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[@mikeearls8158]

Thanks for mentioning the City of Fresno story, the reporter was talking about a different race (1RC) which takes place indoors and combining the story with the 24th scale course. Either way, I hope the course can remain active and this coverage definitely helps get the word out.

[@brianellison3525]

Thanks for the news. The question? I'm definitely "a wait and see what the new company is" kind of guy. I'm old, and I've been into a lot of different hobbies through the years. My experience shows a change in the company almost always happens. Good, bad,? you never know, unless you already have history with both parties. Be well all, and have fun! 😊

[@longtalltexanrc3358]

Great episode. Businesses changing hands can definitely be a good thing especially if the new owner has the desire to make it better.

[@RobWalker-ti4cb]

Harley Designs is an amazingly high quality channel. So much information in every video. I am super impressed, and my love for RC is rejuvenated every time I watch. Thank you!!!!!

[@johnr8856]

I'm a member of the wait-n-see tribe on businesses changing ownership.

[@nikpinet2745]

ownership change can be a great thing, or it can be a terrible thing. . “Cough.. axial.. cough “

[@TyJoe_N_MattyMoe]

That seems to happen when you get to the horizon😂

[@Bonitacreekrc2]

At least the scx24s have oilfilled and cheaper now

[@goatchoker8]

The course is on the side of the building where cycle art racing is. The hobby shop has been in business for over 40 years.

[@briandurham314]

It’s cool to see reefs getting into some more diverse product lines. Excited to see how that develops with their new talent.

[@CCxRC]

Great show. Looking forward to seeing what Reefs RC is cooking up. That news story was crazy. Wondering if they do 1/18 oval based on his comments about nascar and the 1RC racing shirt he is wearing. Definitely curious.

[@mikeearls8158]

Yes, they also race 1RC but indoors, I think there was some confusion lol.

[@ryurc3033]

I think it was a combination of news people not knowing anything about different kinds of RC. In their mind rc=rc When we think rc we think crawlers,drag cars, bashers, ect.

[@caledoncrawlersrc2216]

So glad SNU is still active.. my favorite part of Tuesday morning!

[@Axial_Andrew]

Remember when Axial was a sister company of HPI..? Some of us still do...🧐

[@ka4172]

An Axial build Nitro Engines.

[@Jfitzroy1]

Axial Racing. I remember.

[@shuster1921]

Bitty Designs are unequaled in the body design department, I love their stuff!!

[@VermontScaleCustoms]

I'm with you on the Discovery. At $119, that's a bargain. Re: the gubmint kicking out 24 scale: that's the high price of the new anti-homeless/transient mindset. It doesn't hurt until it hurts YOU.

[@imthejaybird]

Always a little leery when I see businesses change hands. You never know what or how much is going to change. Is quality going to stay the same? Will availability be consistent? How’s the support going to be with the new ownership? All the questions…

[@RC.PowerHouse.207]

The 6S Mojave does not disappoint! Recommend picking one up!

[@andyb9994]

Thanks for the news update!!!! 💯👍👍

[@thomasbialzik3060]

Thanks again for another fine SNU.❤ The compsites industry is like a lake full of hungry fish, of all sizes. In my experience, every time a company has been bought, the next generation of products under the name has suffered in terms of quality. There is even a loss of product diversity.

[@austinperkins8141]

Those are the Darién Gap camel trucks those are badass hats off to FMS The defenders look awesome you're crazy

[@DasE30Cuz]

Great to hear from Pitbull and especially new 1.0s! I got their 1.0 Rockers and PBXs a few years ago and they are hands down the best small 1.0 tires I have.

[@troypostie1252]

I hold back. Keep my ears to the ground. Don't trust new ownership to much. Great show👍🤠👍

[@stratobungle]

I love my JEC Bomber links and trailing arms - frenched rod-ends, speed holes, stainless steel - very high quality. Sad to hear about the fire. Best wishes!

[@CasperRc81]

Um I just wanted to buy a CJ-7 and everything it seems is always for sale through horizon. Couple rc stores here in Az quit ordering from them because they are ghosted. So idk I just picked up the base camp k10 black for $100 off $379 OTD. It’s a good buy IMO will be looking into the dig box for it in a few weeks. Really like how clean and laid out the rig is the steering very quality feeling. I prefer the skinnier links less drag. I don’t care if business’s changes people most often don’t realize the business is really it’s investors and they dictate yes and no’s. Nothing really has seemed to change on the rig side. Traxxas, axial got better IMO stupid wood screws in the OG honcho, rc4wd, element being the newest at “the” level. You guys VP. All seems the same to me.

[@CornholioMcGeeRC]

Business changing hands? I’m more along the lines of waiting until the H10 comes out as a kit…. I had hope when I went to vanquish’s website because the header says H10 kits & RTRs and then only lists RTRs so that seems like there is hope….

[@KatastaFreese]

Sometimes it's good sometimes it's bad. I like to give them the benefit of the doubt, especially local business. Globally though FCA changed to Stellantis and now Ram and Jeep are circling the drain. As a Jeep owner this is concerning.

[@QuinnsRC]

I've admired the 6s Mojave for a while but have at Kraton and Limitless, which I bought back when I thought money grew on trees. Now, with the Grom I can have a trophy truck! Ordered. When a company changes hands, I'm always worried, but I don't put a ton of stake in any one place, so wait and hope for the best. Unless Horizon is the new owner, then I mourn.

[@RCFIEND24]

"1/24 side everything is different, nothing matters" hahaha so true !!!!!

[@jeffnewhart491]

We get kicked out of state parks in Ohio for rc crawlers. Have been for a long time! At least the dams around here don't care and have lots of rock.

[@kenkuczek610]

Thanks for making my Tuesday Harley. Love SNU.

[@SpeedyBrute3]

I've been challenged Trackhawk vs My Infraction...I smoked it literally 😊😊

[@BeardRubEnjoyer]

I'm getting that Mojave Grom, couldn't help myself. Love that look. Brother, if you're reading this, you're getting the Red one.

[@powcar91]

In Utah we have a crawler course,it is on a city park.

[@1sickgsx]

Depends on the vendor. Most of the time I won't order until well after the transition when others have taken the risk. Other times they're still very active in the community up until the sale. Rock titan did this. I went and bought every piece of ryft treal he had left and got a killer deal on mismatched components. Not sure if I want to paint them to match or throw on some of those rainbow injoras and name the rig "colorblind"

[@woodland_rc4712]

Scalar Fab news is a bummer. Their product is really good quality and I have it on many of my rigs. Hopefully the new owner will be just as good.

[@beng.6417]

Hey Josh, I hear Injora is hiring. Maybe you can go over there and start making genuine Chanquish parts for the VS4-10 😂

[@rabidbobcat1621]

Stuck on traffic on 435 when this popped up exactly what I needed

[@tomkrushlin]

When a business switches hands, I stay away for like six months to nine months to see if it’s worth buying their product

[@dennisreilley5272]

neutral. If the business grows and improves, great! If not, well... too bad I guess. I've seen it a hundred times in the bicycle industry. Big company buys small groovy company and restructures small company. Small company's groove goes away and the brand fails. Not a lot of lateral moves in the bike industry tho, so we'll see what happens

[@a-guy1912]

The FCX24M looks cool, but the MOJAVE GROM. I have never needed something so much.

[@opiesveiw266]

Thanks!

[@alotoflittle25]

It’s funny that we talked about pitbull tires in Colorado then all of a sudden here’s something kinda new!!

[@Jason1776-]

The algorithm heard you lol

[@mbarton98]

I think it is generally good since there are usually financial reasons why the business cannot continue as is. It also reminds you to reevaluate your dependence on that business.

[@vbspeed7571]

Thank you .. Yes the 24 scale .. They messed up on the news when i was explaining 1 rc .the lady that came out to record it and interview me was not the one who put the storyline together 😢By V&B Speed

[@tundrasr5709]

Have you tried to get them to do a correction?

[@powcar91]

Maybe they did it on purpose, my college professor went on tv. To explain the whole warming up your car in winter situation. They changed everything he said. So they made him look like a moron.

[@ronstoner1656]

Depends on the reason for sale and the buyer. If there intention is to strip the cash and assets then flip the business or build on the brand that the previous owner started. Unfortunately too many small business buyers have a mind set that everything the previous owner/management did was wrong. Our LHS just had the "owner" let everyone go and came in to run the business. This has had less than optimal results. I was asked what is going wrong? Told him you can't treat customers like you do and stay in business. He then asked if I was interested in buying the business.

[@JDSTACTICAL]

So the JEC backorders will get their product faster now

[@HOYFABCRAWLERS]

I LOVE YOUR SHOW!!!!

[@brandongeiger1684]

I just cross my fingers and hope for the best

[@stunod-RC]

That Proline “original” looks almost identical to the DJ Crawler new 70mm 1.3” Muddy Swamp mini tire. 😂

[@Boosted_Tractor]

Tires are modeled after a superatv warrior tire

[@woodcox0171]

Any scx6 Lambageanie panelwagon bodies in sapphire blue?

[@never-stock-rc2968]

The porsche body is for infraction or the felony?? Looks narrow in the back and on website it says infraction... bummed out

[@oyunome]

When a business changes hands, I’d be most comfortable with an internal take over or hand off, to someone who’s already been doing it. More confidence in continuous quality.

[@RCTogether]

Racing scx24s in the street. That’s a good one, I don’t buy it either. Great video as usual!

[@ryurc3033]

Wait, 90° of flex is back in? Why? Once it goes past a certain point, you just loose stability and get tires stuck in holes.

[@aegixxer1]

I'm from Fresno. The spot is next to a hobby shop and is in an industrial/commercial area that has almost zero traffic after business hours/on the weekend. The news is terrible about editing. I'm sure there was a conversation about crawling as well as other aspects like the NPRC and touring car racing that takes place around town and the news just butchered the edit. The city is calling it an "Attractive Nuisance". The area that the course is built in was previously dirt and rubble with the occasional homeless tent. Fresno harasses people doing stuff like this but looks the other way when a homeless encampment is producing literal mounds of garbage in open fields and next to railroads. Priorities... BTW Fresno is not the mosquito of the Valley, It's the armpit.

[@oyunome]

I too am fresno and this disappoints but doesn’t surprise me. I think the editing was atrocious as well. Why wouldn’t they have walked into cycle art? The news probably didn’t even know cycle art was a hobby shop. Typical journalism.

[@mikerainey3847]

New ownership.. I usually give them a shot if the previous owners let things go. They've got to have a clear vision going in, or they can sure tank a good business...

[@travistaylor8122]

Id really like to see you and Matt build metal cage bouncers and compete at one of the events

[@teaniner]

This answer is not directed to your question, but it is. I find it tough purchasing a existing business, too many people complain about some changes you make. My answer comes from watching and being apart of the Bicycle industry, when someone buys a bike shop. The new owner wants to make changes, ones that they may be right or not, but it is that persons shop now. Then customers make remarks about it not being the same. I have always said not to purchase a existing business if you want to have fun with all of your ideas. I am ok with someone buying a existing business, but I have to be ok with whatever changes.

[@JDuke-uw3fk]

Your intro nusic is similar to my favorite (non RC) KZbin channel, the why files! Are you a fan?

[@ashleyconnelley1856]

It sucks I don’t any kinda change lmao 🤣

[@forrestcrabbe]

Y'all have a badass day 🤘☕️🤘

[@hmisay4976]

I’m a Fresno native, this is the first I’ve heard of this crawling group. But our HobbyTown has a great little indoor course set up.

[@goatchoker8]

It’s the cycle art crawler course on the side of their building.

[@hmisay4976]

@@goatchoker8 Oh, that makes even less sense then. Cycle Art is super out of the way and in an area with no traffic. Did they ever have any issues when they hosted drag racing?

[@PorkinsTheWhite]

I think the problem is because the city views it as a structure (an accessory in this case) and it’s in an easement where you can’t build. So who ever told them they were ok didn’t know what they were saying. Which doesn’t surprise me given that building department. I’ve built in Fresno for years and they love springing things on you. Absolutely BS if you ask me.

[@goatchoker8]

There was an anonymous complaint that the course is causing an impedance to the flow of traffic. Then when the city came to investigate they deemed it an “attractive nuisance” meaning children would mistake it for something fun to play near or on and could be hurt by it.

[@PorkinsTheWhite]

@@goatchoker8 I’ve been in design and construction for over twenty years and this is the first time I have ever heard the term attractive nuisance.

[@brianbeck7468]

Businesses changing hands is okay with me. I always try to stay on the bright side of things.

[@BXTR_Werks_]

💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@brianmassey7563]

non-scale performance tire for crawlers? SORRCA better ban that one quick! It doesn't seem to go very well when a business changes hands, but that's just my limited exp. Another good SNU. Keep up the good work!

[@theoalbert897]

Long time watcher, wondering what is going on with vanquish, can't get an answer on Facebook and their site just tells me my email is invalid no matter what email is used.. recieved a set of machined gears with a tooth missing in the package..

[@njohnsonII]

RE ownership changes: I need to be in the optimistic camp because I have an outstanding order with JEC.

[@Steveoznowich-by7ds]

I have a warrantied part I’m still waiting on, from the first batch of f10t hangers he made, three out of four leaf spring mounts isn’t gonna cut it

[@andrewmangini9004]

Welcome to California. There battery powered figured they would love them.

[@BlindGuyRc]

Great news week. I really want to donthe buggy. But... not exactly able to for a few reasons. Oh well. As for the question. Inthink for me. I always habe a slight "what now" feeling. We all know things can go south. Look at hpi. Even after horizon buys up a company, the company kind of doesn't turn out anything special... atleast not often. But. It's not always a bad thing. If I had the ability. I'd totally buy one of the smaller companies, like the ones for sale now. But.... They would have to move to Canada.

[@DargoDog]

Not against the Slash, I have had more than my fair share... But that techo-puke paint job really needs to go!!!

[@codyoscardavid6268]

Man, I just sold 3 slash to a buddy in dalllas to make mud boss. I bet it’s blowing up in dfw to the point where traxxas can actually see it at home.

[@justinomarino]

Companies that are bought are usually worse off but not always. I am a wait and see type person.

[@pwrofgrayskull]

If I see the changing of hands, I do not purchase until I see how it all plays out.

[@Casitascrawlers]

The authorities have already targeted ebikes & drones & planes already have their rules so it’s only a matter of time RC cars bashers or crawlers get targeted this usually happens when something becomes more popular & more visible. Someone probably just wanted to complain people don’t like to see others having fun doing simple things you would think they would have bigger targets. But it’s not wise to have any events or courses on any city property & if Fresno was smart it would open its arms & team up to make a local dedicated RC area in a park or open space. Don’t hate appreciate. 👍

[@mikeearls8158]

Agreed!

[@onallfoursrc]

Are you rocking a new camera and/or lens? Or are my glasses clean for once? 🧐

[@ninthislandrc]

When it comes to businesses being sold/bought (and, this applies to ALL businesses, not just RC), it's one of those "six of one, and a half dozen of the other" situations. If it's a business that's doing well, you how that the new owner doesn't screw things up...doesn't "mess with the formula". On the other hand, if it's a business that's been known to have problems and/or 'problematic' (ie. poor quality) products, then to hope that they make changes to help improve the products, as well as public perception. Of course, this is all on the 'selling' side of things...but, what about the 'buying' side? Unfortunately, this is where things can get more complicated. If the buyer is known for purchasing other companies, and making them "better" (Amain would be a good example), then it's usually a safe bet that the business behind purchased will not only survive, but will (probably) become better. However, at the other end of the spectrum, there are companies known for purchasing other businesses, and making them worse (Horizon Hobby is, definitely, one company guilty of this), and this is when we, as consumers, NEED to worry. At the same time, there is also the "happy medium", when a larger company purchases a smaller company, so as to include it in their 'portfolio'...but, at the same time, allowing that business to continue operating independently (ie. a "hands off" approach), while simultaneously maintaining 'oversight'. With this last possibility, this can be a "good", or "bad", thing, depending on how things were with the purchased business before being purchased. This last option is something I am dealing with right now, and, honestly, so far, things are not good...they're not bad, but, definitely, NOT good. The company I work for (a charter bus company) is based in one state, but operates out of three different states. The 'home' location operates very efficiently, as it's run by people who've been in this industry for a great many years...but, the other two (one of which I'm at) is anything but efficient. Both of these other bases are managed by the same person (who's at my location), someone who was brought in from a taxi company. The second-in-charge is also from the same taxi company. Even worse, the just-hours dispatcher was also brought in from the same taxi company. Obviously, a taxi business, and charter bus business, are NOT the same, not do they function the same...but, these two managers are running it very similarly to how a taxi company runs, and drivers are NOT happy. Unfortunately, we can't complain to the CEO, because he's friends with the primary manager who's part of the problem...and, we can't complain to the new primary owner, because of the "hands off" way he's operating our side of the business (he wants us to follow the "chain of command", except that the "chain of command" IS the problem). This is how, when one company purchases another, it can (sooner or later) be "run into the ground". If you look at the various businesses that Apple, Microsoft, and meant others have purchased, how many of those 'brands' are still around? How many of those businesses did the "parent companies" build up into something better...and, how many of them got destroyed? Obviously, no RC company is as large (or financially well-off) as these tech behemoths...but, how purchases of smaller/other companies is handled...and, more importantly, 'what' they do with said companies...can "make" or "break" the purchased company. All I can say is, in regards to Pro-Line, I seriously hope Horizon Hobby doesn't ruin the great reputation the brand has, built from producing high-quality products, and providing very good customer service (this last point because, over the past 5-7 years, the quality of Horizon Hobby's CS has been getting worse & worse).

[@Gairbear-builds]

If they have what I need at a reasonable price, I still do business with them. I only boycott a business when they do me wrong. I've had issues with a major brand last two purchases from them. But they are the only company still offering kits. I know the vrd is great, but we need the phoenix roller to come back. I personally know about 300 people who would buy 1 today if they came back. Axial is a bully.

[@brokennib1]

You mean like when Axial and the others get bought up by corporations like Horizon Hobby, and are now steeped in corporate bullshit? Naw, don't notice a thing.

[@erichawkins6231]

I definitely am standoffish to company’s changing hands is seems it usally a 50 50 ither the company changes grows and does well or it just slowly falls apart and has underwhelming releases and slowly starts fading into the background I honestly feel like axial has lost they’re top place in the rc crawling scene they just haven’t had any killer releases Lately and vanquish has released amazing crawlers with all kinds of interchanging parts allready out to customize and vanquish is just leaps ahead innovative wise I believe staying a smaller company and working on passion projects has more than shown it’s the golden ticket

[@artblue9975]

Always hope the future is better, but it is always wise to be guarded. As an employee of a company that has been bought twice in the last few years, culture is usually what suffers and leads to lack of enthusiasm.

[@neilpeffers4348]

Big body bends remember I use to be dusty

[@Stewpkiddable]

this video will now spawn an scx24 street racing league. goodness what have you done.

[@jonthomas8487]

For acquisitions of smaller companies I like it when a smaller company buys another smaller company or even two companies that are like minded buy one another. What I’m not a fan of is a company like Horizon who buys a smaller company. To me everyone hates on companies like Traxxas and get all soppy lovey on supporting Horizon when honestly they are a massive conglomerate now. I’m glad they’ve kept Pro-Line intact and let them still produce items in the USA but their acquisition of other things haven’t gone so well

[@generaldecker9971]

Figure California would welcome electric cars. The irony.

[@SingleSpeedRC]

When a company changes hands I will be honest im looking at everything it does and any negative change I instantly am ready to say "see they ruined it!" Or "it isnt how it used to be" but thats just me being change averse...in everything.

[@AAronFpv]

The media twisting the story is how it starts.....

[@scalercadventures9717]

Let’s go!

[@RubyS.1]

When a business changes hands and it's not horizon hobby buying it I'm surprised

[@dilloncreel8461]

"Same Same, but Different"

[@steve_beatty]

re" Fresno RC...City deems them an "attractive nuisance" ..good ole cali guvmint..Lived here my whole life..love the State but abhor the guvmint. There's not an activity they can't simply legislate the fun out of..I'm currently dealing with and advocating mass non compliance with their efforts to control my toys I fly in parks and schools......I reckon that guvmint is the "Attractive nuisance" that needs removing/replacing ...

[@RC_DUDEZ]

i dont mind if a business changes hands as long as the person who is taking control tries to honor the legacy of the company. I would only have an opinion on the matter if it was a company i do alot of business with otherwise having an opinion is pretty pointless lol. seeing a company change countries thats a different story. I wholly support as many american companies as I can but as you know in rc, theres not alot to choose from in the US made area.

[@kennethwelty1190]

Just look at H,P.I. they are still here and make good R/Cs.

[@ka4172]

maybe someone from goverment watch what they realy doing with there RC crawler Cars! Those RC guys strengthents the community! Maybe they make a non profit event giving intrested guys a "self crawl" for 5 Dollar and spent the money for charity.

[@coltondavies27420]

Homeless drug camps are allowed. Tax paying citizens playing with toy cars absolutely not.

[@AchijElmer]

That's not really helpful, both rc enthusiast and unhoused people should be welcomed Let's not use this unfair treatment to dehumanize someone else, thats very unproductive.

[@Fly2kill1]

You should go there yourself instead of believing everything you are told from people that have agendas.

[@chrism5768]

@@AchijElmerjust keep that thinking in CA please.

[@FeralRC]

That's the most California thing I ever heard.

[@Marleysdad808]

@@AchijElmer Can you stop sending your homeless & drug addicts to Hawaii?

[@tonsoffun49]

0:30 FMS*

[@Toodles77]

What will I need in the way of a welder to build the jimmy buggy?

[@SingleSpeedRC]

I think some people are brazing these. Cheaper to get a map gas torch and rod in my opinion.

[@Toodles77]

Ima need to look more into it. I know there’s such a thing as a brazing tip also

[@SingleSpeedRC]

@@Toodles77 ya I keep trying to fight the urge to commit and buy the material and accept I will be building a metal toy car...then the H10 came out and I just clicked a button and poof a buggy showed up on my doorstep...

[@allmightygreat1892]

All i care about are parts . Enjoy big sale discounts. Dont care about the name of new owner.

[@colecurnew]

optimist

[@Andy_C_aka_Cliff_McCrawl]

Triple header sounds expensive 😂

[@jps3903]

Classic California.

[@joshuagregg7579]

I emailed Jay from JEC 3 times. Also commented on his facebook post. Zero response. 🤷🏼‍♂️