current editions always have a critical foreword by a historian or a translator explaining the devastating impact these words had on the early 20th century. Why can't we do the same for Gone With The Wind and its direct contribution to Jim Crow? Out of circulation does not mean people are forbidden to read it, quite the contrary--treating it as an artifact means people cannot ignore its impact, while treating it as entertainment means people can--and they do.

[@PhoebeTheFairy56]

@@theoriginalkrabbypatty "That book needs to be taken out of circulation too" doesn't mean "burn the book"

[@dylanrodrigues]

I love how you usually always provide captions! It helps hard of hearing people like me!

[@dylanrodrigues]

thank you so much, Cheyenne!

[@starspeculation]

I mean, if you watch it with the lense of "villain protagonist", then it's still a good movie

[@elizrebezilmadommdo1662]

True. It's also interesting for historical purposes because it shows the way 1930s Hollywood viewed black people and the Civil War/Reconstruction Era.

[@gwendolynstata3775]

"Everyone's a terrible bastard and they all make terrible bastard decisions." Sign me RIGHT the fuck up, I could watch assholes ruin their lives all day.

[@xChaosReignsx]

Facts on this comment & both responses!

[@elizabethlee2136]

@@gwendolynstata3775 the book is even worse. Gerald O'Hara in the book is far more,,, evil. He buys a woman that his slave is dating so they can get married as a favor. It chills my blood. He also is a murderer who in Ireland killed his landlord. Stole his step brothers money (for his store) and gambles his way to a small fortune. He gets his opponent super drunk with Porks help. And instead of freeing him or making him his partner, almost doesn't let him get married because it was too expensive.so he's a drunk a gambler and A thief who literally did not care that he almost bankrupted his brother. And Scarlett is most like him. Oh and she's obsessed with her mother who was a good woman, but we find out through dramatic irony, no she married a stranger because her parents wouldn't let her marry her cousin. The elite of savanna gentiles. Mammy is the only decent person other then Melanie.

[@VIsionsOfJenna]

And a good book. It's Scarlett's story, from her perspective.

[@dfsnsdfn]

the ONLY technicolor epic from 1939 directed by Victor Fleming we should be calling a masterpiece is The Wizard of Oz, let’s get that straight

[@Irisicaaa]

Being offended by Gone With The Wind doesn't make it any less a masterpiece. I love how other movies can glamourize violence, but oh no, you can't do that to the black folks they're special. :(

[@shaleamontanez4591]

@@Irisicaaa you're defending this movie so hard because why?? Its bad because it is white saviorism at its finest. Good slave owner keeps one good slave with her and they're friends now cuz slavery is over! Yay! No. And if you didn't know the racist charaicatires of black people was incredibly dehumanizing (think Jim crow museum). If u can't understand how it would affect anyone black or otherwise you're just living in your little white delusion

[@dfsnsdfn]

@@momdonttouchthatsock Her name is Judy Garland. She was horribly treated on the set of the Wizard of Oz and throughout her life. But if you're gonna talk about a really tragic victim use her name. She's not just "the actress who played Dorothy"

[@dfsnsdfn]

@@momdonttouchthatsock Not using her name reduces her to nothing more than a victim and a historical artefact. She was a real person who lived and created as well as suffered. She was a complex human being and not using her name and just treating her like nothing more than a piece of evidence of how terrible Hollywood is, is incredibly reductive and gross imo. And Judy Garland was a victim of abuse but she was also an unbelievably talented artist who was a lot more than just her victimhood.

[@dfsnsdfn]

@@momdonttouchthatsock Also this isn't true lol

[@BestBetterBestest]

I grew up in a black household, and Gone with the Wind was literally banned from my house. I watched a LOT of old movies with my family, but I NEVER watched Gone with the Wind and I was never allowed to.

[@T.H.H]

I've personally never seen this movie but I appreciate your views and your argument. However, I don't think content ever deserves to be censored or banned. I think it's important to keep controversial books and movies so that we can learn from them. Perhaps Gone with the Wind could be read in schools but taught from this perspective, which points out the racism.

[@spittingame4241]

I watched all 3 parts of your series and I love them. Especially what's going on in these recent days, white supremacists are trying to divide both of our communities.

[@musicalglitchsystem8896]

My mom is black (I’m white-passing in case this phrase sounds weird :/) and she loves this film. I’ve never actually seen the film myself so this video surprised me. Maybe I’ll watch it with her sometimes if I can with these points in mind. I really liked your analysis.

[@GraveyardMaiden]

I mean it's kinda cool seeing a former slave owner be left with close to nothing in the end.

[@xChaosReignsx]

@@GraveyardMaiden that’s the way I feel about the movie!

[@haroldhill6936]

Maybe your mother should see this video.

[@haroldhill6936]

I grew up like your mom thinking this was a great movie also - not realizing the hidden truths an racists attitudes of those who would promote such a movie I'm now 68 years young an see that we are still the same country we were then.

[@loverrlee]

Maybe ask her what she loves about it? There can be so many different interpretations of a movie, you never really know why someone likes a film. I’m not going to speculate on why she might like the film (I’ve personally never even seen this movie either, only came here to listen about why it’s considered a “classic” film). But maybe if you ask her why she likes it her answer might surprise you?

[@hunnybunny5474]

Thanks for sharing, Cheyenne. I just finished reading the novel a couple days ago, and then the original film yesterday afternoon. Your review is the only one I've found so far that accurately puts into words how I feel not just about the movie, but about what comes to mind when I hear people call the film/story a "masterpiece." The only good thing I'd ever say about the film is that I truly think the soundtrack is sweeping, and beautiful. But.. that's pretty much it. Thanks again.

[@symonesimss]

We were literally required in my Apparel class to do our final major exam project and when I emailed her about the issues with forcing us to base our entire grade about a movie glorifying the confederate army 🙄🙄 she said “we’ll just don’t think about that part just the outfits”😐

[@7BearSarah]

My mother in law is OBSESSED with this movie and I do not understand why. Scarlett O'Hara is her idol. It is incredibly concerning to me that she refuses to see that its problematic. Sadly, she is not alone. People have been making excuses for this film for decades and it needs to stop.

[@cookiediangelo8511]

Well, because that wasn’t the point of the film. She doesn’t care if it isn’t problematic, and she doesn’t have to give up something she loves because you think it’s problematic. Saying she “refuses to see that it’s problematic” is IMO problematic on your part, and maybe a little toxic too. I guarantee she doesn’t like it for it’s white supremacy, but for its romance, and why should you criticize and take away from her what she likes. It got a movie 3 years after it was released, and not because it’s racist, but because it has an audience that really liked it.

[@shaleamontanez4591]

@@cookiediangelo8511 a primarily white audience though. The movie wasn't made for people of color. It was made just for a specifically white confederate southerner. Idk if that makes any difference but the movie romantics "good" slave owner. It's not my place to tell someone to stop watching but it's not hurtful to tell someone hey...that thing u like isn't okay in the real world.

[@candicefrost4561]

Wonder why she looks up to a temperamental, self absorbed racist enslaver?

[@genera1013]

Gone With the Wind was shown in school? Where? I didn't first see it until my 20s.

[@JuriAmari]

Same! The first and (relieved to say) only time I had to watch the film was in my 20s for my Black American History course. Thankfully it was focused on critiquing and explain the harm the film was doing to the Black community as well as the plot. But even with that, it was still torturous to get through (and this is a girl who can get through epics like LOTR with no issues). I had to call my friends and talk with my parents to get through it. I took the opportunity in my critique to come to Hattie McDaniel and Butterfly McQueen’s defenses. They were treated horribly and they had very few choices in roles let alone how to make a significant living at the time. McDaniel certainly got the brunt of it because she had to take on those role and be friendly to everyone even if it may have created animosity with the black community because it literally would’ve made the difference between a comfortable living and the street. Another victim of this was Steppin’ Fetchit. Dorothy Dandridge came the closest in getting out of the stereotypical roles but it wasn’t any easier because Otto Prettinger didn’t allow her to audition for a lot of roles she was interested in. Besides Carmen Jones, there was an Italian film she did that really would’ve revolutionized how black people were being portrayed in film at the time but that footage is lost. In terms of Hattie McDaniel’s Oscar, there have been rumors that it might be somewhere in Howard University. But because of the lack of a paper trail, they can’t be 100% sure. One thing is certain - it’s not in the Potomac!

[@johnwalker1058]

I saw Gone With the Wind in my eighth grade US history class. It was meant to give some sort of little glimpse into what life in the Antebellum South was like in a way that was not completely historically accurate like a quality history documentary, but that its historical references could tell a little history, while being an entertaining little break from our Civil War projects. However, I'm not so sure how much my history teacher covered about how some of the aspects of what was going on throughout the movie were only somewhat true for wealthy people in the South, and how much this movie romanticizes a certain attitude about the South that could potentially be used as fuel for the "War of Northern Aggression" type thinking, or even "Lost Cause" thinking.

[@GeoNeilUK]

"This lauded Hollywood classic needs to be finally laid to rest" See also Birth Of A Nation, if that film is to be used as an essential piece then it should be not of D W Griffith's groundbreaking cinematography, but as of a study of the power of film to serve as propaganda. I'd be very surprised if German filmakers study the work of Leni Riefenstahl, for example.

[@sophiasieczka]

okay being a youngin I had never seen gone with the wind, let alone know it was about racism. Somehow I grew up thinking it was about incest??? I dont know why, but anyway love your take !

[@sophiasieczka]

@@Music_Lover0612 Aa thank you! I thought it was a fake memory

[@billbuttlicker1248]

Well tbf you’re not far off bc ashley and that other girl who scarlett hated (can’t remember her name) were cousins lol

[@jingxie1451]

@@billbuttlicker1248 Melanie?

[@LadySaiaFA3]

When i was in 5th grade, we “watched” Gone with the Wind. I said “watched” bc most of us was just eating our snacks and ignoring the boring ass movie. The only scene I remember from the movie was when they were in a carriage ride as the sun was setting and quickly ignored it.

[@foxesofautumn]

In my history class we watched Nazi propaganda to understand how it worked and how dangerous it was. I don’t agree we should pretend this film doesn’t exist. It should be studied and understood for what it is.

[@lidiabidia105]

My family was always trying to get me to read this book when I was younger all I knew was it was about some white lady around civil war era south and I put that together and avoided any media surrounding it, and I’m glad I did, narratives like that can be so harmful to young minds.

[@shanelocsin9906]

I agree with your points and they are very informative and very well said. I haven't seen the movie and I'd like to get a chance to watch it(even if it was 3 hours long)...hahaha There's something in me that says that this shouldn't be suppressed for it's undertones but, it should be exposed for the things/topics that we should be aware of or be careful with in the future. I mean, this could be an example of how these topics should not be repeated or done again in the coming generations.

[@izzieb.2926]

Exactly. Just because something doesn't have the same appeal due to times changing for the better doesn't mean it can't still have a purpose in today's society. Most people will agree that a lot of elements in the movie are problematic (after all, it was released in the late 30s. Really isn't that much of a surprise), and banning it would only succeed in preventing open discussions as to WHY. It would only make the film more desirable to people who haven't seen it and make people not want to be on your side because no one wants to be on the side of the movie police. I mean, didn't someone say that those who don't learn from the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat it?

[@four_girls_in_search_of_awesom]

I watched Hollywood on Netflix and Hattie in the show said that she wasn’t even allowed inside the Oscars ceremony to sit with everyone. Sounds about right, but I haven’t fact-checked it. Speaking of, it’d be interesting to hear your thoughts on the show. It’s been criticized for being revisionist, but it seems more complicated than that. At the very least, it didn’t seem like the show intended it that way.

[@Priestbokmei1]

You are really impressive! I forget what your career path is, but you need to become a Ph.D professor and filmmaker!

[@CheyenneLin]

Thanks! Maybe one day haha

[@wanderinggstars]

I'm new here, I found you on Twitter! Loved the video and love your thumbnails!

[@CheyenneLin]

Thank you so much!!! I try really hard on my thumbnails haha. Thanks for sticking around 🥰

[@imjustsaying364]

My father was born and raised in Alabama. I was born and raised in NYC. Although there are MANY things about my southern roots that I love and celebrate, this White supremacist propaganda is not it!! I hate this movie and for the life of me CANNOT understand how ANYONE with an ounce of self awareness or empathy could even entertain this today!?!? Good for you sis!!!

[@fistoflegend1564]

Good synopsis on the film never knew it was based on a book. Shame what happened to all the black actors. "Gone With The Wind" needs be gone with the wind.

[@natalierose13]

I haven’t seen this movie since I was like, five. My mom loves it and watches it whenever she’s depressed. I didn’t remember anything about it besides it’s film history. This is a great explanation, thank you so much. Your videos are super informative.

[@RamseyC.]

As a GA native, I can tell you you still see embarrassing merch for it in souvenir shops sometimes, unfortunately. We never watched it in elementary school however; though I have a feeling this may have to do w/ the fact that that may have not gone over so well (and been embarrassing) when a large portion of the student body are Black themselves.

[@nadirahcharles]

I love Gone with the wind. It is endlessly quotable. I will never tire of saying "I don't know nuthin' about birthin' no babies" whenever I am asked to do a task. I watch this like I' m watching a revisionist fantasy film. Cognitive dissonance in all it's spikey glory. Thank you for the vid Cheyenne!

[@tecpaocelotl]

I have it on dvd to change the narrative. Most points you brought it is most of what I tell people. The king and I is another movie people get defensive on.

[@sevenone32]

This is a good video. Thanks for doing this. I understand that on one hand we shouldn't perpetuate this type of content, but I also fear that the more we hide our history, the easier it is to once again erase. African and African American history has been hidden and erased to such an extent that it already makes it easy to blame black people for our own conditions, deem us to be inheritely less than, absolve white people of the evils of their past and present, and keep black people in a perpetual state of being gas-lit. To this day people don't know that birth of a nation was debuted in the white house, or that there were human zoos and PT Barnum was an owner of one...in fact the 2017 movie 'the greatest showman' turned him into a wholesome Disney character. Anyway there has to be a way to not hide this history but to appropriately reveal it with the context that it needs. That includes understanding gone with the wind as propaganda, that includes the original Aunt Jemaima syrup logo not seamlessly disappearing into the wind like it never existed, etc

[@butters796]

I admit being young and dumb and loving this movie. I was raised in Texas, as the education we get is a little......skewed to say the least.

[@americangirl6654]

Also raised in Texas and my education wasn’t skewed at all.

[@mrahim1342]

You’re such an amazing KZbinr the range of topics you’ve covered since I started watching you is astounding. Continue with the awesome content it is very much appreciated. ❤️

[@mastabeta85]

Fell into the YT rabbit hole saw your three piece anti-blackness series. Good work...

[@FoxgeraldMUSIC]

The problem here is that IF we just put it away for nobody else to see or know about it, that would count as censorship. Instead we should acknowledge the movie for what it is, learn from the mistakes, and move on to become a better society than the one depicted, or the one that originally watched the movie. Besides, there's a lot one can learn from Scarlett, a lot to copy from her but also a lot to avoid.

[@SSRheum]

Ngl this is the first time I actually heard the plot for Gone With The Wind. Back when my class was reading the book I always just fell asleep. Good to know that people realize how bad it is though

[@charlotterickett2292]

I really enjoy your insightful content! You are literally one in a million when it comes to the Asian Communities!🙂

[@leporinedivine]

They showed this movie in the Church that i was in at a young age. I was around 6/7 and I left for the bathroom for hours about 15 minutes in. The women showing it said that the Main Woman was someone to look up to, and said that she was a child of God. But the weird thing was they showed this to only the girls, all while giving us small lemonades with umbrellas in them. I remember this vividly, especially the intro. Ive forgotten about it until now. I remember going to the bathroom and RUNNING to the paintings next to the ladies’ stalls. I dont know much about this movie now, but thank you for making this video.

[@Gallant_Silver]

I'm thankful that young me thought this movie was so damn boring, that I never have the desire to watch it a second time.

[@dinkyrussell75]

As someone who grew up with GWTW and is even named after Melanie I always thought it was so strange that the slaves seemed to enjoy being slaves. I always think of this movie from the unreliable pov from Scarlett. There's this scene in the movie where Ashley criticizes Scarlett for working everyone too hard. Scarlett replies that it's basically the same thing as owning slaves but Ashley doesn't seem to have a problem with that. That would have actually been a killer line that pointed out the South's hypocrisy but of course it's then ruined by Ashley saying that's "different" because they treated the slaves like "family". Honestly, with Hollywood doing all these reboots I think they should do GWTW. It's still a story with great value to be told, just needs to be updated. I mean the movie is much less racist compared to the book. According to behind the scenes they asked the black actors if there was anything they wanted to be taken out of the movie and apparently they requested a scene involving the slaves eating watermelon to be taken out. Idk I just wanna watch GWTW without the poor handling of racism and rape scene 😕

[@LarrySonOfMilton]

I donʻt think itʻs possible to have GWTW without the racism or the rape aspects. Those themes are entwined in the movie as powerful drivers of tension and plot, and youʻd have to get rid of the Confederacy as a backdrop too. And tbh, I think the film is equally racist as the book--just because certain scenes were taken out or adjusted doesnʻt mean the film doesnʻt inherently long for a time "of master and slave, no more than a dream remembered, a civilization gone with the wind." Itʻs even in the damn title. I think people have to start from scratch if they want to critically re-do this story. Try reading "The Wind Done Gone" by Alice Randall, which is GWTW but through the point of view of one of Scarlettʻs slaves.

[@xxashtonlee]

@@LarrySonOfMilton they didn't mean to cut racism and rape out altogether, but to handle them better, instead of glorifying the confederacy, to expose the reality of racism and slavery and rape

[@gabriellegoodwin4422]

My family was talking about this at dinner, and I was surprised how they reacted to this really creepy movie like it was an everyday occurrence. When I pointed out to my grandma how weird it was to make a movie about how hard it must've been for slave owners when slavery was abolished, her response was "yes well, it's a very nice film"

[@chunks7166]

hmmmmm

[@elizabethlee2136]

I think people should be a little uncomfortable. Its what American history is about. Feeling awkward about survivng the worst shit you ever heard. Yeah ask them how they feel about insider training, human trafficking and the exploitation of the working class. I mean evil doesn't come from monsters, it comes from human beings who have their own businesses and their own families they love. And Scarlett instead of inheritting the "positive values" of her culture which were mostly based on lies and misogyny, became as cruel and greedy as her parents generation. But amorally she did survive and she may be young enough to bring some good into the world. Or she might spend 20 years chasing Rhett Butler like she did with that dopey Ashley Wilkes. People need to be a little uncomfortable. So they don't do stupid

[@jessicacruz4729]

Older people feel uncomfortable talking about systematic racism and discrimination because it's been their whole life. They would basically be admitting to have been racist for years and would feel ashamed

[@gabriellegoodwin4422]

I’ll admit, I haven’t actually watched this movie, but she didn’t talk about it like it was an insightful movie about how generational bigotry formed, she talked about it like it was a creative take on how hard life would’ve been for slave owners come the abolishment of slavery.

[@elizabethlee2136]

@@gabriellegoodwin4422 I think its not very insightful... the book is. I do think that it it isn't glamourizing slave owners and pokes fun at Civil War Apologia as literally personified by the Wilkes. Melanie, who is studious kind and demure Southern Woman... and Ashley who is human garbage with the facade of gentility when he is a coward who ends up in prison. While it avoids the difficult perspective of slaves. It is not cut and dry. It is even more muddled in the book. Scarlett is the actual South who like Scarlett's obsessive love for spectacle and the appearance of gentility is betrayed and only makes it by being a horrible person to everyone, and being rescued by Rhett a person whose does horrible things but seeks more and more some kind of redemption. Scarlett literally gives up all the values of a good Southern Woman and is rewarded for it by wealth and power Scarlett loves an ideal man that never existed and in the end she makes the decision to chase after what she can get. Thats why it has such a weird ending. The south dreamed of its own gentility at the price of misogyny, cruelty and abuse. And good or bad it should have been destroyed. And we must put it aside our past sometimes and try to make things better in the present by being honest with ourselves, and pursue better ideals.

[@CarlosVasquez-sr8zj]

Anyone knows where to watch the first film?

[@TrazzyStar]

Rereleased 9 times!!! How in the world is that even possible damn ...

[@GraveyardMaiden]

I remember watching this in highschool and we talked about the rascism with in the film and the prejudice of it.

[@donjames7971]

'Gone with The Wind', a movie I refused to have my psyche experience as a few others that appear to normalize the current status quo ...

[@davehan241]

I remember buying one of the DVD releases because it was so lauded and I thought must be worth watching, right? Watched the documentary, watched the movie...then I thought, "NOPE, not worth watching. I guess the only value of having seen it is to comment on how backwards it is now."

[@nemesisurvivorleon]

"wow, I Never saw gone with the wind but it seemed like a cute movie I wonder why there's controversy around it" "OH."

[@joeroachex]

Thanks, you give good information. I am a visual artist currently doing some work about the films you mentioned, Gone With The Wind, Birth of A Nation, The Jazz Singer, etc. and how they helped to institutionalize white supremacy in American. Keep up the good work young lady.

[@zerne1]

I am amazed at your level of righteousness. You’re perfect 🤩

[@reyesrodriguez4360]

Actually, I must confess that I like GWTW; it's my guilty pleasure. The first time I saw it was 11 years ago, and for me, it was a story about a lost cause; slavery was wrong and it was not possible to keep it any longer. I never saw it as White Supremacy propaganda. On the other hand, I focused mainly on the love story; the Civil War was just the backdrop of a torrid romance. For me, it is not a movie merely about history, it is a movie about destructive romantic relationships and survival. Nevertheless, the movie encouraged me to read more about Slavery in the USA. Therefore, I never took too seriously the impressions and depictions of slavery in GWTW. To have the facts, I had to read and inform myself because the movie portrays some stereotypes and does not show us what lies beyond the Scarlett O'Hara's struggles; what did Mammy think about the War? How did they really feel about being slaves? Hattie McDaniel conveys all the rage and anger for being a slave and serving the O'Hara family. We are never told, but I could see it in her performance. Mammy is a truth-teller, a smart and wise woman in the wrong circumstances. If she [McDaniel] deserved or not the Academy Award, actually, I don't care. I have never taken the Oscars too seriously either; her performance was great, that's it! On the other hand, I always saw the main characters (Scarlett, Melanie, Ashley, Mr. O'Hara) as idiots. Scarlett was a conniving and spoiled girl, Melanie and Ashley were unable to cope with the difficulties during the Reconstruction. Actually, Melanie's death is a metaphor for how the Old South, the moon and magnolia, the myth, was doomed to vanish. Rhett was another truth-teller who knew that slavery was a lost cause. I can't deny that at times the movie is problematic, especially when it comes to the stereotypes. However, I might be unable to spot further problematic details, maybe because I was not born or raised in the USA. In any case, the movie was not made [from my point of view] as White Supremacy propaganda, it was not necessary during that period, it was made to make money, it has its artistic and technical achievements, but the story is questionable. We have an equivalent here in Mexico that was actually very praised a few years ago. I am sure that foreign audiences are unable to spot the difficulties in the movie. And it might be as supremacist as, supposedly, GWTW (for Mexican standards), besides being too selfish. I am talking about "Roma" by Cuaron. But that's another story...

[@onceupon3805]

These films shouldn't not be available, it should be available along with commentary pointing to truths and falsehoods related to it - like you are doing. People need to be able to see it to apply the criticisms. On that note, we need to improve the education system and access in the U.S. (and so many other things) so that more people are able to think critically (that's a learned skill, not something we are born with as far as I know) ...

[@mushroom_thing7927]

6:35 This is too true, my mom made me watch it when I was like 7. Also, I didn't know what side of the war they were fighting for or which war they were even fighting in.

[@kamuigakup0]

thank you for your research on this, unbelievable this got barely any traction but.. thats youtube for you

[@blueoblivionx]

I'm glad to say I have never seen this movie haha

[@honeybunn_deluxxe]

You're amazing and so articulate, please don't stop speaking the truth!!!🤗💜

[@justinwatson1510]

I really appreciate your content.

[@franksalazardiaz]

Your videos are amazing, whenever I watch them I learn a lot and they even help me with my anxiety, thanks ❤️

[@bobbydixon4484]

I love your videos! Thank you so much. your videos helped my korean wife see shit she wasn't really willing to hear from me. But you however help her to see he bias and grow as person now that we have a child.

[@ravenrose5712]

The way the actors were treated sucks, but I'm glad Butterfly McQueen and Oscar Paul did have a chance at roles that weren't racist garbage.

[@tylachad6102]

I wish we would stop praising and giving credit to racist/problematic “art”. It’s not a masterpiece. It’s racist, white supremist propaganda. If this were a movie romanticizing the Holocaust, NO ONE would be impressed or remaking it. No one would praise it for how great it was “in its time”. I wish more people would criticize things for what they are and stop trying to find a bright side. Because usually the “bright side” is just enabling the problematic behaviors of white people in the US. This movie is literally racist trash.

[@Jralls3]

I appreciate your work? Keep it up! Also no ads on this video. Did they demonitze this one?

[@kiciacoldspring1621]

So glad to have found your channel. I love your videos. Thank you.

[@eeveelutiongirl9933]

Although I'm happy to say this was never in my childhood. It's weird to think about because I've heard several references to this movie without knowing what it was until like today and... I don't quite know what to think. I as you know someone dark skinned don't quite know how to feel that there are several references in pop culture and media to this thing that really should be shunned in all honesty.

[@valiizajames925]

I am so impressed by you

[@avenaoat]

When I was 12 years old bookworm I read from my Mother's library "Gone with the Wind" in Hungary. I forgot the plot, but I remeber the slaves liked the slavery in the book. Harriet Beecher Stowe showed some humanist slave owners from the Southern sociaty, however Mrs Stowe showed not solution to be humanist in the slavery because a financial or other problem can cause such possibility that a slave could been sold into inhuman circumtances. The "Uncle Tom's Cabin" was portayed by Eliza and Tom who became victims against their original master and his family were humanist in Kentucky. Mrs Stowe showed the only solution good when the son of the original owner of Tom and Eliza freed his all slaves in Kentucky.

[@averyeml]

I always wanted to read the book when I saw it in my high school library simply because it’s HUMONGOUS and I knew it was a movie and literally nothing else. Then I watched it and while I’d still be interested to read it, I am less excited. There’s so much to hate about it. Weirdly the thing I remember most in relation to the movie is a news article when a guy found the facade of the plantation (which has a name I can’t remember right now) rotting away in a barn somewhere and the effort to restore it, calling these planks of wood by the name of the plantation and treating it with this almost holy reverence. When the wooden facade of a plantation in a movie gets more reverential treatment than the actual humans of color in it and portrayed in it? That’s fucked up.

[@elizabethlee2136]

I think that is why people need to read it. This whole concept of American History. That people can be born in such a toxic stupid system that they pretend is so ancient eternal and longstanding when it represents maybe less then 50 years. The addictive use of nostalgia for better days, to hide the deeply problematic issues. It is a great book on how American history is formed... outside of the context of conventional morality. How even moral values can be upturned when exposed as worthless. THe truth is the planter class had stratified their stupid garbage society, to indoctrinate everyone, and when that world was oblitearted by the forces of progress, industrial and moral, that it still poisoned people for generations. Hate read it or read it. Its really fascinating that American history is just tales of people surviving the most terrible shit you ever heard, doing shit you'd never think you'd do and forgetting about it. And how white Supremacists are so thirsty and backwards they want to Idealize people like Scarlett O'hara and RHett Butler, people who destroy their families, commit treason, murder and break every law, to make a few million dollars while everyone else starves. You have to humanize people like this, but never idealize. Its okay for villains to be human, but we can't forget they are horrible too, and not to be like them. I don't women who like GOne WIth the Wind like to remember Scarlet married a guy so her highschool bully couldn't and she would get revenge on them for talking shit about her. Or shooting a man in cold blood, or getting a man killed in her labour camp because she was too greedy and lazy to inspect her employees

[@ilselopez2311]

I only recently watched this movie and I really liked it. But, it is a movie that one has to watch with a lot of responsibility and insight because there is A LOT OF ISSUES with it.

[@vanders626]

Hi, Cheyenne. Propaganda is misspelled in the title.

[@CheyenneLin]

thanks! will change it now

[@vanders626]

@@CheyenneLin hope it gets more recommended, since it's one of your best

[@CheyenneLin]

@@vanders626 Thank you so much Vander! I had no idea about the typo so maybe that's what was hurting it as far as search terms go. Thanks again!

[@vanders626]

I'm sure you already have a lot of videos planned, but I have a suggestion for one: First do the connection between Disney's Tarzan and Ed Motta. Then, connect Ed Motta to Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong. Sprinkle in minor cameos of Scatman John and Tim Maia.

[@CheyenneLin]

@@vanders626 thanks for the suggestion Vander! Ill think about it 👍

[@poshaceofhearts]

Can we take a second to talk about how Hattie Daniels had to accept her Oscar from a back room?

[@chantaltestman6916]

Awesome video but I agree Gone With The Wind promotes white supremacy. As a child my parents couldn't stand this damn movie. My late step-father is from St. Croix. His great grand mother was a slave and she birth her slaver childern. Her children was the byproduct if white slaver owner sexual abusing and exploiting their black own female slave. We slavery ended in St. Croix he gave her a plot land for her and the kids and went back to Holland with his white family. Growing up my parents had no desire as to me watch movies like Gone With The Wind. Instead actual taught me the history as well the horror of slavery in U.S especially outside. The trans-Atlantic slaver trade was all over south america and the Caribbean. Even my mother has African heritage and my biological father because of the slave trade. I agree, Gone With Wind promotes white supremacy as well ignorance. Not only does it minimize the effects of slavery on black Americans but the whole damn slave trade itself. This is an issue when childern are being taught about slavery. I understand that slavery is a heavy subject but movies like this create a fantasy ideal. That slavery wasn't all that bad and any person of who objects to this movie are being ridiculous. Its movies like these make it difficult to damn near impossible to discuss racism that is happening today. It influence people to see systematic racism as a myth and continues to silence black philight.

[@haroldhill6936]

Thank you for your words of honesty an wisdom.

[@stanable9716]

I watched the movie for the first time recently at my grandmas house and one of the most jarringly racist moments (out of the entirely racist film as a whole) was that in the 2nd act, the movie really goes out of its way to say that the Black people who stuck with their former masters (like Mammy, Pork, and Prissy) are much more virtuous and respectable than the newly freed Black folks of the south, who are now dangerous, uneducated, and taking up all the land from the poor white folks who are the “real” victims of all slavery being abolished. It’s absolutely vile

[@chloejones6240]

I loved this movie growing up (mostly bc I related to scarlet’s personality and liked seeing it portrayed as an over all positive) but I am so thankful my mother would give a speech before and after watching telling me how the actors were treated, the realities of slavery, etc. It’s a good movie, but it should not be shown to children without at least a proper criticism of its treatment of slavery and white supremacy.

[@chloejones6240]

(I know scarlet is a total asshole and I don’t think she’s a good person I just enjoyed seeing a strong willed woman who never had to become masculine to be considered strong etc.)

[@CreativaArtly]

Oh the memories of first being shown this as fourth graders. Glad it didn’t jade us. We were provided disclaimers by the teacher which helps I think.

[@KB-si5fx]

Obviously, GWTW glorifies the Confederacy. My main issue with it is that many of its fans fail to see that (and/or they tend to romanticize the Confederacy themselves).

[@indievariety]

The really sad part about "Gone With The Wind" is that it parallels REAL beliefs of people today. I agree we need to stop tolerating media like this

[@americangirl6654]

The more you ban and censor, the more people are going to want to rebel and watch it.

[@trashgoblin1182]

@@americangirl6654 But that's not what anyone's saying. Nobody is proposing a literal ban on making films like this, people are saying we on mass shouldn't look at a movie openly glorifying slavery and go "Love that make it a classic" and act like there's no issues with it. Both from a moral standpoint of not watering down racism, and a point of wanting to preserve the actual truth of history. The same reason films like The Boy in the Striped Pajamas was largely planned in the Jewish community, a coddling of nazis and a false presentation of the Holocaust. These are *incredibly* valid reasons to say movies like this shouldn't be tolerated by consumers. And if a person's instant response to "Don't glorify this movie, it's incredibly racist" is "Well now I'm going to watch it and love it >:(" they're a petulant child that clearly has other problems to work out.

[@mehlover]

I remember being shown this in my middle and high school history classes during the mid 2000's. Really messed with my and students' views on racism. Doesn't also help how he said how great Gone with the Wind was portraying American history. The history teacher who would ALWAYS show it in his American history class doesn't teach anymore. But now he's a guidance counselor. I can only hope that he's changed for the better. But at worse, dude is most likely racist Edit: it also makes more sense now why Gone with the Wind was in the general consciousness' for so long, all the dang merchandise. I never knew that, the barbie and mammy dolls that old white ladies are collecting, yikes, just bunch of yikes

[@antigone7980]

Have you seen coldcrashproductions take on the movie? His take on the movie isn't something I've heard before and it's super interesting

[@mothman26]

So interesting to hear your opinion. New viewer and will be for awhile!

[@clarezigner6028]

The time has come to make a film biography of the Grimke Sisters, who grew up in a slave owning family and campaigned for abolition if slavery and women,s rights.

[@bellery.]

Funny thing is I've seen a few copies of Gone With The Wind in Walmart before I've always had a weird feeling about that movie for quite awhile.

[@hazelfirestone5154]

i remember being in sixth grade in a private school and they showed us this movie. i didn’t really pay attention but i was really put off by it

[@DarkNJuju]

This movie and book should been throwing in the trash a long time ago. Keep one copy in a library but only one so the white women will have to be Karens to get their hands on it.

[@TonyFontaine1988]

Loser

[@wengercleopatra2150]

Amen to that!

[@jessmoney333]

ugh i hate that this movie is racist it has so much about life and has helped me through so much 💔💔💔💔💔

[@livlooksforghosts]

i remember watching this when i was 11 or 12 and being like this is messed up.