Government won't reveal cost of new Cook Strait ferry plan | 11 December 2024 | RNZ

[@brucehowe194]

How much money did it cost taxpayers for National Party to cancel the original ferries contract.

[@ronclark9724]

Hyundai may wave any termination fee if they win the new tender for the smaller ferries... Otherwise it would be impossible to win that tender... Business is business....

[@Arms26]

The look on Winstons face is "FFS how did i get roped into standing up here beside this dumb woman" lol

[@brucehowe194]

So National Party is buying canoes to replace current ferries 😅😂😂😂😂

[@ranamcneil74]

Na did you not listen a few months ago she's buying cortina's, bit of sillicon and we off

[@brucehowe194]

@ranamcneil74 😆😅🤣😂

[@ronclark9724]

If New Zealand bought two or three ferries similar to MV Manxman recently built by Hyundai for the ISOM Steam Packet they bought a few years ago for 78 million British pounds, New Zealand could save a lot of money... Two ferries should not cost up to 3 billion New Zealand dollars... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Manxman

[@NZNemesis]

She is so disingenuous. Admit you made a mistake & try to fix it. But no. Dig a deeper hole for the country before bailing overseas to your Atlas board of directors somewhere. All she has is corporate buzzwords & jibber jabber. No actual answers just hints to answers. What an utter waste of money & time.

[@jonathanjameshoskins6643]

What a joke 😂 - cancel and then appoint a new minister over 100k ffs. New Zealanders WAKE UP! Polls are show that more people are happy with this government. Come on!!!

[@GrantHodgsonWnNZ]

So they still don’t know what they are going to do, after having completely botched an existing plan

[@nicktaylor7680]

The new ferries will be bridging ferries that don't accept rail cars, a year later and they still don't know the cost but it going to going to be less. Yeah right. Sounding more like a Toyota for the price of a Ferrari. These 2 are both an embarrassment and an insult.

[@YouWouldnt]

Who is going to want to build ferries for us when we have a track record of cancelling contracts. Didn’t think of that did you Nicky No Boats

[@Go_Home_British_Raj]

Is ol Atlas Network Levy Cooking the Books on this one too?

[@AilsaPehi]

Won't or can't reveal cost? Track record of budget and forecast has been dealt the same can't reveal cost and strategy. They just don't know till she's f*d up again. Response to that is, "we inherited...." excuse again because PR team told her to keep hammering it.

[@jeff230394]

Cant

[@dwee3005]

Won't because they know it's going to cost more than labour building the ferries and the ports. This way they can just separate the costs between ports and boats and say look we completed the project for cheaper as we said we would, because we didn't pay for the port infrastructure and sold that off to the private sector which will make sure it makes it's money back within 5-10 years.. Just to keep a stupid campaign promise they are completely screwing over the NZ public Which isn't e

[@cameronjohns8639]

I Rex was far superior in the long term

[@rkctransportationvids]

She's not answering a simple question which is "will you be able to drive a complete freight train onto the ferries without taking the freight off the rail wagons and then reload onto rail at the other end".

[@dwee3005]

Because she knows the answer is no but doesn't want to be caught out

[@blazerk.7189]

2.9billion for landlords is money well spent...though!

[@dwee3005]

Exactly!

[@richie29215]

WTF even was this they should be on their knees begging hyundai to go ahead with I Rex

[@jeff230394]

Bro u get on ur knees now 😂

[@marknicol4957]

Talk about talking down to people. We are not children. You stuffed up .. admit it. Show some Accountability

[@brucehowe194]

And now we're going to be landed with another dog Nickynoboats 😅😂😂😂😂😂

[@blazerk.7189]

NZ's very own...Liz Truss.Hopeless.

[@latexbuster-o9z]

Really strange having a government minister talking to us as though we're primary school children.

[@RustyChilts]

You are still in nappies.

[@kayatd]

💯!! Who is teaching her public speaking!

[@rkctransportationvids]

It's going to be hard to find a shipbuilder that's going to build new ferries after the last fiasco. I reckon that the new ferry building contracts are going to have some strict terms and conditions.

[@raywheeler3135]

It will be cash upfront or no deal.

[@disasterpiece5972]

Claims she will deliver "best value for money" yet produces nothing to substantiate the claim. Repeats a new revised cost blowout figure of 4 Billion also substantiated by nothing. Hides behind the "commercial sensitivity" excuse to avoid hard questions, but didn't apply the same consideration before announcing the cancellation of the original project. 3.3 Billion for Wellington Transport is apparently an acceptable cost, but 3 Billion for the connection between the North and South Island wasn't. This announcement served as a continuation of announcements about announcements to come.

[@YouWouldnt]

What a joke of a government. How can you cancel a viable solution and have no clue at all how to fill the gaps

[@sjcnz48]

So glad I didn't vote for the Nats, I had a felling they were not going to be the way they are.

[@marnoster]

LOL.....They're gonna pin this on Winston

[@wetawatcher]

Talking down to the nation.Arrogant and performative.😎

[@adsdft585]

See how the Tasman local council is struggling to lower a speed limit due the three party government new transportation policy. As the policy does allow locally elected people to set their own speed limits like Labour's. Labour's policy may have needed minor changes, not wholesale changes. Opp! Another election speak ,Local. Knows best!

[@NickyNoGrowth]

The new company will be privatized with Kiwirail paying a fixed contract fee to the new operator.

[@coastsouljah]

I'm in Australia watching this and a grin just came across my face. I remember not long ago when the blues vowed never to work with WP. Both sides went pretty hard at each other. This is just funny. Its also scary to imagine that a government can change so quickly and in this way.

[@brucehowe194]

Winston Peters didn't have much to say 😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@user-mrwikohika]

Laughable indeed 🤣

[@vielebloom]

Nicky no boats

[@brucehowe194]

What do you mean by $4 billion Winston when NickyNoBoats said it was $3 billion where did the extra $1 billion come from you sound like Donald Trump always increasing the total 😅😂😂😂😂😂

[@brianna56ism]

This is going to cost billions and we will have to wait another 4/5 yrs. And it won’t be rail able. What a joke.😅

[@suenicol3030]

So she won't release all costs associated with the ferries, we don't want gold plated wharves just ones that don't rot or falling apart. Fob off costs, this government is failing the south island. Maybe nicola no boats should stick to her studies and leave finance to someone qualified.

[@sambo4441]

The supposed "gold plating" of these wharves was seismic strengthening...

[@malcolmWaite-g4t]

So, by her comments their first option was to be secondhand vessels, that wasn't viable now haven't actually got any costings but are making noise that it's still going to be cheaper, do they not realize inflation was global, so any contract signed years ago if signed now logically will cost more for a lesser product

[@geraldperyman6535]

Nicky sounds very defensive,the users will pay especially if they limit traffic because of their size.

[@NickyNoGrowth]

National the anti infrastructure party 🎉

[@stuchatterton6550]

Monumental arrogance from Minister Peters.

[@blazerk.7189]

No rail......trucking coys donations..rewarded.

[@numnum5]

can't believee you guys voted for such incompentance (Such bad liers).

[@Lazydaisy646]

The others are worse

[@numnum5]

@Lazydaisy646 were they really? There is nothing the people like about the current govt. Nothing but a embarrassing magic trick

[@alecneville7186]

Like it or not the new ports will still need to be built. It also seams to me a third ship will be needed within 5 years of the ne ships delivery. We see so many projects built and needing upgrading before compleation.

[@bazza3643]

If the replacement ferries are not rail roll on roll off, it’s going to delay the turnaround time of the ferries every time they load and unload the rail wagons.

[@richardmcartney2461]

Winston we are behind you. Sometimes it’s hard to agree with most of what government does with our money. However the ferry service is very important. Why do we not build the two new ferries here in New Zealand. We are not a notion of pussies. We have all the talent to do this? It would be great for job creation for the time period necessary. Make NZ great again!

[@dougjane64]

Winston standing there like Old Man Simpson. He has been paid off.

[@paulmarker5689]

NZ doesnt have the capability too build these ferries

[@richardmcartney2461]

@@paulmarker5689 that’s why it should be done. It explains the reason you suggested. That we don’t have the capabilities. The point here is we not only have incredible engineers fitters and turners but we have multimillionaires. Great things need great people to back us. Just see what Donald Trump will do to bring his country back from the brink of communism. Thank you for your reply I just think our country needs something this huge to bring us back from the brink. We have to be able to challenge not whimper. Thank you.

[@paulmarker5689]

@@richardmcartney2461 New Zealand is known throughout the world as a boat building nation. It would take years too put the infra structure into place too even consider building any thing over 20000 tonnes. Millionaires just want a quick buck

[@richardmcartney2461]

@ agreed. Believe it or not the infra structure natural resources could be a hindrances. The WILL is what makes physical objects manifest. This is not an argument for or against. You would be surprised what can transform negativity into positivity. Every difficulty thrown at you WILL be overcome. Just purchasing the vessels is off course what will happen because there is not a man in this country that has the will to achieve anything great. The days of men like Rutherford are no longer our to possess. We are a pack of dogs that just FOLLOW. It hurts when you see the great men living here but the WILL to achieve is no longer in our country. Let’s give billions to someone else because we must have it immediately. Thanks Paul one multimillionaire has a fleet of personal helicopters another builds old warplanes they get to enjoy those experiences until death comes. Nothing great about these blokes. Again thank you for your thoughtful reply. I understand your mind set and believe me what you think is important. Cheers

[@adsdft585]

Why exactly have they discussed every cabinet meeting about ferries each week? That is 52 meetings!

[@raywheeler3135]

It took 52 weeks to discuss teaching cursive writing and reducing Luxon's capital gains tax bill.

[@michaeloxlarge4345]

How about we call this 'addres to the nation regarding cook straight ferry'

[@adsdft585]

Why was this information declosed when PM was making his press statement earlier in the week?

[@brendanfennell3552]

It will take a team of 100 Naval Architects One Calendar Year to interpret the Clients brief for the New Ro-Ro Ferry and another team of around 250 Naval Architects another Calendar year to provide full CAD Drawings and building costs for the Engineers at the Shipyards and another 6 months to cut the steel plates and then another 2 years to actually construct the vessel

[@adsdft585]

Why is D Seymour in cabinet when made his statements about ferries this week? It indicates the PM is not ruling cabinet and allows cabinet to public speak against cabinet decisions may be!

[@kayatd]

I need to Google that, I missed it

[@barrypawly1594]

Does not make sense to get smaller boats that will reduce the amount of fright being moved across the straight each time boats sail, Smaller boats not much use in high seas which is now a regular part of life for the Cook Straight. As it is the boats currently are as small as you would want to go as the swells increase in size and it becomes unsafe to sail there will be more cancelations and loss of freight movements, Bigger ships able to sail in bigger sea swells with rail enabled makes sense simply because something from Auckland going to say Dunedin gets loaded in Auckland and unloaded in Dunedin which is more efficient that having to unload reload, unload reload if having to use trailers on cook straight ships, just is not logical to do this extra costs does not make sense, Just say you made a mistake and go ahead with the original deal with Korea! Willis you don't know it all so stop pretending you do! And really forming a state entity, wasn't there one before National decided to sell off our Railways just to see it become broken and unusable? Get Real!

[@adsdft585]

Is the three party government deferring the cost to the future? SO THE COST DOES APPEAR BEFORE THE NEXT ELECTION?

[@petersmith6508]

Do you know what happened to the Irex ferries?

[@howardhudson5054]

Perhaps we could hook up all the Greyhounds that have nothing to do now. NZ version of reindeer at Christmas.

[@michaeloxlarge4345]

What you talking about, they will now have the same.e lives as every other dog in nz 😂

[@adsdft585]

ACC Levi's up! The levy needs to cover costs, but it will increase the cost of living . Opp! Increase in complusory payments to government ( tax).

[@adsdft585]

ACT sorting out hospitality at hairdresses, which 40 year old regulation established by National.

[@RustyChilts]

Why should they.

[@ashchow8888]

I mean, nz needs houses from 2000.

[@TeMana-vy5qu]

Course they won't tel us we stil waiting on wen cost of livings cmn dwn 1st n nz lol

[@LanceHaenga]

WOKE

[@CurtisorMarySharedAccount]

“I have delivered” no figures no boats maybe rail maybe not.. but it’s going to be cheaper… I’ll hold my breath that this won’t turn into a sh@t show in the future or when delivered will be obsolete for the role by volume of freight needed to transit the strait Clowns 🤡

[@UtUba]

Duz tis mean We don't ave to "reveal" Our taxable incomes, afterall they cud well be "commercial confidential"!!

[@UtUba]

Duz tis mean We don't ave to "reveal" Our taxable incomes, afterall they cud well be "commercial confidential"!!