The Great Wall - Movie Review

[@NoahWeisbrod]

I suppose a lot of people forget that China doesn't have the same race politics as the US. Matt Damon being cast was more selling out than anything else.

[@azraelswrd]

Yep, China doesn't care. They just wanted to sell this to USA market so the easiest way to do this is by forcing some white people into their movie (The Martian, guy from Game of Thrones and DaFoe). They know this will make back their budget at home, so USA will be the test abroad.

[@alejandromolinac]

Actually most people in other countries don't give a shit either... Me and non of my friends were upset Luke wasn't a Mexican Pepper Farm Hand with a thick accent when Star Wars came out... yet we pretended to be him... Same, we watched Kung Fu Movies and we never bitched about race... Gotta love the 80's abroad...

[@OttoVonGarfield]

Now I want to see star wars but where Luke is an extremely stereotypical mexican pepper farmer, and he sneaks aboard the death star by pretending to be one of the janitors.

[@NoahWeisbrod]

max larsen Lucas Caminante de Cielo

[@alejandromolinac]

Noah Weisbrod For some reason his name is still Skywalker... But but RT-D2 is Artoodeetu.... in Spanish...

[@crazyinsane500]

From the sounds of it they just bullshitted a reason for Matt Damon's character to exist in the movie so that they could have Matt Damon. It's because of this vestigial role that makes me kinda glad it didn't make double it's budget. Which is a shame, because except for the meta of me constantly shaking my head at Matt Damon existing, the movie was indeed great. His character could have easily been replaced with a peasant conscripted for the war effort and trained in the ways of these amazing soldiers (thus giving more of a chance for legitimate worldbuilding) if they wanted to do the fish out of water story or introduce the audience to the setting. That's what they did for Edge of Tomorrow and Mulan.

[@TheSonicChaotix]

Can't wait to see this movie. I'm SHOCKED that you didn't talk about the soundtrack. The soundtrack by Djawadi is incredible.

[@kevind814]

Saw House of Flying Daggers after being exposed to the beauty of Zhang Ziyi in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. The color in House is stunning has you say.

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Its quite possibly the most beautiful movie I've ever seen. The colors are so vibrant, every scene stands out.

[@justinwong8864]

Have you seen War of the Arrows?

[@KeyBladeMaster-Dan]

Ziyi Zhang is literally the most beautiful woman on this planet

[@Rychlewicz]

China does quick and cheap... or giant pieces of art for years. I look forward to more Chinese movies on western market.

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Me too. Some of my all time favorite movies are from China.

[@Rychlewicz]

GoodBadFlicks I mean in different way. For you see if their movies become more successful on the west Chinese will try to expand more in that direction. Their style will become more popular and new age of cinema will evolve instead of return to nostalgia. China is open to buisness. That is their greatest perk. They still have problems inside the country but soon we can open the borders... in more cultural way.

[@ThreadBomb]

My guess is the Chinese edit has less Matt Damon and more Chinese actors. It would be nice if we got to see that version.

[@j.b.booker7912]

House of flying daggers is a movie that would be very hard to top. The shots and setpieces, the mise en scene, colors and lighting and story were just so beautifully done. Especially the drum dance. Amazing. Saddened to hear this was disappointing. I almost always agree with you. Will probably check it out regardless though. Seems like the best venue for it would be on big screen.

[@blond3479]

Goodbadflicks you should check out "The Invitation" it's on netflix right now.

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Saw it the other week and loved it.

[@blond3479]

I knew you would, are you reviewing it then?

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Possibly? I'm just really backed up now trying to watch all the 2016 movies before making my top 10 of the year.

[@blond3479]

I understand, can't wait to see what you have next.

[@SnakePlaysHD]

I really hope you do as I hated it... If you review I'm sure you'll bring up some great points as to why you loved it, so much so that if you do I'll probably give it a second watch.

[@lechatnoir157]

I saw the trailer before and was interested in the film being a really big chinese production. (Not so much because of the story depicted in the trailer though.) It´s pretty interesting to know though that it was done by the same person who did "house of flying daggers" because that movie was indeed awesome. All in all it´s cool to have heard someone make a good critique of the movie before considering to watch it. (So basically thank you person who made the video.)

[@_-.-_-_.._--.-_-_----_-.--_._-]

When I first saw the trailer, the caption said something along the lines of "for what purpose was the Great Wall built?" When I heard this... I said aloud, "To protect against the Mongols..." A couple folks in the audience chuckled at this.

[@GG-ou7it]

what did he mean by this?

[@_-.-_-_.._--.-_-_----_-.--_._-]

Stef Tep To quell your curiosity, you cannot accurately translate my profile name because of the Arabic and Hebrew characters which read right to left rather than left to right.

[@OttoVonGarfield]

That's the big plot twist, the monsters were the mongols in disguise the whole time! And they would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you pesky kids and your stupid dog.

[@FriendlyYandere]

Because you reminded them how the movie could have been better.

[@ButcherSevenActual]

The armies distinguished by colored armor is reminiscent of Kurosawa's "Ran".

[@paulkielty8385]

I recently disowned a friend of mine for calling House of Flying Daggers cheesy shit.

[@Rafferty1968]

Have you seen Kurosawas Ran? The colours of the banners definitely influenced this

[@DeliaCore]

I was really interested in this movie and, at first, it seemed like it might be one of those stereotypical "white savior" stories and I rolled my eyes a bit but then I heard about the Chinese director and the majority Chinese Cast and I became very interested to see what it would be. Hoping to see it this weekend.

[@tarzantabi7845]

this will always be a guilty pleasure of mine.

[@AJudgeFredd]

I loved this movie, as a visuals guy, this really hit me hard right where I enjoy it...

[@AJudgeFredd]

Also I believe that the movie got cut down by the studios, you can kind of feel negative space where some things were supposed to be.

[@azraelswrd]

Yep, that's been the recurring criticism for the bad editing/pacing issues. Not the first time this has happened. I remember watching Red Cliff (full version) and loved it. Then my sister rented the edited version from Netflix and I was confused because nearly an hour of material was missing with complete subplots. China loves making epic movies but when they sell it overseas, they hack it down to fit some pre-established time frame. Hopefully, when this goes to DVD, the "complete" version will be available.

[@LordStickMax]

kind of reminds me of 13th warrior where this outsider is learning and experiencing this culture while helping to fight a larger threat.

[@Axolotl_Mischief]

The final shot in Flying Daggers is gorgeous. I loved that flick.

[@radioblueheart]

When I went to see "Suicide Sqaud", the trailer for this played. After it was over and there was a moment of silence and darkness before the next trailer started. During that short break somebody yelled back at the screen "Goddamn Mongolians! Stop knocking down my shitty wall!"

[@31FilmTalk]

It's rare if a director has a perfect track record

[@mloftus8618]

Zhang Yimou always using color in his movies. Hero is one of my favorite movies. This movie stunk imo, but he is a great talent nonetheless. Love your reviews man...and your taste in music. Overkill rocks baby!

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Thanks! I was just listening to The Years of Decay! :)

[@mloftus8618]

GoodBadFlicks - Nice. That album, and “Under the Influence” were staples of my youth. Along with Metallica, Anihillator, Megadeth, etc etc. Overkill never sold out their sound, except for the thankfully one time only experimentation of “I hear Black” in the early 90’s. Anyway, we have to be the same age cuz every joke and reference in your clips is spot-on to my youth. You actually remind me a lot of me and my buddy Derek with your style of humor. And I think we may be sort of neighbors...I think u may be from PA, and I’m in MD (Baltimore). Anyways, great videos, you are very talented and entertaining, and have great taste for the most part!

[@cordia96]

What is it with Max Brooks and big ass walls?

[@segasonic015]

I'd hate to change the subject, but how do you think Ghost in the Shell and Power Rangers will do in March?

[@ajshim]

If I had one major complaint on the film. It would be that the armor at times way too bright. Like blinding bright on the big screen.

[@TaliesinBHeidkamp]

You mentioned Starship Troopers...how about reviews your Exploring-vids about its two sequels? I think they're bad but I am totally curious about them

[@azraelswrd]

I hope he only reserves Exploring vids for "good" bad flicks. Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the Federation and ST3: Marauder were bad-bad flicks. #2 was all over the place and #3 pretty much sabotaged the universe Heinlen created. Only sequel that managed to respect the property was the animated DTV Starship Troopers Invasion, which came out after the live action movies. Only shining light throughout all of the darkness was Casper Van Diens, who always played Rico. I heard the Roughnecks animated series wasn't bad, but I haven't seen it myself.

[@TaliesinBHeidkamp]

azraelswrd I'm totally with you. They're horrendous. But I am still interested in their BTS stuff

[@CassDaMan1138]

+azraelswrd Roughneck Chronicles was a great show let down by the time and format it was presented in. It being an late 1990s cartoon meant any real violence was toned down, clear attempts at getting around swearing was everywhere, hardly anyone died and the animation is 90s poser CGI so it hasn't really held up. Had it come out now on Spike TV or Adult Swim it would be more able to be even better.

[@DanielleKingdjdinosaur]

the great wall had a good concept but considering the budget and that visual effects have progressed the monsters were not well designed and the cg was pretty poor.Idont care about a white actor in a chinese film if he was put in it to sell the film to the world .He wasnt playing a chinese roll so i dont see what the problem is .What put me off were the bad cgi creatures.Much of the first Jurrasic park still looks great now but they used a mixture of pratical and cg.

[@billydrockstar426]

Very good review bro iI'll definitely go check it out, i loved that you mentioned starship troopers that movie was amazing I'm glad you brought it up keep doing a good job

[@tonious35]

I hope this movie opens more doors for more Asian movie productions to involve and get public in North America. I so want Stephen Chow to try out one more big movie with his brand of Chinese word-play and parody/comedy while involving a couple of North American casts

[@Fleshcut]

I feel that the giant success of Transformers in China actually changed chinese cinema to the worse. :X

[@TheSlickMachine]

If you're expecting to be pleasantly surprised then there isn't any surprise involved.

[@WordUnheard]

I'm very surprised that you didn't review John Wick 2. I watched it last night and it is a film I think you would absolutely love.

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Review coming soon. I missed it last week because we got snowed in here on the east coast. I just saw it yesterday and it was amazing but I wanted to get this out first because of the timing. (since this just opened and more people would be looking for reviews)

[@WordUnheard]

GoodBadFlicks Nice! I'm looking forward to it. The first ten minutes of this movie alone, were worth the price of admission. And the pencil scene was a nice callback to the story Tarasov told in the first one. I'm glad to see Keanu Reeves back in action films, and he really brings his A game with the John Wick movies.

[@alejandromolinac]

Ahhhh when you live in South Florida... That's never an issue... Then again Car Insurance prices are a travesty....

[@DanCruz409]

Before I watch this video,I saw an ad for the same movie.😂

[@rig-zag]

Among all else, The Great Wall is actually one of the best 3D movies to come out in the past decade. Its seriously top 10 quality and the depth and immersion more than make up for the CGI fest.

[@terranova1203]

I saw this other day and I loved it too. I'll be watching it again!

[@tylerskiss]

I'm in total agreement. I also loved House of Flying Daggers and I like Andy Lau a lot. The film was ok... the monsters looked far too artificial and after the big first act battle, the film becomes a bit of a slog fest. There was also some sloppy editing, especially in the opening camp attack where Damon's character kills the first monster. It was a wild concept and they needed to go balls deep to make it work, but they held back and that just made the film feel goofy.

[@runemesa]

I loved this movie, and it had very, very few parts that made no sense. I think the only thing that made no sense / wasn't explained was why DaFoe's character was allowed to roam around and why he was there, period.

[@LivingZombieJew]

That movie should be seen in 3D, all that slow-mo moments are much better then.

[@AudioGardenSlave123]

By color missing these days, you mean orange and teal color correction. There's color... it's just always the same two colors.

[@NativeTexMexican]

I thought it was okay... & the unique nature of the creatures was pretty refreshing.

[@JesseWolfboy]

It's "DP." Nobody says "DOP" anymore, Cece!

[@kevind814]

With all the catering to China Hollywood is doing to enter their market, nice to see that it flows both ways and that Damon is the star, though perhaps the marketing in China has him as a footnote.

[@azraelswrd]

Not with Matt Damon's head floating high and dead-center of the poster. China likes to use white people to sell their movies. Brown people or wookies, noooooooooooooooope.

[@kevind814]

I meant maybe in China the movie poster is different and has someone else as the focus.

[@azraelswrd]

You can find the Chinese movie posters on-line. Matt Damon is still the center of everything.

[@TheKromusDevice]

House of Flying Daggers was pure art, I really liked Hero too, it also had the over the top color palette.

[@MrFurious176]

It definitely felt like a Chinese movie trying to be a Western action film. It didn't quite work, but I ultimately enjoyed it a lot.

[@getsugatenshou4309]

Only recently saw the movie..avoided it because of the trailer, upon watching however, I enjoyed it immensely!

[@Egore]

The director was smart using Matt Damon. The only reason my Grandmother saw it was because she likes Matt Damon, she thought it was shit but they have her money.

[@renanmiranda3531]

Goodbadflicks likes all the movies that me and critics hate, thats weird how movies have so diferent reactions in people.

[@shawklan27]

Renan Miranda true

[@blackwaltz463]

Not always, he disliked Bye Bye Man and Blair Witch, which where shit.

[@Iggsy81]

I just keep hearing Team America MATTT DAMONNNN in my head lol

[@joseneto5833]

The warrior armours in this movie look's like power rangers hahahaaa!

[@simonpsychosis2812]

I hope Oberyn Martell lasted longer in this than he did going up against the Mountain, jeez.

[@phillee8262]

I love the house of flying daggers

[@lyndonwellington1269]

Hey Cecil where's the review for john wick 2 ?

[@GoodBadFlicks]

It'll be up in about 15 minutes

[@lionheart1013]

Plus from the Sounds of it, It sounds like the Marketing was WAY off

[@Horror666Lover]

The House Of Flying Dagers movie kind same style of Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon I enjoyed both films.

[@icky46111]

TL; DR: Loved it, would recommend it. The "bad" things, to me, are minor at most. I'll admit, I at first avoided this movie because I was rolling my eyes at the possibility of it being a white savior sort of thing, or even having Matt Damon's character be some sort of white-wash, but when I went to see the movie, I was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't. Well... okay matt damon did kinda save the day, but he wouldn't have been able to get anywhere close to it without Lin. It was just as much her movie as it was his, if not more so. I found that the reason for Matt Damon's character to be there made sense, both historically and morally. Western cultures have always had a different view on weaponry than eastern cultures, and they illustrate it fairly well in the movie with the "black powder" dilemma. I didn't know who was directing the movie or what the crew was like before going into the movie, but just watching it, I could tell it wasn't a movie made in the USA because of, as GBF mentioned, the use of color, and just the level of chinese culture that was ingrained in the movie.

[@orochirel]

Big productions means less freedom and more interest in the investors , right ?

[@masungayongiro]

thought it was a power rangers movie when I saw the armies gathered up

[@cartoonhistory353]

ight this is how i see the ceo of the movie company was like matt damon matt damon

[@phillee8262]

it's his movie Matt rules

[@TheMoviePlanet]

Fantastic film, and looks great in 3D.

[@TechGamesAU]

"Dozens of people" lol

[@clownprince88]

I loved House OFD but i felt overall that Hero was a much more entertaining and engaging film with amazing , if a bit cartoonish , action scenes . I liked the story much more also

[@5TailFox]

Yeah. It's no Comet, Butterfly, and Sword but, House of Flying Daggers *is* a damn good film.

[@5TailFox]

Also, I liked the Jackie Chan/Adrian Brody movie better. Can't remember the name of it though.

[@VideoCop]

THIS MOVIE HAS ALREADY GROSSED 224 MILLION DOLLARS WORLDWIDE (not including US dollars yet) Thats insane. It's so crazy that movies can be so crap and still make so much money, haha. Since its a chinese movie, and their market is so huge, is it just a given it's going to make a ton of movie? Also side note, I am surprised a ridiculous movie like MONSTER TRUCKS lost so much money, as the concept should have worked in a place like China or other asian countries...right?

[@cretinousjester3475]

Maybe if they spiced MT up a bit. Have one truck have like an alien inside like they did in the movie. Have another be like cybernized with chainsaws and drills and lasers and shit. A third could be like possessed by demons and another haunted by ghosts and undead. Instead of just one type, have like several actual different MONSTER trucks go at it.

[@VideoCop]

that would be insnae lol

[@ZigZagPaddyWag]

Going to see this

[@5stardave]

The only thing that could have improved The Great Wall is a shower scene with the lead actress and the rest of the Blue Corps. That and maybe a Bollywood dance number.

[@Tomb76ski]

Such a shame, it is rare to get a review from you for Asian/martial arts type film and it was a let down for you. Maybe review one you liked?

[@craytoncaswell4558]

I liked this movie, with some caveats. The race politics in this movie are a Western thing. Really, it's cultural politics, and I dislike how the primacy of race in America overshadowed the cultural questions the movie brought up. The movie shows an understanding of Western individualism that has some accuracy but vastly oversimplifies it. Damon's character, all his life, has had to be subservient to lords and develop his skillset under extreme pressure in order to survive. This is accurate in general to how the West works, being valuable in order to be appreciated is a thing, but there is a lot of subtlety of what a valuable person is and an entire philosophical tradition of mercy, love, and goodness that is fundamentally ignored here. They treat the Western culture as more ruthless than it is. It makes sense for the Chinese to do this and I don't begrudge them the viewpoint, but I am one of those freaks who thinks that conversation should have been deeper and more balanced, even if it made the film drag a bit more and made it excessively brainy. The Chinese present their own culture in a pseudo-communist light where belonging to your society and trusting your leaders outpaces your individual value in practical terms, but leads to unified action and identity that makes the group formidable. It glosses over some of the questions that come from hierarchy and conformity, but it is also accurate in general to how Confucian societies work (and theoretical visions of communism). Chinese social philosophy on film is not great, but they do have Hero, which is very very good and better than what the West puts out most of the time. People should recognize that there is no entertainment of this kind without a philosophy, and I wish it were done better across the board.

[@windseekervideo]

Chinese reviewers actually hate House Of Flying Daggers.

[@ShadowPredator31]

go go samurai rangers...

[@Openthemeyes]

no one better give power rangers any shit since the color scheme on the suits are the same as the generals in this movie.

[@mastiffmythslegendsandlore]

The monsters were mongoalans

[@nodinitiative]

Western liberal logic - An action movie with an Asisn guy beating up white and black people and ending up as the hero, awesome badass. An action movie with a white guy beating up Asian and black people and ending up as the hero, movie to be considered as racist and sexist. FYI - I'm an Asian from Southeast Asia.

[@LoWCaSh1]

nodinitiative nobody said its racist

[@blackwaltz463]

That was not the reason what people where complaining. They thought that Matt Damon was going to be a Chinese character (like when they cast John Wayne as the Mongol Genghis Khan).

[@airbomb34]

It's and alright action movie. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Also China could use some diversity.

[@melrose1138]

I felt just sad seeing they re making my ancestors a mini godzilla

[@starwish6278]

who's your ancestors?

[@melrose1138]

Starwish Armedwithwings huns

[@starwish6278]

Melinoe Rose wait, the huns are dinosaurs in that movie? oh well, my condolences. but I'd want my ancestors to be mini dinosaurs, that'be cool

[@azraelswrd]

Lizardpeople. Mongols were just a red herring.

[@melrose1138]

azraelswrd fun fact huns kept attacking china so they built walll it was waaay before mongols existed

[@richarddeese1991]

Thanks. Yeah, this movie really didn't do it for me. But... I *_LOVE_* "The House of Flying Daggers"!!! tavi.

[@silveravnt]

any matt Damon is too much Matt Damon

[@saltoftheegg]

How dare you suggest that something isn’t racist! Everything is racist!

[@426mak]

You are entitled to your opinion but I thought 'House of Flying Daggers' was a disappointment. If you want to watch a great Zhang Yimou film try 'Terracotta Warrior'.

[@rafaeltrivino1790]

Needs more Chinese cowbell.

[@amstel5468]

This movie belongs on BadBadFlicks 🐗

[@jayro4113]

He let you down on... Colours... That's what I got from this review... Lol 🙈

[@feuryie]

I was initially interested in this, until I saw matt damon in it. I prefer asian flicks to not star western characters just for "appeal". it didn't really do much in seven samurai and from the sounds of it just doesn't do much here. stick to making a good story rather than trying to force appeal and i think such things should do better.

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[@dark1810]

romance interest is "straight out of hollywood" but strong warrior women commander using melee weapons is TOTALLY REALISTIC and not a massively over played Hollywood trope from the "current year" ? hrm

[@xKomodithrax102x]

I think he meant how, in hollywood, the two main characters that's a male and a female ALWAYS get together in most movies, no matter what. It's like when there's two people of opposite gender is in the same movie that's the main characters, they HAVE to put them together. We hardly see when this isn't the case- one example where this isn't the case is Pacific Rim though their relationship is up to interpretation. As for the strong woman using a melee weapon...so? I don't get what your trying to say with this one.

[@ThreadBomb]

+dark1810 Gee, do you think maybe it's trope from Asian action movies? Or have you not watched any of those?

[@mr.sinjin-smyth]

Women with super model bodies in reality can't fight like that. It's just a made up fantasy NERDY BETA MALES like to fantasize, something true alpha males know better than to fall for. The Chinese and Japanese are long known to enjoy fantasizing about strong & beautiful warrior women in their shows (anime and live movies alike). It's sad how nerdy meta males don't want to identify and look up to Strong Alpha males no more, and just want to be submissive to females. There's nothing wrong in upholding and respecting traditional masculinity, while still showing respect for women. It's simply a beautiful sight seeing a strong man & woman stand side by side and complement each other, rather than domineer over the other. Isn't that what EQUALITY is all about?

[@apanapandottir205]

Alpha and beta-males is not a real thing. It's just what insecure people say to pretend that they are tough.

[@andrewvincent7299]

@@apanapandottir205 You're an idiot and you let that pansy Adam ruins everything convince you of that. There are already many studies that an alpha always rises within a group of males to take charge. You obviously don't identify with a male like that lol.

[@jayb9540]

as a mongol, iam offended by this trash movie

[@blackwaltz463]

Mongols where komodo-dragon like creatures.

[@OttoVonGarfield]

I would think the great wall would offend mongols in general, but I'm pretty sure they got over it.

[@TheStatisfiedOne]

jay b haha they made u look like lizards haha

[@percunos487]

So youre offended for something that happened more than 700years ago or so ?

[@jayb9540]

iam offended by the depiction of something that happened more than 700 years ago or so

[@theohyeahkid8500]

Personally I like it -8/10

[@HERITAGE12]

To all those eejits complaining about whitewashing do a mental game. Remove matt Damons character from this and ask yourself - who's speaking English. Cause that's one of the reasons he's in it. Pretty much everyone else is speaking mandarin. There even a bit where the commander lies to him about insulting language being aimed at him. Hell there's even a pro China bit where they compare civilisations. Sometimes I wonder if sjws have brains at all. On the film I view it as a kids version of "aliens" set on earth during the middle ages, and in that light it's a hell of alot of fun.

[@hugh-johnfleming289]

Kinda fun, toooooo much CG, no script. What a wasted opportunity.

[@Umcarasemvideo]

4:20 Holy shit look at that axe, it's ridiculous.

[@numbers9to0]

Yeah, armor had color. This no clever use of color. It's just colored armor. There is no real idea behind this.

[@mormegil231]

Really compared to Flying Daggers and the Hero this really looks stupid...

[@ksc1406]

Spoiler: GoodBadFlicks was paid for this review

[@obiwankenobi661]

this was a 4/10 for me. tone and intensity all over the place. plot holes, missing character development and bad cgi top it off. oh and waay too cheesy

[@phillee8262]

they look like power rangers

[@chantaltestman6916]

I didn't have any interest for this moving. Personally do watch Chinese fantasy action movies but very selective.

[@augustwest5356]

I completely forgot about this movie, and thanks to your wonderful review, I can go back to ignoring its existance

[@thegood9]

There's too much Matt Damon in ANY movie. To me, he's one of the most overrated "actors" on this planet. It's a miracle he gets work. but, I guess if Melanie Griffith can...

[@iunary]

you know i think im gonna watch this^^ so trump can tell the chinese he will fight their movies because they are stealing the jobs of american extras xD

[@Heavy_Metal1982]

Oh wow this sounds awful!

[@marlowkaplan3584]

I don't like matt damon