Gor-Rok Immortal Empires Campaign Review

[@Dark40061]

I did what you say and it did work and thank you so much for this video and the info

[@Santi_Nell]

I'd even argue that Gor-Rok is a great campaign for new players, given he gets a ridiculously overpowered legendary hero slann from the start. It's so easy to just throw Gor-Rok solo into a fight and make the A.I stack multiple units on top of him making it textbook-level easy to spam aoe spells (i'd get like 1k+ kills on Kroak in turn 8-9 battles sometimes)

[@mattandrews2594]

This. In fact most of the Lizard campaigns should be recommended in-game as beginner friendly, while The Empire should be taken off. CA aren't gonna do it though, which makes me believe they don't understand their own game.

[@connerair3520]

​@@mattandrews2594 it's not that they don't understand, it's that they just don't give a fuck. They are busy creating more DLCs so they can get more of your money. You already bought the base game, no need to waste time there improving it when it's of no monetary benefit to them.

[@loveluclins]

@@connerair3520 It's not like they don't care, it's that there's a lot of technical debt. We still get reworks, we got immortal empires for free now... etc.

[@Grivehn]

@@mattandrews2594 Beginner factions remain the same, cuz theyre human (-like, in case of Tyrion), have diverse armies closer to what historical TW players might have got used to. Thats all. You also dont want to set DLC factions as beginner-friendly, that would look pretty bad on CA. Also, with all the faction changes between WH1-3, difficulty changes, and whether you turn in endgame or not, you'll get vastly different results at who is easy and who isnt. They are just not willing to put in the work - of even listening to campaign players - to change a simple recommendation people care about as much as about Terms and Services. Putting Kislev as beginner-friendly was definitely a mistake though, even lorewise they are in a horrible place geographically, and thats well translated into the game. Gor-rok on the other hand was easy in WH2, but now he is surrounded by enemies. I fought tooth and nail for like 70 turns (granted, in SFO) to grind down Pestilens, and I still had Delves, Khorne, Tomb Kings and even Vcoast who literally resurrected at Awakening a turn after I finally wiped them out the first time. That was the hardest early game I ever had in any campaign. Id argue Tehenhauin is at a much better place to start off with to the south. Itza is in the middle of Lustria, surrounded by enemies.

[@Nr4747]

Lord Kroak is simply ridiculous. I just started playing Warhammer 2 after playing Warhammer 1 for over 300 hours and despite doing everything to beat Gor-Rok's army with my high elves on normal difficulty, Lord Kroak still got over 300 kills - despite the AI being bad at using magic correctly.

[@doktarr]

The "trick start" part of these guides are great.

[@gagepresbury7200]

I really do love this series, it was a great idea and honestly I like it more than your streams at times

[@vincida7432]

short and helpful i agree

[@lukeottaway5660]

One of my funnest campaigns in Warhammer 3, had a blast with Gor-Rok. Lustria is so much nicer to fight in compared to Warhammer 2.

[@peterhardie4151]

I failed multiple Legendary Teclis campaigns in Warhammer 2. Some nasty stuff happened down there.

[@WhatsleftofTom]

@@peterhardie4151 Teclis was my first Helf legendary campaign in 2, second ever legendary run. A tough spot down there, so many mistakes

[@Gralic600]

Legend reviewing each LL campaign: "So you can cheese this by simply doing that (...)" Please, never change!

[@philipadubose]

That strategy was awesome!!! It was insanely easy. Playing on legendary and having a blast. This will be my first lizardmqn campaign. Thank you so much for all the awesome information in this series!!

[@highfalutinman]

Gor-rok's my favorite lord hands down, and Kroak's an absolute juggernaut. His campaign is so easy I actually allow Skrolk to get stronger before marching into his territory outnumbered like Alexander wolfing down Persia

[@zaxxis7177]

Thanks for video. I had diffrent start (maybe they patched something) so i will give me advice to people with same problem. I did the same with nurgle which was very helpful, but Skrolk wasnt in Oyxl. I took Oxyl only using heroes and dino and then used Kroak to scout Subatuun, there will be new lord starting to recruit. Skrolk will be in Time Guardian full stack with extra army so u should make ambush in trees, he will go take back Oxyl and with one point in ambush u should have 86% of doing it good, then u kill him and easy cake.

[@mage6325]

i love these reviews short and fun, hope you could come up with some other series where you discuss units and or lords

[@marcus1116]

I played this capaign recently and what suprised me is how fast the number of your enemies start to grow. It was like turn 10 when I have consolidated the two starting provinces (Itza and Oxyl) and I was already at war with Harkon, Bordeleaux, Wulfhart and Rakarth + like three minor factions ( clan spittel for example). Also funny thing is that i didn't manage to confederate oxyotl, nakai or tahanuin since all three of them died while refusing to join me. Itza also haw pretty easy conditions for short campaign victory (i did it by accident at around turn 40).

[@VDarksteel]

CA must have seen this video, got down there and turn 3 and Skolk is no where to be seen.

[@Tharrel]

yeah, I don't think it works anymore

[@pantheon6522]

I played a Lizardmen army way back when and my leader was always Gor-Rok with a cohort of Temple guard at the core. Now so many years later I get to see that minature I painted come to life and smash up Skaven by the hundreds. He might not be the best legendary lord, he might not be the most fun legendary lord, he might not be the most skill based legendary lord, but he is the legendary lord that I waited on ever since warhammer 1 got announced, and ever since warhammer 2 I fell in love with that big murder block all over again. I just wish Temple guard were a bit more stronger for a viable late game melee grind build.

[@iboral5432]

First of all many thanks for reviewing all these campaigns. I can confirm that in June 2023, your start suggestion still works to a huge degree. I did not find skrolk in turn 3 but I still took their main settlement away and caused a huge issue to their recruitment. However, I recommend NOT doing this to people looking for a challenge. I play VH/VH and after I crippled clan pestilens in turn 3, there was no more challenge left in this campaign. Just been straight sailing. Regardless, many thanks for all your hard work Legend!

[@11---------]

man, played a gor rok campaign last night, hes so damn fun, having an army of boosted sauros warriors and then gorok himself being basically unkillable with his items is so fricken fun, and then having some skinks to catch any fleeing enemies bc theyre so fast, i love the lizardmen. oh and not to mention the giant nuke flinging frog wizard that follows behind.

[@akantor0811]

Liking these guides but still miss your saving battles some of those were just shockingly impressive cheese

[@thebweadguy3028]

started a normal Gor-Rok campaign yesterday, didn't fight the rats till they attacked me with 2.5 stacks, still won cause Kroak got 3k kills

[@scarletcroc3821]

I think this campaign is perfect for new players. New players tend to be more defensive and Gor Rok is all about defense. Additionally he also starts the game with an insanely powerful legendary hero. HE are easier to use, but Gor Rok just gives so many good defensive bonuses

[@dzav8909]

Interesting start will try it thanks for the great videos Legend 👏

[@stonefolk2778]

I love this campaign. It might be my favourite campaign.

[@joshbruess8849]

Love the lizardmen. I ran gor-rok on the table top solely cause I love him as a character. He was my first campaign in total war. Though I think cha'xak should be in his role being he's the ultimate slann body guard. Gor'rok should still be in the area but he was all about repelling anyone dumb enough to go to lustria as well as stomping deamons

[@amilldr]

Keeping with the lizards, would like to see Tehenhauin next.

[@SpiceCh]

I think rotating between factions might be wisest. That way he gets the broadest coverage of the player base instead of catering to the players of one faction at a time :)

[@thetaleofzulu3693]

Yes my fav LL! Thank you Legend

[@Masquerade1200]

Not watched you for a good 18 months. Really liking these reviews especially cause I'm not great with the starting moves

[@LegendofTotalWar]

welcome back

[@liammccabe05]

Looking forward to trying this! Was at a total loss on how to deal with Skrolk, as I kept getting to turn 15 or 20 and they would declare war and hit me with 4 full stacks. Hopefully this alleviates that 😊

[@SamuraiMorshu]

Nurgle recently getting an MP buff but still on life support on campaign lol

[@ReaperOfSaltyTears]

I love pvp Nurgle, campaign is painful. Even modding it to a different start location results in that "watching paint dry" feeling. So sloooooow, in literally every aspect.

[@KorsAir1987]

Hopefully they got some changes to the campaign side too.

[@Morris_Minor]

Just make their buildings fucking normal 😂 I hate the merry go round building wait time, yeah it's a cool gimmick but just lemme build it.

[@thunderball11111]

@@ReaperOfSaltyTears Honestly I didn't enjoy nurgle all that much when I played him but he's definitely the most powerful lord I think i've ever played on campaign. Once you have even a small base of say 5-10 cities there's genuinely nothing in the game that can beat the combo of give them all attrition plague before declaring war, then throw 0 upkeep nurgling 20 stacks at them on loop until they die.

[@justashibainu]

Gor-Rok is a lot of fun, an easy campaign where you can just sit back and crush your enemies with the insanely OP magic of Kroak. In my recent Gor-Rok campaign I had 8 doomstacks of Temple Guard, Carnosaurs, Stegadons, and other elite units stomping all over Ulthuan and the Empire just because I wanted to.

[@isaacgorski6054]

Aw yes. Gor rok. The "control all of lustria by turn 35" start

[@Fortexx200x]

I'm curious how Lord Skrolk is doing in warhammer 3. Love this serious a lot Legend! Keep it up!!

[@watermelon1339]

I just started a Gor-Rok campaign and couldn't find a video from you about him lol

[@Mellenium]

Nice, i liked Gor-Rok. Now Wulfric

[@Cypress77]

I have thousands of hours played across all 3 Total Warhammers, but I've still never played a single turn as Gor-Rok for some reason. I'll play him next.

[@TisTheWay]

Looking forward to the Boris overview

[@jabloko992]

Karak Kadrin I swear it's up there with Kislev on the pain scale. 3 annoying af grudges in 3 different directions, constant enemies across vast distances, trash economy and last patch the slayers were bugged (not sure if that's fixed yet)

[@mawortz]

Its the best campaign in my opinion

[@Nobdythere]

Gor Rok was my first full map conquest in Warhammer 2. First and last haha.

[@evanescentdoom2629]

yea lord Skrolk isn't sitting in Oyxl on turn 3 anymore both times I did this start on very hard hard he hasn't been in there. Maybe I'm unlucky but still just saying it's still pretty easy just he isn't sitting in there anymore.

[@SenorRed]

i did this, but it did not end out as you said it would-- skrolk didnt turn out to be in oyxl, and turned out to be miles away from it when i took his two settlements. After that the dwarves took xhotl from me, so i couldnt get the river quetza province

[@Sentinel2k6]

I love the Lizards way to much in Total war. Gor-Rok is one of my Favorites

[@Vandelberger]

Been role playing as Oxyatl and I am giving basically all of Lustria to Gor Rak, as he is launching a great tide into dark elf lands. My main Oxyatl armies are in the northern waste conquering everything.

[@Zucca2011]

Lizardmen as a faction just needs some more interesting campaign mechanics and they would be perfect. Either make Geomantic Web interesting and/or introduce a Great Plan mechanic

[@kvltofsobek90]

Recruitment should be based on increasing capacity by restoring spawning pools too

[@Squilliam2314]

Love the series

[@rabgix8805]

I love my photos shield lizards.

[@BlackHawk21ification]

The tips for the campaign start no longer work as the rat won't be at OYXL recruiting anymore he'll be even further below at chupayotl or time sentinels

[@retro3564]

Gor-Rok is insane strong when he is level up correctly...he is a one man doom stack just vanilla...in early game, i just put him up on then enemys walls, and he kill everything...and i help out with krolk of course.. Sieges is the most diffecult in early game in the lack of catapult of any kind for the lizzard men..your army get smashed by the towers.

[@hooktraining3966]

In Warhammer 2 i just always leveled up his personal combat tree and rushed him to the sword of Kaine. With that kind of power he could not be defeated by the AI

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

A FROGGE IS A SMOL BEASTIE

[@87mc12]

Anyone else noticed how he doesn't say "cya next time, fuckers" anymore? 😂

[@sim.frischh9781]

I still haven´t played Gor-Rok even a single time in TWWH2, i kept going for Ikit Claw over and over again... and the Dwarfs, i LOVE the Dwarfs. But i do want to play more Lizardmen. Hopefully i don´t forget that when choosing Lord and end up playing Ikit Claw again... -.-

[@marleysouza3205]

for some reason I didn't get enough experience after the first fight to level up

[@andrerodon3921]

I feel the campaign starts off fun but have never finished it although I have started it many times...

[@TheRealSlimTeddy]

Thanks!

[@trishgellam6516]

Great starting advice.

[@hooktraining3966]

ROK AND STONE

[@007whiterussian2]

I am playing as luthor harkon rn and gor rok is such a bitch to deal with I allied with the skaven and they can’t beat him and I don’t have enough monies to make a strong enough army to take itza yet with harkon away north so it’s been a back and forth for like 60 turns haha

[@eduardoribeiroucv9630]

I personally prefer Temple Guards over saurus warriors because they have cool hats 😊

[@Wrathful_Scythe]

My current empire campaign is nearing its end and I was thinking to give the lizards another look. This made my choice quite easy.

[@Jaann1919]

Don't sleep on Oxyotl and Tehenauin

[@morgothbauglir8706]

sleep on oxyotl and thenauin and embrace big frog go boom and lizard too stubborn to die

[@forsenlevel2425]

Rakarth next maybe?

[@holdinmcgroin8639]

certified forsenLevel campaign

[@forsenlevel2425]

@@holdinmcgroin8639 we are reaching max level soon

[@mattandrews2594]

Legend decided the order probably months ago, and they come out in all likelihood on a predetermined schedule. You do then realise comments like this are pointless?

[@forsenlevel2425]

@@mattandrews2594 I am leveling so hard right now forsenLevel

[@googleandsusansucks]

@@forsenlevel2425 Ranrok Dragon PepeLaugh

[@benjaminleuze8575]

Can you do skrolk next?

[@SamSam-bk7dz]

Frigging Gorok soloed my whole Cathay jade warrior army, I killed all his other units (5 stegadon and other things). 4 canon shot and he is still full hp at the end.

[@LordSevarg]

They must have buffed the Skaven because turn 3, they are coming back from taking a city to the South, and have a full stack, while training another stack in their new city

[@Boingy420]

I dunno if it's been said or done. But did Legend consider doing a campaign review for Settra?

[@LordPratticus]

❤❤❤

[@taurvanath]

I got there and Skrulk wasnt there.

[@ChewySmokey]

tried opening strat by killing rats to the south by turn 3, 2 full stacks of rats come knocking by turn 6 and start rolling my shit as more come each turn. not sure how I'm struggling with Gor-Rok so damn much

[@billbaggins7355]

Yeah if you don't deal with Skrolk early like that you're gonna be chasing like four of his armies around while he absolutely ravages your territory.

[@male_maid5951]

multiplayer campaign - the defensive sieges is far more important here. i understand this is nott part of the video, but thought it should be noted

[@Agarrus2530]

cant make it there on turn 3 even with route marcher

[@Agarrus2530]

NM i made it there. Skolk was already out though

[@NeptuniumNecromancy]

How did you make by that time, I wasn’t able to (I was also using route marcher)

[@Christian2k02]

have you made one for Nakai?

[@arnehenkler8391]

Did you know that KZbin has a search function?

[@Christian2k02]

Did you know it’s not illegal to ask a simple question inside of a place where you can legit comment any thing you want?

[@brickphone8069]

Ok why tf is my Gor Rok’s health so low, he started at 2500ish health and hasn’t gone up since, I don’t understand how you increase your units in this game

[@Slycarlo]

Do Settra next, he is the most difficult to play without any mods, youre sorrounded by other factions which has much better starting roster like Skarbrand in the north and less than 20 rounds Arkhan will blitz you with good full stack while you are busy dealing with Vlad in your southern border

[@maximcharest]

Turn 3 get rid of Mannfred. After that blitz for Volkmar. Get ready for Arkhan and his 2 fulls stacks of thrash units. After that Skarbrand should arrive and bit later TikTaqTo and a bit after that Repanse. Never forget that you are Settra King of Kings and everything should go well.

[@benjaminleuze8575]

He already did settra

[@Romczy]

Settra does not surf

[@fatwe1992]

Skrolk review next? Nasty lizard things die!

[@senshibat8920]

Itza Great.

[@Nemesisboonta]

rock hard

[@12SickOne34]

Rock'n'Stone, Bruwah!

[@Haromour]

as a skrolk main my biggest concern was Gor-Rok, WHII he was a pain, but in WHIII he just is so passive and easy to bait it's lame.

[@davidhenriksson285]

You forgot his magic items

[@sobmadrox]

sEventee dubbl3d iz wun hundrid an fyftee

[@magnussthered]

Everyone is saying this campaign is easy yet here I am getting my base attacked by rakath, luther harkon, bretonnia, and beastmen all at the same time at like turn 10......

[@FraLoddo98]

Still waiting for the player anti-Bias, just absurd

[@zkyrus1873]

LMAO LORD KROAK

[@valeclaw1697]

Dealing with early Skaven as Kroq and Gor has frustrated tf out of me given they're just better at moving around the fucking jungle than you

[@pascaldifolco4611]

I think Gor Rok should recruit Kroak a bit later (say level 5 to 10), as it is it makes the early game super easy, Kroak just kill all the enemy chaff

[@MrPink-qe1rm]

Wasnt much of a miss but gor roks weapon.....really its not much to talk about.

[@TalosLordOfNight]

I would argue this is the easiest campaign in the game

[@shaner1912]

Huzzah

[@loboxthy2040]

hello

[@omarahmedx]

It's no wonder Legend gets bored with his campaigns at around turn 40 or so. By doing that start and eliminating one of your main threats as early as turn 3 you've essentially taken out a lot of the early game challenge from this campaign. While it's useful to know things work under the hood I feel like this type of gameplay hurts your campaigns and therefore your overall enjoyment of the game more on the long run.

[@cosmicowl42069]

lmao while I appreciate the trick start tips, Itza is already the easiest campaign in the game

[@vladdrakul7851]

What do I think?? I think Legend comes from *'a land down under, where women glow and men thunder!'* G'day to all you Bruces and Sheilas and my Sydney living uncle Digby! Gore Rocks!