Why is the Reclaimer 18 SO Good AND Bad?! - 3 Reasons the Reclaimer 18 is So Inconsistent (MWIII MP)

[@27RCA]

I really dislike increased damage while ADS, I use a shotgun specifically to hipfire

[@MumboJumboZXC]

Doesn’t need to be fully ADS.

[@NeightrixPrime]

The fact that they even have code for that is ridiculous.

[@TheGreatJon]

Exactly! Why, do I have to use my shotguns MORE like a precision sniper rifle more so than I dowith ACTUAL sniper rifles in this game. I've one shot killed people with sloppy sniper shots to the toes SO many times. However if I don't get a headshot with my shotgun, I may as well turn the gun on myself, as 80% of the smgs in the game will eliminate me within the time it takes to get a 2nd shot off. I really loathe what they have done to shotguns in this game.

[@GreggsEmo]

The damage range bug makes so much more sense now wow LMAOO

[@hispaniccoyote]

Did anyone mention that the Crown Breaker choke changed during the Reloaded update? The Crown Breaker choke now is modeled after the Riveter's muzzle ,and the overall stats have been changed.

[@Goomie]

@hispaniccoyote seems weaker than before sadly. :(

[@steppenhenge]

@@Goomie yeah i could get ball riveter min to 0 before, now 0.5 at best

[@angleegoosoo9980]

I noticed this, was it even in the patch notes I didn’t see it 😢 huge difference unfortunately

[@bobthebuilder9509]

Fun fact about that hipfire damage profile: in MWZ, it changes to *buff* your damage instead of reducing it. So while you want an ADS build in MP and Warzone, it’s far more beneficial to run a hipfire build in Zombies- at least for buckshot (since slugs are objectively superior and IIRC do not have the same variable damage mechanic, instead hitting like 10 slug trucks per shot when PaPed)!

[@NeightrixPrime]

I could be wrong, but I think it also counts all of your pellets too? In other words the barrels are objectively a damage increase.

[@Olinke]

This sucks, there’s no point of a shotgun if you have to ads like a sniper. I wish this was the OG MW2 Spas where you could hipfire people from 10+ metres away

[@Texarmageddon]

Especially when the ADS is god awful slow.. I’d be fine if I could one shot people with slug rounds with a shotty from 20-30 meters, but I can’t even do that.

[@marschalljakob]

You just need to have pressed ads but don’t need to fully ads to get better damage. Either just tacstance or "quickscope" every shot. on controller just make a l2/R2 combination

[@second_sonu]

Yeah it definitely slaps in warzone and mp with a tac stance speed build.

[@Olinke]

@@marschalljakobAgain, if I wanted to use a sniper then I’d use a sniper

[@marschalljakob]

@@Olinke such a bad comparison, you just have to press ads for a millisecond before you shoot to get better damage, not comparable to sniping.

[@gel87Kjetil]

Sound like the perfect shotgun for me. I like 3 things in cod: 1 tap potential Accuracity Speed

[@dirty__d8913]

I’ve been waiting for your breakdown of the new shotgun. Any chance we could see an updated best class build for the top 5 multi like you did with WZ a week ago. I think it would help some of those camo/mastery challenge grinders after various weapon and attachments nerfs/buffs

[@LordAngelus]

Unexpected MP video (but a very welcome one!)

[@VVaypoint]

I feel the power of the gun comes from the select fire functionality. Being able to swap to semi for corners feels really good to me.

[@holycowza]

No wonder that hipfire challenge was driving me nuts

[@EXTIINCT_]

Hell yeah, an MP vid! Would love to see some more MP vids

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

i really wish they buff the semi auto mode 😢especially in mp there is 0 reason to use it over pump or any of the other semi auto shotties. I just want my bo1 spas back sh please

[@P0W3RH0U53]

Real quick, a bug came up and now the hammer barrel for lockwood 680 has 10 rounds, thought you might enjoy!

[@Tiduspeco]

I'm glad someone else finally acknowledged the damage difference hip fire vs ADS. Absolutely hate that it's doing that and have not been using it because of that.

[@The1000YearWhore]

This is the level of actual in depth review I come to expect when it comes to shotties, so Goomie, you never disappoint. Definitely gonna change how I use this moving forward.

[@The4thshodow]

That's literally crazy. I was wondering why it was so hard to use in multi. I made a fast slugs class just so i can get the drop

[@inconspicuous7464]

I knew something was up with it! I hope it gets fixed. Im thinking the Bryson 800/890 could use the same ADS damage multipliers but include the stomach too as conpensation for being the slowest shooting pump actions

[@MrKing-he3eo]

Yeah the brysons aren't very good unfortunately. However the broadside and semi auto mx guardian are pretty good. I still think all of the mwll shotguns need buffs in a few areas though.

[@ohnobro3770]

@@MrKing-he3eoI miss the Bryson’s so much lol

[@MrKing-he3eo]

@@ohnobro3770 Tbh I'd rather them be meh than op lol

[@danmartinez6308]

Does dragon breath work the same as the lockwood. DB makes the hipfire the same as aim down site

[@Lex_8444]

Does the damage range bug also exist in warzone?

[@Goomie]

@@Lex_8444 doesnt seem like it!

[@13WARMACHINE]

It's strangely way better in warzone over multiplayer. It's because warzone is more forgiving when it comes to handling

[@LockyDragon]

If I'm not literally frotting with my opponent it's 4 hit markers and then death

[@ExplosiveFetus]

So does tac stance still count as hipfire and give you a damage penalty? How about covering the semi auto fire mode?

[@Goomie]

@@ExplosiveFetus counts as ads! Semi auto is meh and has no difference ads vs hipfire!

[@NeightrixPrime]

Looks like the range values were changed but they forgot to delete an old value.

[@takeontaurus098]

I tried using it with several builds and it just doesn't feel like a true shot gun. After a while, I just gave up and switched to using the Bryson 890. The difference with the two shotguns specifally is insane and undoubtly disappointing for the spaz.

[@Cured91]

I’ve gone back to the 890 for Warzone. The hip fire mechanic breaks the gun and defeats the purpose of using a shotgun. It’s absolutely infuriating to lose fights within very close range where I’d start with ADS and switch to hip fire for the finish.

[@simonkammeyer4334]

I was so hyped for this gun. I expected it to feel like the 680 b4 they nerfed it. Or the 600 from mw2. But it feels so ass. I want to use it. But every time I equip it. I end up switching back to the 680. Which feels infinitely better.

[@Mr_N0_0ne]

Has the riveter been nerfed with incendiary rounds the last couple days I have played and even in the firing range it is taking almost 20 shots to kill the first dummy with 3 plates. And in games in feels weaker than before? (In warzone)

[@Goomie]

@Mr_N0_0ne dummies are notoriously inaccurate, so I wouldnt judge damages based on them. I'll have to check if it has been, but as far as I know it should be the same as before!

[@Mike-c9j]

Disappointing that the MK2 dual shotties still haven’t been balanced properly. With practically no sprint out time, decent range and fast fire rate. It makes all other shotguns d-tier in comparison.

[@Axelladel]

What a shame, had my hopes up for the SPAS only for it to get trashes by the ADS gimmick.

[@tvrift]

I must end up in the "bad range" a LOT. Getting a 15m 1hk then proceeding to ADS a guy WHO IS MUCH CLOSER and get a HM is infuriating.

[@noobnoob8806]

Does Dragon's breath eliminate the ADS gimmick and equate the hipshot dmg with ads dmg? If so, DB might be a good option for this shotgun(even tho that would reduce 'out of optimal range' dmg worse)

[@noobnoob8806]

Tested myself and felt like it really did so Not 100% sure but the hip fire cracked full plates often

[@ohnobro3770]

Basically just a weird marksman rifle in multiplayer and it’s really fun when you use it like that but horrible as a real shotty

[@fadams32]

that bug makes a lot of sense and makes me feel better

[@MyGoodSamaritan]

imo this is a good thing, id rather it work this way than be just another clone pump action shotgun that functions the exact same way as its counterparts

[@tvrift]

You actually like that it does less damage at mid range vs long range? Wow....just......wow....

[@leahcimzruc]

It’s kinda of a skill cannon

[@HOWAARD]

So weird the SPAS on warzone, doesn't care how near you're from the enemy, it doesn't one shot when they're down

[@TheGreatJon]

Goomie - you ever done a "my settings vid" for controller setup and all that for MW3? I'd be interested to see it. As for classes in MP... I really dig shotguns, but so often I just get frustrated with losing to CQC quickscopers and SMGs that liquify me in .02 seconds, after I've already shot them in the face/chest/guts. My two main weapons are LMGs and Shotguns, both are the worst gun classes in the games. Anything an LMG would be useful for, an AR (and many SMGs) can do better, faster, and with less recoil. Any range that an LMG outplays an AR or SMG, you're just sniper fodder. Meanwhile anything you would WANT to do with a Shotgun, you may as well just use a KAR98 or whatever SMG you like the look of, they all outperform shotguns in every possible scenario. So diappointing.

[@Goomie]

@@TheGreatJon ive considered it, but just not sure if anyone would really care to watch tbh

[@TheGreatJon]

@@Goomie Fair enough man I imagine it's a lotta work. I'd be interested, you're such a beast with your movement and shottie aim, you use auto tac sprint, right? Dunno how you do it with shotguns, feels so broken when I try it.

[@vtricko2391]

Switching it to semi auto helps a lot

[@Azherus]

We need a slug only shotgun like the KSG or just buff slugs… PLEASE SHG/Raven

[@xindigochildx3417]

How, if at all, does using tac stance impact the topics discussed in this video? Does tac stance (without ADS) count as hip fire?

[@Goomie]

@xindigochildx3417 tac stance counts as ADS! It's useful for sure, but I prefer full ADS to reaaallly take advantage of the OSK range. If you want to tac stance, just commit to being at closer ranges and it'll still be a monster, just dont expect super long one shot kills as consistently.

[@xindigochildx3417]

@@Goomie Thank you so much for responding! ^_^

[@bobajeens6029]

Hardcore: Everything is a one-shot if you aim enough

[@DJCinthaBoy]

I kinda love the fact that there is a gun that’s kinda bad and good

[@joel_okdasnsbbeb]

Bro no wonder that shit sucks I thought I was either lagging or that gun just sucks

[@leahcimzruc]

So you gotta treat it like you using slugs

[@S3BAST1AN696]

For s gun with such tight hipfire in semi damn does it feel unoredictable in warzone, im MP its more forgiving and pump is def the best and does make it feel a more like the MW2 spas

[@Calma123_]

can you make a video about mw2 shotguns and how terrible they been.. Its a disgrace how they handled the lockwood 300, Bryson 800/890, Expedite etc. and nerfed them to the point they are almost useless..

[@idontknowwhattoputhere.]

i wish they fixed this an d it would be like the 680

[@Calma123_]

yh pre nerf 680 you mean not this garbo 680 we got now... they unnecessary nerfed the poor thing while it was perfectly balanced

[@Gobul]

Still waiting on the slugs buff which is never gonna come cause sledge hammer are trash

[@HEELEO]

I mean, you shouldn't be hipfiring a shotgun beyond 3 meters anyway

[@jamestee8852]

Shotguns suck in mw3 warzone. Use to love the Jak12 was viable

[@Ryy_Ryy]

great info, sadly wont be using it still. The gun is shitty lol and shotguns arent meant to be ADS weapons IMO.

[@sabresandiego]

This gun is trash on mouse due to inconsistency. You need to use pump and have controller aim assist to have any level of consistency with this weapon

[@UzzielPalafox]

I FUCKING hate that they make shotguns only usable when ADS like, what is the point of a FUCKING shotgun.

[@MumboJumboZXC]

You just have to tap the button and fire. It doesn’t need to be full ADS.

[@UzzielPalafox]

@@MumboJumboZXC the problem is that if you hipfire shotguns lost around 80% of efectiveness, its too much for shotguns and all of them are "balanced" like that.

[@dianeo4092]

buff pls

[@madanimohamed1921]

GUYS USE TAC STANCE!!!!!!!!

[@Cured91]

I think everyone does.. it’s borderline impossible to use with no-stock otherwise.

[@Calma123_]

Tac stance is still ads

[@PickNNNPop]

MP is gay. I feel bad for ppl who paid real money for this game

[@amazng_]

Hum. So why are you here GO TO xdefiant then

[@PickNNNPop]

@@amazng_ to support my vaquero