STARFIELD 'Creation' : Trackers Alliance - The Vulture (REVIEW)

[@Darumaster]

Don't worry. We won't lmao

[@crescent5311]

I will. I'm my own man.

[@Darumaster]

He's gone rogue

[@bjarnis]

They couldn't pay me enough to install and play this game again.

[@PharCry]

@@crescent5311 That kind of attitude is part of the problem, whether you're joking or not. Give them an inch, they'll take the whole damn highway

[@crescent5311]

@@PharCry It 'aint a joke. Stop being a follower and make your own decisions. Having said that, I don't like how they implemented this. I just don't need Gopher telling me what to do.

[@aderek79]

"Nickeled and dimed" went away a long, long time ago. Hell it would be the preferred system. Today it is more like "fiver and tenner".

[@enescustovic1883]

2018 I bought 60 US Dollars worth of Madden coins. I didnt know what microtransactions were at the time. Im quite proud its the only such purchase Ive ever made in my life , but if I was so easily duped, Im scared of how much money the average moron has spent on these things..

[@robertjensen1438]

Why did the vulture check his baggage at the airport? He wasn't allowed any carrion.

[@1WolfFan]

Glad to see you, even here. Adds that little extra cheer to an otherwise low-down situation. :)

[@Subject_Keter]

That joke has more work put into it then the Quest.

[@Pawel274]

witcher 3 hearts of stone release price was 9.99 XD

[@Niyucuatro]

i paid that (during a sale) for dragonborn.

[@marcelkowalski501]

Even cheaper, I believe if you pre-purchased the DLC.

[@RobbieB2606]

Witcher 3 DLC was absolutely legendary. Blood & Wine was £19.99 and literally a whole game of content, arguably more enjoyable than the base game

[@TybrosionMojito]

lmao more work went into the Gaunter O'dimm theme than the entire Trackers Alliance DLC

[@CrniWuk]

No shit right? I mean I really criticised them for Cyberpunk2077 but it's a pretty decent game now with all the upgrades. But when you look at witcher 3? Their biggest release was Blood and Wine. Like fuck. It's bigger than some ACTUAL Rpgs out there ... and it's an expansion for W3.

[@nickzukowski4106]

Maybe I'm paranoid but having the free quest ending with (spoiler) the target getting away and then selling a quest where we're actually are allowed to take down the target felt intentionally manipulative. Kind of giving a quest/story with a less than satisfying resolution and then dangling a more satisfying one in front of you.

[@CharlesSmith-io9fp]

I played the free one and he did get away. I had to go replay a few hours because Sarah got killed and I wanted to dump another player instead. This time I'll do a hard save, then see if I can just kill him before going into the Chop Shop. Be fun to see how that works out. This time I want to search it completely since it won't let me dock a second time after I leave.

[@GophersVids]

It gets worse when you realise that this paid quest does not even touch on the first mission in the slightest. Or at least not that I could see. So you've got to buy the next one ... or maybe the one after that ....

[@Prophes0r]

Welcome to post-2014, where all content is just the hook to get you to take out your wallet.

[@gkw9882]

@@CharlesSmith-io9fp I hope you'll post what happens, my bet is that he's essential.

[@Legacyartist]

Was afraid that's where things were going with Bethesda made creations.

[@Kaijudomage]

We need to stop saying it's $7, it's $10, you can't buy it directly from steam etc and you can't buy 700 credits of funny money. But yeah, they really stepped in it with this, Todd already acknowledged it as well, just have to see what happens now. oh boy

[@RobbieB2606]

The mismatched currency vs what you can purchase is a total red flag for me. If I notice it, I'm not buying anything

[@piotrek593]

Nothing will change, it is that way for a reason.

[@PharCry]

Stick to the usual modding communities, give BGS' paid mods the middle finger and move on. That's it.

[@TristenSarelvun]

@@piotrek593 It would change if people would stop buying it....

[@mastermiller4862]

Todd has a history of making shit decisions now and then acting like it's not a problem down the line.

[@Justanobody8472]

Honey! wake up! Gopher is angry about something!

[@brianbunton]

Micro- is one-millionth, ten to the minus six.

[@thetwo-armedman]

I think he was comparing relative to the most commonly used unit of length, which is a centimeter, 10^-2m. A micrometer (10^-6m) is 10^-4cm.

[@GophersVids]

I think I was more just rage spouting numbers and not really thinking :)

[@PharCry]

Which is the amount of respect I have for any given "mod" in Bethesda's Creatin Club shit :)

[@Prophes0r]

Which is what using the fake currency is SUPPOSED to feel like you are spending. These StarBacks aren't "real" money. What's the harm in spending it? It is literally more work to design a system that sells, keeps track of, and uses fake money than to just use real money. The ONLY reason it's done is to manipulate you, because they make far more money that way.

[@sonicray100]

Lol was like "isn't it -6", then went to comment and immediately saw this :).

[@SabiJD]

I almost find the 'mod/micros' menu on SF stressful to even look at. They've essentially smashed together mods, micros, *and* paid mods, with no way of shunning the content with a price tag. On F4, mods are still mods, and the micros are quarantined elsewhere... Never the twain shall meet. I hate that they've intentionally muddied the waters. They've forced us to put up with *grifters* as well as modders *and* a Ubisoft style storefront. I'm still seeing a weapon edit that just buffs health. And this chancer wants real money for that? Fuck right off. I was waiting for mods to essentially save/fix/improve SF before restarting a character to actually finish the story. But this is immensely frustrating and off-putting.

[@GophersVids]

Pretty much how I feel. Not liking the mix of mods AND mtx.

[@ThatGrumpyOldBastard]

Dubbing them all Creations and muddying the waters is a convenient 'Ackhually' for when people call them out on their once statements they'd never do paid mods. A pathetic bit of wordplay to obfuscate a VERY intentional decision.

[@GophersVids]

They said they'd never do paid mods? I was always under the impression they wanted to, but couldn't iron out the details of how to do so. I don't remember seeing a statement that they would never do it though. I may have missed it.

[@ThatGrumpyOldBastard]

@@GophersVids unless I'm very much misremembering, back when they started rolling out console mods for Skyrim there was a lot of concern regarding the topic, especially within the modding community, for the fear that it would cause a divide, concerns regarding using others work, the legal complications etc. I remember Beth being very insistent in articles and interviews whenever the subject came up, in assuring people this would never happen. Maybe technicalities were always the real reason but back it did sound like it was a matter of ethics. Fast forward a few years and well...I guess not? And lo and behold, I've watched talented and passionate modders leave and take their work with them over this.

[@GophersVids]

I can say with a fair degree of certainty that it was never about ethics. They've been openly and consistently trying to find ways to monetize the modding community since 2015. The only things that were stopping them were logistical issues as far as I can see.

[@monsterurby]

What blows my mind is that Bethesda Game Studios will release a single quest and a weapon that does not work correctly for $7.00, or even just a single armour set for $3.00. Meanwhile, the Fallout: London team have been working on a GAME SIZED MOD and yet they're getting abuse from the community for delaying for QA and bug fixing... FOR FREE!!

[@lrinfi]

The gaming community is in denial of the fact that their favorite studios aren't artistic studios anymore, but corporate subsidiaries getting their marchings orders from "the higher ups" in the pyramid scheme of things.

[@Sally4th_]

A timely intervention, I was just looking at this and wondering if it was worth it. Answer: no. Hell no.

[@thomasforthe9274]

The other problem is every time they update the creation club all the paid mods will break. If the creators don't update the paid mods you just flushed some cash....

[@human3504]

I am sure the paid ones have to be updated if possible. Seeing as only verified creators can make paid mods and so direct commutation.

[@thomasforthe9274]

@@human3504 Skyrim has this exact problem. Creators giving up because Bethesda kept breaking their mods with updates. I can no longer use several mods that I used because of this.

[@human3504]

@@thomasforthe9274 Were they free or paid? If a modder stops fully updating their paid work then that is a scam because you paid for it. UC Flygirl companion as far as I know has issues but that modder is waiting for Bethesda to fix lip sync. Also, sometimes modders move on if their passion is no longer there

[@piotrek593]

@@human3504 "Noire Penthouse" cc is broken in F4 "nex gen" so updates for payed mods are not certain thing.

[@Subject_Keter]

​@@thomasforthe9274 I could of sworn there was a way to downrank Skyrim to thd right one? Idk but.. i am going to say it. They act like Bugthugsda wasnt firing at them through Skyrim lifetime. 😂

[@zoltanandre]

So, according bethesda, the base game has the value of at least 1500 USD? How good of them selling it only for 70 USD /sarcasm

[@kaycee1076]

The most hilarious part of this whole thing is at the end of the quest you get the sniper rifle, use up the magazine then press reload..... _and the gun won't ever reload!_ One magazine and you're done!

[@SabastianWeaver]

It’s a bug

[@RobbieB2606]

Ha the Picard edit was great 😂 Red alert indeed

[@lunchbox997]

I 100% agree with you Gopher, the moment I even interacted with the free questline given to you via the update, I could tell how shallow it really was without needing to spend $7. The voice acting, the writing, it just felt off compared to even the main Starfield content pool. I feel like fan mod content is going to be really slow coming out, but it'll eventually be better than official BGS content.

[@AxeGaijin]

Horse Armour, let's not forget who brought us Horse Armour.

[@thisisnotthechannelyourelo407]

everyone complains about skyrims small dlcs like that, and I never bought them, the game literally forced me to download them for free after not purchasing them after a certain time period, like with all the other creator content too, didn't want any of it, but the game forces me to own it. With the horse armor I thought it was a bug or the game made an unauthorized purchase on my behalf...nope. They just said "take it! We made it! We dont even want your money, we just want you to see the thing we made!"

[@FireTrainer92]

@@thisisnotthechannelyourelo407 they're talking about Horse Armor from oblivion

[@R10system]

This really makes me wonder how different [likely not at all tbh] the landscape of microtransactions would be, if Bethesda decided to just make horse armor a free dlc for PC only, instead of rolling with the $2.50 minimum that Xbox and PS forced for DLCs.

[@thetwo-armedman]

You are not at all out of line in your thinking. I said from the day BGS first released this content that $7 for one measly quest is outrageous. And, the issue is not just the size of the quest; it's an even greater issue that the Tracker's Alliance faction was already in the game, seemingly cut content that they now expect us to pay a premium to acquire! I also have issue with how they (Bethesda/Microsoft) are selling content not for real money, but these "Creation Credit" tokens... I'm concerned they might sell the upcoming expansion in the Creation store when it releases because the expansion is still not available for pre-order on Steam (or the Xbox store). Currently, you can only buy the premium edition upgrade, which includes the expansion and 1000 credits.

[@LordOOTFD]

They're putting them into their own premium cash shop because you can't refund the Bethesda token purchases.

[@zuzoscorner]

Fully agree with you. the create credit work around. 7 dollars bought nuka world at once point which had tons

[@mastermiller4862]

They talk about paying their modders and yeah that's a positive thing. But let's be honest, this is just another opportunity for Bethesda to capitalize on the good nature of their fans. Just take a look at how much modders actually get from Creation Club as well.

[@BenWillock]

Even the "official BGS" content in the older Creation Clubs was just stuff that they'd contracted out to "creators" (modders) and bought the rights to outright.

[@MMmmmVarley]

Thank you for the call out on this BS, Gopher. I really appreciate you raking this 'content' over the coals like it deserves.

[@scarymuttstudio662]

Thanks for the heads up Gopher.

[@wolfhors3_660]

This is the song I been singing since Creations came out. You're right on the money, Gopher.

[@mcpuff2318]

"Paid mods" would be fine if it entailed content that's actually reviewed and verified to be up to the same standard and quality as the rest of the game. What Bethesda has been providing has instead largely been subpar not only to what is already in their games but to what exists as free mods

[@Justanobody8472]

As a modder myself, I would love to be paid for my efforts, but not in this way in where the player HAS to buy it..

[@HiddenStr3ngth]

Lol the standard and quality of the game is dogshit... so if the mods are worse... oof.

[@piotrek593]

Sad thing is they are...

[@oilygarch]

I wouldn't hold modders to such a low standard as "same standard and quality of the rest of the game".

[@Justanobody8472]

@HiddenStr3ngth I tried to make a "whale-tale sarah" mod, and it was declined by bethesda, idk what u want from me...

[@Tautolonaut]

* Serious-faced applause *

[@Robedon]

What's 'funny' is that after they move on in 5-10 years, they'll probably do a starfield anniversary edition with all the 'best' creations but until then, 'how do we milk the whales' will be the business strategy they've been told to implement... Sad state of affairs chasing 'fans' less likely to be your hardcore.

[@piotrek593]

And then NEW creations will be released but NOT included in the package.

[@BubbleoniaRising]

No worries there. I stopped playing the entire game when I got to the storry od the Constant and her crew, couldnt kill the board of directors at Paradiso, and wasnt allowed to settle the crew on a planet using the outpost system. I'll spend my time playing proper stories in Fallout like Sim Settlements 2, thanks.

[@Mr_Bloodjack]

14 years Gopher, 14 years of videos ! I'm pretty sure it's the first time I "see" you like this, even for Fallout 76 you were more moderated. I am actually glad that you're starting to express yourself regarding starfield. Bethesda went too far into the mediocrity on this one.

[@antfart5299]

In fallout 76 you can not buy a power armor skin for 7$ its like 10$ for one skin. So much for Bethesda.

[@speedymunchlax5733]

So that's where Starfield's content went! Thebesda is taking a page from EA and The Sims, where expansion packs used to be beefy and are now carefully dissected and the content is sold in different lighter chunks at heavier prices. Love to see it! Love that for them! Keep TES 6, Todd, I literally don't want it anymore. Skyrim is nice, big and moddable.

[@lrinfi]

Ah, Skyrim. Now with its very own in-game store. Sheesh. Can't even play Skyrim anymore without predatory industry practices also preying on my mind the whole time. It wasn't enough to "experiment" (with predatory industry practices) in the newer games. Nope. Now they're retrofitting older, originally wonderful games with this crap.

[@Duchess_Van_Hoof]

Another price comparison, for 10€ I bought Duck Detective: The Secret Salami; a freshly released indie game where you are a detective who is a duck. The game had 98% on steam, and over the course of a weekend I laughed like I haven't in years. The game is a bit short, but the price asked for is fair and I will gladly buy more adventures of the detective whose spouse left him over his bread addiction. It is worth noting that at the time Starfield had 61% approval rating, which has now gone down to 59%.

[@ErikMalkavian]

1:32 Hell Year "Red Alert" about a new currency (Just another form of a poker chip / Atom / Bethesda / Microsoft-Bucks

[@Bushallmighty]

- How much for this plastic bag? - 10 000$ - Why its so expensive!? - I desperately need the money.

[@1WolfFan]

At this point... I'm not even sure a new Elder Scrolls: Six can pull them out of the 'bad will' they've been generating. (something like the following scenario, popped into my head, just hearing this video. Took me a good half hour to actually type out though... Meant to be cynical and a bit angry, but hopefully isn't prophetic) ... *cut to ten years down the line, after a pretty-mediocre release of TES-6* ... "What's that? We _forgot_ to put in some form of Brotherhood (or any Assassin's Guild) in our exciting new game? So sorry, we'll get right on that." *like, a couple weeks pass* "Here you go, got our devs right on that for you. Costs money to get them to work on it though, since they/we were totally already working on the next game we wanted to do, and definitely not working feverishly to try and squash the 10 worst bugs that make the game literally unplayable (out of thousands of really bad ones that DON'T actively break your saves) so can ya give us 20 bucks? k-thx-bai" And then we load it up, get the quest to kill some grumpy ol' guy who totally isn't practically a carbon copy of Grelod (I'm mini-ranting here, spelling is not the point). Then you wake up in some kind of small little dried-up well with barely any furnishings, and a single person to eliminate as a result. (can't have the player have to go through an entire process of having to FIGURE out ANYthing here). Don't kill them and fight the person at the top of the well who threw you in, (and probably get script-killed, since we can't be TOO complicated now) and lose the faction completely. Or kill them and get access to small nondescript (read generic) hut out in the middle of somewhere. Get the big reveal, that you're entering the "Reign of Justice's" *big [though notably generic] camera sweep, and a few epic music chords*, this is gonna be DRAMATIC* ... "District Office # 0287"... Or whatever silly name they come up with, since they don't want to use any word that could possibly be construed as 'murder', 'assassinate', 'kill', or even 'target'. *this whole paragraph is meant to portray souless AI-like levels of emotion* "oh hey. welcome. those guys over on that that board? yeah go ahead and 'take care' of them... at your leisure. no hurry. thanks bye." *hundreds of generated quests later* "oh yeah. might have something big in store for you, since you're so good at this. go 'get' this specific guy, he's actually got some background history, we think he might be a former office-clerk with us, or something, I don't care, but check it out anyway. might even be an idea, to get him alive, for questioning, you know. You go and chase him down through three whole generic 'dungeons', and find a single journal-book (not voice acting, that's too hard) that doubles as a ledger, and implicates him in a whole anti-killers network of people trying to save all the people who end up on the Reign of Justice's contract-list, but have let a few actual people who needed to be assassinated for actively terrible deeds go, in the process. You get to the guy at the end of the third 'dungeon' which is just a slightly-larger house than average (like Honningbrew Manor), and he says something along the lines of "I can't believe what I've done" and offs himSELF... probably just by poison, because animating someone stabbing themselves, in a video game, is just GHASTLY THEN you get back from the first real mission in the faction, and tell whoever pays you your checks about it, and they get all serious and say. "Oh, we gotta look into this! This could be the end of society as we know it!" - [Net gain from entire faction so far: a single dagger that is actually pretty decent and nearly 1-shots anyone who is completely hidden and has high enough Stealth and One-Handed skills (you know, like any OTHER dagger in the game), and a slightly redder-hued light-armor set that indicates your an agent] Then you never hear anything more about it in-game again... Until a 'Creation' comes up... *Rein of Justice Chapter 001* _(implying they expect to make at least 3 digit's worth of these)_ *"The beginning, part 01"* ONLY 900 guild-coins!!!

[@somerando1073]

I 110% agree with you. I didn't sacrifice myself to buy it anyways and see, since it's not related to my business like it is yours. But every reason you listed are why I didn't want to buy it. Like you said, had it been a full questline for slightly more, still would have felts like a bit of a bad deal, but I'd maybe be willing to shell out for it. Shame, because a particle sniper rifle is the one weapon I want sooo much.

[@brendanelson8669]

Ok, Your point is more than fair and makes sense. I don't care as long as I can see the trackers alliance quest play out....Looking forward to the next episode...and thank you!

[@dedantisocial3315]

Bethesda also released a new outfit that's like five dollars. Just an outfit.

[@ClellBiggs]

This is an industry wide problem at the moment. It speaks volumes about the current state of the AAA game industry. I've gotten to the point where I buy at most one AAA game a year and mostly stick to indies and older games.

[@MatthewEaton]

Did they fix the rifle finally? Fixing it doesn't justify the cost either, but releasing a broken rifle that can't be reloaded is also a terrible trend.

[@wu1ming9shi]

Perhaps they wanted you to pay extra per reload lol! 🤣

[@Prophes0r]

It only costs 100 SpaceCoins to reload. Didn't you read the fine print? Obvious joke...except more than one Executive has been caught joking that players would pay money for reloads...

[@AdamaSanguine]

I already paid for the Deluxe Version of the game. I'm not spending another dollar! On the bright side, Todd already gave an interview, regarding the current iteration of the Creations System. He apologized and said "They heard what people were saying" and "The got the message!". He also said "They were going to change it..".

todd always says what you want to hear, that's all

[@AdamaSanguine]

That may be true, but I'm happy with the new "transparency" theme Bethesda has been using as of late.

[@lrinfi]

He said the same with Fallout 76. They still released what MATN himself called 'a storm in a teacup" to try to bring people back to 76 so they can be duped into spending even more than they already have in that game's macrotransaction store.

[@magickaddict]

Awesome Video as usual! The Trackers Alliance quest line bundle with 10 or more quests, all of them as involved as the first one, should cost $7. Then I may consider it. This is a joke.

[@antonioloma2327]

5:40 In SI metrics, the "micro-" prefix is 10^-6, not 10^-4 /pedantic This "creation" has less than 1/220th of the basegame value, at 1/10th of the cost (inversely, for that price we would get 22 basegame quests). It's not a micro-transaction but instead it's in the order of the deca-transaction (not deci-, deca-).

[@IvanIvanov-qx5oz]

thank you

[@ihaztehSNIPAH]

i hate that they are now mixed in with regular creations

[@GophersVids]

Agreed. I even hate the fact that we have a word that encompasses both.

[@ozziealtec]

When brother Gopher speaks so intently and with such conviction... You know it's absolute fact!

[@kiraward1125]

Thanks for the warning. I do not mind paying the occasional dollar, but I want my dollar's worth. I may seven dollars I better have more than a single kill quest. I want a mini in game novel.

[@thetennessee]

0:12 Understood. Pleasant day.

[@TheTimeWeCall420]

This was the warning sign for what shattered space was to be. A lack lustre added mission that was cut short from being in the full game.

[@prospero7849]

I guess it's looking like we'll never see another honest single player RPG from Bethesda again. What I've seen of Howard's interviews on the Fallout topic etc, certainly doesn't fill me with any hope for that. At this point I can only dread whatever they might have in mind for Elder Scrolls 6, and as for Fallout 5; is it even likely to ever exist in a way we think of Fallout 3 or 4?

[@onyxgrnr666]

Thank you for making this video gopher

[@lud3re384]

I downloaded a few creations but after a while decided against them so hit the "Delete all Creations" function, because I wasn't able to disable or uninstall individual creations from the main menu (only gave me the options to download them again). You know what happened next? All my mods were gone. All my plugins (ESMs, ESLs, etc.) in ModOrganizer, GONE. I'm never touching that Creation racket again. I downloaded all my mods again and got another one to disable the menu entirely. Time and again I am amazed by Bethesda's technical ineptitudes.

[@rojovision]

You're telling me I could get two horse armors for the price of this quest?

[@LordNeros]

you forgot that the free update also added wanted people in the cities that you can get randomly

[@SkintSNIPER262]

Bit of a misconception. They never planned on releasing "nibbles" of a story. The Vulture is a weapon and spacesuit pack. And they decided to throw a small quest in the pack to try to make it more intriguing. But everyone seems to think it's only about the quest.

[@GophersVids]

That actually makes it much worse :(

[@SkintSNIPER262]

@@GophersVids True. It's bad either way you look it at. They they're so hell bent on making money on creations, it should be something faaaarrrrrr down the road. They should have been focused on adding more free updates, making it more inviting to new people and current players.

[@lrinfi]

They've been doing that with so-called "quests" for years, e.g. The Silver Shroud "quest" for Fallout 4. "Kill this person; kill that person; kill some other person." Why? So we can give you a spiffy outfit. )Pretty sure all their "quests" are structured that way these days. "How do we get this item into the game?" Not "what kind of awesome story do we want to tell? Oh, and here's an item that perfectly suits the theme." Oh, but wait. Why give people a spiffy outfit (comprised of insubstantial pixels) when you can sell it to them instead?

[@SkintSNIPER262]

@@lrinfi Welcome to the world of RPG's. They all have "go kill this person for a reward" quests. But you and others are blowing this out of proportion in your own heads.

[@lrinfi]

@@SkintSNIPER262 They certainly do. Once upon a time, however, they had wonders to discover; mysteries and factional conflicts to be resolved; player choices with actual consequences in the game world; and other such "RPG" stuff as that. You know. A narrative experience. The Mystress of Mystery holotape quest of Fallout 76 was actually better. Whatever one thinks of it, there was a story to follow with genuine characters, likely suffering some pretty intense psychological effects given the aftermath in W. Va., along with consequences in the (unfortunately prior to the player's entry) game world even if the player couldn't play through it as a character themselves and actively participate in the story and dialogue. Bethesda's overdependence on the radiant quest system is well known. Not as well known is the industry quest for the fully automated and/or AI generated RPG. David Gaider has told us a thing or two about that. If interested, there's an article based on his tweets on the subject in the May 2023 issue of PC Gamer online titled, "AI-generated story and dialogue is not going to work, says Dragon Age creator David Gaider: 'A lot of effort is going to be wasted on this'" No one is blowing anything out of proportion. "Lackluster" only begins to describe Bethesda's entries of late and the industry drive for obscene profit over and above all else is no doubt a factor along with a mindset of quantity over quality.

[@NickyDrvx]

I love when gopher gets fired up like this

[@ErikMalkavian]

Your EXACTLY RIGHT Gopher... This thing has STILL Got me Angry even though I looking forward to "Shattered Space"

[@DapperDemon]

I had heard people talking about this one being basically microtransactions, but I didn't realize the situation was that bad. I'm glad mod support is finally out, but if I do actually get bored enough to reinstall Starfield for that, I think I'll be avoiding the Creation Club for it entirely just on principle

[@iljasuvanto]

Good take on the matter, Gopher.

[@QuestQuenchers]

Glad more people are disliking this practice of microtransactions in single player games.

[@09spidy]

Witcher 3 DLC side quest: Where the wolf and cat play Reward: A witcher steel sword and a possible followup quest depending on your choices Price: FREE.99

[@JP-pr9re]

Honestly, this seemed like a very good prospective storyline. Adding a couple more factions to SF could have improved the quality of the game significantly. Tracker's Alliance being one and maybe something where you perform assassinations across the settled systems. Each faction, of course, should have dedicated hand crafted storylines. The Tracker's Alliance started off great, then became instantaneous dogshit after the 1st quest. There is no more custom storyline after the introductory mission and you can never get your revenge by capturing Hannibal. Could you have imagined having a quality cat and mouse game throughout the Settled Systems against a criminal mastermind? But, just like everything BGS produces lately, it's just another shallow cash grab with radiant quests galore. I refuse to buy DLC for this game. The game itself is barely above average, and there are days when I wonder why I bought it.

[@PocanthutRex]

To Bethesda: if you're reading this, I do not buy paid-for mods (creations). Not for Oblivion, not Skyrim, not for Fallout...nothing. Give me a full-sized DLC or forget it. I have never bought, and will never buy, paid mods. Period.

[@jclosed2516]

While I like the games (yes Starfield included), I fully agree with you and also never bought any payed mods. Even DLC's get some good inspection before I buy them. And I admit that a fair number of DLC's (like Far Harbor for instance) are worth the money. On that account I wonder how good Shattered Space will be. Anyway - Lucky enough there are lots of free and interesting mods on the Creation Club and, for instance, Nexus. So to have some fun with mods, you don't need deep pockets (or any pockets at all).

[@Starcat5]

Anyone else not getting audio from this video? At first I thought the issue was on my end, but other videos on this platform work fine on this device.

[@Starcat5]

N/M. Got it working. Not sure what went wrong.

[@Kenny-yu6gc]

I played through once fully, finding every possible side quest and power leveling to get the highest tier of ship parts. With the faux choices and consequences, the only replayability comes from experiencing the game again with new builds and characters, but I do not have an atom of desire to replay this disrespectfully grindy game again, just to try a different build. NG+? To level up exponentially slower as you go while becoming a master of all where you can switch weapon types and play styles on the fly if you get bored.

[@funsamgaming]

Big fan of what they done to game since release, especially the extreme mode settings. But even I am keeping well away from 1 quest for £7

[@mrgeebee1622]

I got 1000CC for free so well, I used it on the mod anyway. But I would never ever pay for it with real money. Well, I already did sort of since I bought the Premium Edition way back then. To bad the game state is so bad. Great video, thanks!

[@Asgeirsun]

Video is out 1 min and already bot accounts with softcore p*rn images are already spamming the comments... Great job youtube, your filters are awesome! Edit: Since they are already flagged and blocked by Gopher or his mod team, you can't see them any more here but stop replying to me insinuating it is a problem on my end. Go to any big channel and look at the comments of any new video they post. It is Bots on Bots on Bots.

[@johnthompson245]

Interesting, I’ve never seen anything like that…

[@robertlightall413]

You've got malware on your computer, buddy. Time to clean up.

[@doomflame7418]

@@robertlightall413it’s not malware, youtube comment bots have been a thing showing up on channels for years, exactly how it was explained above with the similar profile pics and words that are commented

[@GophersVids]

I try to remove them as they appear. Sorry if I miss any :(

[@Asgeirsun]

@@GophersVids No you are fine they were gone as fast as they appeared. I am just annoyed at youtube's constant inability to safeguard the comment section.

[@LabelsAreMeaningless]

You're not being hyperbolic. You're completely correct on this issue. Not to mention, everyone who does pay for it only enables Bethesda to continue down this path and get worse and worse. I get influencers buying to review and warn the public, but the public needs to stop with the 'oh it's just'.. or 'it's awful but I'll still give them the money'. Your money is a reward, never reward bad behavior. Tell them what you want with your money because it's the one thing they understand and they require it to stay afloat.

[@Fooflinger]

"micro transactions are NOT micro" well said, so damn true

[@rarius2159]

Thanks Gopher! Based on that review alone I am definitely not dragging out a credit card.

[@lucianjaeger4893]

from 5$ for horse armour $18 for a power armour paint skin 7$ for a gun, 3 outfits and a quest Wasnt automaton for F4 7$ i often wonder if Bethesda just throw a bunch of numbers into a bowl and pick one at random.

[@tomsite2901uk]

I lost it when you said "It's Horse Armour". The moment i saw this popping up in the Creations i just thought "Smart move to rip people off". They are releasing a new faction quest and then charge you for each tiny addition to it. This can go on forever. On one hand it is nice to see a little bit more backgound for the Trackers Alliance but otherwise the entire alliance is pointless, more of a tiny, bad copy of the Rangers.

[@Funkdumpling]

The new sniper rifle is great until it bugs out and won't fire. This is my biggest gripe since you pay for it! Great vid btw! You have a new sub!🤜🤛

[@schmonzo42]

bgs learned their lesson just fine: they can nickel and dime people because those people will still buy their stuff as long as they pump enough money into marketing. starfield sold fine. their next soulless husk of a game will sell fine. this is fine.

[@kappascrolls6495]

I am already over this game, have been since late last year. I don't see myself coming back and am incredibly wary with any and all new Bethesda content. I also don't have high hopes for any new Elder Scrolls games since Todd said it would be an amazing RPG Sandbox, but I never wanted just an empty sanbox, i want them to have a story to tell and tell it well. Starfield didn't work for me on a lot of levels and last year I made the decision to not preorder pretty much anything anymore and try to spend my money a lot smarter and cautiosly going forward.

[@Prophes0r]

So, a little bit of quickly crafted quest, plus endless generated garbage. Tack on a price-tag, some "skins", and a base game gun with a new name and higher stats. ... How is this different than the rest of Starfield? I cannot remember being THAT bored by another game. I have put many thousands of hours into Bethesda games. I enjoy their worlds. The entire time I was playing Starfield I was thinking "I should really do some laundry." or "Is it too late to power-wash my sidewalk? Do I have a power washer or did I give it to my brother? I should get a power washer if I don't have one..." Starfield feels....maliciously tedious. It's like they brought in some PsyOps people after the writing and artwork were done, just to test the limits of what people would tolerate. It's like someone described what a Bethesda game was with one PowerPoint slide of bullet points, then an executive farmed it out to a D-tier mobile game developer. I can only remember returning 5 games. Ever. 2 were so broken that they could not run on a single machine I owned. 1 was a clear bait and switch that I fell for because it was $5. 1 was an accidental purchase that was trying SO hard to look like the game I meant to click on (and was $4 so I wasn't paying THAT much attention) And the last was Starfield. I haven't been hyped for a game since they ruined the Shadowrun games. (Nor have I used Kickstarter since then...) But even with ZERO hype or expectations other than "Be a Bethesda game with some interesting places to go find." I was still utterly disappointed. IMO, the whole point of a Bethesda game is to be doing something, then get distracted when you glimpse something that leads you astray, because that thing MUST have been placed there by a person, so there is SOME story to be found. The procedural generation completely removes that. That shed with 7 shovels, a sleeping bag, and 100 cans of tuna isn't some glimpse into the madness of some prospector who ruined their entire life searching for something that they could never find. It's just Structure.Shed4 > Object.Outpust.Tools.Add(5-9) > Object.Food.Cheap(3-10) No mystery. No story to find. Content for content sake. It doesn't make the world feel more full. It makes it feel fake and lonely.

[@Notasheepleandneverwillbe]

I bought the full game with all of the add-ons . And that gave me $10 to use in the creation store . I still haven't used it , I haven't seen anything that's worth spending my money on . The mods that are free actually have way more content and reward than the ones that you pay for .

[@FallenExarch4]

Thank you Gopher, I really truly appreciated this well thought out, well discussed explanation of your thoughts on this. Creations for modders is one thing, but this kind of thing from the studio who made the game, is not right, and not cool.

[@shetlandapache949]

Love how its called the vulture and they are feeding off the corpse of their fanbase

[@LabelsAreMeaningless]

Bethesda got spanked on paid mods before, it also severely divided the modding community (which Bethesda needs to keep selling games). It amazes me that they're like 'let's try this again!' I don't know who is currently making these decisions, but they're inept, destructive and need to be replaced.

[@JezaGaia]

Thank you for confirming this for me, it was my impression but now I know for a fact it's another horse armor kind of deal.

[@FireTrainer92]

It's not.

[@JezaGaia]

@@FireTrainer92 LOL did you even watch the video ? it absolutely is.

[@chaserseven2886]

gopher, when will you come back to minecraft? i'd like to see a gopher style roleplay of it

[@dedantisocial3315]

Remember Todd Howard said that initially it was going to be 7 dollars just for the gun then they later decided to add a quest for the gun. This was very poor taste by Bethesda and his response was very tone-deaf.

[@Prophes0r]

Executive makes a tone-deaf response to a problem they caused by having no understanding or care for their product. Shocked that people won't just give them every dollar. That is what 'regular' people are supposed to do. ...

[@speedymunchlax5733]

Isn't he kind?

[@human3504]

I wonder how well this video will do. Given what Gopher said in his last live stream if there will be more Starfield.

[@martyk656]

I wasn't planning on buying it but as a world class contrarian, since you told me not to, I probably will now. ;) BTW, for some reason I've already got 1100 points to play with credited to my account. Damn Bethesda for trying to reel me in. :) Also, I earned enough MS Rewards points this week alone, to get $10 worth of creation points. None of this stuff costs me actual cash. People paying $7 for a cup of coffee is more egregious to me - but taking up a crusade for others is a fool's game that I've learned not to play. I never bought the horse armor. Or any skins from the Destiny Eververse store with Silver. Or any Diablo skins. I do have the ability to resist bad transactions.

[@Bryankbenge2]

Man I’m so mad I was hoping that the trackers alliance quests would keep going I really liked the idea of bounty hunting to further the quest line which prompted me to look this video up.. I’m so mad that this faction or whatever doesn’t even have a quest line and is being fed to us in pieces through transactions. Like this has totally annoyed me to the point I want to stop playing. I’ve beat the game several times already and just decided to do some of the side quests and this was the one I was really stoked about. Been doing bounty’s thinking I would be given another story quest soon but I’m like 20+ bounty’s in and nothing yet.. 😂 I had no idea there aren’t anymore story quests for the faction!!!

[@asham868]

Without a doubt, they will do more stuff like this. And people will keep buying it, and it will get more and more costly and scummy

[@SubiKinubi]

Prospective Starfield: $10 30 min quest Elden Ring: $40 50 hour dlc(game) No one can defend that

[@wolfhors3_660]

Please don't look behind the curtain, my dear Gopher 😂😂😂

[@christiankaiser3885]

I wonder if Todd knows that he is not favoured by gamers anymore. Does he know, that his legacy has shifted into the Father of Microtransactions and ingame purchases, rather than the guy who makes good games. We all told him this would happen, when they made the Horse Armor DLC for Oblivion. They made them anyway. Who will buy the Microtransactions, if nobody is playing the game, Mr. Howard? Perhaps you should finish theShattered Space DLC package that people already paid for, instead of adding in new pay-walled content... But what do i care, I'm never buying any of their games at launch again after Fallout 76.

[@morssusurri8316]

As soon as I saw this I thought… oh my god I get a thief review pt 2 on Starfield this time 🤣

[@mickeyB6453]

you said what i've been feeling. Bethesda putting official content on the CC hub bothers me. it's supposed to be for mod creators but they're sullying that intent with their microtransaction/mini DLC. AND pricing it way over what it's worth. if they want to release new content, put it out as DLC on the store page. what theyre doing is disingenuous.

[@Enoonb]

I think I speak for a lot of people that instead of buying Memefield I got Cyberpunk. It was a worthy investment. And that's coming from a former hardcore Bethesda fanboy.

[@CrazyxEnigma]

CDPR has never done even half the bs Bethesda has tried to get away with over the years.

[@xSaintAngelusx]

In this "system". Dark Brotherhood in Skyrim, you like that questline? That'll be 84$ (usd) if the first mission is free. So, like over 200$ (rough guess not looking up quest numbers) for all the faction questlines. Totally what they want to do going forward, if they can get away with it. Joy.

[@Sion67Productions]

Bethesda, you hacks

[@MuraCasardis]

Just a reminder that Witcher 3 Hearts of Stone and Blood & Wine cost 10 USD and 20 USD respectively (before tax).

[@gulskjegglive]

After the Starfailed debacle, I intend to never giver Bugthesda another penny.

[@Enlightentite]

Watching this video gave me a deep sense of satisfaction. I was elated to hear your advice which demonstrably changed the course of my life. I shall not be purchasing this 'Creation'.

[@IDPhotoMan]

Bethesda continues to underperform, even though they KNEW that people have complained about these overpriced "quests" that should just be free. It's unreal.

[@DonnaTheShark]

$7 for one freaking mission and some stuff? That's insane!

[@Opnn8d1]

I'm all for them releasing an episodic series of stories and monetizing each episode. However, they need to use common sense and base their pricing model on pre-existing digital entertainment products. Take TV series released on Amazon Video for example. If not flagged as a Prime video, you can buy the individual episodes at around $3 per. And they provide 45 minutes to an hour of content. If I were to create a series of quest mods and monetize them under the verified creations program, I would set my price so that when Bethesda tacks on their cut, what an individual would pay would be roughly 300 Credits, and the quest would last at minimum 45 minutes to an hour if the player explores and discovers everything I include. If I aim to release 10 episodes in the course of a year, once the final episode releases individually, I would also release a season bundle, which would include all the episodes at 2700 credits. I wouldn't expect many sales of that compared to the individual episodes, but some people like to get bundles when offered, so I would want them to have that option. Bethesda's problem is that in spite of wanting Starfield to last as a commercially successful endeavor for at least a decade, they are chasing short-term gain rather than potentially larger long-term gains. One of the Skyrim Verified Creations introduced a massive valley's worth of explorable content complete with weapons and armor, which added a significant amount of content. And it was generally well received. The modder responsible had already established a reputation for quality work, and that makes people not mind spending money for reasonably priced content. Bethesda needs to drop the short-term gain pursuit if they expect Starfield to enjoy anywhere near Skyrim's level of long-term success. The launch of the game itself in the lackluster state it was in cost them a lot of good faith. They need to earn back that good faith, but quarter and dollaring people with their official creations is not the way to do it.

[@Geezer_Gun]

Love the rant, mate!