EG4’s new MID - The Gridboss - is it a game changer?

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UnpluggedTexan

Күн бұрын

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@idahoduckhunter Ай бұрын

I’ve been waiting for an actual install video of the gridboss. Glad you’re the first one I enjoy your content.

@jameskaiser175 13 күн бұрын

Thanks so much for the videos. I am going to buy the Gridboss as soon as i find out all the parts you used. Seems like every time I order something, there's one more piece I needed. So looking forward to the pdf list. Thanks, Jim

@unpluggedtexan 13 күн бұрын

@@jameskaiser175 I should have that done by early next week.

@MichaelBurko 24 күн бұрын

Just used your code to pick up the combo and looking forward for your schematic! I wish there was a way to set up a delay for the Smart Ports on the GridBOSS. This would be especially useful for shutting down an HVAC condenser gracefully to avoid potential damage (with HomeAssistant by turning off cooling if power outage is detected)

@oscarafghani3394 25 күн бұрын

Great video as I am a new DIY solar trying to learn. Would you please add to your PDF or an additional video or document on what types of permits, permissions and engineering drawings are needed from the city, power provider, etc for your system, for off grid vs net metering (I know it differs in different locations, but it gives people an idea what it takes to do a DIY solar system). Thank you

@jpfalk11 Ай бұрын

Loving your videos and looking forward to your next video showing the install. I saw the gridboss come on the market but didn’t understand what it did. I’m a contractor builder with some wiring experience but get frustrated with a lot of the content out there which assumes you know solar and or just isn’t explained clearly. I want a similar set up with grid back up, no sell back, and also want a way to regulate my hot tub and pool pump (at night, low sun, or grid down) so they won’t drain my batteries quickly since these are my biggest loads. I could also be cooling my well insulated house when hot out and the solar is cranking, not to mention a future EV hook up. The gridboss looks perfect for this and should ultimately allow for a system that requires less battery storage especially being that I’m in a sunny area. Thanks again for a great video. I’m excited about this set up!!

@uali8020 12 күн бұрын

Thx for the video it was very informative. To connect the FlexBoss to the GridBoss did you need to get a 90amp breaker? and if I need a 100amp SmartPort breaker can I get one from the hardware or is there an EG4 breaker that I need to get?

@unpluggedtexan 12 күн бұрын

@@uali8020 yes you’ll need the 90amp breaker. You’ll need to get it from the supplier you buy your gridboss from. It’s a certain type of breaker that you won’t find at your local hardware store. I’ll have a pdf of all the parts with links to where you can purchase them early next week. As long as you’re on my email list you’ll get it.

@Roll2Videos Ай бұрын

Very nice setup. Very clean

@Espiritiv 8 күн бұрын

So if i have 2-2-2 AL SER cable currently running to my garage sub panel, and i want the inverter and batteries in the garage, I cant connect them to the GRIDBOSS back at my panel/meter location? (no AL wire was mentioned)

@unpluggedtexan 8 күн бұрын

@@Espiritiv give Signature Solar a call on that one. I believe there are some exceptions. One of their engineers should know for sure, and if not they can put you in touch with EG4.

@Archersrule220 26 күн бұрын

Great video! Thank you for the easy to follow walkthrough. Subscribed.

@kingjames1282 Ай бұрын

Will this run my 27kw tankless water heater? It draws 113 amps when in use.

@joshuadiaz6914 19 күн бұрын

@UnpluggedTexan FYI weird break at 9:28

@unpluggedtexan 19 күн бұрын

@@joshuadiaz6914 wish I had a budget for a pro editing crew. I’m a one man show 🤷‍♂️.

@mcconja Ай бұрын

You mentioned only use copper and confirmed in the manual. My 200 amp feed wire is 4/0 triplex (aluminum). If I add the Eaton breaker, aluminum should be fine as the breaker is aluminum rated. Definitely can save money by keeping the aluminum instead of buying 50’ of copper.

@amartins02 Ай бұрын

I was looking at the Flex/Grid boss combo. But having to run copper from the meter seems crazy to me. Maybe adding a coupler to the aluminum going into the main panel and converting to copper then connecting to the Grid Boss?

@apphappy1 25 күн бұрын

I just watched a video where they said that the lugs on the Gridboss aren't large enough to accept the aluminum wire as it is a bigger diameter than the copper.

@jameskaiser175 13 күн бұрын

You can use aluminum if you are using the Eaton breaker.

@billy-go9kx Ай бұрын

Needs labels on the Smart Ports telling you the AMPS!

@frostyfroze7352 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the post, looking forward to more content.. Say I have the 12000xp off grid, can I just wire it into the generator input of the gridboss, and have it run the loads with grid present at the grid boss, what is the transfer speed between grid and generator input and back to grid, can I choose to stay on generator power?

@unpluggedtexan Ай бұрын

@@frostyfroze7352 yes you will be able to hook the 6000xp or any other inverter to the generator port to supplement power. I didn’t want to go into detail on that in the video though as it’s not officially stated you can do it in the manual. But I have been told by tech support that is an option.

@frostyfroze7352 Ай бұрын

@ ok yea thanks, Another question, so with the gridboss installed, and the flex boss in a separate garage, can I have a sub panel in the separate garage from the flex boss directly or will that require another wire run form that house panel?

Ай бұрын

The manual states that it's not to be installed on a flammable material. Is the wood wall a problem?

@unpluggedtexan Ай бұрын

Follow the manual on the install instructions to make sure you meet code requirements. My setup is a temporary setup so I can quickly switch out units to test them.

Ай бұрын

@unpluggedtexan Thanks. That makes sense. As long as nobody is watching this for how to install the products at home.

@jerryfaircloth 29 күн бұрын

###WARNING### If you were contacted to update the grid connection anti rotation brackets on the GridBoss. You may have received torque specs that were WAY too high for the plastic standoffs holding the fuses. The instructions I received specified tightening the screws to 250in/lbs. They should be 80in/lbs according to the EG4 tech I talked to. The spec for the Eaton breaker is only 40 in/lbs so 80 may still be a little high so I am going to use around 60 in/lbs. I checked several of the similar screws and standoffs and none were anywhere near 80 in/lbs.

@tinysparky Ай бұрын

Can it be mounted inside? Is there a remote disconnect button that goes outside?

@unpluggedtexan 29 күн бұрын

@@tinysparky yes it can be mounted inside. And yes you can add a rapid disconnect switch outside.

@Marlin-m9m Ай бұрын

If I understood the smartports correctly you could use one of those ports to hook up a 110V generator, correct? I'm looking to just hook up a portable generator in case there is an extended power outage and my solar is not sufficient. not a whole house generator, just a supplement to solar. this way I can avoid having to buy the chargeverter hopefully

@michiganengineer8621 Ай бұрын

It looks like the settings for the INVERTERS would be full time export, any time of use settings would be in the gridboss itself

@unpluggedtexan Ай бұрын

@@michiganengineer8621 yes that is correct.

@jerryfaircloth Ай бұрын

OK so I took a look at the GridBoss manual and it is conflicting on the temperature. In the specs section it specifies a maximum ambient operating temp of 140 degrees F. But then it adds that lower maximum temp in the written section. I hope this is a typo because if it isnt you would NEVER be able to install one of these in Florida next to your meter if there is any time of the day with sunlight. I guess I will call EG4 monday to confirm as this will cause a complete re-engineering of my system.

@unpluggedtexan Ай бұрын

@@jerryfaircloth yeah my mistake. I actually just added a caption to the video correcting that. It has a 140F degree max operating temp.

@mcconja Ай бұрын

@@unpluggedtexan wonder how important it is to not be in direct sunlight here in the NW. ideally, I would install it on the west side of my house. Might have to build something for shade.

@jtmg11 Ай бұрын

I'm placing one in a conditioned Orlando garage to extend its life

@jerryfaircloth Ай бұрын

@@unpluggedtexan Well I wouldnt call it a mistake, it says in the manual 113 degrees in one spot and 140 in another. I just hope 140 is the right number. :) Great channel you have and I hope this thing is the game changer we think it is.

@unpluggedtexan Ай бұрын

@ thanks for letting me know it said 113 degrees somewhere in the manual. I was thinking how in the heck I came up with that number after a couple people pointed out that the spec sheet says 140 😂. I knew I read it in the manual!

@Zodiac83104 26 күн бұрын

why not just get the 18kpv? is it worth the added cost? i know 16kw output is very nice and that would be why i would get it, but are BOTH needed?

@reviews2you Ай бұрын

One disadvantage to this over using a couple 10 circuit manual transfer switches is if there is an EMP and the smart circuits fail, will you be able to power your loads? Will you be able to access the Gridboss? With the manual transfer switch there are no smarts to go out. Is this EMP hardened? I don't think EG4 has made that announcement that I've heard on this or the FlexBoss but I suspect the FlexBoss will be. Since the grid port on the inverter is bidirectional can you use that one line to pull energy from the grid to charge the batteries with it? Great job mentioning the idle 20w it uses, that is important and I didn't know that after reading the manual! It also appears it's less efficient than the 18kPV with solar to the battery or solar to the grid. Also - I love your videos. You and I think similarly so that may be why but IMO you do a good job laying out what matters and keeping it clear and concise.

@unpluggedtexan Ай бұрын

@@reviews2you unofficial word is that the gridboss and flexboss are in the EMP certification process. So hopefully we’ll get confirmation in the future on that. Yes you will be able to grid charge your batteries due to that bidirectional power flow.

@jeffreyvictor3678 27 күн бұрын

Looking forward to the PDF! Add me to your list please.

@randya9143 Ай бұрын

I started installing my Flexboss and Gridboss today. When setting up the Flexboss, the manual states you have to enable the MIDBOX setting under advanced settings , or Gridboss will not turn on. (and it didn't) In the App and the EG4 Monitor website, the MIDBOX tab isn't there even after the firmware update. Also, Signature Solar tech support looked at my setup/system and is at a loss on what to do. I got the Flexboss wired and powered up, but the Gridboss is not playing nice..... Was told I need to wait until Monday for the really smart EG4 guys to come to work. 😢

@jerryfaircloth Ай бұрын

Thats good to know. I have not turned anything on yet and there will be a slight delay waiting for the 90a breaker anyway and my battery firmware update cable. Guess I accidentally dodged a bullet. Except that no mounting in the sun for the Gridboss may have me redesigning now.

@randya9143 Ай бұрын

@jerryfaircloth I have to update one of my batteries also. Tested the RSD, and only one battery tripped the breaker. Also, I got an email that my 90 amp breaker shipped today. I used the 80 amp breaker just to get things going (or trying to.)

@CDFJCB Ай бұрын

Had the same issue. Philip in tech support got it up and going. Been working great.

@Just_An_Idea_For_Consideration Ай бұрын

SPECULATION (Correct me if this is wrong): In a completely OFF GRID system, I would think that the LOAD L1 & L2 would suffice, since you are never backfeeding the inverters from the Grid. Power is only sent to the Grid Boss from the Inverters. Having said that, if you had multiple inverters in parallel, it would seem you could supply the output from each system to the Grid Boss, without having to compensate for Phase, and the Grid Boss would balance usage from all sources. So if you had 2 18kPVs in parallel, couldn’t you take the output into one port on the GRID BOSS from that entire system, and then if you add two 21kPV in parallel use a second port, leaving the 3rd port for future expansion?

@Just_An_Idea_For_Consideration Ай бұрын

i now think my above assumptions are INCORRECT

@michiganengineer8621 Ай бұрын

Even if it would work, you would have the limit of 90A in on each of the Inverter inputs. I think it would be more cost effective for a fully off-grid setup to wire things the "normal" way and forget using the Gridboss.

@MrDonking1967 Ай бұрын

Everyone talking about what it can do not one person has connected it so far. How do you know it can do what you are saying?

@unpluggedtexan Ай бұрын

EG4 does rigorous field testing before releasing their products. That being said, it is a new product so I’m sure there will be some bugs that will need to be worked out. But I’m pretty confident this will end up working as expected.

@CDFJCB Ай бұрын

I’ve been using it for 3 days. So far working flawless with 18K PV.