What does the Bible say about homosexuality? Is the Bible being misinterpreted? -Podcast Episode 150

[@gotquestions]

REVISED VERSION - Due to feedback, we decided to remove the earlier version of this video and publish this revised version instead. While we stand by the content of what we said in the previous version, the intent of some of what we said was consistently being misunderstood. And, admittedly, we could have spoken with greater clarity in some of the things we were trying to communicate. As with the previous version, we are not qualifying, apologizing, excusing, or disclaiming God's Word. We are simply doing what it is necessary to hopefully prevent this video, and possibly our entire KZbin channel, from being banned from KZbin. This has happened to us twice in the past with our Android and iOS apps.

[@ClipSwitchFlashlights]

Well done guys. Take heart...Jesus has overcome the world. John 15:18-19 “If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you."

[@dansaber5853]

​@@ClipSwitchFlashlights you can be LGBT and Christian 👨‍❤️‍👨

[@SavvyArtz]

Out of curiosity, what specifically was edited? I watched the first version of this video the other day, but am not certain about what was changed in this new version.

[@ClipSwitchFlashlights]

@@dansaber5853 You sure about that? God says otherwise in 1 Cor 6:9-10. Certainly, one could have temptations or desires that way and be a Christian. But you must be putting those to death (Col. 3:5-6).

[@dansaber5853]

@@ClipSwitchFlashlights those scriptures are about your relationship with the ideal man

[@LoveGOD-LovePeople777]

As a Church We must stick to Biblical truth with love.

[@johnhewitt4725]

100% percent

[@inYTbio_SiteLINKs2Verses_Bruv]

100% percent. What isn't being done here.

[@Pureignition58]

Leviticus 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”

[@roym7346]

Proverbs 6:16-19 English Standard Version 16 There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: 17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, 19 a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.

[@Stribog1337]

To me it obviously means [in accordance to modern thought]: Don't be a feminist, neither a "masculinist" Putting pride in s.e.x., just like doing so for race, class, proffession, is just awful to me. You're giving yourself "proposed qualities of a group" and placing them above your personal qualities. "I'm proud of being a cop" [for example] "But what about the Floyd case? what about corruption? what about X or Y, or even Z? are you proud about those things too?" ---- Someone can say. To me, this whole question is about pride.

[@newcreationinchrist1423]

​@@Stribog1337 why are you using "modern thought" to interpret the Bible? That's not how it's supposed to be done, friend.

[@deanfry879]

@@newcreationinchrist1423 Strange, I do not remember any prohibition in the Scriptures for using modern terms to express ancient ideas.

[@Nonalhomophobie]

Reality 2023 : you shall lie with whomever you freaking please as long as there is consent. Homophobia is the abomination.

[@georgeyawopoku4639]

The Bible is clear on homosexuality, is a sin. Whether you believe or not Is irrelevant 💯. Just as any other sin.

[@shalondafielder89]

It's an abomination

[@joe7626]

@@shalondafielder89 What do you say about the Lord saying that eating shellfish is an abomination? And that a woman who wears pants is an abomination? (Deuteronomy 22:5 “A woman shall not wear anything that pertains to a man, nor shall a man put on a woman’s garment; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD your God.” (Sorry ladies.....every one of you who wear anything else than a dress, your an abomination)😱 Total insanity.🤡 An Abomination back then meant unclean. The word abomination appears in the Bible over 122 times. Only twice in the New Testament, neither in reference to homosexuality. It is purely hypocritical to ignore some passages yet love and embrace others. Jesus instructed us to abolish the old law and follow his 2 commandments. If you follow these 2 commandments , #1 to love God with all your heart and soul, and #2 to love one another as you love yourself, you will then fulfill all the other laws. He also said that he would leave us with the Holy Spirit to guide us. You cannot observe the law and walk in the Spirit simultaneously. A mature Christian cannot be led by the Spirit and follow the Law simultaneously. This is an example of “serving two masters,” which Christ said was impossible. In the Greek scriptures Paul urges us to walk in the Spirit, to be filled with the Spirit, to keep in step with the Spirit, and warn us against the bondage to the Law. We can’t live life in the Spirit if the Law has us in chains. Jesus demonstrates this many times in the Bible. He was chastised for healing the sick on the sabbath which was against the law. Love overrides the law.

[@WatchfulWolf]

@@joe7626 women’s pants are thing, sorry, and are not to dress as a man. Transgenderism better displays this. Things mentioned in Leviticus, such as dietary restrictions, strictly regard the Jews in the context of the story., while some believe the Lord made all foods clean later on. Things repeated later on and throughout the bible however is valid for Christians. Stop trying to defend that of which God calls an abomination

[@Nonalhomophobie]

It's not a sin.

[@Nonalhomophobie]

@@WatchfulWolf You do not decide how women can dress !

[@hanna762]

It is this simple: man + woman = life. man + man = 0. woman + woman = 0

[@ronrocheleau3035]

Simpel ? Guess its not that SIMPLE

[@hanna762]

@@ronrocheleau3035 clear, or manifest, or definite

[@LARRYCAL]

@@ronrocheleau3035 it’s good that you’ve reached perfection. Try to show mercy to those that haven’t quite reached perfection yet.

[@JesusisLOVEJohn-]

​@@hanna762 Its spelled simple not simpel.

[@hanna762]

@@JesusisLOVEJohn- spell-police?

[@Susan-hp2it]

I really appreciated this discussion. One discrepancy I found in your conversation was that God considers the act of homosexuality is not greater to any other sin. What scripture can you provide that supports this claim? I don’t see in any of the writings where the Jewish writers say this is the worst sin of all, rather they demonstrate God’s anger by His actions. (the Jewish writers, leave it up to God to determine the depth of each sin) God demonstrates His level of wrath towards child sacrifice and sexual immorality homosexuality by destroying cities. The scripture does not demonstrate the destruction of cities for the act of stealing,adulterous acts,or lying etc. The scripture does indicate that God’s wrath toward certain sins evoked certain destruction.

[@roym7346]

Do you think that Sodom and Gomorrah were more evil than Babylon? Rome? Athens? Alexandria? Also, Jerusalem AND the Temple were destroyed twice, what does that say about their level of sin compared to the other cities I mentioned.

[@misterx7171]

GOOD BREAKDOWN GIUYS!!

[@tampamabins2868]

You guys explained it fine the first time. It is man who distorts the Word with their own doctrines. Please dont think you all presented it wrong. You cant please everyone as this Word isnt FOR everyone.

[@gotquestions]

Thank you for the encouragement!

[@JesusisLOVEJohn-]

The Bible is definitely for everyone. Its necessary to acknowledge our sin and our salvation.

[@lepeflo8958]

​@@JesusisLOVEJohn-what about Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Atheists and etc?

[@JesusisLOVEJohn-]

@@lepeflo8958 What about them?

[@JesusisLOVEJohn-]

@@lepeflo8958 Everyone. Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Athiests, etc. All who come are not turned away. Occasionally churches might which is stupid, but as far as King Jesus himself goes He will not turn anyone away.

[@richsuga]

Great resource!

[@gwentomlinson4205]

As Christians, we have to speak the truth whether people listen or not because we are all going to stand before a Holy God and give an account of our lives.

[@momsspaghetti3095]

Great job.

[@desmonddsilva4393]

This is a very difficult topic to discuss and to come to terms with. As a gay Christian, I have struggled with it and prayed on it for decades. I have tried to pray the gay away and it hasn’t gone away. I have read the Bible from cover to cover and from my own relationship with the almighty here is what I have come to terms with. Does the Bible say homosexuality is wrong YES! Not going to deny it. However we have to remember that the Bible was written at a time when man was much closer to the fall in Eden than we are today. Laws were a lot different. In the 6K years since the fall we have fell further and further away from perfection. What I mean by that is we are plagued with all kinds of imperfections that we see amongst the human population. With that said the Bible is also clear on saying that anyone who comes to Christ will be forgiven. I honestly don’t think that two gay people who love Christ first will go to hell for having a healthy relationship. The key point being Christ first. We cannot change our sexuality and God knows what a struggle it is. He love us ALL. I hope this helps someone who has also struggled with this the way I have. God bless you all.

[@Nonalhomophobie]

"Does the Bible say homosexuality is wrong YES!" There is nothing wrong with it.

[@melodimathews4907]

Yes, God does forgive if you ask for forgiveness AND then you repent from the sin you ask for forgiveness from. So can't say your sorry and then show your not❤❤

[@newsoul8626]

I have a completely different perspective on this topic but I appreciate the info and I def learned more about the way y'all and other religious people feel about this topic and specifically where the passages are in the bible

[@NewCreationInChrist896]

Christians don’t be hypocritical keep the marriage bed holy and clean from perverted sex. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,” Hebrews 13:4 “Marriage should be honored by all and the marriage bed kept undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterers.” Galatians 5:19 “ Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness”

[@j.a.0088]

When I was growing up there were boys and girls . Now apparently is genda and there are dozens of them , and you can choose , depending on who you identifie as . Not to mention trans this and that and the other. Enemy is having a heyday .

[@LARRYCAL]

And it’s because this world believes there is no absolute truth. You can have your truth I can have mine and someone else can have another truth even if they don’t line up. There’s only 1 truth. God is truth and he created man and women and said they shall leave their mother and father and become 1 flesh. Man and women he created not 100’s of different stuff depending on one’s feelings for that day

[@kilombo6702]

Leviticus 20:13 13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

[@roym7346]

People like to use Romans 1:26-27 as an argument against homosexuality but in Romans 2:1 Paul condemns his readers for judging others saying that they do the same things. Was Paul writing to a group of homosexuals?

[@joe7626]

👍🏼👏👏👏

[@kenarnold34]

This is not a sensitive issue, it is not controversial, it is sin. The gospel is clear. God came down to pay the ransom for sin. You can be saved, but there must be repentance and there must be a turning from our sinful ways. We are a new creation, the old (sinful life) is gone (2 Corinthians 5:17).

[@Nonalhomophobie]

It is not a sin. Reality is clear. God does not exist.

[@kenarnold34]

@@Nonalhomophobie The fool has said in heart there is no God (Psalm 14:1).

[@Nonalhomophobie]

@@kenarnold34 The fanatic says there is a god without proof.

[@acmfirst5481]

Can you guys please discuss the case of an adult male who has sex with a male who has been cut up and redesigned to look like a female.

[@lepeflo8958]

That is a transgender

[@graciegjj]

😅

[@acmfirst5481]

@@lepeflo8958 That is the same gender with trimmings, just like a pruned orange tree is still an orange tree looking different from before. We do not need to call it a fancy name.

[@andrewjohnson4678]

Overall, I enjoyed what I was listening to. I appreciate the intentionality put into this video. It is my hope and prayer, that people will not turn off by listening the Gospel however, and whoever gives a word from the Lord. For now, because I still at the fence with the issue, I want to focus on the information you provided your viewers. The way in which Sodom and Gomorrah and ultimately the surrounding cities were destroyed cannot be adequately explained, without careful study, and now days people will take the world of their friends and their church. We must study for ourselves. There are places in the Bible that mention Sodom and Gomorrah is not clear what the intended meaning is, that is it does not come quickly to mind. When you have a more complete picture of the sins of the detestable cities, you will realize they are unique in nature. I have come to this conclusion, but Canaan and Egypt were spared from an immediate destruction. What these nations and cities had in common were sexuality immorality. To say the Bible mentions homosexuality has a unique sin which seems to be the tone that is taken is not true. The Bible does not make a distinction between adultery, and fornication, and I would stand by the fact that it is as equally detestable to the Lord as homosexuality. I also strongly believe that Moses nor the Israelites would not have known of a differing kind of attraction, considering it would carnal anyways. If you look at the Old Testament carefully you may interpret carnal desires as sexual in nature, or lust that is unrestrained, when and where you are first introduced to the term carnal. Where I am at with this journey has allowed me to have this conversation with others even though I may believe differently then they do, and am open to their views, but I will not argue at any point with them where reason and logic might be used. And as a reminder be careful not blaspheme or take God's name in vain bc nonbelievers are listening and we have closed the doors of Heaven to them permanently. We as Christian have also done abominations in His eyes, please remember this, be careful, and with leading from the Holy Spirit

[@LARRYCAL]

I agree homosexuality is the same as adultery and fornication and other sins. You can go to hell for any of them. The problem I have is other sins aren’t celebrated with pride and parades the world is trying to force everyone to agree adultery and other sins are good or that we are born that way. The world wants to take all responsibility for the sin of homosexuality off the sinner and blame God or their dna and then be proud of it and condemn anyone that’s says it’s wrong.

[@Nonalhomophobie]

@@LARRYCAL Homosexuality is to be compared to heterosexuality and nothing else. Hell does not exist and homosexuality is not worth any punishment, real or imaginary. Homosexuality is NOT a sin and there is nothing wrong with it.

[@LARRYCAL]

@@Nonalhomophobie wrong it’s a sin and hopefully you repent before it’s too late

[@KVBB-k2z]

This is not about love being love but about marriage and the holy sacrament of matrimony it is directly connected to love but it's not the definition of love too many people utter those words and confuse the meaning of love. AGAPE the biblical context of love is a Divine love it's a sacrificial love. It's not lustful. People often conflate sex with love it's very disingenuous we hear quite a bit of that but of course atheists often parrot the words God is love yes God is love but he sets the terms not us. another one we hear plenty of is inclusivity. The church absolutely should be inclusive. Christ spent time with tax collectors and prostitutes but it is they who went away changed not Christ . I would recommend you all watch Calvin Robinson.

[@LoveGOD-LovePeople777]

This matter is deeply spiritual. We must love all human beings as Christ do and hate sin, for flesh and blood is not the enemy. There are demonic entities pulling the strings behind the flesh and blood.

[@acmfirst5481]

There is an exception to the sins that can be forgiven. Matthew 12 verses 31-32

[@eroslascivious1327]

It's not Paul's job to understand sexual desires all he knows that it's not natural to God plan.

[@AllSven]

STOP QUALIFYING. State the Gospel and that’s it. Do you have statements that talk about rejecting all forms of haters against adulterers, thieves, drunkards, and murderers???

[@gotquestions]

We are not qualifying, apologizing, excusing, or disclaiming God's Word. We are simply doing what it is necessary to hopefully prevent this video, and possibly our entire KZbin channel, from being banned from KZbin. This has happened to us twice in the past with our Android and iOS apps.

[@deanfry879]

There are words one speaks when one knows one is about to die (Acts 7:51-53) and words one speak when one might yet live (Acts 25:10-11). Did Paul qualify the gospel by appealing to Ceasar? Do we qualify the gospel by making an appeal like an ambassador would?

[@joe7626]

How can you compare a murderer to two people that fall in love want to get married and take care of each other for the rest of their lives??

[@deanfry879]

@@joe7626 If people really do love each other, they will not use their own or another's body in a manner inconsistent with their creation. To deliberately choose to be inconsistent, or not care, is to effectively wish their Creator dead, or a number of other people, depending on how the commandment is stated. That is how love that is a lie/deception compares to murder.

[@joe7626]

@@deanfry879 According to you people only fall in love with people that you want to have sex with? So that is the sole purpose to be in a relationship is to have sex? I feel sorry for your partner. Most people form a relationship because they fall in love with someone’s soul and want to be with them every minute of the day taking care of them enjoying life with them. Sex if it happens at all is a very small small part of the relationship. Because you can’t find anything wrong with this relationship you try to take that tiny little speck and blow it out of proportion. We all see this. You’re really going to have to try to come up with something a lot bigger and better to convince people it is wrong

[@kilombo6702]

What the church doesn't teach about homosexuality. 1 Corinthians 6:17-20 Leviticus 18:22 Leviticus 20:13 Jude 1:7 Romans 1:26-28 Mark 10:6-9 1 Kings 15:12 2 Kings 23:7 Romans 1:32 Leviticus 18:22-24 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 1 Timothy 1:8-11 Hebrews 13:4 Romans 1:26-28 Jude 1:5-8 Mark 10:6-9 1 Corinthians 7:2 Mark 10:6-9 Jude 1:5-8 Romans 1:18-32 Matthew 19:4-6 NIV Genesis 18:20-21 NIV Ezekiel 16:49-50 NIV 1 Samuel 15:23 Colossians 3: 5 Galatians 5:16-25 Genesis 19:1-11 2 Kings 23:7 1 Kings 15:12 Judges 19 Judges 20 Revelation 9:21 Acts 15:29

[@gojohnnygo3209]

1 Cor6:11 - And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. So, are there homosexual in the churches that Apostle Paul taught?: why then are you people thinking that you are still under the schoolmaster?

[@Mojo4884]

This was pretty accurate; however, and it might be I just missed it I will have to watch this a time or two more. But while same sex attraction action is detestable and can be forgiven it is I think important to know that while not perfect anyone having this attraction and is delivered from it by calling on the Lord should/would be distancing themselves from it with extreme measures and struggling should they find themselves falling into it again. When they find themselves struggling, they would seek help from the church not to be confused with any church but rather like-minded believers in the Gospel. who assemble together for the purpose to worshiping God and for PRO: 27:17 sharpen each other, in wisdom and understanding ALSO SEE: Job 28:28

[@iambranden]

🤷🏻‍♂️Just leaving these here. No explanation or argument. Just raw biblical scripture🔑 🎉Matthew 24:38 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. ⭐️John 6:44-45 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. ⭐️John 12:32: And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. 🎉Matthew 5:27-28 “Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever LOOKETH on a WOMAN to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart”. 🔑In the latter days, he has said according to the Mormon church, “He that looketh on a woman to lust after her, or if any shall commit adultery in their hearts, they shall not have the Spirit, but shall deny the faith and shall fear” . ⭐️1 Corinthians chapter 7:7 I wish that all men were single, just as I am. Yet each man has received differently from God- one in this manner, and another in that. 28 … I am trying to spare you the extra problems that come with marriage.” 29 now let me say this, brothers, the time is short so from now on even those who have wives should be as though they have none ⭐️NLT husband should not let marriage be their major concern. ⭐️32 & 33 I want you to be without care the single man cares for things of the Lord how he may please the Lord. He who is married cares about things of the world how he may please his wife. ⭐️34 his interests are divided ⭐️35 Im saying this for your benefit . Not to restrict you. I want you to serve the Lord with as few distractions as possible ⭐️38 so the person who marries does well and the person who doesn't Marry does even better…, ⭐️Deuteronomy 23:1 No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord. 23:10 If any man among you becomes unclean because of a nocturnal emission, then he shall go outside the camp. He shall not come inside the camp, 23:11 but when evening comes, he shall bathe himself in water, and as the sun sets, he may come inside the camp. ⭐️Luke 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. 🎉Exodus 34:2 And be ready in the morning, and come up in the morning unto mount Sinai, and present thyself there to me in the top of the mount. 🎉Exodus 4:27 And the LORD said to Aaron, Go into the wilderness to meet Moses. And he went, and met him in the mount of God, and kissed him. ⭐️Luke 20:34-36 Jesus replied, “The people of this age marry and are given in marriage. But those who are considered worthy of taking part in the age to come and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage, and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God’s children, since they are children of the resurrection. 🤔Joshua 10:19-20 …Pursue your enemies, attack their rear guard…. When Joshua and the sons of Israel had finished striking them with a great blow until they were wiped out…Not a man moved his tongue against any of the people of Israel. 🤔 Exodus4:20 And Moses took his wife and his sons, and set them up on an ass, and he returned to the land of Egypt: and Moses took the rod of God in his hand. 🤔Exodus 17:9 … tomorrow I will stand on the top of the hill with the rod of god in my hand” 🤔Ezekiel 37:19 say to them, Thus says the Lord God: I am about to take the stick of Joseph (which is in the hand of Ephraim) and the tribes of Israel associated with it; and I will put the stick of Judah upon it, and make them one stick, in order that they may be one in my hand.

[@heinmolenaar6750]

Well done. You can read a book

[@1938UKTiger]

There were not even 10 innocent children in that city?

[@audiblek]

The argument about reinterpretation is kind of weak. The Bible was interpreted as pro-slavery until relatively recently, but now, people argue against that. Reasons I’ve heard for that include “slavery was common at the time, so people were biased”. If so, why couldn’t people in the past have been biased against homosexuality, and only now are people realizing the true meaning of the text as society becomes less biased? Another argument I heard on a KZbin video just today and my family used recently is that they knew it was wrong when they saw it for the first time, even as a child. If that’s true, then that shows that there is a clear bias against it that would skew people’s interpretations of the Bible.

[@deanfry879]

"Our struggle is not against flesh and blood" (Ephesians 6:12). The homosexuals are not the enemy, but victims/captives, just like we were before the salvation of Jesus Christ came into our lives. "For it is time for judgment to begin with the family of God" (I Peter 4:17). May the Lord execute a quick and severe judgment of the hatred within His own people to the point it causes many homosexuals to fear and repent. Romans 1: 24, 26, and 28, each have an interesting line, "God gave them over." Are the sins that follow also punishments for the sins that went before? We talk a lot about punishment for sin, but what if the sin is it's own punishment in this life?

[@Nonalhomophobie]

Homosexuals are NOT victims, except of homophobia, and it is not worth any punishment or penance.

[@TbspOfRice]

sin is not a punishment because God doesn’t cause sin you choose to rebel against God

[@TbspOfRice]

sinning deliberately will result in a lack of sensitivity to sin which leads to more sin

[@Nonalhomophobie]

@@TbspOfRice God does not exist.

[@Nonalhomophobie]

@@TbspOfRice Sin does not exist.

[@jenisebrooks4308]

What if a couple did life together but never engage in sex because they want to obey God?

[@Chicharrera.]

People get pleasure and satisfaction from their sins. They do not like to be reminded of it, for this causes them to feel shame, have to look within and make changes. And people don't want to make difficult changes. They don't like being told what to do, especially if that thing they're doing is enjoyable to them. Who are you to put shame on them, when you yourself sin. We know this last statement is true in one sense. But in another sense, we are charged by God to love one another and to love means to will the good of the other. It causes us distress to see a person harm themselves and by their action end up separated from God for eternity. We want the person to have God’s love and gift of eternal life.

[@Nonalhomophobie]

If someone finds something enjoyable and if it doesn't harm anyone, then it's none of your business and that person does not have to change.

[@jenisebrooks4308]

Is the sex that is the sin??

[@melodimathews4907]

Pedophilia wasn't a thing in Hebrew times. Joseph was 90yrs old and Mary was about 13yrs old when Jesus was born. Young boys were getting injured, etc. so from what i understand the Roman Catholics changed the Bible to 'male with male' so people would understand. And going back to how people say, "The Bible doesnt say that men cant be with men, it says man with boy because of Pedophilia". Of course the people that want to argue with me just choose to think the Bible is open to individuals perception of The Word. And i have to say, "Why would God give us the written knowledge of how he wamts us to live but in the end of it all says 'but oh well, yall just do what you want"

[@roym7346]

In 1 Timothy 1:9-10 Paul equates homosexuality with liars and perjurers. I think his main point is, "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God".

[@deanfry879]

1 Timothy 1:9 starts by saying the law was not made for the righteous, yet all the law has been laid on all. It seems to me we seriously underestimate how bad off we are without Jesus Christ and His death and resurrection. Romans 7 would indicate the moment we understand a law, we have broken it, since sin is that insidious to use the law in that way.

[@roym7346]

@@deanfry879 agree, that's why I don't understand the focus on homosexuality.

[@deanfry879]

@@roym7346 Some people still want to believe they are better than someone else; they get things so stirred up even the more sane feel a need to address the issue more specifically. Jesus was quite right in calling us an adulterous generation. The net still needs to be big enough to catch everyone and not just the homosexual, just like you believe. May the Lord raise up people who will weave such a net.

[@roym7346]

In Genesis 19 and Judges 19 you'll find stories of the town's men demanding to have sex with men visiting their town, in both stories the men are offered women as a substitute. Question, if you knew that a murderous gang of gay men were outside your door wanting to have sex with your male visitors, would you offer them a woman instead and expect them to be satisfied? That's like offering a murderous gang of vegetarians a hundred pounds of red meat. It doesn't make sense! Prison rape happens every day in male prisons, but it has nothing to do with being a homosexual, it's more about power, pecking order and oppression. Also, if you know of any scripture in the OT that condemns lesbians please share. It seems like out of the 613 laws in the OT God forgot to include one condemning woman on woman sex.

[@gotquestions]

Romans 1:26-27

[@roym7346]

@@gotquestions Yes, that's in the New Testament, anything in the Old Testament?

[@RandelHarris]

Yashua-Jesus never stated that homosexuality is a sin. Matthew 19,10-11, Eunichs are men who are not are attracted to females. Those Eunichs who are born from their Mother's womb.(gays) Those Eunichs who are crastrated by man. Those Eunichs who are spiritually Eunichs who are Eunichs for the Kingdom of Heavens sake. (monks)

[@chrisvaughn9091]

The bible also says the earth is 6000 years old and before you say it doesn't say that if you put Adam's geology up you can't deny the young earth but science has Clearly proved that wrong

[@kilombo6702]

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

[@heinmolenaar6750]

Christianity will pass. Homosexuality remains forever.

[@ronaldpoole3273]

It says homosexuality is wrong and you can’t be both homosexual and Christian

[@jasonklop476]

If God do not want me gay he shouldn't have made me gay

[@maryford8906]

Wrong you chose to give in to the flesh

[@Nonalhomophobie]

@@maryford8906 There is nothing wrong with giving into the flesh as long as everybody consents. It's none of your business.

[@johnplouffe3673]

I compliment you on your honesty in regards to homosexuality. And speaking the truth about homosexuality. Shalom to you and may YeHoVaH bless you in your ministry. I noticed you use the word pedophilia. I would rather use the other word pedosexual.

[@Nonalhomophobie]

The truth about homosexuality is that there is nothing wrong with it.

[@lifespanwellnessbeauty-60i64]

Pedosexual is not the correct term for a paraphilia. "Paraphilia describes persistent and recurrent sexual interests, urges, fantasies, or behaviors of marked intensity involving objects, activities, or even situations that are atypical in nature." The key word here is "atypical." To use the term pedosexual would imply a level of normalcy, as unfortunately the APA now deems homosexuality.

[@Nonalhomophobie]

@@lifespanwellnessbeauty-60i64 Why « unfortunately » ?

[@JharryYggtgytdfyfg-ep9pe]

AmEn

[@magdiel007]

Romans 1:17-32 is pretty clear this is from Gospel which you are saved by 1cor 15 1-4. It covers anyone that does these things gay or not. Do you live by faith to faith or these things in your own minds and hearts not changed by the Holy spirit and renewing of the mind and new heart. You cant have two gods, the big G or little g. Romans 1: 32 who knowing the judgment of God,that they which commit such things are worthy of death,not only do the same, but HAVE PLEASURE IN THEM THAT DO THEM. So where do you stand? In Christ, the second Adam made by God who is God in the flesh or Satan and still in the lies that he has told from the start. It all about becoming the new creation in Christ the new man/women that is Christ manifested and letting the Gospel change you by the word/logo by his Rhema in you. You are changed for God and his word, not remaining the same the old man/women in the old creation. Or you have missed by who and what you are saved and are not saved from sin and death. By the blood of Christ Romans 3:25 ,so you can stand before God and have fellowship with others and God. The very curtain has been torn so we can come and sit down and talk face to face with the lord by his Son. Hate the sin and not the person, but there must be change by the washing of the word of truth to becoming Christ in us the hope of Glory. The word of God doesnt Change to suit others or its made it a lie. Cause men/women are liars, God is truth and life he is the same now and forever and has put his name above all names powers and principalities and powers. The imaginations and ideas are wicked in mans heart, without God and the truth, we know this. The very reason God came to earth through by his son, was to remove us from the body of death which is the flesh and the lie, death in the flesh into life in the spirit to new life eternal life in God. His spirit couldn't find any place to rest, cause he could only rest on us would have to leave. Jesus destroyed the flesh by the cross and it's sin. So his spirit could rest in us and set us free by his promise being seal by the spirit into life while we walk being renewed in our minds from the past suffering and never leave or for sake us. He does that all to Christ by the cross by his power, we are powerless to change, So what is faith in? Romans 3:25 and his risen life. Who and what he has done that he is God in the flesh manifested to the world. Believing and surrendering to the King of all kings is the only way, Its all him and we did nothing to be able to receive that, He just chooses you He is God He can do what he likes. But at least by the word that never changes you can see its true. preserved word KJV it never changes :) not like all these other bibles, this is what brings confusion and confusion is by satan attacking his word by these other perversions.

[@terrydeland4641]

The Sodom stories, the passages from Leviticus, from Romans, Ist Corinthians, etc., all talk about male on make annal sex. But there are a host of other sexual acts not dealt with in the Bible: kissing, oral sex, holding hands, giving someone a hand job, and on and on. The proposed rape of the angels in the Sodom story was not so much about homosexuality as it was a power play but some of the men of the city to punish the men (angels) who entered the city secretly. Rape is a heinous crime, whether homosexual or heterosexual, and it demonstrates the wickedness of many of the citizens, not necessarily focusing on homosexual acts. Neither is the entire city homosexual. Lot's daughters are engaged to be married to local men! The city was surely composed of men, women, and children.

[@heinmolenaar6750]

Sodom and gommorah never really existed babe. All stories from the bible are myths. Nothing really happened. The bible is iron age mythology.

[@romycantero8139]

So in 1946 the word (((( homosexuality )))) WAS ADDED TO THE BIBLE. It was NOT addes by GOD HIMSELF, It was added by MEN HUMANITY. KJB is written by God he tells us, Who ever adds to the Bible ..... And who ever remove from the Bible , so on and forth will not be forgiven. I can only imagine what else has been added & removed from God's word.

[@heinmolenaar6750]

The bible is man made. Gods don"t write books.

[@kilombo6702]

Homosexuality is a greater sin than most because the bible equate it with Idolatry which is an abomination. Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; such a thing is an abomination. Colossians 3 5 Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is IDOLATRY. Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; such a thing is an abomination.

[@josephsgroi4474]

It is not a sin. To accept this you have to believe in the Bible (created by man). I am no longer a Christian thanks to this nonsense. Maybe you should review how the Bible has been mistranslated and purposefully changed by who was in power at the time in whatever era. I will trust language experts and real historians for my information on what the Bible says.

[@Godyeater]

Ugh. This makes my soul hurt. You really think that god about love would care about how humans love each other? Did he care enough to stop the holocaust, where hundreds of his *own* people were tortured by Germans? No, so why would he care about gay people? Exactly.

[@mariacalara7790]

Because God allowed us to have freedom ..or free will to do what we want. It doesn't mean what people do are right. People are sinners but it is stated in the Bible that the practice of homesexuality or sexual immorality are sins. He allows us to make our own decision but when the time comes when we are judged, then that is when we will know it is sin.

[@edwardhenderson7273]

way to much thought. God made them man and woman. They were joined as one in marriage. Anything sex outside the covenant marriage, meaning between man and woman is a sin.

[@heinmolenaar6750]

I don't care what the bible says

[@newcreationinchrist1423]

Amen GQ 🙂✝️🤲

[@godloveslgbt]

I appreciate your heart… loving and caring AND pointing to the truth of the Bible. Thank you!

[@eroslascivious1327]

God made you male and to be in the position of female is disposable because YOU are not what God has maked you to be (disobedience) sodomy offended God because you are not procreating to give God more followers. I believe that it's not your fault you are GAY, to engage in GAY activities is your fault. To control your body and mind and living how God wants is what he wants from us. I'm a gay man and I have been trying to get closer to God and I know that I have to control my desires to be in a relationship with God...in the end we must ask God to be in our ifes and ask God to help us understand his word and how we can apply it to our life in this timeline... Thank you Jesus for all that you do to help me to realize that I am human. Pepe Tucson Az

[@Nonalhomophobie]

Engaggin in gay activities is NOT a fault.

[@petkocholakov7829]

If homosexual acts are not more sinful than lying for example then why in the Old Testament there is greater punishment for it (capital punishment)? It’s obvious that people who engage in such acts are further away in their rejection of God, than other people. Just read Romans 1 and see our culture today. All sins are sins, but some are more disgusting than others.

[@roym7346]

God ordered death for the following sins and people. 1. Murder (Ex 21:12,14)(Lev 24:17,21)(Num 35:16-21,30-31) 2. Kidnapping (Ex 21:16)(Deut 24:7) 3. Child sacrifice (Lev 20:2) 4. Both the man and woman who commit adultery (Lev 20:10)(Deut 22:22-24) 5. Rape (Deut 22:25) 6. Daughter of a priest who became a prostitute (Lev 21:9) 7. An idolater (Ex 22:20)(Deut 17:2-5)(Num 25:1-5) 8. Breaking the Sabbath (Ex 31:14)(Ex 35:2)(Num 15:32-36) 9. A woman having sex before marriage (Deut 22:21-22) 10. Homosexuality (Lev 20:13) 11. A man and his father’s wife who have sex (Lev 20:11) 12. A man and daughter-in-law who have sex (Lev 20:12) 13. A man who marries a woman and her mother (all 3 must die) (Lev 20:14) 14. Bestiality (Sex with an animal) (Ex 22:19)(Lev 20:15-16) 15. A false prophet (Deut 13:5)(Deut 18:20) 16. A false witness (Deut 19:16-21) 17. A disobedient son (Deut 21:18-21) 18. A child who strikes his father or mother (Ex 21:15) 19. A child who curses his father or mother (Ex 21:17)(Lev 20:9) 20. Men who are fighting and hit a pregnant woman, causing her lose her baby (Ex 21:22-25) ***Note: A good verse to use against those who are pro-abortion 21. A man whose ox kills someone after previously goring other people (Ex 21:28-29) 22. A sorceress (Ex 22:18) 23. A medium or spiritist (Lev 20:27) 24. A brother, son, daughter, wife, or friend who entices you to go after other gods (Deut 13:6-11) 25. Everyone in any town that entices people to go after other gods (Deut 13:12-15) 26. A blasphemer (Lev 24:10-16,23) 27. Anyone who failed to abide by a decision of the court (Deut 17:8-12) 28. Any non-Levite who tried to set up or take down the Tabernacle (Num 1:51)

[@petkocholakov7829]

@@roym7346 Yes! And even in this list some sins are regarded as more awful than others. For example the sins of Sodom and Gomorah. Not that they were the most sinful people on Earth, but it seems that when you get to the level of their acts, it’s full depravity. Same situation in our days. There are transgender terrorists killing people in our days and even teaching people how to destroy their bodies and be something, which God has never intended them to be.

[@roym7346]

@@petkocholakov7829 if some sins on this list are regarded as more awful than others why do they all receive the same punishment? Also, if the story of Sodom and Gomorrah was about a gang of gay men demanding to sex with the visiting "men" why would Lot think that they would be satisfied with his daughters? Later in the story Lot's daughters get him drunk and have sex with him, what would the biblical punishment be for that? There's a similar story in Judges 19

[@deanfry879]

A lack of thanksgiving to God does not seem like much of a sin, yet it is the beginning of every other sin. Proverbs 29:1 may speak to your question. Some sins can only happen after others have already been done, so the punishment fits the number of rebukes, by person or by life, one has gotten.

[@F7dJa]

There are sins in accord with nature and sins contrary to nature. One is worse than the other

[@loversLorraine]

Show me man put homosexuality for me God would not interpret something like homosexuality like he said if man lay with man that's how God speak so who put homosexuality that is not how God thinks or Jesus steaks and like I said we always Target like that's the only son of the world and it is not in this a whole lot worse so why is that such a big thing when you go to church and you try to change your life around all you hear is the same say homosexuality nothing else to notice in for just got please answer my question thank you

[@johnhewitt4725]

Simple stick to biblical truth

[@heinmolenaar6750]

There's no biblical truth. The bible is man made. And falsified and mistranslated countless times. Gods don"t write books. All stories from the bible are myths. Nothing really happened. The bible is iron age mythology.

[@xelakram]

WALOBS!

[@mljcombrink8484]

It is a SIN dont matter HOW they candy coat it...!!!!!!!!

[@Valentina_Lat]

AMEN

[@Nonalhomophobie]

It is NOT a sin, no matter how many capitals you fanatics use.

[@KenJames9911]

It's an abomination. No interpretation is needed. You're on dangerous ground.

[@Nonalhomophobie]

It's no abomination.

[@maryford8906]

It is sin

[@Nonalhomophobie]

No it is not.

[@Nonalhomophobie]

@@waterearthfireair1300 Not an argument. There is nothing wrong with it. Arbitrarily calling things « haram » does not make something wrong until you rationally explain why.

[@waterearthfireair1300]

Hush🤫