Nice to see people using linning paper .....can definitely see that you're a very experienced tradesman..and a good one aswel. 👍
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
Thanks, you too! Did I tell you I've been to college? LoL
@pgree61769 ай бұрын
Always learn something and always willing to have a go as a diy-er. I find the depth of knowledge and demonstration of products helpful
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
Glad to help
@sanbucaone9 ай бұрын
Well done Phil, going to give this a go on a bedroom. Walls were terrible… I’ve filled out and practically filling the whole wall. Going to gardz the walls as I have the gardz. Then line and will finish walls in that johnstones durable Matt tinted to a colour. Will give lining coat of emulsion to seal then two coats of the durable Matt. Remember the cannon glue size mixed with hot water till it looks like weetabix then top up with water …stunk terrible. Then the next day sets like jelly so you needed to liven up with some hot water. I’m happy trying new methods. Cheers Phil.
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
I know about it and the process but never had the pleasure lol Durable Matt. Don't bother with emulsion first coat. The durable is really good
@andrewmartin8779 ай бұрын
"Some people know about me and four inches 😦 " hilarious 😅, this is why alot of people watch Phil 👍 great teacher as well
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@helas_32169 ай бұрын
Thanks for nice video ! good stuff .
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@lucifarian939 ай бұрын
Been doing papering for years and agree cross lining is just weird, as long as it's different spacing to the top paper , much easier. Also bought an apron and a paper wizz recently why didn't I get them before! . Never using a paper brush again. Oh yes, Olfa knives are the biz as long as you're not too brutal can judge the cut depth to not drag the plaster up. Noticed the Albany , will give it a go and thinner is good, Wallrock can be a bit tricky round corners etc as it is do strong .
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
A hanging brush still has it place, when you need to work a paper it's still handy.
@carlbridge-wk4ez9 ай бұрын
In general I go vertical when painting and cross lining when wallpapering.. Why because it's quicker/less cuts/braces wallpaper better/never going to meet seems. Strips better without needing lining paper taking off usually.. For them customers who change decor every other year😅 Prefer using pulp under wallpapers these days. Much better round angles especially shaping pissed walls. I tend to have to prime non woven when it's a paste the wallpaper going ontop.. Which I never have to do with pulp.. Do you have this problem? Paperbacked papers are dreadful these days aren't they.. I agree with your comments about filling the joints.. It's the way I was taught at aswell.. They will crack with movement eventually.. No need even with 1700 if you allow to soak/stretch and use ready mixed.
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
I still size walls prior to lining... Unless the walls been oil eggshell from.years ago or a surface that's not porous. Call the no woven lining is easy though for corners... Just cut them neat to the angle or corner, don't try over lapping it or wrapping in one. Non woven is the future
@carlbridge-wk4ez9 ай бұрын
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator No I was on about sizing/priming the non woven liningpaper prior to finishing wallpaper.. I've had issues going back to jobs a few years after and finding little bits flapping up.. Easy to fix but never happens when using pulp. I've been in this game as long as you I think.. Similar backgrounds college /apprenticeship advanced craft.. Just feel alot of these products are falling short these days and catered for sales to the Joe public.. Another issue with non woven is it's generally transparent.. Seen it all so many times when decorators /DIY have applied it over overlap paint from skirts and ceilings and it's shown through🙄 Definitely pro's and cons.. Try the wall rock premium 200 for the ultimate smooth finish!
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
@@carlbridge-wk4ez it's why I line... And use tub paste for both papers. You're right about seeing through paper (finish). It's funny when you see someone not line and you see all the un even colours of the wall they went over... All cus the customer didn't have the budget for lining.. or they thought they'd save money for them and go straight over well sanded and Gardz walls Again.. you'll say it like i do. Blind leading the blind
@robster84449 ай бұрын
How does the Albany Reinforced lining paper finish compare to WallRock Smooth?
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
The same, it's very smooth. It's slightly thinner though, which isn't a bad thing for lining.
@dazzlerone8649 ай бұрын
My wife is obsessed with your tips. To the point that I had to take all the polystyrene off the wall (with great difficulty) and replace it with the ballroom stain block and cover that with fiberline and then cover that with 2500 lining paper. Then I left it a week to settle before starting to paint at which point noticed that the stain block was lifting away from the wall. Any ideas
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
What was the stain block for? I'd of double lined with the fibre liner. If it was that bad. 2500 lining is very thick and not easy to handle and hang.
@dazzlerone8649 ай бұрын
The stain block was only on the outside wall just to keep the heat in, fibreline and 2500 The rest. Only the stain block lifted.
@محمد-ص3د8م9 ай бұрын
Hey - would you recommend filling in hairline cracks and little uneven parts in the plaster before lining or would the lining paper cover that if the grade is high enough? thanks
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
I still would do, just for piece of mind. If they are very fine, I wouldn't worry, you won't see them once lined.
@محمد-ص3د8م9 ай бұрын
Thanks @@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@t.dizzle839 ай бұрын
Used this the other day, game changer for paste the wall lining… I did find the joints opened up a bit though which was annoying, also it’s a bit transparent… other then that it’s great, I hate soaking lining paper. Did you find the joints opened ? Only a bit but enough to be annoying.
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
I've always said all non woven papers pull back a fraction once dry What paste did you use?
@t.dizzle839 ай бұрын
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator wicks of course😀
@t.dizzle839 ай бұрын
That was game changer too when I found that out
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
@@t.dizzle83 recently. I'm finding it thinner than normal, then some seems fine.. its very hit and miss.
@t.dizzle839 ай бұрын
I think that’s why I like it, so easy to use compared to any other pre made paste. Goes on a dream
@Cracklerz9 ай бұрын
Getting up down a pair of steps to cut in and roll paste then to get up down to hang the paper,easier to paste couple on table and be on your steps once .
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
no need with paste the wall. less mess too
@Cracklerz9 ай бұрын
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator think about it,you can cut your lengths and paste on the table,and hang once,your cutting in and rolling then getting back up your steps to hang…
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
it's no hardship. whether you paste the paper.... where there no need with a non woven as theres no soak time.. or paste the wall, you're still pasting something.
@Lloyd18859 ай бұрын
Good timing Phil, I've just priced a ceiling with joint problems, I'd priced for walrock, but I'd give this a go, would you say its definitely as smooth as the walrock smooth though? Im painting the ceiling.
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
Smooth as a baby's bottom
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
It's slightly thinner than WallRock... That's the only difference
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
The video was going out in a few weeks .. I moved it around as thought it may go down well sooner rather than later.
@Lloyd18859 ай бұрын
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator so no problem with a couple of coats of emulsion over it then?... I did that once with standard walrock and it looked like id done the wall with fibreglass matting 😭
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
yeah, you find you needed three with it, depending also what side you had on show. The albany stuff is smooth, you'll be fine two coats.
@Cracklerz9 ай бұрын
Get them sockets masked and edge of that frame filled/caulked
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
why mask the socket up.... and why fill the frame up first? lining needed to go on ready for painting the ceiling later that day.
@alberttatlock51049 ай бұрын
Hi why you not cross lining ?
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
That's for you to watch and listen in the video lol
@TheSmithyt9 ай бұрын
Didn’t bring a plank 😂
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
@@TheSmithyt you don't need to cross line anyway if you know what you're doing
@TheSmithyt9 ай бұрын
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator I Phil I do know I’m 38 years in and counting 😂😂
@laughingboyblue32018 ай бұрын
Line whichever way suits your room measurements. If you can see any seems under the top paper I’d sack you on the spot 😂 I’d work with you Phil, cos you talk sense although sometimes a little too much ✌️
@Cracklerz9 ай бұрын
Also pre-cut your lengths if your gona paste the wall,
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
there's no need, like if it was a finish non woven, you work off the roll.
@Cracklerz9 ай бұрын
And tucking behind a rad?
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator9 ай бұрын
there is no rad. but there is a video in March about doing that
@robertlafferty61039 ай бұрын
😅
@uppyoldskool66528 ай бұрын
Phil i hear people saying when using lining paper to leave a 1mm gap between sheets so there is no overlapling.... whats your view . Thanks
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator8 ай бұрын
Well...... Clearly they've never been taught correctly.... Clearly don't read instructions on what the soak times are for lining paper. Allow to soak.... It goes tonite max width, it won't go any more. Butt join all the way If you get a slight over lap it more a case then trimming or the wall may be out. But once dry, you whizz over the walls with some worn sand paper just in case. With non woven like this on the video, it doesn't grow and stretch. As it's a stable product.