Google Will Soon Kill Ad Blockers With Manifest V3 - What to do!

[@Tyvian135]

"Were disabling ad blockers for security reasons" is equal to KZbin's excuse for disabling dislikes.

[@rabidbeaver167]

security... like selling my fucking data to be constantly peddled trash at the least.

[@austria-hungary4981]

Also equal to Roblox's excuse for deleting Tickets back in 2016 "for security reasons" Fuck the Corporatism!

[@lanceuppercut_]

It's not equal, it's worse

[@theoriginaldragon130]

KZbin = Google, literally

[@Agent-ie3uv]

I hope comment section is next so there would be no kiss eas ppl and creator with their shallow hearths emoji

[@antehll]

thank you google for bringing more attention to firefox, we appreciate it

[@AshleyRiot]

This video literally just came out. You didnt even watch the video yet.

[@AshleyRiot]

@beyond your imagination fuck air fryers it’s all about oil.

[@TheSolidSnakeOil]

And thank you firefox for wasting the opportunity.

[@Keniisu]

We need to also pressure Firefox because of their adoption and goal of moving toward Manifest V3 as well. Even though they say they'll do it differently, we can't take that word on blind faith.

[@christopher6267]

firefox is 86% funded by google. firefox exists because google wants it to.

[@White_Slugger]

Fun fact: adblockers can prevent you from being forcefully booted to a sketchy site (sometimes)

[@StopDropDash]

Oh defenitely I have some experience with a few viruses and adware, but since I got an Adblock I’ve been more careful and redirects are immediately closed

[@lithium-wk8nw]

UBlock Origin is the best ad-blocker IMO (assuming you have firefox, ofc because i just watched the entire video and saw it was mentioned)

[@phitc4242]

ublok ftw

[@Dyanosis]

So can proper antivirus.

[@tommyw.9424]

Absolutely true

[@riynyescienceguy5268]

I've stood by google for years. Giving them my data and letting them eat half my ram but this is where I draw the line

[@riynyescienceguy5268]

@Top Lobster None taken. Yeah it's undoubtedly true that people who choose convenience over privacy or security (like I have with chrome) contribute to companies making decisions like this. But I do hope that others start jumping ship after this crap starts to take effect. Chrome sure ain't what it used to be considering how good the alternatives have gotten.

[@dr.shadox4927]

same except i dont care that much about data and it dont eat my ram as people seem think. infact i've always around 10 and 40 tab open.

[@williamshaneblyth]

Their mantra use to be do no evil decades ago

[@Unterhaltungsclips]

@@riynyescienceguy5268 google chrome is like one of the most secure browsers out there. but yes privacy is another thing.

[@williampotter2098]

RiyNyeScienceGuy Why did you stick with them until now? I just don't understand why people used Chrome.

[@corprall]

Not being able to block ads is a far greater security threat than extensions running remote code

[@megametx6541]

Some ads just straigh ahead download your computer a virus without any consent

[@toilet_cleaner_man]

@@megametx6541 those vulnerabilities are making Google money though, so they cool with it.

[@sleepingkirby]

It's not an either/or. You can allow for ad blocking and still disallow running remote code. When you submit an extension, you have to mark whether or not you use remote code in your extension. If you don't mark it as such and submit it when it does use remote and/or if you embed foreign libraries that includes interpreters and/or has encoded/binary blocks inside, the store will reject your extension.

[@gogoftw]

i got a new windows machine last month by the time i navigated to download firefox and ublock , i won an iphone 13, samsung s22 and a discounted rate from my ISP and they asked for was to answer some question and a picture of my ID so i don't get what you are trying to say here

[@majman446]

google do it just for money

[@l.a.wright6912]

Damn this is the most overcomplicated attempt to remove the KZbin dislike button google has ever attempted

[@iceneko9170]

bwahahaha. that might actually be part of their reason for doing it. baby youtube threw a fit since people didnt like that they removed dislikes and complained to papa google. gotta protect those coprorations advertising on youtueb from getting butthurt.

[@tame1773]

Absolutely😄

[@CopeAndSeeth]

@@iceneko9170 I blame all niggas

[@sihamhamda47]

This REALLY hurts the creator of the return dislike extension. They spending many hours programming the extension and even promoting their extension to many famous tech youtuber (including LTT and this channel) for many months, only for it to come crumbling down by Google's latest manifest :(

[@sindurwavesismaturf]

@@sihamhamda47 The Firefox add-on will continue to work

[@DelkorYT]

Google finds the solution to Firefox's market-share issues

[@DHGameStudios]

QUite generous, really

[@brianmc1575]

Literally my thought lmao

[@corbynite]

@yes thanks

[@samyt681]

3% lmao, firefox cope

[@_casanova]

@@samyt681 lmao, chromium cope

[@maxthall]

Everytime they say ''It's for your safety'' it's literally always the exact opposite

[@slayer5922]

Correct, plus it also means they have something to hide.

[@Sillimant_]

Adblocker is not only a borderline requirement to even use the internet anymore, but it's also absolutely necessary for safety dwith how many malicious adverts are out there

[@01NeilHD]

Yep, malicious adverts that Google themselves often allow to reach us, all because there is no desire by them to check what these advertisers are actually doing

[@iamjustkiwi]

Seriously. Having used adblocker for years, now every time I need to use a device without it I seriously wonder how regular folks manage to NOT download malicious programs daily. It's crazy how bad ads are on some sites

[@TheBootyWarriorUnstoppable]

@@MrPlyxan what a nice individual

[@Valfara770]

If you use Firefox I also would advise NoScript since that helps with suspicious sides and I'm able to block googletagmanager on most sides. Not here of course, but that is google owned anyway.

[@Rig0r_M0rtis]

@@iamjustkiwi Just don't click on the ads. It's the visual smog that gets me

[@ydoucare55]

You can guarantee that any time Google claims to be doing something in the name of security, privacy, or safety, it's actually because they want to extract more ad revenue from you or spy on you easier.

[@Beunibster]

They are working towards ending cookies, and I just noticed most websites are connecting to a new google-related URL with a bunch of information in the URL. 🤔

[@drantigon]

Starting to look like China

[@Igor369]

What is the purpose of spying other than shoving more ads into us?

[@Tilvent]

@@Igor369 government

[@GlizzyMan445]

@@Igor369 selling data

[@loudgoat5241]

Google underestimates just how much people hate ads. I hope Mozilla holds firm; this could be their resurgence. The internet is near unusable without some form of adblock.

[@codyryan9789]

the way google thinks of us all: you know, i think i might give all of my life savings to a Nigerian prince

[@Sartheris]

>Google underestimates just how much people hate ads >The internet is near unusable without some form of adblock. EXACTLY!!!

[@SympatheticMonster]

If not, opera here I come.

[@Rov-Nihil]

Just wait until we get AR and its gonna be literally everywhere...

[@drantigon]

@iNSTAGiB it was shown in the video that they do. More than ever, in fact. In a parabolic graph. It will only make them more money, faster.

[@MrTusky]

I've recently swapped from using Chrome to Firefox because I have had heard that AdBlock is no longer going to work for Chrome. I've had enough of ads being pushed in my face for KZbin and other websites so thank you for pushing this awareness.

[@Ben31337l]

To be completely honest with you, I'd rather switch services altogether, youtube is hanging on by a thread at this point.

[@excidium666]

It's ironic to dress this as a security thing when youtube ads promote literal scams

[@gamtax]

And online gambling. Imagine kids watching that...

[@ioneocla6577]

@@gamtax also po*n because money

[@ohamatchhams]

@@ioneocla6577 Meanwhile they're still not allowing small and middle level youtubers to say profanity with the threat of demonetisation, it's reeks of double standards

[@FearMonarch]

@@ohamatchhams just about any big website now is super slanted and only focuses on benefiting their bottom line and honestly the internets not even fun anymore

[@lostintechnology1851]

@@gamtax imagine letting your kids on the internet and not homeschooling them in a remote cave

[@harryhack91]

You know, the whole "safety & security" argument falls apart when you realize that in this current day and age using an ad blocker is sadly a security advice. Because not only ads can be annoying, they can and (some of them) definitely will try to exploit any vulnerability and/or try to scam you. Malicious ads exist and an Ad Blocker is the security tool to fight them.

[@VestedUTuber]

There are ads that will actively mine crypto in the background, using your system resources to make fake money for themselves.

[@zomboids2100]

Can confirm; Was browsing a manga site some days ago I thought was safe. It opened a tab and that tab literally opened to a virus that nearly locked the device I used with a supposed warning that I knew wasn't google since it had a phone number asking to verify identity and stuff. I managed to close the tab after trying multiple times to click out, cleaned everything and it seems to work perfectly fine. I will never not use an adblocker if it means I'll be safe from these malicious ads. And the worst part? KZbin isn't safe from em either, I've seen multiple sketchy ads that I honestly question if this site even checks the legitimacy of what they allow.

[@5226-p1e]

AGREED!

[@5226-p1e]

@@zomboids2100 don't forget the trackers, they are just as malicious as the ads. i have been using the brave browser for roughly 5 years straight because it blocked both ads and trackers and it was getting continued support. but it sounds like something is going to happen to brave since i know they use chrome, but they also have the continued support, so they probably only see this as a roadblock and have already prepared themselves for something better, maybe they fully make their own browser that doesn't require chrome like firefox, these guys are always improving shit which is why ii use them, meaning they always update the way it works, i have seen a few times where google did an update where some ads bled through and shortly after they release an update that goes back to normal in blocking the ads and trackers. so brave follow very closely with the trends on the browser they use, and they probably already know about this and are probably already working on something to mitigate the issues, i suppose only time will tell.

[@RandomGirl119]

A major reason why I started using adblockers was because, back in the day, I kept running into ads that would redirect me to another page as soon as they loaded, and that page would pop up a prompt that was like "We've detected a virus on your computer! Click OK to clean it!" or something like that, and no matter what you clicked on that prompt, it would start downloading a virus. But of course, you couldn't click anything else in the browser because the prompt would just flash at you and make the "No" noise, so I had to End Task the entire browser to avoid the virus. And of course, when a browser closes unexpectedly, it reopens _all_ of the tabs you had open, so I would have to reopen my browser, quickly close it in its entirety again, and then reopen it once again to fully escape. It's not that hard to program your browser ask _which_ tabs you want to reopen because maybe there's a _reason_ the browser crashed or ended unexpectedly.

[@CoryphaeusLux]

“For safety” ah yes, because removing the tool that blocks ads, which a lot of the time are scams and viruses, provides more safety

[@someguy4252]

id argue its less safe expoits have been found before that lets small code run like browser cookie small alowing forced downloads of malware. this will be precived to give google ads more market share over "dangerous" third party ads however one thing i know about humans we're a contraian bunch at nature once comfort is taken away.

[@zeron851]

Yep. Ads by themselves are more dangerous than whatever shit google is peddling. Drive by malvertising is still a huge vector for malware since ad networks don't give a shit and aren't held accountable. Anybody who isn't actively blocking ads is putting themselves at risk.

[@20tigerpaw20]

Oh, it's "for safety" alright. "For safety- of our profits"

[@3Runner95]

hot single girls in your area and grow your dick 6 inches in 3 days..

[@optic5453]

Scams that they allow too.

[@williampotter2098]

I've used Firefox forever it seems. I've never understood how people would rather support Google by using Chrome with the power Google is gaining over every user. Firefox has always done the job for me and I'm happy to see that Google's latest power grab will help Firefox grow unless people are blindingly accepting Google's intrusion into their lives.

[@spartanking9807]

As someone whos used Chrome forever, its just that, i just like Chrome, its what im used to. besides, im sure that people will get to work on churning out hundreds of V3 compatible ad blockers, in my opinion, people who fight over Chrome and Firefox superiority are the same people that fight over Xbox and Playstation.

[@xybersurfer]

@@spartanking9807 what a bad comparison

[@fardel8021]

Cause Mozilla is shit, ff is good tho

[@xX_Lol6_Xx]

Google and all those data mining companies know that most people are willing (and are going) to trade their privacy and freedom over convenience, and it's gotten so far to the point where almost nobody cares about this. Which is precisely what they want, ignorant and manipulable people to make more and more money and gain more and more power.

[@poika22]

You do realize that Mozilla gets most of its funding from Google, right? You're not fighting the man by using Firefox, you're just getting a worse internet browsing experience.

[@efeakkayaa]

First Twitch, now Chrome, underestimating the amount of people that will leave the platform due to the ad increase. I hope they learn

[@Availbillity]

Lup I literally use a addon that reroutes the stream to 360p to block the ad so I can still watch.

[@cjnf11]

You underestimate the technical illiteracy of majority of users. Percentage-wise the majority still will use Chrome. Same as they use Windows with all the unnecessary shit enabled, with lots of autostarting programs and other clutter, turning even decent computers into a lagfest.

[@efeakkayaa]

@@cjnf11 you know you can turn them off right?

[@alexciuc1949]

@@efeakkayaa Yes,u can turn them off…Do most users know they’re running in the background or how to turn them off?NO

[@efeakkayaa]

@@alexciuc1949 a lot of gen z know how to turn them off. If a lot of people weren't using adblockers google wouldn't do these things

[@DLTyrus]

I had no idea this was coming, so I'm glad KZbin (ironically) recommended me this video. I consider not having ads shoved in your face to be a basic human right, and so will definitely be switching browsers if that's what it takes to maintain ad-less browsing. There is literally nothing I value more highly than not seeing adverts when it comes to browser choice.

[@sohumchatterjee9]

Opera GX ftw

[@morphoose]

@@sohumchatterjee9 Afaik opera gx is also chromium based so it also will run v3 correct me if I'm wrong here tho

[@5pherix]

@@morphoose It is, you don't even have to reinstall extensions, you just use the same ones as Chrome

[@K-MintZ]

Brave is a good alternative

[@EmeraldEyesEsoteric]

Yeah, on my phone I use something called AdBlock browser. Works quite well except it still doesn't defeat cleaner update that hijacks the page. Using waploaded is virtually impossible without adbkocking.

[@GhostOfSnuffles]

If Google wasn't so aggressive with their ads people wouldn't block them. There's so many small sites that have figured out they can advertise just fine with small banners that nobody can be bothered to block but for some reason unless it's a screen blocking popup that requires you to click 50 times to go away Google doesn't consider it an ad. I swear Google could screw up sunshine in a blue sky if given the chance.

[@somedude5951]

Chemtrails done by Google... 🤔

[@thedog7494]

Even if they werent aggressive with ads I would still use my ad blocker.

[@davids5724]

They couldn't tell blue sky from pain

[@nonusbusinissus5632]

No, people will block them either way. Im not on the internet to watch adds. Done. I curate what i view, not a f**king corporation.

[@--LZ---]

@@davids5724 couldn't tell a green field from a cold steel rail.

[@honkhonkler7732]

I went from Firefox to Chrome back in 2012. Just switched back from Chrome to Firefox in 2023 and couldn't be happier.

[@2020-p2z]

Every so often, I will disable my adblocker, to see what the state of the internet is without them. Every single time, sites are still serving up borderline, or full blown malware through ads. Browsing the internet without adblock is like walking through the sketchiest part of town with no shoes. Until the day comes when the internet has cleaned up its act, the blocker stays on.

[@stavinaircaeruleum2275]

A better analogy would be walking through a minefield blindfolded.

[@thedemolitionsexpertsledge5552]

@@stavinaircaeruleum2275 while wearing earplugs

[@Smaylik03]

I don't even remember using a browser without an adblocker. It's been maybe 10 years and I've always used some, even on my phone

[@HateMachinist]

Bare-feet at the used-needle part of town? Yeah, that's a fitting analogy. If I run enough tabs, games or programs on my old comp at the same time, the ads on twitch can make chrome crash. It would be funny if it wasn't tragic, because I would never spend a dime on advertised crap even if I had money to burn in the first place.

[@cmbaz1140]

well ...imagine you walk from trench to trench across the battlefield during ww1 backwards blind and naked during the worst battle of histroy and there is heavy fog. having an adblocker is like moving through that same battlefield with a scifi tank equipped with a force field generator or energy shield technology...

[@Adam_U]

When my adblocker would occasionally crash and I'd be exposed to ads for like a minute or so, it's unbearable. It's like taking off a protective suit when you're in a toxic environment with deadly fumes. I can't even fathom how people can use the internet without blocking ads

[@Mobus_]

That's so funny it reminds me of the time I had to use another computer to watch a show and I was confused about the ads, "Is this part of the show?" :D

[@000petar000]

Because majority of the computer users don't know how to install an addon much less what adblocker means. They just use the computer to watch youtube/movies/listen to podcasts and reading news. Most of the people i know just have friends that help them with installing windows/programs/addons for browser and they juse use them. These are the people that are targeted by google, honestly even if they kill their browser it will be worth it for them considering they also own the biggest ad program on the internet adsense. As long as majority of their users don't switch instantly, they'll profit so much.

[@jtc1947]

@@Mobus_ Was it some one else's machine? Did THEY wonder "What is HE talking about?" It might be better (??) if the ads were all at the beginning like going to a movie and watching "trailers" about things to come?? PEACE

[@Craigelz]

1st Jan 2023, selling all my google shares, uninstalling chrome and buying Mozilla stocks.

[@failegion7828]

Eh, because it's not really a big deal to have ads on, and actually supports the content that is viewed directly or indirectly. Not having ads on for websites like KZbin is akin to going up to a take a penny leave a penny bowl, and just taking like 10 pennies and leaving nothing.

[@ColdPotato]

The security and safety they are looking to provide is for their shareholders. They lost the ability to do no evil when they went public.

[@0NoFreeWill0]

they literally got rid of "do no evil" as their official motto like a decade ago or something lol

[@agent__berry]

@@user-sl4ul4nc3t Nobody is talking about you with your 1/10000000000th share of google. we are talking about those who actually have voting power. you admitted you don’t have any yourself so stop acting like you’re being targeted. ppl always looking for a reason to feel pressed

[@Andrew-dh9kv]

@@user-sl4ul4nc3t that's pretty cute that you think people are talking about you when you chuckle

[@Nyilith]

@@user-sl4ul4nc3t yeah…stop, ur not a shareholder with voting power

[@suprememasteroftheuniverse]

Firefox is still based on chromium like the others. What's guy trying to do?

[@phlash65-5]

Firefox has been my main browser since the early 2000's when it was originally called Phoenix and later Firebird, so I have quite a bit of experience with it. I've never had any of the issues people complain about. All sites work for me, and it's truly extension heaven on this side because everything out there works in Firefox without issues. I have around 20 extensions running that completely alter all the web for me, stripping ads, reformatting content, colors, video formats etc.. It's the best browser for anyone who wants to take control of what is coming down their internet pipe.

[@joefratianni8693]

I've used it since 0.1, lately with ublock active and many tabs open on youtube with multiple videos loading, it can get crashy. Otherwise its as good as ever.

[@CJ-wh7ik]

Nice add Firefox team. 2bad Firefox ended 6y ago. All my homies use brave

[@SinfullyHera]

Firefox is a dead meme

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

I used to use Metacrawler, which was the best.

[@sabin97]

@@CJ-wh7ik firefox didnt end. i still use it. and i still update it. your homies probably think a switch flicks the internet on and off.

[@johnnymcgeez5647]

It is ironic that they would do this in the name of "safety", precisely because adblocks are essential for basic security. You are literally not safe without an adblock.

[@Azurryu]

First thing I do on relatives computers is installing adblock. And I'm actually getting paid for making ads... But all these redirects to scam sites, YoU hAvE WoN ads, fake buttons etc can only be dealt with completely blocking everything. Unfornately we're seemingly the only ones who need to follow non-intrusive standards (we're not even using Google and only work for certain networks of news websites). Altough project management keeps requesting ads with autoplaying content and shit. Blocking ads solves a problem, it is NOT and never was the problem. As long ads abuse interactions on a site to bypass a browsers popup blocking, freeze entire browsers and force users to click on them, blocking ads is the most justifiable thing an internet user can do. Sadly and to thr disadvantage of those who don't abuse it to scam and hinder people.

[@runninginthe90s75]

This is a more and more reasons for people to ditch any products with Google name on it. I hate how people keep overhyping any Scroogle/Google products but at the same time they don't realize they are supporting evil company who did anything bullsh*t to monopoly. We need stop supporting Google and let them suffer.

[@AegixDrakan]

Can confirm. I used to get tons of virus warnings and malware, installed adblock over a decade ago, and the problem *instantly* went away. My family still had issues, I installed adblock for THEM... And the problem went away immediately for them too.

[@zomboids2100]

I can confirm this as true; Some years back I didn't think of using adblockers since I figured I'm not visiting any websites that have such so I should be fine. I was wrong: I never realized that ads could pop up on even the most harmless looking site that'd open tabs sending you to other sites that were riddled with spam and viruses. After installing an adblocker those intrusive ads stopped and I could browse at my leisure. And the worst part is that even supposed safe sites like youtube and Twitter and the likes have these bogus/spam ads.

[@skullthrower8904]

@@WASTOIDSUPREME all new updates lead to the nwo

[@bobbarker1476]

If the day arrives when I can’t block KZbin ads, then I’m done with KZbin.

[@AntonioNoack]

Yeah, with ads it's literally unusable.

[@lostintechnology1851]

U will buy se premium

[@turbo2ltr]

this.

[@shaunpatrick8345]

Brave blocks them, so you can install that, create a KZbin app shortcut for the taskbar/start menu, and barely notice any difference in your "work"flow.

[@tangentfox4677]

Hint: Use a downloader so you can still watch videos without viewing ads. Careful, the addiction is real.

[@davewxc]

Add blocking is a critical security tool. With add blocking a site offers content from mainly one source. Often spread across servers and subdomains, but basically still content from one organization. That one source can provide malicious content, but the risk is statistically limited. Without add blocking a site offers content from dozens and sometimes hundreds of different sources. The risk that at least one of them is providing malicious content becomes much higher. Whenever a browser escape exploit is somewhere in the wild, the risk is becomes unacceptable.

[@supermaneuverable]

*ad

[@peachy_lili]

@@supermaneuverable I just don't know why you felt the need to do that tbh

[@thegoodrevbadandyarr4272]

Expect that malware coders have a massive boner for all the new 'market' google is enabling, too, and are already coding furiously to take advantage of this.

[@Azurryu]

There comes more malware from ads than from extensions, I suppose. But look, I won the new iPhone, my PC is infected and Liz (26) from next town wants sex with me.

[@hadifelani]

@@peachy_lili why not? Since when that it's wrong to do that anyway? 🤷‍♂️ "add" is a completely different word to begin with......

[@seinfan9]

It's pretty stupid to think most people will tolerate getting bombarded by ads like we're all just boomers that don't know any better. The internet is practically unusable without an ad blocker.

[@foxtailedcritter]

I am a lazy person but when it comes to blocking adds and getting free stuff I will go out of my way to spite them. If it means using new methods I will.

[@derznohu3410]

ads

[@Br1cht]

lol 😂

[@Valskyr]

yeah dont care + youre a furry and satanist larp

[@Finkelfunk]

The regular minor inconvenience caused to me by having to even acknowledge that people try to sell me things is reason enough to become a nuclear physicist and destroy advertisements on the quantum level.

[@imhappyidance]

find god

[@krux02]

I personally see add blocking as essential for browsing the web. Whenever I accidentally don't have an add blocker installed, I constantly get reminded to install it (by adds everywhere). Whenever I see someone else browser the web without an add blocker, because they want to show me something, all I see is: "no add blocker installed" and I push them to install and activate the add blocker first before continuing. If add blocking breaks, it means the browser doesn't work properly.

[@gmaiI]

and if a websites asks me to turn of ad blocker, I just close the website

[@KJMcLaws]

@@gmaiI I'll try without JavaScript once but if no JS breaks the site, I'll find what I want somewhere else.

[@starshade7826]

@@gmaiI I hear that. I turned off adblock for a site once and it immediately broke my trust by attempting to install malware.

[@mattaomartinez.9817]

its all malware, if it wasnt all scams or invasive I wouldnt mind an ad. But its bullshit.

[@aidanbaker9981]

surely u have adware

[@Metacious]

If the companies know that we hate ads so bad why just not find a more balanced way to promote products without being obnoxious?

[@drxstudio1473]

Because that would be easier, the users cant have a coice of their own, companies have to control even our minds.

[@NightUndead]

Because more obnoxious ads obtain more of your attention.

[@oqocraft2661]

because they don't care

[@exceedc115]

Cuz money

[@ghoulbuster1]

oi vey

[@becyk_du_quebec]

I've been using Firefox for a while now after using Chrome for years and years, and tbh it's quite nice. As a dev it took me a while to get used to the dev tools but I find them more powerful, the browser is more configurable and the Firefox devs genuinely care more about the end user than Google (of course them being an ad company and making a browser is fishy in the first place when you think about it...)

[@axe3854]

are you still able to block ads on youtube through firefox?

[@cyberzombie038]

If they're really worried about security, they'd be investing more into programs that blacklist shady/malicious advertisers.

[@ecmcd]

Yup. My adblocker is not the problem here. If the sites that want ad revenue are not willing to properly curate the ads that are being served on their pages, I'm not going to allow them on my computers, end of discussion. Yes, there may just be a few bad actors, but also yes, they've 100% spoiled the whole thing for everyone else.

[@toastermon2272]

Yeah, that's a pretty blatant lie. It's not like a billion dollar company, that specializes in all things IT couldn't figure out how to get rid of malicious extensions (or Dislike Bombing, horrific comment sections, etc.) in a more surgical way.

[@DanceTranced]

Its about security but only effects decisions that will make them more money not less. Oh and its not about security. Oh and they cant make it disabled by default with methods for advanced users to enable it because reasons.

[@LoLaSn]

Holy shit don't bring this up, I'm getting PTSD flashbacks. ads that pop up whenever you click something on the site, ads that cover your entire screen and act borderless, hiding their top bar and your toolbar, ads that don't stop popping up no matter how many times you've clicked, ads that fool you by having a drawn close button that mimics the actual close button. It's such a disrespectful shady way to go about it I can't comprehend not having an adblocker

[@vru6431]

Blacklisting takes up resources meanwhile making a new engine with checkboxes to ensure the sites not fullfilling the requirements get blocked is the easiest way in the long term.

[@Wasper216]

If it would be about security, then they would straight out ban ads. Many ads lead to malicious websites in the first place 🤦‍♂️ We need to talk about ad blocking on smartphones too and how manufacturers try to avoid you doing it… PS: I use Firefox since the 2000s. Back when they had huge market share due to how bad IE was. Kinda funny to hear, that nowadays a lot of people don’t even know about FF.

[@maggie3060]

Exactly, they are in charge of many ads, why do they allow ads that dont sell anything and just yell "DOWNLOAD HERE" even tho its a scam

[@SKCro.]

*big green download button ads intensify*

[@ekremaslan8068]

firefox android supports ublock and some other extensions btw

[@anon_y_mousse]

@@supercalifragilistaphobic2146 Or what flash games are/were. I miss those days so much.

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

The companies wanting this ads to appear are paying to have those ads show up. The context of them doesn't interest Google.

[@Eichro]

I wonder... It's true that blocking ads is against Google's best interests, but they know that the current adblock users won't settle for a web without it. Are we a small enough piece of the market that they are willing to sacrifice? Or maybe most adblock users moved on from Chrome anyway?

[@WhyName]

Maybe not a small piece, but rather an unprofitable one.

[@matroqueta6825]

You'll be surprised at the percentage of internet users who aren't even aware of adblock's existence

[@TheTundraTerror]

Going off the overwhelming amount of people who use the internet, I honestly doubt enough people will care.

[@DeeezNuts]

most people on chrome with adblocks are too lazy to switch when chrome disables it, cause they think chrome is the best and everything is shit, source: my friends who all use chrome and windows and laughs on me with my FF on Linux, soon i will laugh

[@cultist7931]

@@DeeezNuts How old are your friends?

[@okalsdi]

No problem, there is a lot of money to make by developing an adblock software. Soon there will be a new Adblocker, hosted on Manifest3. Also, if they gonna completely disable the possibility of adding browser extensions or just block certain kinds like adblocker. A LOT of folks will flee from Chrome to Firefox for example. So you really don't have to worry about having to deal with ads 24/7 in the future. Its gonna stay all fine :)

[@vencelfoldi8236]

Usually I'm willing to put up with small inconveniences changes bring for the overall convenience of using something I'm used to. But I, alongside many people, draw a line here. Getting fully used to a new browser is a few weeks, a month at most. Getting used to ads after any amount of time is synonymous with being a psychopath.

[@Xantium0]

used to a new browser is a few weeks. Firefox is virutally identical to use at this point. Just it does lack some fo the features chrome has, and the settings are different

[@lopezlopez7132]

So, you liked THIS video, which is an AD for Firefox...

[@warnertesla8297]

It's really not that big a deal, it's just 5-30 seconds of ads every video. The only ones complaining are people with attention spans shorter than your average tik tok kid

[@walkingonneedles]

@@warnertesla8297 have you ever gone anywhere on the internet that isnt youtube?

[@warnertesla8297]

@@walkingonneedles yes

[@BadVideoWatcher1]

I don't understand why companies think the nonstop advertising is going to influence anyone to buy shit. After I've seen my 400th unique ad within a hour and a half of waking up, there's a close to zero percent chance of me paying attention to it, and a next to zero percent chance of me actually purchasing whatever's in the ad

[@mattk6827]

Exactly. Ads shoved in my face as a consumer immediately make my 'never purchase from' list. I'll go out of my way to avoid those products on pure principle. I have to wonder at what point companies decide they need a new form of marketing. The shove it in your face approach is a fail. Which is why I run adblockers, why I dvr shows and watch them later. I don't do ads and I know I'm not the only one.

[@KleberDKurosaki]

We are the exception not the rule, unfortunately

[@oldgtarz]

In real life, I try to avoid companies I've seen adds from. If they can afford big add campaigns, that means I'm paying too much for the product.

[@LightbulbTedbear2]

@@mattk6827 Their new strategy is to show you adverts that you don't know are adverts. For example, posing as regular reddit/twitter users that just happen to enjoy Product™.

[@OneCSeven]

because they sell more shit after running ads.

[@PlasmaMongoose]

They need to understand that we don't just block ads cos they eat bandwidth and annoy us, ads can also be a source of viruses, worms, trojans and malware.

[@dampseeker]

But they dont care, they get money from ads

[@ObeyCamp]

They know that full well. They're PC users too. They just don't care because they're a greedy, scummy, money hungry corporation who will literally endanger and damage their users' machines for more income.

[@Bluecrimson217]

That's what people in the business call a 'you' problem. They'll keep making money and getting delicious information no matter how many viruses and other malware you get.

[@JoJoUK2000]

I like the ad blocking capabilities of the CCleaner browser. It even blocks ads on KZbin. So cool!

[@Keniisu]

For anyone wondering, this _shouldn't_ affect Brave's browser for the time being as the adblocking isn't done on an extension-level, however this is still a concerning push from Google regardless.

[@corbynite]

Good to know i'm alright.

[@jbardolf2805]

Chromium and Blink are open source either way so I imagine brave could always just create a MV2-supporting fork

[@jeremyjohn93]

'for the time being" being the keyword. even if they use the enterprise version it will just only delay it by 6 more months.

[@KatyaAbc575]

Why are you commenting this? That is litterally what MO said in the video.

[@Bullminator]

Brave can however smell the money in future and just disable it.

[@chauvetwoods95]

For anyone who doesn't like the Firefox defaults, Librewolf is a great alternative, it's a fork of Firefox with privacy as it's focus.

[@flooku987]

Sacing this 4 l8r

[@JonnyHorseman]

Waterfox is good too

[@gill5643]

I thought Waterfox was bought out by a Chinese company like Opera was, too.

[@desktorp]

Maybe we'll be able to switch to Ladybird in the future

[@zanegandini5350]

Librewolf has pretty bad compatibility though, same as if you harden the security of standard Firefox. It's the only reason I have a more standard configuration of Firefox, as a lot of websites just refuse to display correctly, and I'm not enough of an expert to toggle the individual settings to fix that.

[@LinkEX]

As others in the comments section, I hope this will backfire spectacularly. Though my guess is, Google will backpedal similar to how WhatsApp did with the _ads_ if they realize that this change is enough of an incentive for people to finally switch to an alternative. *Edit:* Thanks for pointing out the typo Mouse Scarbrows, fixed now.

[@Leo_8753]

My guess is just that the majority of people won't know what an adblock is and they'll keep using google

[@Just_Being_Honest]

@@Leo_8753 Is it the most probable outcome, yes. But one could hope for an alternative outcome.

[@mousermind]

*ads (short for _advertisements_ - notice the lack of a second d.)

[@iaimboti]

@@Just_Being_Honest Eh, even my tech "illiterate" friends all have ad blockers somehow

[@FAB1150]

@@Leo_8753 I don't know about that, even the most tech illiterate people search for "how to remove ads". The question is if they care enough to search for something else when the answer on the websites will be "get Firefox" instead of "install this simple extension". Probably not, but let us hope! Lol

[@GeddyRC]

I switched to Firefox years ago - I have to say, while I like it a lot, it definitely has some quirks. It won't play certain videos, and I'm not a huge fan of DevTools for web dev stuff. But overall, it works just fine and that's that. I just can't support Google with this type of thing. They cannot be in charge of the ads AND the browser that renders them. That is a massive conflict of interest and if you'll allow me to put on my tinfoil hat for a moment, I can only wonder how long Google has been planning on shifting everyone to their browser for the purpose of control when it comes to advertisements.

[@LeTtRrZ]

I’ve used chrome basically since it was first released. If they go through with this Adblock killing, I’m done. Before I started blocking ads, my computer got infected with malware several times, necessitating system restores or OS reinstalls. Since I started blocking ads, roughly 10 years ago, my computer has been infected maybe once. Ads are absolutely a security risk to your machine. Anything less than total elimination of ads on every site is unacceptable in my view. If Google prevents me from achieving this goal, I will switch to Firefox.

[@Kr4zYm0f0]

my situation is exactly the same. i used to have all sorts of virusses before i started browsing ad free

[@yourmum69_420]

I use Brave AND Ublock Origin at the same time. I never see ads, and from what he says in this video it seems that this should continue to be the case. Brave uses the chrome engine (so feels exactly the same), but there are no ads. You should just switch to Brave already

[@SKaede]

Used Chrome for over 10 years, switched to Firefox for a week now, it only took 5 minutes for both install and transfer all the password, bookmarks and others (It's automated after installed with a check box). So far, browser run smoother, less ram heavier, Ads blocked better, rid of lots i had to manually block elements before on chrome (also i don't see "please disable adblocks" request from sites anymore). Down side so far is only the video player somewhat a bit clunk for me but that's up to each other reference. 100% never go back to Chrome again.

[@helianthe3457]

I wouldn't wait and switch now. I switched like 2 years ago and firefox+ ublock origin is just the recipe for the best internet experience nowadays

[@yourmum69_420]

@@helianthe3457 why not brave?

[@laszlomiko9085]

I'm slightly surprised google isn't getting the anti-trust treatment for crippling almost every privacy focused extension. 🤔

[@Lennyst]

Bribery isn't illegal. But Bribing someone too little is.

[@laszlomiko9085]

@@Lennyst Do you mean that Google is bribing the government? The thing is that governmental institutes in many countries switched from supporting only Internet Explorer to only supporting Chrome. Which in theory should make them a concerned party. Especially given that manifest v3 also kills anti-virus/ anti-malware extensions.😕 Than-again those institutes never really seamed overly concerned whit privacy and security. 😑 (I just realized, manifest v3 also kills extensions for content downloading (like the ones for youtube videos)😱)

[@Homerboy44]

They got slapped by lawsuits from both Illinois and Europe for ad-related reasons, so of course Google got what they deserved. Doesn't change the fact that they're taking their problems out on their customers. Typical for morons with money in their heads.

[@AegixDrakan]

They pay too much in brib- **cough** Sorry. "Campaign Contributions", which gives them a LOT more leeway.

[@guilhermehank4938]

@@AegixDrakan Please, we call it "lobbying" and people disturbingly dont call it what it is, "legalized bribing"

[@LukaVulic]

Googles products and services have been working progressively more and more against its users since dropping the don't be evil motto.

[@Schmidteren]

Started using Firefox yesterday. Took a bit to setup how I like. But so far ao good. Working really well! It had all the extensions I needed and used on Chrome. I could even import all my opened tabs as well. Good stuff!

[@delilas2398]

A noteworthy thing to mention is that even though Firefox uses "a completely different web engine", on the user side of things it's basically the same. No reason not to switch, you'll get used to the slightly different look in a day or two.

[@nikhilkoganti]

Two other noteworthy mentions which are life changing: Firefox has built-in pip mode which works flawlessly and firefox has the option for ctrl + tab to switch between 2 most recent tabs. Both features are not available on chrome by default.

[@santiagoalmiron9596]

Nowadays, the problem is not the browser engine. It is the extra features and google services around it. For example, I switched back to Firefox a couple of years back and it was a little annoying to switch the password manager. Another thing, it is google search results. Google website does not deliver the full functionality to Firefox, that specially happens on the mobile version (weather, maps, reviews, etc)

[@sparkclouding5302]

From what i can see it looks less featured that the current browser I'm using (Edge)

[@chris-hayes]

@@nikhilkoganti omg Chrome not having any way to switch between most recent tabs boggles my mind. Like many others I use an extension with an "ALT + W" binding to do that.

[@stan.rarick8556]

@@nikhilkoganti I also like the option to "when a new tab opens, switch to it", because if I open a link in a new tab it is because I want to see it. If I don't want to see it, I don't click the link. So, on other browsers, I have to 1) open a link in a new tab, then 2) move the cursor to the tab and click on it. Stupid

[@SpicyClover]

This is gonna backfire on them the moment V3 is active. People will just find alternative ways to block ads because in the end of the day...PEOPLE DONT LIKE ADS.

[@belphegor_dev]

Sadly, people who use adblockers are in the minority. Most people just put up with the ads.

[@AhsimNreiziev]

@@belphegor_dev I don't terribly mind ads, except on sites like TVTropes where they have such an ungodly amount of them, with every single one of them being a moving one as well, that they completely hog up my RAM space and overheat my computer to boot. But other than that, the main reason I use an ad blocker is to rid myself of the moving thumbnails on KZbin's home page. I have somewhat of a sensory oversensitivity, so browsing YT's home page without something to restore the thumbnails to pictures-only is basically hell for me. And since YT itself doesn't have the option (stupid them), ad ad blocker is the only method available to me.

[@soomi]

@@belphegor_dev Are you new to the internet? most people DO use ad blockers

[@malgtuzi5020]

@@soomi Not true. Your average person on the internet has never used an adblocker. It is true that every year, more and more people start to use them, and among younger age groups slightly less than half the people use it, but roughly only 27% of people actually have adblock.

[@williamduncan7401]

For some basic adblocking you can always use /etc/hosts

[@toshineon]

To quote the intro to Mirror's Edge: "Once the city used to pulse with energy. Dirty and dangerous, but alive and wonderful. Now it's something else. The changes came slowly at first. Most didn't realize, or didn't care, and accepted them. They chose a comfortable life. Some didn't. And those who refused to conform were pushed to the sidelines, criminalized."

[@xbigbooshx4643]

seems very relevant now, of course. The "outliers" like us whom refuse to obey the "soft" implementation of future dystopian ideologies and business currently and soon to be expected. (Agen-da 2030) I do not want a future like Minority Report where ads are constantly spammed at you via hologram and precrime units arrest you for crimes you haven't done yet.

[@voidimperial1179]

@Dante S LOL you're blind

[@CopeAndSeeth]

@Dante S cope nigga

[@_wayward_494]

@Dante S absolutely

[@thechugg4372]

Didnt you read "the changes came slowly"?

[@ZenMasterChip]

I was a Netscape user and home computer user IT when Microsoft stuck their fingers in the works and changed life for us back then. I've been a staunch supporter of chrome up until now. I can't believe their brazen use of the word "malware" to describe tried and true adblockers that I've been using for months. It's bad enough they turned them off and labeled them malware; but, to forbid me from making the choice to turn them back on is outright infringement of my rights and you're right. Firefox, Mozilla has been around a long time, and we could do well to support them and Google's attempt to outst Microsoft and try to take over the world. Pinky.

[@marc-andreservant201]

Manifest V3 limits dynamic filters to an unusably low number of entries. But there are no limitations on extension size. Theoretically you could hard-code the blocklist into the extension and ask Google to review a new version every 4 hours. Make it really obvious by providing a diff of the source code every time. It probably won't work, but they'll get the message.

[@aaaaaa-hh8cq]

LoL 😂

[@ReVDeatH]

"The process is the punishment"

[@justabunny999]

Or use a botnet to Just Bully them.

[@misterdeedeedee]

is there a way for extensions to read off the hard drive or their own cache or are they 100% sandboxed? if not, just come up with a tiny self contained program the user runs that will then auto run at a specified interval to update this file with the block lists. Or just patch it right into the extension itself, but I don't know what the browser would be very happy with an extension that changes its ID / hash 3 times a day. even still it doesn't really address the problem of not being able to block ads before they're requested or loaded and all that like we can now.

[@God-yb2cg]

At that point they would finally manage to ban Raymond for "abuse"

[@systemhalodark]

Firefox may have its ups and downs, but it has served me well since 2003. Since I don't follow these things much anymore, I admit I was shocked to see just how ultra-dominant the Chromium stuff had become.

[@neoqwerty]

Most times I had issues with Firefox, it was a memory leak and that's why I just open some sites only in Edge.

[@ChaosTherum]

I'm guessing because of how much more performant chromium based browsers are. I've always found Firefox to be much less stable, and once they removed the proper extensions back when they did that huge rewrite I haven't had a reason to use it anymore.

[@garcjr]

I've was using Netscape back in the day and I use Firefox today.

[@Katze822228]

@@ChaosTherum the last time i had performance and stability issues with firefox was in like 2014 or 2015. After that they did a big update and since then firefox was completely stable for me and had very good performance too. I can have 50+ tabs open and loaded and its just as responsive as with 1 tab. The only time it lags out is if thousands of gif emotes get spammed in twitch chat but chromium based browsers don't do any better in that scenario.

[@Wasper216]

That’s simply because of Android as it comes with Chrome by default.

[@xard64]

Also a remainder that Google can get rid of the Chromium based browsers by closing the Chrome development and doing couple of "security upgrades" to their services making the web "safe and secure" again. (also making sure the ads are displayed as intended)

[@marcogenovesi8570]

Uh not really, the source is still out so others will take over and fork it. That's also the reason Google hasn't done the same trick with Android, it takes very little for other vendors to just hard fork and do their own independent thing instead of just rebrand Android

[@excidium666]

@@marcogenovesi8570 Can't really rely on "people will just fork it" with massive projects like web browsers. It would be a very different situation for chromium forks without all the heavy lifting coming from google upstream.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@excidium666 There are multiple smaller corporations in the downstream plus Microsoft and Samsung so it would still be mostly corporate-sponsored even if Google pulls the plug. If we talk about the browser engine component aka Blink there are A LOT of corporate parties involved that would very much like to keep it maintained as it's a core library of their product/software/whatever. So in a post-google world it would not change major version every other day, but they can afford to keep it maintained and do some additional development on top

[@katbryce]

Chromium is a fork of WebKit (Apple Safari), which is a fork of khtml (KDE Foundation Konqueror), so Google can’t close-source it.

[@visitante-pc5zc]

Source code is the least of the problem. It will be hard to find people to work voluntarily to keep the software up to date

[@bzdtemp]

Firefox is great. Fast and really good features, just a few examples: - Build in screenshot function where you can easily "shoot" an element, what you see on the screen or even the whole page as in also what you'd have to scroll to see. - An easy way to open multiple bookmarks with one click, like fx. I've bookmarked three news sites and I can open them all with one click. - Easy to reopen closed tabs, and if you do they remember their history so you can go back in them. - Easy to search history.

[@tbraghavendran]

What about brave browser 🤔

[@Just_Being_Honest]

This just seems like pure greed. Google is a multi-billion dollar company that makes billions off of Ads alone. And now you’re telling me that they want *_more_* money? Yeah, I’m good. It’s time to switch browsers.

[@ticketforlife2103]

Do it!!!!

[@captainrex4070]

Welcome to the Chad side of the browser

[@bm1259]

clearly you havent heard of the "line must go up" philosophy that dictates literally everything

[@Just_Being_Honest]

@@bm1259 You’re right, I haven’t. Now that I do know about it though, I’ll be sure to look into it.

[@LilacMonarch]

They're all like that. Corporations want nothing but more growth and profit, they don't care who or what they abuse in the process. Don't believe their lies.

[@austria-hungary4981]

Google: *is sick and tired of adblockers and plans to kill them with Manifest V3* Users: *develop an ad-blocker compatible with Manifest V3* Google: *surprised Pikachu face*

[@mimzsublimz7440]

This just in: Google suddenly loses 90% of traffic; "We have no idea how this happened"

[@vetreas366]

This doesn't really track, though. If you're referring to Chrome downloads, maybe yeah but Google traffic has nothing to do with the browser you're using, you can still use Google from Firefox.

[@wich1]

Not gonna happen, 90% of the ignorant browsing public don’t give a flying toss about their security & privacy, which is how Google is going to get away with it

[@OneCSeven]

You are wildly overestimating the technical literacy of the majority of people

[@code9575]

If Firefox holds up it's bargain, and ensures a safe place, I'll go move over there.

[@jzrgrmm]

It's incredible how every big company today has become more and more aggressive with pushing ads. I assume they need to keep pumping up their profit numbers in order to keep attracting investor capital, but that approach is reaching a breaking point where people are genuinely outraged by the ad volume.

[@snipey14]

Case in point: KZbin's recent attempt to push playing up to 10 unskippable ads before a video to "improve user experience". I.e. "We know ads suck but we don't want to lose money so we'll play all the ads before your video so you can have an uninterrupted viewing experience!". I switched from Firefox to Chrome way back when Chrome was the better option, now I'll be switching back to FireFox.

[@SomeCowguy]

@@snipey14 first, ads before video. Then, 3 ads in the video. Disgusting.

[@yourmum69_420]

@@snipey14 so you don't use an adblocker? That sounds nuts about the 10 ads thing

[@snipey14]

@@yourmum69_420 I absolutely use an adblocker, I don't suffer from it. The 10 ads thing has been widely reported on.

[@mrkiky]

@@snipey14 Yea that's just crazy. The core problem is that companies need to make their product known, so the solution is ads. The problem that arises is that there's so many companies and so many products that we're fed ads everywhere we look. It just doesn't work in practice. Ad blocker or not, people won't be able to absorb so many ads and their revenue is gonna drop either way. The market will balance itself out either way. Either they show fewer ads, charge companies more for impressions and then if the company can't afford it, it goes under, or they bombard users with tons of ads, charge the company less for impressions and then the company doesn't get its money's worth because the users don't actually buy their product when they see an ad because their attention is saturated, and the company goes under.

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

I started using adblockers because ads became too intrusive. I would be fine with a banner breaking up the page, or on the side, but advertisers want to be as intrusive as possible, because they think that pissing off as many people as they can is good advertising. I remember years ago that some ads caused popups by accidentally hovering over them for more than a second. Don't know if those types of ads are still a thing or not, but they were sleazy as all hell and I'm not eager to encounter them again. Then there's how google don't want people to be able to skip ads on videos. It's almost like they know people hate them. The worst offender are those smug youtube premium ads. They know exactly what they're doing. I haven't used Chrome in years, but still, google can eat shit.

[@johnnymcgeez5647]

Oh boy, dont forget fake X button ads that take you to po*n sites...

[@Azurryu]

Google also thinks that when reporting an up for blocking the content I want a white banner blocking the content instead. And somehow, any ads blocking content coincidentally always are distributed by Google Ads...

[@zomgpirate]

Glad I went back to using Firefox a few years back, simply because of how much of a drain Chrome is on resources and also because it was breaking a website I needed to use for classes. Firefox was the first browser I installed when I became aware of other browsers than Internet explorer way back in the early 2000's, and now I'm back together with it. My good old friend who would never hurt me.

[@lunnardo]

@@user-sl4ul4nc3t I don’t know about you, but I like those empty wasted gaps because I don’t like how a UI should cramp everything in one place or making use of all the spaces they had.

[@lagboat]

@@user-sl4ul4nc3t Firefox isn't a memory hog but it's almost.

[@higherquality]

Let us all collectively facepalm for you 🤦‍♂️

[@JohnGardnerAlhadis]

@@user-sl4ul4nc3t If you dislike the default Firefox theme, simply install a different one. You know there're options for customisation, right?

[@5chneemensch138]

Firefox shilled out to china. Use Waterfox instead.

[@Albopepper]

Firefox is the predecessor to Chrome. Lots and lots of people used to know about it & used to use it. I was using it back in 2006 and have never switched. I love, love, love the browser and this new chrome BS just reaffirms my stance.

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

I haven't watched an ad on KZbin in over 5 years. I'm surprised that Google hasn't taken action on this sooner. It's especially surprising since A) This is how they make the vast majority of their money and B) There are other websites that immediately detect that you're using an ad-blocker and won't let you continue without disabling it.

[@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome]

Yep, same with Dailymotion up until recently. Now it's a fkn nightmare, and apparently no way to override it

[@Galorchs]

if a site asks you to disable ad block and you have multiple installed then just disabling one usually gets past that page

[@colorlessink]

If a site tells me that, i just close the site, unless it's absolutely necessary for me to view that site, which almost never is the case. Most sites that say that are news sites with clickbait titles so idrc.

[@LaCazaLP]

@@colorlessink thought i was the only one doing this. As soon as a page wants me to disable adblock for them i just leave the page lol

[@crusader8102]

@@Galorchs yeah it's very rare that a website detects my 4 adblockers

[@6Planet]

A tip to stick it to google even more: You can use Firefox on Android with desktop mode enabled on youtube and it will continue playing the audio with your phone screen turned off without youtube premium or whatever. (Ad free too if you use Ublock Origin for Firefox on Android.) The fact that they want people to pay a subscription to be able to turn their phone screen off and have a video keep playing is absurd to me.

[@BigLord]

Go to the next level and just get KZbin Vanced or NewPipe, to have full KZbin premium functionality. I basically use NewPipe as my main music player, at this point

[@VFChannelArchive]

@@BigLord isnt vanced dead tho after getting a C&D letter

[@Juicecfruit1864]

@@VFChannelArchive revanced is another one that is actively being updated and similar to vanced.

[@hartstukken]

I'm an Android but it's it available for iOs if not why?

[@Juicecfruit1864]

@@hartstukken it is not available for iOS and I'm not sure if it will ever be from what I've read. it's possible but would require a lot of work since the structure is different. The discord recommends Uyouplus for iOS devices as an alternative and doesn't require a jailbroken device apparently.

[@BrooksFoodLooks]

Safety, even taken at face value, is trying to dumb things down for the slowest end users who inevitably will always find a way to screw up even the most simple and menial tasks. Of course this is about cash and not safety though. Thanks for the ways shown around this, I am sure there will be ways around this and any **fix** updates to it in quick fashion as well, or at worst video downloaders that would only grab the video. I am way too old school to start putting up with ads now. Growing up, I learned that the rare ads that were around were to be avoided because you can click on the wrong one and wreck the computer. I see no reason to stop now.

[@zdarklurker2623]

Them removing manifest v2 for v3 and disabling adblocks and whatnot "for our safety" is the same as them removing down votes for "the mental health of our creators"

[@tlita93]

Happily using Firefox since Quantum update. It really is almost identical speed and stability as Chrome and I was using Chrome for a very long time. As you said, for development it's also the same, I never had any major issues, maybe some small differences on how 'inspecting' works, but it's all very minor. I was also using Firefox on Andorid, since it has Ublock there as well, which is a huge advantage to have on a smartphone IMO.. However, since I switched to an iPhone for the first time, I found out that there are no extensions on Firefox on iOS due to, of course, some Apple shenanigans. So I tried Safari with some, probably very popular, iOS app/adblocker and it actually works. I get that it's kinda annoying to switch to a different browser and it's ecosystem, but it's really not thaat big of a deal. A couple of days to a week tops and you'll get used to all the (small)differences if you even notice them hah.. Cheers mate 🙂

[@therwfer]

I always think that the ones most screwed over by anti ad-blocking measures are the legit companies paying for exposure. Google gets to say "Look, we got more people to see your ad, now give more money!", but the ones they got were folks actively trying to avoid ads. And if they're anything like me, those folks will make an effort to avoid companies that went out of their way to get into their faces.

[@Hortifox_the_gardener]

don't worry. The mere exposure effect still works. Even if you know what it is and even if you despise the agenda behind it. But it does. Unfortunately.

[@kestutisvaiciunas8663]

@@Hortifox_the_gardener Yep, this dude has no idea what he's talking about. The law of probability speaks here more loud than his theory. There's a bigger chance that 1 guy will see and like the product if 500,000 people see it than if 500, and that's all that matters.

[@jtc1947]

@ OK....99.9999> 23 decimal places of ADVERTISEMENTS are totally irrelevant to me personally! People PROBABLY wear out the MUTE button on their TV remote and consumers LOVE "smart sound" settings.

[@nvelsen1975]

I recently switched power companies because they sold my data and I started getting advertising for phones etc through them. Also withdrew € 10 from the last payment because I know that'll trigger their finance department to try and collect, but the sum is too small to go to court over, plus you're not getting costs assigned over a legit grievance like this. So they'll probably spend upwards of 1500 on collections agencies, which I'll engage with once in a legal letter and then ignore them. Looking at myself I don't think there's a limit to how counterproductive agressiver advertising gets.

[@mathze]

ads are one of the only things i am spiteful about. i will close my eyes and plug my ears when i cant skip an ad on youtube just so their money is wasted

[@zer0701]

I'm of the "has serious difficulties adapting" kind, but what that actually means is I've been using firefox since the days of Windows XP, always refusing to change to Chrome throughout the years. I remember when ff used to hog ALL the RAM and everybody told me to change to Chrome because it was so much faster. It's pretty damn crazy to think that Chrome is now somehow more RAM hungry than ff. Monopoly really leads to stagnation.

[@MegaPepsimax]

I remember switching to Chrome from FF. It was as you say so much faster, cleaner and has more features. Now I'm really unsure about going back to firefox, but might not have a choice

[@sayaks12]

@@MegaPepsimax mozilla has been focusing efforts on improving performance for firefox in the past years. it has really paid off too imo

[@noahdrucker3076]

@@MegaPepsimax I'm kind of in the same boat. I've been using Opera gx for over a year now, and I think it's great, but if my adblocker, tracker protection, and anti cookie stuff stops working Firefox looks like the only decent option.

[@c99kfm]

As a serial tab abuser, I used Opera until Tree Style Tabs for Firefox appeared on the scene. Since then, I've been a Firefox user, and I've never had any issues with RAM even comparable to those when I've been forced to use Chrome for work. I was running 1200+ tabs on a Core 2 Duo with 4 GB RAM with no issues, which shows how awesome Firefox is and how insane I am. Chrome has always been a memory and CPU hog. Always. It was faster in the case of a single window with a single tab opening one page. Once you hit 10+ tabs, Chrome's choice of a process per tab makes a mockery of my (admittedly bizarre) workflows. After Firefox 57, Chrome no longer has any significant single page advantage.

[@bigvidboi4909]

i like using opera GX, shit's rad

[@St0rmGuy]

Fun Fact: The guy Who created pop-up ads regrets creating them due to how it was used

[@Aria23331]

Source?

[@St0rmGuy]

Apparently he doesn't regret it but he is sorry! Also heres the source kzbin.info/www/bejne/babSfaNup9GJmdU

[@Aria23331]

@@St0rmGuy didn’t ethan zuckerman invented pop up ads?

[@pdbq7022]

This is a dumb "fact" for dumb people. Pop-ups are just an implementation of code. Anyone that wrote code could have made one. It's like saying the guy that invented the knife regrets making it. Thousands of other people would have made one anyway, so this "fact" has no value. Whatever guy is being referenced is just some guy that wrote code.

[@justmechanicthings]

same can be said about the internet in its entirety, it was intended to be a free hub of information accessible to everyone, now its a commercialized paywall

[@robbpeppertree]

Been a FireFox user all this time. This year I started donating to them as well, which I intend to continue on an annual basis. (Not sure if this is news for anyone, but FireFox is a non-profit organization!) Our privacy and freedom isn't free. But I don't mind paying a few bucks a year to a company who is obsessive over user privacy, and allows you to view the internet the way it was intended to be viewed: without ads! I see enough ads on the street. I don't need them when I just want to watch something on KZbin, or I'm already buying something else online. Marketing has a stranglehold on society and its nauseating. I like to avoid it where I can.

[@givenfool6169]

I switched to Firefox a while back, even though it's slightly more resource intensive, I figured it was good to support one of the few non chromium-based browsers to have that option in our software eco system. Guess it paid off. Advertisements are essentially malware iny opinion.

[@mrperfectcell1350]

I did the exact same thing.

[@heyjeySigma]

tsk... been using Firefox for like a DECADE now.. never used or cared about Chrome. better late than never for you tho

[@d.watkins2981]

@@heyjeySigma lol good for you bud?

[@TheCitizenship]

Ads are fine, but excessive amounts of ads are pure cancer (malware)

[@whitenoise1119]

Firefox hasn’t been more resource intensive than chrome for at least a year

[@ReVDeatH]

I was considering to fully switch to Firefox due to the functions of Chrome I was using daily. This solidified my plan, gonna create a Firefox account and switch to it completely once this new manifesto version drops. If a company doesn't want my internet experience to be ad-free meanwhile allowing every single adware site that redirects you million times around, then I am not going to use their product to surf the internet. Edit: Made the switch yesterday.

[@YoutubePizzer]

Keep us posted on how it goes

[@rednexie]

switch to brave or vivaldi?

[@mobiuscoreindustries]

Let's be honest here, I am entirely fine with ads if it was in any reasonable quantity. One add on the corner here, a 5/10 second ad on KZbin at the start of a video? Yeah sure why not. I understand that at the end of the day free services have to be paid somehow... But it's just excessive. Excessive AND a self harm to the sites. Not just because it drives users away, but because ad space is affected by supply and demand like absolutely fucking everything in life. Demand for ads on the user side is nonexistent, so you shove it in their face. However advertisers DO have a interest in having ads shown and so they pay you to do that. Now the problem comes because the MBA graduates that run these companies just care about quarterly growth numbers figure "hey they pay us by exposition, so if we expose the products more, they pay us more!" But what ends up happening is that you just increase the amount of views across the board, which means for the same amount of exposure, those companies won't have to buy as much and therefore the demand for your ad space falls. If demand falls and supply rises, then the price they are willing to place forward falls too. This then makes the MBA retards go "well fuck, we are not growing revenue. Well I know what is going to boost the numbers, shove in more ads!" And that's how we went form little skiable bars to skip able ads, to unskipable ads, to mid video ads... And if rumors are to be believed, them changing to add up to 10 potentially unskippable ads in a row.

[@alfamari7675]

@@rednexie I switched from chrome to brave to vivaldi and im loving vivaldi right now, the sheer power, customizability, and tab management has really increased my productivity and enjoyment of browsing, but now this talk of this new framework has me worried for vivaldi.

[@Bouitaz]

@@rednexie Brave, Opera, Vivaldi are all google chromium browsers...

[@Many_Mirrors]

Ad blockers wouldn't exist if websites didn't overdo ads. But there's way too many websites that are straight up unusable because of the amount of ads & popups they have. More ads than actual content. Flashing, moving and trying to grab your attention. Whenever I open a website without an adblocker I am absolutely shocked by how sluggish and distracting it is to use.

[@DanknDerpyGamer]

> *Ad blockers wouldn't exist if websites didn't overdo ads.* Indeed. There are people nowadays who are trying to spin the narrative to say it is the other way around... which is complete horseshit. I've been browsing the internet since the early 2000s, and before adblock gained popularity, it was a fucking CESSPOOL!

[@KameraShy]

AND they blare out their garbage through the pc's speakers.

[@Felix-Felix]

I had no idea this was coming up and this is the first video I've ever seen on your channel. Ironically, Google algorithm recommended me your channel. I'm currently using Brave for everyday usage and Waterfox for privacy usage but it seems It's time to replace Brave as well, that's fucking sad. I REALLY loved Brave.

[@linsqopiring6816]

what's wrong with brave ?

[@eliseosterbrink8000]

Thank you for always explaining stuff like this! It's very nice to understand why and how these things are happening so that we can better choose for ourselves how we want to respond to changes to the browsers and other things we use. You're much appreciated!

[@dmulligan]

I feel it needs to be pointed out that other browsers can continue to support Manifest v2-based extensions. Just because Google is removing it from Chrome doesn't mean that Chromium-based projects have to follow along with that decision. They can continue to support it in their own code bases. It will be more work to do so but the beauty of version control software is that Google can't just delete Manifest v2 support in such a way that developers can no longer go back to earlier versions to pull that code forward. If they did they'd be raising a lot of eyebrows and questions that they don't want to answer.

[@someguy4252]

sad part is they can indirectly force it a lot of browsers run on cromeium... and google adsense keeps the lights on at a lot of websites, couple that with googles webserch dominace they have a lot of tools at their disposal.

[@liamkearn]

With the way the browser scene works I wouldn’t be surprised if even Firefox eventually drops v2. This shit moves soo fast compared to your “normie dev” projects.

[@SchemingGoldberg]

It's a huge pain to maintain a fork, especially if the fork is significantly different from the original. And the longer that time goes on, the more work that it is to maintain the fork.

[@liamkearn]

@@SchemingGoldberg yeah especially when you fork and then mutate internal APIs instead of forking, fixing and using the public API from a lib

[@SchemingGoldberg]

@@liamkearn Basically, yeah, the extension API has a ton of internal code, which then uses other internal code. So whenever Google makes changes to the internal Chrome code, the fork has to fix the extension V2 code so that it works with Google's new code. It's a nightmare. It isn't as easy as just keeping around the old V2 code, because they have to keep updating the V2 code to work with the new Chrome code.

[@Misuune]

Reject Ungoogled Chromium, embrace LibreWolf.

[@sigmamale4147]

Librewolf is insanely based

[@Spartan322]

Librewolf Masterrace.

[@Finkelfunk]

LibreWolf is basically Brave without Google, ULTRA based.

[@TheSuperBoyProject]

@@Finkelfunk librewolf is like brave but good.

[@FHBStudio]

@@Finkelfunk As a curious brave user, in what way does brave use google, other than being based on chromium?

[@AverageTurrk]

End of an era for sure. It’s going to be sad to switch fully, but it has to be done. Always loved the ease of use and the UI of Chrome over browsers like Internet Explorer back in the days. RIP.

[@escapetherace1943]

lol what? you're on chrome in 2022? 😂

[@Normal_Boii]

Lmao imagine

[@ZuraJura]

Chrome in 2022. At least use the other chromium based browser

[@scoman91]

This is just the push I need to finally get off chrome for good. I've been procrastinating on it for the past few months because I didn't want to go through the steps of learning all the bells and whistles of firefox but now I have proper hard motivation.

[@aarcticc]

same here, i made the switch as i watched the video

[@dustyodyssey]

It's so easy. Firefox will automatically migrate your bookmarks and most of your passwords.

[@zackakai5173]

Ditto. I've had it installed for a while because Chrome has been shitting its pants with hardware acceleration lately. Was debating switching over in full, but I've been sleeping on it for the same reason. I know Google hasn't been the cool young tech startup for a looong time now, but it does still sting a bit to watch a company I once respected fall so far down into the cancer of soulless cashgrab corporate capitalism.

[@maccagrabme]

It will be a perfect excuse as those w0ke ads are unwatchable and highly disturbing for anyone straight, I cant watch any of that, call me old fashioned but its not something I can deal with.

[@princessjello]

Psst use it on mobile too, it has adblock ;)

[@Dyanosis]

I've said this before on other videos that talk about the need for adblockers - Running ads is an old and outdated model. It's stupid that we waste people's time and we make money from it (mainly because I pay, say Google, to run ads for my product... that's how the money is made). They need to find a new way to advertising things without making the web just an endless slew of unblockable, unskippable, forever in your face ads when all you wanted to know is "best build for Janna Support". It's made even more apparent how stupid ads are when you go to websites that tell you that you literally can't use their site because of your adblocker. Make an account, pay some subscription fee or other excuse for you to stop using your adblocker. We use them because we a) value our time more than whatever you want to show us that isn't relevant to the reason I'm using your service and b) want our sites to load as fast as possible for the data we care about instead of, for some reason, loading all the ads first and then it takes forever for the content itself to app. Note for Google and other companies out there who think what they're doing with ads is ok - We come to use that service to use that service. Not to be sold something that doesn't even relate to the reason we're using that service. Think of it this way - When you go to a mall, do you want to constantly be bombarded to visit different stores while you're in one store? Let's say you walk into Sephora and the whole time you're in there, there's a guy who is constantly asking you to visit GameStop and buy some new game that they just got in. Like who fucking cares? I'm in Sephora for a reason and that reason doesn't include having GameStop bullshit shoved down my throat. I get it's how people make money, but in a world where every service "wants as much as your time as they can get", using ads ain't it. If you use ads, you're actually getting less of our time, not more. Because we spend less time doing the thing we want to be doing and more time trying to navigate around the absurd amount of ads. This also goes for services like Amazon Prime and Netflix - we just want to watch a movie/tv show. Why the fuck you got to do us dirty by telling us "streaming won't be like the old days of watching commercials" when it totally is like the old days and we get just as many, if not more, than we used to? You think we don't notice, but we do. And even worse, you don't even make them skippable.

[@Larkian]

The original film streaming platforms literally did a 360º and is just a TV service in your PC or smart-tv. Like it was supposed to replace the use of buy/rent cassettes/dvd/blu-ray so you got it on demand when you wanted to see it and not even buy a TV service provider for the private channels (Stars, HBO, etc), buy specific channels for movies and other things and avoid literally the advertising space between tv shows. When netflix became popular companies copied their business and practices model and started to separate content with exclusivity per streaming platform instead of tv channels back then and at least it was ad-free. And at least for now only netflix wants to put a lower tier subscription to run ads between shows/flims? Like the whole purpose of streaming services was to have all films and shows you wanted to watch in one place. Now if you want that in the legal way you need to buy 3+ streaming services and is like literally having TV cable again but without ads (for now) and you select what you want to watch.

[@Bane_Amesta]

I literally close any page that tries to force me to disable my adblocker. If they really want those visits then I'd suggest looking for a new strategy, because this is just a natural repellent

[@ledark2512]

@@Bane_Amesta I'd rather try my best to bypass the anti-adblock

[@Bane_Amesta]

@@ledark2512 I tried that but it seems that never works, I don't know what to do anymore :(

[@pandora8835]

@@Bane_Amesta right click the pop up, inspect, and press delete bar until the pop up disappears, sometimes you’ll have to delete a few more cause there are additionnal html tags preventing you to scroll or click anything, but that generally works on most sites, until you reload the page that is

[@BradGryphonn]

Back in the day, I worked with a company that had a basic ad blocker. It involved editing the hosts file so that when the browser called an ad server, it would redirect to a folder on your computer with presized placeholder images that would load rather than remote ads. It was a community effort and worked well for a while.

[@OgdenM]

Hosts files don't work any more. At least not on Firefox. I doubt they do on Chrome or anything else also. Well, you CAN get Hosts files to work on Firefox. You just have to disable some MAJOR security features to get it working.

[@fnsmike]

@@OgdenM - hijacking your DNS resolution within the browser for "security reasons" seems to be a Firefox-only thing, fortunately. To Brad's point, you can do the same thing as the HOSTS file network-wide with a Pi-hole. If you do use Firefox you'll have to turn off DNS-over-HTTPS in the browser, but if you're really concerned about that you can do some small amount of extra work to enable it on the Pi-hole instead.

[@blueredingreen]

I recently started using redirection (via browser extension) as an ad blocking measure, because even with AdBlock, and even with trying to manually block most parts of the page, a simple fandom page still takes 217 years to load and makes my computer hang.

[@RetroGameSpacko]

@@OgdenM well, my Photoshop surely cant connect to adobe so.

[@teardowndan5364]

You didn't even have to host any files. All you need is to point the host file to a host that will decline all incoming connections so all of the ads requests get promptly denied so it doesn't stall page load. At least it used to work great back when I did it. I haven't bothered since discovering ad-blockers though.

[@vulgivagu]

I have used AdBlock on KZbin for some time, and it is brilliant. One of the mysteries is that I installed it after seeing an ad for it on KZbin which is kind of weird. There seems to be a consensus of option out there that Google tolerate it because it keeps you using their product whilst they still collect your browsing data. Data equals money apparently.

[@Bluecrimson217]

They can still sell that data to other companies.

[@benjaminlynch9958]

Can’t believe this video didn’t steer in the direction of pi-hole. DNS based ad blocking that is not just browser agnostic, but OS and device agnostic. It’ll block on mobile phones, tablets, and smart devices with zero overhead on the client device.

[@chevy1810]

Exactly

[@diwajerebation4077]

@@opros7 this

[@marcogenovesi8570]

pihole is cool and all but most people can't understand anything harder than "install and use this app"

[@Walhor]

@@marcogenovesi8570 that's me, I am a lost hope doing any simple programming. I had a friend who set up pihole for me but eventually it didn't work. Probably due to dynamic IPs. Now I've setup adguard directly to the router which hopefully should be stable 😅

[@fermmm]

I've tried DNS level ad blocking and it's full of problems, for example spotify ads are stored in the same host than the music, you block the ads address of spotify and then some songs don't play

[@afunstranger6390]

We don't have to worry much about ad blocking, people will always find a way around it.

[@UmVtCg]

Around what, the blocking or the ads?

[@ImperiumLibertas]

@@UmVtCg both. It's always a cat and mouse game. People really hate ads and will go great lengths to not see them.

[@chauvetwoods95]

I believe soon enough someone would've made something to go all around this

[@fss1704]

Brave:exists

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@UmVtCg both

[@willsterjohnson]

My perspective on the comment around 3:45 in the video; Firefox adheres more closely to the official specification for website functionality and capability, that has always been Firefox's goal and it succeeds very well. As web developers, we ideally would like all browsers to do this, and it's really not a big ask; "Hey, you make X machine. You're also a member and subscriber to Y non-profit who set the standards and rules for X machines. Can you make your X machine follow the standards and rules set out by Y non-profit?" Apparently this request is unreasonable when you're asking Google or Apple to make a browser which meets the World Wide Web Consortium's and ECMA TC39's official web technology standards. But Mozilla, ever vigilant, have made a browser which consistently conforms to the official specification. The reason that some websites don't work on Firefox is because the developers have built it while using Chrome/Safari and have only used the non-standard properties added by those browsers, not using the actual properties. Imagine you make a tape measure that's intended for measuring in metric. But you only label feet and inches. This is exactly what many developers do, they build websites with technology not officially recognised as technology for building websites.

[@nopenever9829]

I Agree ... nothing more to say about this

[@Tantraloverful]

Having a severe intolerance to commercials and advertisement, going to switch to firefox right away :)

[@reiuji_utsuho]

A tiny percentage of sites being broken would be fixed pretty quick if Firefox regained some of its former massive marketshare anyway because web devs would have to stop being lazy and test their sites with it as well.

[@avi12]

As a web dev, if you want to do a _proper_ job you need to test not only in desktop Chrome, but also desktop Edge, desktop Firefox, desktop Opera, they're mobile counterparts, and good luck testing in the macOS-exclusive Safari if you don't own a MacBook And since not all browsers support the same features in terms of their JS/CSS engines, get ready for mind-bending browser inconsistencies and having spaghetti code all over just to support edge-cases Oh and if you want higher rankings on Google and maybe Bing if you consider it important, you better off investing time and effort in reducing the initial load time Oh, and you should also keep in mind that approximately 15% of your users cannot see your website, so you should have a proper accessibility support Being a web dev isn't easy if you want to do it right

[@SensSword]

I don't remember any issues with FF or Chrome during my development for over a decade past a few gotchas. Only thing that comes to find is date/time inputs were flaky and annoying for a bit.

[@shanematthews1985]

@@SensSword there are sometimes very minor rendering differences, nothing that really breaks anything but sometimes it will just look wonky

[@EvenTheDogAgrees]

In an ideal world, web devs wouldn't have to test on multiple browsers. In an ideal world, all browsers would implement the HTML standard completely and on-spec, so that if your site renders correctly on one browser, it renders correctly on all of them. You know? The whole point we even have the W3C HTML standard in the first place?

[@AleksandarIvanov69]

"devs would have to stop being lazy", so not spending huge amounts of time and resources for a few people out of a billion is lazy ? are you perhaps a Linux user ?

[@ThinBear4]

I swear, "security and privacy" is Google's favorite excuse for every single one of their controversial and/or questionable decisions. Just to remind - they blocked call recording on one of the recent Android versions "becuz secuhrityandprivacy!!!". I repeat - in order to increase security, they made a change which severely reduces security. Logic. Thank you very much, you've convinced me to switch to Firefox - downloading as of writing this. I've been considering to ditch Brave after a pile of annoyances it bothered me with, but this is a straw that broke the camel's back. I've actually used Firefox ages ago, but I've switched to Chrome, thinking it was superior and more "modern". I'm happy to have a reason to go back to the ol buddy fox.

[@arichiquabtd8092]

Ive always used Firefox ever since I was a kid and got my first laptop and I've always been so surprised it's such an unpopular browser. So many of my friends use Chrome, this will probably get them to switch. But in general I never really understood in life why everyone used Chrome since I always felt like the layout was less comfortable and intuitive, whereas Firefox always gave me all the tools I needed at the time easily.

[@gutoguto0873]

It’s because you’re used to it. Your friends would think that chrome is more intuitive.

[@sb0]

For me chrome is faster than firefox

[@brosephjames]

Chrome was faster and more responsive than firefox for a number of years. this hasn't been the case for a while but inertia is strong.

[@mysteriousstranger5100]

back then the UI was my main issue, looks like they improved on that since. no reason to skip on Firefox anymore though.

[@anon_y_mousse]

I always felt like Chromium based browsers were childish with an oversimplified UI. Still haven't seen one that dissuades me of that belief. There simply aren't enough configurability options with it.

[@MrFalcon58199]

I've been using Brave for some years now and I'm very pleased.

[@Silentguy_]

Google can try and circumvent ad blocker in any way it wants but it isn’t getting around the network-level blocks that you can have with dedicated firewalls or something as simple as a Pi-Hole. Besides Google can only get away with so much of this Ad-Block subversion before they potentially violate CIPA Laws due to how prevalent they are in school districts and because of just how awful some of the content for ads can get

[@svenhoff2653]

I wanted to set up Pi-Hole for years. Had already my shopping cart completed, when i read that the blocking lists are no longer updated as often as in the beginning of the project. But i think i really have to have a look at it again. I use chrome and Firefox side by side for years. Some things (specific apps) work better on chrome other better on firefox). But without any kind of addblocking browsing is not possible today. You will have a seizure after a short amount of time.

[@Silentguy_]

@@svenhoff2653 it still works pretty well tbh. If you’re technical enough you can always setup a home brew DNS server that also pulls some forwarders from big anti-ad public DNS servers

[@escapetherace1943]

@@Silentguy_ even if they get past everything in the future, we'll just watch videos with a delay where AI cuts out all the ad-content and buffers you the cleaned content. I'm not worried at all, people already know how and will release this level of workaround if they need to theoretically if they could force you to watch ads, I simply wouldn't use the internet. lmao.

[@Slide100]

Came to say this. Best thing I ever did was install a Pi-Hole. And the lists are well updated. There's a word game I play in the evening, and I tried it once away from home. Without the Pi-Hole the game was *unplayable*.

[@SethiozProject]

I use TorGuard and they provide adblocking DNS, I think you don't even need VPN for that, anyone can use those adblocking DNS servers. I used to use openDNS, which I still have it set in my router, but I think I need to start using adblocking DNS globally (set it in my router). Reason why VPN is better, is because you can have browser add-on for it, so only your browser goes thru the VPN and therefore has built-in adblock.

[@Katie-hb8iq]

To be fair, it wouldn't surprise me at all that the most popular adblockers aren't already working on v3 implementations for their extensions as we speak. I don't think we're going to be in a situation without adblockers for a year or something. Because this is such a disaster, people are working on it out of rational self-interest.

[@Amygondor]

If I see one ad in chrome due to my adblocker not working, and I discover it's chrome's fault, I'm changing browser to one that treats me like a human being.

[@fkujakedmyname]

ironically it might make them easier to block if they are all from one address at least for things like youtube

[@JT.00000]

@@Amygondor lmao

[@riven4121]

They are. Ublock has one and so does ABP. But they say it won't be as powerful as the existing versions.

[@pbs1982]

So I drank like 6 coffees this morning and this video had me all anxious until I read your comment and I was like "yea someone is on this because they can make money"

[@ColetteHart]

I've been using Firefox since 2005 and the number of websites that don't work well on it is pretty small. Nearly every time they've done something I dislike (like changing the interface) I've found ways of reverting it back to how it was before. More market share for Firefox could be a great thing for its users. The bigger problem is that Google knows it can get away with it since, at the end of the day, most people don't use ad blockers to begin with. We all know people like that, maybe an older relative or a coworker who always use the default settings for everything, including browsers. They won't notice a difference and will continue to use Chrome regardless.

[@EduardoIsSmiling]

Don't even need to be old clueless people. I have a young zoomer cousin(14 years old) who really doesn't understand how adblocks work, and just have everything in default in his browser. He was so used to just being handled a computer or tablet to him by his parents and everything being automatic that he doesn't even know you can modify browsers and use add-ons, he basically thinks internet and technology is literal magic. mf doesn't even know how to use privacy mode and deletes his history one by one when he watch porn lol

[@charbway]

I swapped from Chrome to Firefox about a year or so ago and haven't looked back since lol

[@YujiUedaFan]

Chrome is my backup browser, though I may switch to Brave.

[@scrunt62]

I've used Firefox since I was a kid, with intermittent swaps to Chrome in my teens. I recently tried out Opera GX for a few months since it looked interesting but they force their own ads regularly, and they're Chromium based. The only times I ever have issues with Firefox "not working" is rarely when there's an interactable program or form in a website. It's never been a big deal to save and quit/log out, open it back up in Microsoft's browser and finish the thing I was doing. The same thing has happened when using Safari, Chrome and Explorer/Edge, and I've also had times where Firefox worked in place of other options. I've never found it to be a big deal, to the extent where, when I first started writing a reply, I was going to say that I've never had issues with Firefox working. So technically I guess that's not quite true, but for me, it doesn't come up any more or less than other browsers.

[@TriforceOfCourage97]

i had to stop when my banks website didnt work.

[@leokimvideo]

Oh the absolute irony, this video is running ad's 😂 Love it

[@tedcity5861]

@Real Aiglon you must be fun at parties.

[@thelazy0ne]

For you maybe.

[@argonauts56au1kera6]

Its to punish those who don’t have an adblocker.

[@Zippyheru]

I will find a way one way or another, it's extremely dehumanising having to watch ads like YT does, from specific sites I want to support it, but its the aggressive ones that are truly awful. I can't even scroll through an article on my phone without having it be broken into 5 pieces because of ads like wtf...

[@thelazy0ne]

Punish the site by not visiting it. Works wonders!

[@ravenlorans]

There are Adblockers for KZbin but at the same time, the ones that are put into videos ( yellow dot indicators ) can be Skipped by playing the last Five seconds or so of the video and then going back to the beginning... Or Go to "Tools" and then "Add-ons" to find AdBlockers for the ones in Videos.... Can't help with the Fucks who actually put and do the Ads themselves and change them depending on who pays them the most.. which is becoming more and more popular for those Assholes to do...

[@JacobMoen]

I have been running Firefox for years now, and I love it 😊 Especially watching add free KZbin videos. It works great. I am a 200+ tabs person. No issues. I am puzzled by the amount of people putting their trust in a company that makes money from their data. I sincerely hope that more people will make the switch to Firefox. The world will be a worse place without it.

[@hullmees666]

i have been using ff for over a decade, sadly have to use chrome for work as some of our tools act weird with other browsers.

[@timl.b.2095]

I hear ya! I absolutely can't deal with ads. And I'm a multi-tab person myself. I usually use FoxyTab when I get to about 100 to copy and paste the url's. Which I paste into a file and put in a folder where I never, ever look at it again. Kinda like hoarding, I guess, but much less harmful. I had a cousin who, when he died, was found to have been saving newspapers for untold years. Hip-deep piles. You can't get hip-deep in pixels. And even though I know I'll never look at those files again, I just can't help myself.

[@bigglyguy8429]

Let me rephrase that for you - you've been running one of the thousands of variations of Firefox, even after you close that forever-updating trash.

[@CJ-wh7ik]

Stop shilling Firefox. It sucks. All my homies use brave

[@JB-Voices]

@@CJ-wh7ik finally someone here who knows what a real good browser is ;) brave ftw

[@Ness_and_Sonic]

I wonder if this could partially be done because they don't want a certain extension that brings the dislike counter back to work any more.

[@shaunpatrick8345]

They can fix that with the KZbin API. Even better, they could adjust the reported figure to understate the number of downvotes to protect the reputations of their allies, which some say they already are doing!

[@cacomelon4768]

I can't see any reason to do so. Google isn't going to go through all this trouble and make changes this drastic just because they're butthurt. It's probably more about adblock.

[@Ness_and_Sonic]

@@cacomelon4768 If they're getting paid by someone like Disney, Amazon, or the Whitehouse to hide dislikes and getting complaints about it still of the extension, I imagine it would be part of it. Ad and tracker blocking would be another reason.

[@cacomelon4768]

@@Ness_and_Sonic that's true.

[@malicious1968]

"Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither. "- Ben Franklin