Got what you paid for? Rust & hardness tested Benchmade Intersect & High Country, Spydie Ark, Pivot

System is what a knife is. Not just a blade or handle or sheath. Everything together is what constitutes a knife. If any of the critical elements in the system fails, the whole thing is not worth having. Agree or disagree?
#knife #sharp #spyderco #benchmade
Disclaimer: this video is for entertainment purposes only! Replicating any of the actions depicted in this video may cause damage to a knife or or void its warranty!

[@CuttingBoardRx]

This video took forever to film and edit. Wow! Am I trying to cram too much in every video? Thanks for watching and appreciate your feedback!

[@tayloralexander291]

Best, most Informative videos. Thanks for your work. How does Spyderco's Magnacut stack up, Rockwell wise?

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@tayloralexander291 Native 5 was featured in the last corrosion video and measured 61.7 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnvKeICMia9qg7csi=r_tJWFdT60xVDdyd

[@tayloralexander291]

Awesome.

[@sprinkleddonuts6094]

The Salt line from Spyderco was designed to be carried/used in areas that are more “salty” than others. Like in or near the ocean.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@sprinkleddonuts6094 No shirt, Sherlock!

[@DanMatheny-sl7xk]

Sacrificing your time and money to provide the most in-depth and unbiased testing hands down.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Thanks so much AGAIN!

[@dbuck01]

Huge respect for endangering, or even sacrificing, your gear in the pursuit of some concrete answers.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Thank you for the great compliment!

[@BenCase88]

Thanks!

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Much obliged! Lmk if you have any questions!

[@Sharpbevel]

Another great video. Get Spyderco if you want Magnacut.

[@lawrenceragnarok1186]

Just don't get magnacut, it's mid at best.

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

@@lawrenceragnarok1186not even close to true

[@lawrenceragnarok1186]

@@BrandonGavin_EDC it's pretty true dude. I have several magnacut knives and they're not very stainless, they hold an edge about as well as vg10 and they don't feel great on the stones. It's all hype.

[@davidf3974]

@lawrenceragnarok1186 wym by not very stainless? I use my edc s45vn on citrus fruits daily and haven't had a problem on the blade (hardware is another story though) so I'm curious what your experiences with magnacut are

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

@@lawrenceragnarok1186 idk who you got your magnacut from but properly heat treated magnacut will be very stainless regardless and hold an edge pretty damn good, around CPM-cru wear and CPM 4-V. Just slightly under similar RC S90V. It also is more stainless than even 20CV which is the best PM steel and only outside Vanax and LC200N.

[@mel87123]

When these videos get around, manufacturers will realize they need to up their game.

[@stephenbarabas6286]

Up their game how? It's stainLESS not stainPROOF and every normal person knows this information and that's why all manufacturers will tell you "maintenance is key" to keeping your knives in top shape

[@mel87123]

Every normal person? I am not even going to touch that. Maintenance is important. But, there are obvious differences in performance from brand to brand and from knife to knife within a brand. There is always room for improvement. It is good to have an objective measure to assess performance. It can help consumers make informed choices, drives competition, improves quality, and can keep manufacturers honest. I have no idea why someone would argue that is not a good thing...unless they are a knife maker without integrity.

[@stephenbarabas6286]

@@mel87123 🙄 yup... You got me. I'm a knife maker... My point that you obviously missed was this "test" showed nothing that people already didn't know... Hence the term stainless and not stainproof. Even Spyderco says it's salt series will resist rusting but it's not rust proof...

[@mel87123]

@@stephenbarabas6286 "obviously missed"...rudeness doesn't improve an argument

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Hey, that’s how normal knife makers talk. We should be grateful that Stephen took some time off of knife making and graced us with his words of wisdom!

[@Tunnelmath]

I would love to see the quiet Carry drift tested. Vanax steel and full titanium.

[@stephenbarabas6286]

🙄 who would have guessed that stain-LESS doesn't mean stain-PROOF...

[@ElCapAddict]

Those black dots at 14:17 are probably the formation of iron(II) oxide, but I’m not a metallurgist. Thanks for doing these tests!

[@jirinafrankova166]

Thank you for genuine tests and information. Greetings from the Czech Republic:)

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Thank you! This means so much to me! How big is the knife hobby in Czech Republic? I know that weapons making in Czechia goes back to the Medieval times, but Mikov is the only brand I reviewed. Are there other brands you could recommend?

[@jirinafrankova166]

@@CuttingBoardRx Hello, Yea, of course. Try to look up Acta Non Verba Knives... it is relatively new knife company in the Czech Republic, focusing on military and tactical knives. It hit an international market few years back. They make high quality products while Mikov is older company but doesnt make any high quality products, but has a long tradition. There are absolutely no restrictions on knife ownership or knife carry in the Czech Republic, So we are pretty free country, one of the last in the European Union, where we can carry and own whatever we like, and even open carry swords in public :-) Have a great day!

[@mugenpower78]

good testing methodology. few knife testers do any rust and hardness tests

[@EDC_USA]

i hate the laser etch, all my guns that have that rust right in that area... walther im talking about you! haha

[@CuttingBoardRx]

OMG A knife guy who likes guns?! Shocker! 😆 Howard Butcher Block Conditioner from HW store will solve all your issues… oops! that didn’t come out right 🤣

[@loosieclocker]

This man is a hero

[@kandcdish]

Thanks for telling it like it really is. Videography is excellent.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Thank you!

[@InitialFailure]

I would like to caution you that "military grade" is rarely a positive term amongst veterans' brothers. It's just a reality of how military contracts are done and awarded and generally refers to meeting "minimum military requirements." Civilian equivalent gear when it comes to outdoor stuff, in many cases, is preferable, such as knives, bags, even pants, shirts, etc. Sometimes, even body armor. -21+ years Army myself

[@CuttingBoardRx]

MIL-STD-1472 is Human Factors Engineering. It’s available free in pdf format freely. It is based on anthropometric surveys conducted over the last 50-60 years, including all of the service personnel such as yourself being measured several times in their career. So the data is solid. Engineers design to these standards but how Program Managers procure is largely dependent on how much pull a manufacturer has in House and Senate Appropriations committees. Thanks for your service!

[@InitialFailure]

@CuttingBoardRx woah calm down, in no way did I say MIL-STD is outright bad. What I said was that it's to a minimum military standard, and often, a civilian piece of kit in certain circumstances is better. I then cited some examples wherein I've seen this to be the case. There's a reason why most EOD (my field) equipment is COTS (Civilian Off The Shelf) or why SF tend to get contracts from vendors outside the normal DoD or DA NSN items that are already MIL-STD. The odds of you seeing a Ranger, EOD, SF, etc. unit rucking an issued ruck sack is insanely rare. Buy, they're MIL-STD!? Best of the best!? Government servants put blood sweat and tears into those designs!?!?! Patriots bled for them!?!? Nah, the DoD, DA, DARPA, etc., get a bunch right but MIL-STD is little more than meeting the bare minimum military requirements and that is usually a very broad and vague concept with a one size fits all mentality where comfort is a last consideration but spending as little as possible is a top priority. It's the government, and I love it, but it is what it is 😆.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@InitialFailure You’re still alive though… brah. Engineer saved your ass more than once.

[@MrBowser2012]

Thanks!

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Sir! You’re spoiling me!

[@MrBowser2012]

@@CuttingBoardRx it’s got to take a ton of time and effort to make such a video, and I appreciate it. Happy to support your efforts!

[@Gman1024]

Thorough testing, interesting results, and am curious how that tester will turn out over time.

[@Ajaxykins]

Great video! Love the HRC testing and corrosion, I'll be sticking to custom makers for my magnacut

[@CuttingBoardRx]

MagnaCut is such middle of the road steel though! I want more interesting and highly specialised steels from custom makers! What are your thoughts?

[@maxgortmaker3544]

Great content! Have you considered making a spreadsheet for public view of some sort that contains all the HRC measurements you’ve taken?

[@carlsalvato8530]

Thanks for doing what everyone else only thinks of.

[@Bobs_Pocket_Knives]

This was awesome! Keep doing what you're doing. 🍻🙌

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Wilco!

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

Mad respect for using your knives like this for the good of Blade science! I microscope/tablet setup is genius too. Really helps see what you want the audience to see close up.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Thanks! I’m trying another microscope soon, might be even better.

[@krzkrupa]

Thank you for your time and $

[@olegpan1]

Many thanks for your hardness tests, hope you will continue it with all knives

[@ZenithRadio]

Thank you for this testing. Much appreciated.

[@thoughtstream9591]

Thanks for another great video!

[@BrandonMeyer1641]

Benchmade needs to fix their heat treatment. My 940 s30v is such a lackluster performer in terms of edge retention. In my personal experience Spyderco bd1n beats it out which is just crazy. Really interested to see what you’ve got cooked up for the precision adjust as well. My setup is good right now but I’m always interested in ways I can improve it. Also looking forward to what you got cooking with the Manix salt. Should be a more accurate comparison to the adira. I’m really interested to see how it fares against the adira in corrosion testing. My hunch is that it’ll be better but I won’t be surprised if there is corrosion around the pivot. Or coil spring.

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

SPy27 and BD1N are pretty close to S30V in regards to edge retention. In Spyderco’s s30V should come out on top just a bit but both of the other steels are very close especially considering you can get some models cheaper than the S30V variant.

[@mel87123]

Wheel of misfortune🤣

[@CuttingBoardRx]

I’m sad that not even you picked up on a joke about squeezing performance out of H1… get it? Work-hardening is achieved by cold-rolling the metal thinner and thinner with every pass. Until it reaches the desired hardness. 🤗

[@davidf3974]

So benchmades cost an arm and a leg and do t have optimal heat treats, that hurts to hear. Well at least you can take advantage of their warranty i guess

[@jufuh1503]

You deliver so much good information, keep the good work!

[@Tedvaard]

Another fantastic test. Thank you!

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Glad you liked it!

[@virginiacomfort100]

Believe it or not, but I found a Benchmade Intersect at a pawn shop for under $150…. Keep any eye out and sometimes you can find a decent price for these. 👍🏽

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@virginiacomfort100 Great find!

[@dalian3903]

Thank you sir for all your work, would love to see a vid of on the undercurrent! ❤

[@KingKsEDC]

Spyderco is top dog in the production knife world. Thats straight facts. Just get a Spyderco.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@KingKsEDC Hmmm. Tested Spyderco Salt Para 2 and 3 as well as Native 5 and Manix 2 LW Salt, not to mention Salt 2 LC200N and H2. All but one had some amount of rust after 24 hr 1% salt fog test. See it all on my channel.

[@cwsmith17]

Very nice knife display brother!

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Thanks!

[@EDCandLace]

H1/H2 Is really a poor performance steel in edge retention as you know... it however makes for a hell of a boat knife out in the ocean if you get it in the spydie edge... serrated it does a pretty decent job considering you can leave in it a livewell in salt water indefinitely and it will not corrod. I have a h1 fixed blade that is like 6-7 years old and it's been in the center console offshore boat it's entire life in exactly the conditions I just described. It's serrated and it works perfectly as a bait knife for cutting up fresh bonito and cudas to get a chum slick going. It dulling isn't an issue for it's purpose considering it's serrated and just chews thru soft fish flesh... there's been times where it's sat in a color with saltwater for months on end and there is not corrosion to speak off after all these years. I would never have H1/H2 in a fine edge knife nor as an edc knife steel but for the right purpose in serrated it's really impressive stuff just because it can literally fight off corrosion to a point to where it's basically totally immune to saltwater and acidity that a boat/bait knife will be exposed to all the time.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

I imagine a serrated edge without a finger/sharpening choil is a must-have for a diver.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

PS. Thanks for hanging out here on a Neeves live infomercial night.

[@BrandonMeyer1641]

@@CuttingBoardRxSal has mentioned that in spydercos testing h1 serrated blades have several orders of magnitude greater edge retention compared to their plain edge counterparts. He mentioned other steels do not experience the same uplift, if at all. The reason for h1 being a better performer when serrated is unknown. So if you’re going for h1, full serrations should be on your short list.

[@jdisdetermined]

@@CuttingBoardRx lol infomercial

[@Elmax17.5dps]

Great job as always

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Great to hear!

[@georgelewis9127]

Were the lanyard holes cut with a laser without any further finishing, and therefore, like the laser etching, somehow more susceptible to corrosion?

[@blockbuster6076]

Hello. Do you have SOG Terminus XR LTE? Interesting your opinion and measurements of hardness ...

[@MrBowser2012]

“Liberally”, but not with a social agenda. 😁

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Anyone laughing at my jokes is instantly my bff 😂

[@MKultrapdx]

Raghorn and flyaway next please!

[@CuttingBoardRx]

I don’t have the flyaway, I will consider Raghorn and some tactical fixed blades

[@Frizzlefry7]

BM just flat out doesn’t give two shits about their factory edges. 😂

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Disappointment aside, I think there are two production lines that consistently crank out decent blades, edges, QC - Hunt folders and Bali Songs. Everything else is sub-par to Spyderco or Kershaw or Boker or…

[@Daboulty95]

Awesome

[@imgadgetmanjim]

Subbed. Thank you.

[@SteinzVsKnives]

yep this is why ive been testing temu knives in my videos because some of these knife companies are robbing everyone and so far the cheap ass temu knives held up just as good as the real thing !

[@mjwolf9529]

🦖💕

[@21_Cabbage_]

insane

[@fredde90210]

🎖️

[@CuttingBoardRx]

🫡

[@sprinkleddonuts6094]

Stainless Steel is just that STAIN *LESS* Edit: not bashing your content, just saying that the steels are not Corrosion Proof.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Not bashing your industry-approved comment, but if they call a knife Salt, Water, Outdoor etc. I’m sure as day is bright gonna expose it to the elements and find out if there’s truth in advertising. If there was a Space or Moon series I’d have difficulties in designing an experiment though… but that’s a cool challenge, don’t you think?

[@sprinkleddonuts6094]

@@CuttingBoardRx no steel is Corrosion Proof, there are More Resistant steels than others though, which you shown in this video. Which show cases Stain *LESS* steels

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@sprinkleddonuts6094 Actually, you keep talking stubbornly about the blade steel and, in your confidence that you know more about mechanical systems engineering than I do, perhaps missing the whole point of this video: a system design has to be balanced for steel to even matter.

[@sprinkleddonuts6094]

@@CuttingBoardRx you are reading waaay to far into it and letting your ego take hold. Going off what you are were trying to imply in the video, and then i commented. Example: S30V, S35VN, S90V, S110V are stain *LESS* steels. They will not corrode if taken care of properly, they will stain less than say AUS10A. 20CV, 3V, 4V, M4 are not stain *LESS* They will rust and corrode if not taken care of properly, they will Patina if taken care of. Man i can go on forever. LC200N is have a spyderco that went into the ocean ( pacific ) and for 3 hours straight, for about 1 and a weeks everyday, Still held an edge and no rust or corrosion. Your tests is great i said that. Which i meant when i said i am not bashing your content, and then your ego takes hold.

[@sprinkleddonuts6094]

@@CuttingBoardRxhmm just replied, and wasn’t posted… seems you have blocked or reported me, for what exactly? Didn’t use profanity, nor did i say anything against your content… well bye then…

[@darinjenkins7954]

Why can't we get back to companies being honest..

[@CNYKnifeNut]

Longing to go back to a time that never actually existed is the backbone of America.

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

Benchmade is so disappointing, keeps raising prices to ridiculous levels, have not close to great designs,their QC,and heat treat on some steels is very sub par. I really want to love them because they have some great models but they have priced me out of the market honestly.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

You’re wrong! Heat treat sucks on ALL their steels, so do the edges and prices. Other than that, they are great!

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

@@CuttingBoardRxeven the Adamas? They claim 64 HRC on Cru-Wear which was a reason I wanna get one, and you seemed to love that model yourself. That magnacut was pathetic, even Chinese companies are hitting 61-62 on magnacut.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@BrandonGavin_EDC I love the knife but I resharpen any BM before I carry it. Even the Select Edge knives aren’t as sharp as Spyderco or Microtech or Pro-Tech or Kershaw or Boker or Vosteed or Reate or WE… pretty much BM edge is comparable with Ozark Trail, Gerbage, KaBar and 5.11. But I love the ergos and styling of the Adamas. Regarding hardness, they claim 63-65 and I haven’t caught them lying about the hardness. They just undershoot by design. Although they “forgot” to specify it for the new Water series. But that video is coming!

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

@@CuttingBoardRx thanks, at least you call it like you see it, great videos.

[@monkpato]

Time stamps, please!

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Time stamps promote intellectual laziness and reduce watch time. So, No

[@monkpato]

@@CuttingBoardRx they definitely result in lower watch time, but saying they promote intellectual laziness is silly. That's like saying the index or chapters of a book promote intellectual laziness. Knowing what you need to know and where to find it is one of the keys to intellectual development.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@monkpato Still, NO

[@johngibson4823]

Thanks!

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Oh, man! Thanks! Really means a lot to me!