Google, China, and the fate of the open internet

[@LouisFoglia]

BTW - Google already has some services in China - like a file storage app. Microsoft has a big presence in China, too.

[@LifeWithWill]

Hey Lou, here's the thing. Why don't you pronounce the letter H in your speech? Not "Uman" it's "Human".

[@Bill-zp2mt]

Love your work Lou, keep it up!

[@LifeWithWill]

@C Yes, I feel great!

[@uddeshyaupadhyay7655]

Thanks for creating such content. Do you think you (or as a matter of fact, any creator) creating content questioning google will have an impact on how widespread the content ends up being? (I think it might, maybe you should check the stats of this video and other videos and compare the trends)

[@fouly1981]

China no.1 d(`･∀･)b

[@RoyMelling]

Hey, it's Roy and I'm watching this in China. VPN on full throttle baby!

[@JameBlack]

За тобой выехали.

[@joshuajoshua46]

Good luck on that social credit score

[@Bill-zp2mt]

That's what they want you to think ^^

[@UnknownGunslinger]

Roy On KZbin 😱👍

[@jujumo5373]

Keep fighting Roy lol

[@avatarpablo]

Man, Beme News should have way more subscribers. This is true quality content!

[@jerryg.8767]

It might take a few viral news stories to do that; usually that's how it happens. Until then, BEME could hopefully keep going and just keep refining its craft.

[@LouisFoglia]

@@jerryg.8767 Thanks guys. My outlook here is that persistence is key. I don't want to go chasing viral content, because that's how you wind up pumping out shitty clickbait. I'm lucky that CNN keeps paying our bills and keeps giving us the space and time to grow. We're in it for the long haul...

[@alvinoid12]

@@LouisFoglia I'm so glad you care for quality and not quantity. My wish is that more people would watch, but then my fear is that as with anything viral it could become low-quality superficial stuff. I congratulate you on your values!

[@johndaly2816]

Some people refuse to sub to it coz it's owned by CNN.

[@enregistreur]

@@LouisFoglia Keep up the good work guys, it will pay off! (also, consider using another platform someday, like... floatplane ? :p )

[@BigKarl519]

Don't Be Evil. You remember that Google?

[@StevenFarnell]

They remembered to remove that from their charter...

[@seppeswart7277]

Between 21 April and 4 May 2018, Google removed the motto from the preface, leaving a mention in the final line: "And remember… don't be evil, and if you see something that you think isn't right - speak up!" lol i guess its just like any other compananny source wikipedia google it

[@patrik5123]

It changed to "Don't be Evil when people are watching".

[@evrythingallright]

also, it's funny to think about it, but Don't be evil doesn't mean be good, it's just when there is a crime happening, evil helps with the crime, good is against it, and google just keeps to the side...

[@mikoparolanto]

The problem with simply saying that Google is too big and should be broken up is that it's a simply critisim of monopoly. He didn't go further. Capitalism always deal with monopolies. Google, Amazon, and other giant corporations should either be nationalized or owned by the workers themselves, but we need to be framing the conversations in democratizing these industries. Private corporations are completely unaccountable tyrannies.

[@cameronr9513]

Loving this anchor he’s got a charm to him

[@SurflFilms]

its cause he's jolly

[@dheeladheel]

cameron rochambeau he’s like the whole channel lol

[@MrRishik123]

one of the most eye opening things that happened to me was when i tried to explain the tianemen square massacre. Or as the the chinese student i talked to called it, we called it the 15/04 protests. I sent them a few videos of China uncensored and she legit refused to believe it until she saw captured video. She had been taught it was simply a protest and didnt learn about the actual massacre part. After sending her a few clips and videos, her entire world shattered and she broke down crying. And questioned why the government was so brutal at the time and how she didnt learn about it. Anyway that made me realise that we all live in our own bubbles and its easy to forget that real people are affected by this propaganda and that they never learned about such events. So this just proves to me that everyone needs to interact with all sorts of people to form a good opinion on the world. Background info: I had just made a few chinese friends at my university( i go to a Russel group university (ivy league) in the UK so we have an incredibly large chinese population of students. Like half the cohort in the london universities for engineering or something ends up as chinese/indian students)

[@xXforgottensorrowXx]

Wow, that's a scary story bud

[@MrRishik123]

@@xXforgottensorrowXx if you ever befriend a Chinese student it may be fun to teach them about it. Just don't tell them through wechat.

[@MrRishik123]

@MAN IN BLACK FACE i sent her the entire Wikipedia page. And a few clips of people during the protest getting shot. Along with other eye witness accounts. And recordings. Still incredible to see how in less than 2 generations people can go from protest to worship of the same government.

[@MrRishik123]

@@juliusnigelmarturillas3629 completely agree there buddy. In the uk they tend to gloss over the shit parts of the british empire at the same time not talk about some of the benefits it brought. (there is a debate to be had if it done more harm than good, i lean on the side of more harm) But i think its reached a point where people are afraid to be proud of their heritage. PS: I personally dont understand why people are even proud of other peoples achievements unless they helped in someway, but that isn't the point.

[@bribraybrai]

Check out Mexican olímpics '68.

[@piyush.ochani]

This channel is pure gold right now. Thank you for the awesome news stories!

[@goforward8697]

Subscribed. Lou, this is important work. Maybe Beme should begin circling back to important topics. Would love an ongoing conversation around this.

[@claydog6422]

Google cares 0 about your life. That is why they Pixel 3 is $1000 trash

[@jjdizz1l]

???? Where the video go?

[@MarkReviews]

"Hello, My Name Is BING"

[@EdLrandom]

#deletegoogle

[@corduroygasmask8075]

"They did not respond to our request for comment." Imagine that.

[@holdmybeer]

at least not a human.

[@David-kg5nn]

Learned some new things. Thanks! Keep up the good work.

[@Riler12456]

Great video Lou! Really enjoyed the discussion and the information. I’m taking a world history class atm and this ties in perfectly ! 🤘🏽

[@borisapple]

you guys should make the audio from these videos short podcasts

[@greygardens81]

Y U M A N I T I E S

[@evrythingallright]

If google seriously starts service in china with their demands, and if people know about this censorship? Do you think there will be other alternatives like VPN search, underground web, etc. or will most of the people just use google except for a minority? What do you guys think?

[@jonnyspace50]

yuman rights

[@vineetdm]

How can we help lou?

[@a.j.5108]

"Don't be evil" has been removed from Google's code of conduct since 2015.

[@christophermurphy8179]

Powerful - thank you.

[@pransaha]

Go DuckDuckGo Go against Monopolies

[@gnothseed8135]

Hey Lou! Wassup? So happy to see you.

[@houseofvenusMD]

The solution won't come from governments but new firms at the frontier of technological innovation. The unfortunate irony of Silicon Valley is that its biggest successes became the monsters they set out to destroy. Apple has become "Big Blue" and Google has gone from "do no evil" to teaming up with it. History in many ways is the story of the present just with different characters. Now it is up to the upcoming generation of tech entrepreneurs to provide solutions that have protections for personal freedoms integrated in them from the outset. We also need serious (i.e. institutional) commitments to reduce the influence of profit motives on corporate decision-making. Tech companies like Google and defense companies like Lockheed produce some of the greatest inventions out there -- we should put those to good use rather than reward their application in surveillance and war.

[@houseofvenusMD]

@A Artisan Humans have been inventing things long before the arrival of western liberal values. Of course they aren't necessary for technological innovation -- I never made such a claim. In the US, the most innovative people tend to be immigrants or the children of immigrants who often do not ascribe to "western liberal values" -- at least not in the way that you envision. The story of America is about people fleeing persecution only to face it here again. Once they overcome it by virtue of action they in turn persecute the next newcomers.

[@voyno]

Well done BEME.

[@bromz8]

so you would rather alibaba or baidu eventually eclipse google and buy them?

[@bromz8]

They already make movies for the Chinese market. Almost every studio puts a Chinese Actor and avoids sensitive topics so they can be shown in china.

[@AdrianAye]

You make the best videos man

[@locabal8354]

i've tried Chinese search engine (i.e. baidu), information is utterly inaccurate, and biased, conflicted region/issue are just downright censored or presented with their version of the truth.

[@jerryg.8767]

That's the nature of any autocratic regime - number 1 priority is eternal political control and survival at all costs. Freedom of speech and human rights are wayyyyy down the list, as they directly conflict with the top priority.

[@deadtoallnohonornohope]

Freedom of speech and human rights allow a Better world a world of communication and choice the government of China is a foolish hateful corrupt shitpile that wants to blind it's citizens to the truth

[@hgos7211]

Can you be any less specific?

[@raquetdude]

Google sacrifices it's bottom line by hiring people based off their identity rather than their merit, let's hope they sacrifice their profit again

[@UnknownGunslinger]

Google - “Don’t be evil” 2000-2018 ☹️

[@firstlast5454]

I'd say google started being evil when they started giving our information to the NSA

[@RedFenceAnime]

Google - “Don’t be evil” 2000-2015 They removed it 3 years ago.

[@UnknownGunslinger]

@@RedFenceAnime oh snap, you're right. My bad.

[@evrythingallright]

also, it's funny to think about it, but Don't be evil doesn't mean be good, it's just when there is a crime happening, evil helps with the crime, good is against it, and google just keeps to the side...

[@RedFenceAnime]

@@evrythingallright It's much easier to know what's wrong than what's right, you might ruin things while you think you're doing the right thing. Tell the truth or don't lie are very different things.

[@officer_baitlyn]

2:56 as someone who just finished 1984 this is doubleplusconcerning

[@zabba7461]

Yuman?

[@MatthewStinar]

I'm pretty sure the only winning move is not to play. But I'm also aware that sometimes you have to humor the boss just long enough to demonstrate how wrong an idea is. A spreadsheet cell can't express a human life, but it can express the profit made by destroying a human life. This makes it very difficult for executives and coats of directors to make sound decisions. Maybe three engineers at Google were going along with a bad idea until they could find a good way to torpedo the whole thing.

[@dhurban]

So how do youtubers like laowhy86 get their info out. Certainly has some matter of fact things to say about China that are not complimentary.

[@sweiland75]

An American criticizing China for interfering with the Intrnet. That is the definition of irony.

[@RedFenceAnime]

You know that google removed their "Don't be evil" motto a few years ago, right?

[@alexalex66666]

And thats why i started searching for alternatives to google services. I quit google searches. Go for duckandgo. i quit using gmail for most of my emails. use proton. Dont want to be tracked in chrome? I got a vpn as a widged and directly tied to the internet conection. There are ways just go search for them instead of complaining how big google is

[@samuelschonenberger]

That "Hello my name is Bing" at the edge of the screen

[@SanderLeppnurm]

You need to talk about the immigration policy that the European Union is trying to push through! Please let the people know because mainstream media isn’t talking about it

[@joshua_sykes]

This is good stuff! Thanks for calling out the big dogs for their wrongdoing

[@BobaGabe1]

Great video!

[@JordanMonaghanTV]

I love Lou!

[@26Fabs]

Is the internet really still truly "free and open" anymore?

[@Jay-pc2ev]

I gotta applaud Google. if they keep going like this, Bing is going to take their spot.

[@marcopolo-zh4je]

Internet Freedom has been dying slowly already

[@JJs_playground]

*Google DO NOT DO THIS.* Don't be Evil.

[@pragmat1k]

If Google does this I guess we all switch back to Yahoo? Because let's face it, no one is going to use Bing.

[@JerryJ84]

Currently in China watching this right now. lol

[@goatzillaroo]

"Hello. My name is Bing"

[@muddi900]

This video is not available in China

[@acho5424]

Quality content !

[@Win_Lots]

Do you write these, Lou? Amazing work.

[@gabrielmoore3640]

im sure he contributes but has a great team behind him

[@LouisFoglia]

Yes, I write them. I have research help on most pieces.

[@abdulhaqshaik7649]

Great Video!!

[@JaredCzaia]

How could they do this. It's just not googley.

[@johnb4306]

And.... demonetized

[@esgee3829]

information bubbles are real. but so too is it difficult to verify information that is fast is also true.

[@Lumencraft-]

That is really a horrible situation. I remember the first time someone in China told me they have no access to social media. At the time he could not even watch a 30 second clip of a broken flashlight I sent him a link to. Some of them don't seem to worry about it I guess, because China vendors comment on my videos from time to time.

[@goonie79]

Let the search engine wars begin... again. The first browser that can be an absolute alternative to what Google will do in the near future will be the pivoting point where they will lose. you've got Brave and Vivaldi browsers, along with Firefox.

[@jonnyspace50]

"Sundar Pichai" always thought it was "Pitch Chai" not "pitch uh"

[@arhodehamel2615]

I currently can not watch certain videos using google chrome that I can watch using Firefox . Google have brought the end of the free web.

[@Max-nh6ii]

If google censors this WE RIOT

[@romanbaranovichi5375]

1. The free and open internet died when Mr Pai ended net neutrality. 2. China in 2010 is massively different from China today, the rate at which China is growing is mind boggling. 3. The hypocrisy in complaining of a single government influencing movie scripts worldwide is hilarious.

[@aleonflex6611]

Let's protest this by using bing

[@maxmurden3063]

Huge*

[@carlfrancis8570]

One step at a time

[@NamooNara]

those jellyfish are really active, are they real? kind of distracting in a good way

[@SurflFilms]

why in the hell does this have only 12,000 views

[@artemisfowl460]

Not To be overly precise or overly german but the anti holocaust denying law is also there to prevent history from being rewritten as some have tried over the years to do just that

[@donhalley5622]

Preserving what factually happened is actually quite different from denying it. In the case of the holocaust, the German government is trying to make sure that the bad things that happened are never forgotten. The Chinese government is trying to make sure that the bad things that happened are completely forgotten. Not the same at all.

[@BarisGulten]

In Turkey Google map satellite images are blurry. However Apple Map has clean satellite images. Why Google doing that?

[@jus2mangue]

0:05 doesn't look like a hand to me xD

[@nickc3657]

Late capitalism really is a version of hell

[@Sebastian-jg9tx]

I don’t think google is being evil... they are providing a better service to them then they currently have- I doubt they will start making movies where china is so noble powerful country

[@longlongtian739]

Good point, but pretty naive.

[@SonGChaNSaO]

Tbh I don't know if I should be impressed or preoccupied regarding China, it's so messed up but it's growth is baffling.

[@tomriley1492]

Googles CEO last name is pronounced (pitch-chai)

[@zabba7461]

Holy cow...don't be evil, right Google??

[@ewjxmes]

Microsoft already does this with bing 😂

[@maxsanandreas1]

I think the only way to properly enter china is by hardware not services. Just like apple did.

[@gerryroberts2897]

DANG, IF GOOGLE FLIPS THE SWITCH ITS ALL OVER 😥😓😨😰😱😬😧😦☹😫😕😔😞😟😢😭🙁😣🤒🤕🤢

[@sebastianwardana1527]

I guess we can say certain stuff about social media that apply to google, in fact alphabet is a social media owner!

[@JoostterLaak]

Probably the best channel right now.

[@basit147]

If CENSORING Halocast Is OK Then Every Thing Is

[@CodyAlushin]

Hello my name is Bing hahahahah

[@JamesRoyceDawson]

If you want to use google services in China, just use a VPN. My friend lives out there right now and we use skype to keep in contact and he sends me new youtube videos he's been watching. It's really not that hard

[@SonGChaNSaO]

That's besides the point tho, it's the implications and repercussions that Google's actions show... and it's scary af

[@Bill-zp2mt]

Google founders at the beginning "Don't be evil", 2018 let's help oppress some minorities in China who want freedom, because of greed/money. The proverb 'You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain' fits pretty good here.

[@JBA512]

So google has a secret project called dragonfly I wonder if they also had a secret project called cicada

[@ToMgRoEbE]

Pitcha

[@CantThinkofaCoolOne]

What is there to like about China?

[@bitshous]

are you guys not censored buy Parent company about teams that you can't talk about. What about that.?

[@1KeyJee]

Just censor anything Google! I already hated you for years. Duckduckgo is going to be my choice of searching information. I'm serious.

[@zZGzHD]

We should set up an organization to send flash drives with privacy oriented software (tor/i2p, pidgin with off-the-record plugin, etc) to China.

[@Mrmegamiloman]

I love you Louis

[@SterlingSanders]

His name is Sundar Pichai (Soon-Dar Pi-CH-i, like the tea, Chai tea.) Not "Picheya." When you get that pronunciation wrong, diminishes your research credibility. Love you guys, just check that kind of stuff moving forward.

[@bowecho]

Goolag. A prison for your mind.

[@menmikimen]

Cool vid

[@davidm.johnston8994]

Nice video

[@Projects_and_Pistons]

Time to switch to Bing 😂😂

[@AmanMishra47]

Wouldn't it benefit people of china ?