GPX tse300r initial review and detailed walk-around

[@dracer35]

I had a TSE 250r also. Unfortunately I didn't receive the same customer service as you. Maybe I needed to make KZbin videos about my GPX... On the first ride, the nut that holds the kick starter on and the c-clip that holds on the shift arm that comes out of the top of the clutch cover magically disappeared. Contacted GPX to order parts and paid a hefty shipping fee but not a big deal. Several weeks later no parts. Contacted Gary and he said he would take care of it. More time passed and the parts never arrived. Contacted them again, Got the apology and they said parts were on their way. Eventually got something in the mail but it was only the C-clip. The nut I paid for never came. (which isn't a standard size I could just pick up at a hardware store) Finally after almost a year of not having a kick starter on my bike I just special ordered a 5 pack of nuts online with the correct thread pitch and had to mill it down myself at work to match the thickness of the stock one. Also around halfway through my ownership of the bike I decided to order a spare oil injection pump because mine was leaking a little. Paid a little under $100 for the pump and shipping. A month went by and no pump. Talked to Gary again. Also mentioned I never received the kickstarter nut I paid for half a year ago along with the oil pump from a month ago. He of course said he would take care of it. Another month passes, no items. Contacted again to get the same dog and pony show. Waited another month, still nothing. Final time contacting them asking for the items I paid for or a refund of my money at least. Gary said he would take care of it personally. I thought that would do it. Well guess what. I never got the items I paid for and never got my money back. After that I just sold the bike and bought a new 2022 KTM 300 XC-W. To be clear, I did really like riding my GPX. Raced it in some enduro races and the bike was good enough for me. Unfortunately the customer service I received left a very bad taste in my mouth. Honestly id really like to ride this new 300 but I would find it hard to trust or give my money to this company again.

[@LCARSADV]

Man I'm sorry to hear that! Honestly I had good dealings with them before my KZbin channel, but I do get your point. It hasn't been my experience, that's all I can say about that, and from what I've seen it seems that way for most people. I'm wondering if there's a backstory or some weird situation, but yeah the ball could have been dropped. I'm glad you like your new bike and that's all that matters!

[@dracer35]

@@LCARSADV Yes it's unfortunate because I really did like the bike. It could have just been a series of unfortunate events but when Gary himself told me on multiple occasions that he would make it right and never did. It didn't instill a lot of trust in him or the company. Regardless of the company and how they treated me, I'm still sub'd to you channel because I like the content and am curious to see how you like the new bike. Going from my old TSE 250r to my new 300 XC-w was a big change but I'm having a blast riding it. Like you said, that's all that matters at the end of the day.

[@kennymichaeljoebananasc9400]

That's very contrary to what my experiences have been dealing with the GPX crew. Sorry it didn't go so easy for you!

[@dracer35]

@@kennymichaeljoebananasc9400 I appreciate it. Yeah, I didn't expect to be treated that way and I've heard good things from others. I just figured it was appropriate to share because things like this happen. I've just moved on and considered it a life lesson learned for myself.

[@tjcerva3352]

I have experienced fantastic support from Gary at GPX. I love my TSE 250 mine is a 2022 and I have not had any issues with the exception of a shift lever and clutch lever that I broke. Seeing as how it tumbled down a steep hill, Ii cannot blame that on GPX The Bike is phenomenal. I have desert raced my bike and I have finished all of my races without any breakdowns. Now I want to pass my 250 to my kids and get the TSE 300. Thanks LCars I think you just cost me 6G.

[@AlexSwan]

Faaaark didn’t even start the thing. Does it run? 😅

[@timothystark5986]

They are catching up for sure, looks like a KTM before TPI. I can't wait to see you ride it at Monkey Butt!

[@LCARSADV]

I can't wait for MB! Beaglebash first though!

[@joeykerkhoven9238]

I've had this engine on the Dyno and also tore it all the way down to see the internals after 30 or so hours. Great quality was brand new on the inside. I reckon you would be hard pressed to see any quality difference between this engine and the ktm. 😊

[@LCARSADV]

I’m hoping that’s the case! Really impressed with it so far.

[@lucasktm]

How much HP on this bike?

[@robertdelapaz1857]

Great video does the front fork have an air relief button on this 2023? Can you also please share the torque specs for the important components. Thank you in advance

[@LCARSADV]

Yes the new forks have bleeders. For any frame torque specs just download a ktm 2017 xcw 250/300 manual and use those torque specs as they apply.

[@unklb7161]

Awesome overview! Quick question, does the tse300r come with a spark arrestor? If not, do you know if GPX has an insert available?

[@LCARSADV]

Thanks! No it does not come with a spark arrester. I fitted an enduro engineering one for a ktm, I had to trim a 1/4” off the end of the pipe but it fits perfectly.

[@unklb7161]

@@LCARSADV thanks for the info 👍

[@crypto_paradoks]

in Ukraine this motorcycle is sold at the price of $4800, it is called Kovi 300 2t pro

[@LCARSADV]

They may look the same, but they are specd different

[@catmandan93]

Compared to your TSE250R, does this feel better or about the same economically? And from your impressions so far, is it worth the extra change for the 300cc versus the 250cc?

[@LCARSADV]

All the bikes are the same ergonomically including this one. The only change is the non linkage option. As far as the 300 being worth the extra charge? That depends on the type of riding you do. The 250 is not a high performance engine, it's just a great linear reliable engine, the 300 is a high performance engine and the maintenance that comes with that. Both great bikes, just depends on the riding you do!

[@catmandan93]

@@LCARSADV I tend to ride a lot of rocks because Pennsylvania. I've been using my 2018 WR250R as strictly a dirtbike since 2020. I'd love a good two-stroke trail bike again and I really have no need for a massively powerful bike because I don't race. I love the KDX200's because they aren't super powerful but they go through everything, and seeing how you handled the TSE250R, they seem to be a modern version of a KDX.

[@250ridr2]

​@@catmandan93where do you ride in pa ? I'm from PA converted my yz250 to a woods bike recently

[@catmandan93]

@@250ridr2 Nice. I'm legitimately three miles from Pocono Raceway. I have a FRO membership because that's about the only good riding spot within two hours of me

[@nathanstaggers8493]

Dude that looks like a super sweet ride .Now they just need to make a 125 150 or 200 cc 2 stroke

[@LCARSADV]

Tell me about it! They should make a 125!

[@桜島芽衣さくらじまめい]

They’ll probably steal the KTM 125/150 engine if they do.

[@nathanstaggers8493]

True

[@nathanstaggers8493]

I know right. I really wish they would make an entry level 2 stroke

[@nathanstaggers8493]

I know right. I really wish they would make an entry level 2 stroke

[@ryanwolfert8618]

What brand smart carb did you mention? I listen to it several times and never caught it.

[@LCARSADV]

I’m gonna try an Xtng gen 3 pro this time. I have one on order and will report back whether it’s any good or not. Just couldn’t bring myself to spend $700 for a smart carb this time

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

What will be the long range tech support and parts availability and resale value for these..??

[@LCARSADV]

Well I've sold 2 of these brand bike so far and did very well. Parts availbility is great, just a quick call to GPX and they have it to me in 2-3 days from Utah to NY. They stock most everything, the supply chain affects some parts sometimes I guess, but parts are easy to get with good support.

[@JC-iq5td]

What is the wet weight? And what’s the power output?

[@LCARSADV]

Not sure about the weight, but it’s light like a KTM and the power is the same as a KTM 300 XCW it it’s a fantastic bike

[@highcountry4068]

I want one, nice review

[@LCARSADV]

Thanks! More to come!

[@terrystrahl3275]

@ 7:15 minute mark - the wires going to the pick for the ODO wouldn't last one ride in the woods. Why is the connector resting on the outside of the fork guard ?

[@LCARSADV]

I hadn’t finished my cable routing yet, as I was still going over the bike.

[@coltonowens2742]

Id like to ride one. Was not at all a fan of the 2019 tse my brother owned for a short amount of time. Just didnt have that 2t hit my Yamaha 1252t has. That bike was supposed to be a pure trail bike though, and mine is an MX bike addapted for trails (which its freaking great for tight singletrack actually)

[@LCARSADV]

Surprised to here an Mx bike is setup well for the trails, usually the tall gearing makes it hard to ride and you have to be on the pipe a lot. If you’ve ridden a 300xcw you pretty much rode a tse300r with a few differences

[@coltonowens2742]

@@LCARSADV If ya ever get the chance, try one man, you'll be surprised. I'd let ya try mine, but your a long ways away lol.

[@roger2276]

What is the difference between a linkage version of this vs have the linkage? What is the linkage mean ??

[@LCARSADV]

The suspension acts differently. There is a science behind it and there are some great videos explaining it, which I can’t lol. From what I understand linkage is better for faster riding and non is better for slower technical riding and more ground clearance

[@roger2276]

@@LCARSADV Thanks for your help! I've always been looking at these bikes especially the 2 stroke 300cc model they just look and the quality for the price

[@jasongenet3346]

Is there a bigger gas tank option ?

[@LCARSADV]

I’m not sure? I would maybe do a search on the GPX Facebook group.

[@bigblock428]

I wish these bikes had oil injection, would be a lot more convenient on the trail. When you run out of gas, almost every side X side guy has a can of gas but hardly anyone has oil with them. Just seems like it should be at least an option to get oil injection. I realize that one can always carry a small container of oil with them but it would just be one less thing to think about. Have you heard any news about future bikes having that option available?

[@LCARSADV]

I thought the same thing, but honestly it's a minor inconvenience and also you know your engine is always getting oil at the proper ratio. It's something less to worry about mechanically. I usually carry tools with me, so a little oil bottle for 1 gas tank isn;t too bad. You could carry the amsoil saber oil and run that at it's 80:1 also. I don't think that option is coming though.

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

Carry a small bottle of oil with you. Simple...

[@kennymichaeljoebananasc9400]

@bigblock428 I deleted the oil injection on my early model tse250 to eliminate a potential point of failure. Also installed a larger tank(both mods made it into the later models). I keep a small bottle with oil just in case and have given it to riding partners when they ran low on fuel. With carb tuning, responsible throttle control and running a higher gear when on straights I see near 50 mpg

[@bigblock428]

@kennymichaeljoebananas C Yes, I am aware of all the options that can be done. We used to ride the old Yamaha enduros back in the 70's which had oil injection and never had a problem with that system so I know it can be made reliable. To me it's just one less thing to worry about. I have had other bikes that I mixed oil and gas and that's fine also. Just wish it could be an option for people that want it.

[@desertjas]

While I have like the TSE250r injection, and they say there weren't many problems with them ever, the last 2-3 yrs were back with premix. I love the convenience also, especially while I'm trying to keep 8 other bikes in the family running/ready to go when we ride. But I've also got a very mechanical friend that has had to rebuild their Husky, KTM and Beta Xtrainer...that all had oil injection.

[@Euryheli]

This looks identical to my KTM. I'm betting that parts interchange. Megsbraap has one too, she is liking it, apparently it's not as tall or stiff as a KTM.

[@LCARSADV]

Yeah she loves it I guess. I don't know why she says the seat is lower, it doesn't seem that way. Seems normal

[@WTSKCRACOVIAPANY]

This bike is 1:1 like thumpstar tsn300, can you register this to ride on the road?

[@LCARSADV]

They may look similar, but they are spec'd different and company support and community are way different. GPX has a hardcore community and great parts and support. All my GPX bikes were plated in NY

[@WTSKCRACOVIAPANY]

@@LCARSADV nah the engine is just the same, everything comes from the same factory, even ktm oem parts come from china so yeah

[@LCARSADV]

@@WTSKCRACOVIAPANY I’m not talking about the engine

[@williamgriffin5818]

What's the difference between the 300r in the 300 l

[@LCARSADV]

One direct pds and the L is linkage like husqvarna

[@wrenchone5003]

So are the forks air forks or spring ? I didn't see the air valve ?

[@LCARSADV]

Spring. The bleeder is there, probably was hidden by the preload adjuster.

[@wrenchone5003]

@@LCARSADV well that's cool it doesn't have air forks

[@nicholasrobinson-g6f]

I just got a 300 tse and got a 38mm pwk and live like at 1000ft above sea level what should i jet the carb at thanks.

[@LCARSADV]

I don’t use that carb, honestly I would consider an even a knock off Keihin 36mm short body Stryker. 38 is too big for trail riding.

[@Rieju-Sherco]

Very nice seat!!!!

[@LCARSADV]

Indeed! Not that I'm gonna sit on it too much lol, but when i do it will be great!

[@h4rv4rd74]

Maybe it's just me, but why does the gas line clamp coming from the gas tank petcock look like it's in the wrong place ? The line looks like it is pinched .

[@LCARSADV]

I probably cut too much off or something

[@gpxmotousa4416]

I would turn the foot peg pin around so if you lose the cotter pin you will be less likely to lose the footpeg pin.

[@lolas_bolas3566]

Do you gonna do top speed on it one day? lol man I really want to see it gooo fast haha.

[@LCARSADV]

Yeah we'll do all that for sure! Gonna be a bit though cause it's still winter here

[@lolas_bolas3566]

@@LCARSADV awsome, got it

[@dalepellerin]

Curious why you have an hour meter on it when it measures hours on the dash? Is it just a secondary hour meter?

[@LCARSADV]

The dash just keeps track of mileage and trips

[@dalepellerin]

Interesting, my dash displays hours on my TSE300R

[@LCARSADV]

@@dalepellerin you make me want to double check mine now lol. Mine came with an hour meter though, I didn’t install it

[@dalepellerin]

@@LCARSADV When you hit the mode button on the dash, I think three times, in the lower right will display a number and that is the hours. Nothing designates it as hours but it is. I’ve been watching it each of my first 4 rides (just purchased last month) and it is aligning with the number of hours I’ve ridden.

[@dalepellerin]

I would go test it out, but the bike is at my buddy’s house getting prepped for Moab.

[@richardweaver6190]

Is there any contact info for the OEM, or the importer/distributor here in the U.S.A.?

[@LCARSADV]

GPXmoto.com or just give them a call!

[@TraveladvRajanSRai]

Badass bike I may get. Cheaper then kayo. Big motor

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

A Keihin 36mm carb makes a 300 run pretty darn good. 40 mm not the right choice.

[@LCARSADV]

I would agree, the Britts already changed over to Keihin, and GPX USA is probably doing the same due to feedback.

[@cc3775]

You’re going to make me regret getting the 300 4t

[@LCARSADV]

Nah, different animal. The 4t is a great bike as well. Less maintenance and longer lasting. Don't forget this 300r 2t is a high performance engine which sets it apart from the others. That 4t won't let you down!

[@cc3775]

@@LCARSADV I’m curios to the power compared to say a beta or ktm 300. I rode a buddy’s beta 300 and I could not see myself riding that in the trails. I was not comfortable on it at all. Felt like I could easily get carried away.

[@desertjas]

@@cc3775My first weekend out on it I had a friend that has Beta, Husky and KTM 300s. Before we had the suspension set up like LCars does now, he was amazed at all that the bike had out of the crate. He didn't push or test to give big comparison, but his main comment was that it would be a significant competitor with Beta for the lower cost 2 stroke option.

[@corner_films7035]

Late comment but where do you go to buy one

[@LCARSADV]

GPX dealer or order from GPX website. I’ve ordered all mine from GPX directly, but their website has dealer locations

[@ryanhoffman1439]

What year/ revision is your bike?

[@LCARSADV]

It literally just came out, so 23

[@RobboRobinson]

Thanks for the update LCARS 👍🏻

[@LCARSADV]

No problem! Looking forward to yours as well

[@wadzilla3711]

Any American dealerships? Web site doesn't show.

[@LCARSADV]

Go to GPXmoto.com and click dealer locator. There a bunch across the country. I bought all mine straight from GPX

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

Check the fuel vent tube to end to see if there is a check valve. I've seen several of these Chinese pieces without a check valve.

[@LCARSADV]

They have a check valve

[@jkmarshall3553]

Any idea what the 300 2 stroke HP is?

[@LCARSADV]

I think it’s 51

[@jkmarshall3553]

Nice! @@LCARSADV

[@x_rom4k_x]

29 whp, but power curve is not great because of the fixed ign timing. Ktm cdi makes an imrovement of curve and add 5 whp on top. (38 mikuni replica 25/450, stock neddle second clip)

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

Enter this bike in a hard or extreme enduro and let's find out what it's really made from.

[@LCARSADV]

The guys in the UK already have, as they have been racing them for a while now. These bikes are solid. The 300 may be new so it's got some proving to do, but the rest of the GPX line up has already been vetted and they stand up to the abuse and are rock solid reliable.

[@desertjas]

Megsbraap just finished first in Pro Women class at the Page, Az Hard Enduro...after she has routinely put it through rough rocky terrain. I'm sure some will be harder on them, but she's not going easy on it.

[@scottporter0069]

Can't wait till you fire it up...

[@LCARSADV]

Already have, just doing some carb tuning now

[@muhamadtahurrohmanassidiq1873]

how much horsepower ?

[@LCARSADV]

I think it's 50

[@mempro9087]

How much hp have this bike?

[@LCARSADV]

50 ish I believe

[@DymaTiizeD]

"There are no cheap parts" lol good one. This bike will fall apart after three harescrambles

[@LCARSADV]

Have you ridden one? Nope I bet you haven't even seen one. If you watch any of my videos over the past 3 years I have beaten the crap out of these bikes. But you make an ignorant comment like that with no experience.

[@DymaTiizeD]

@@LCARSADV I found your channel when I was going to purchase one awhile back lol you’ve been defending them over and over. I was even in the Facebook group where people would post videos of their bikes literally fucked after one ride or bent rims etc and watching you die on the GPX hill to the point where I feel like you’re more than just a “spokesperson” for them 😂 these bikes are trash

[@VDUBT5174]

And be worth about £3.50

[@TraveladvRajanSRai]

Ca legal? Kayo is

[@LCARSADV]

I don’t live in CA so I don’t know, but yes for NY

[@KlarenzX]

Give me one for vlogging😂

[@LCARSADV]

I don't even know what that means...

[@anthonyfederico2202]

No body mentions the triple clamps are x trig looking too

[@cranedaddy678]

I'll be buying a used Japanese or European bike over one of these for the new prices GPX is asking.

[@LCARSADV]

Why? Then you wouldn't have as good of a bike? Gpx charges appropriate prices for the product they make just like anyone else would. You want cheap pricing, you gotta get a cheap junk bike.

[@DeadRoman]

@@LCARSADVyou would literally have the real thing, and not a knockoff if you bought a used ktm.

[@LCARSADV]

@@DeadRoman but I have a great bike that's brand new and costs less money and not used and abused old KTM? I fail to see the logic here. Just do what makes you happy and ride.

[@DeadRoman]

@@LCARSADV its a knockoff of an older model KTM. You can get the real thing used, several years newer, for less money than the gpx is new. I would rather buy a 2020 ktm300xc for 5k and do a little maintenance and have better equipment, than spend more money, for an out dated clone.

[@LCARSADV]

@@DeadRoman Nah I like my bike just fine! Pssss your KTM has chinese parts on it and they are owned by an indian company.

[@nathanstaggers8493]

Cause if they did I’d get one

[@MF-jd4qh]

It's just an older KTM.

[@jonwoodworker]

The bike looks great. But sending your money to a Country that wants you to die, is not a good thing. Another good video though.

[@LCARSADV]

I do understand your point, but we all have crap made in China in our homes and whatever bike or car we have has parts made in China. I wish it wasn't so, but it is. I like gpx because they make new dirt bikes affordable again. A lot of people just can't afford 11k or more for a dirt bike. I'm happy with whatever gets more people on 2 wheels. We have to save this sport and get more people doing it. Thanks for the compliment!

[@dalepellerin]

Most of KTMs parts are made in China now. The KTM Adventure Bikes are made in the same factory as GPX. Yamaha and Honda use parts from China. The China argument is no longer an argument as all bikes are now mostly made from parts in China. So, might as well support a small American owned business from Linden Utah (where the profits go).

[@dahatchery]

You get what you pay for. I’m not looking at anything from China. I love my YZs best rated overall dirt bike plus years of parts accessibility. The aftermarket is also huge! A friend of mine had one a couple years ago, he was so glad to get rid of it. He loves his 2003 YZ250.

[@LCARSADV]

A yz250 is not even an enduro bike dude. Totally different bikes. Do you have any idea what you’re talking about? Glad you like your yz though!

[@dahatchery]

@@LCARSADV after building these bikes for years, it’s clear you don’t know that a YZ is a great enduro bike. You could even buy a YZ250X which is a great bike for hare and hounds. It’s like you really don’t have a clue. Chinese bikes are crap!!

[@LCARSADV]

@@dahatchery you’ve obviously never even ridden one.

[@dahatchery]

@@LCARSADV I don’t need to ride one, I know they won’t last, look face it, it’s from China. You haven’t a clue about anything YZ. You couldn’t even do a ride demo, lol! All kinds of bells and whistles, right?! Give me a break! Chinese 💩, with all that stuff on it, it weighs a ton. The metallurgy will also be in question. What I say is true, because of years of experience. It’s not just me, there are many.

[@dahatchery]

You don’t have to even know that this company bassed their engine off of a 90-92 YAMAHA WR200. lol!

[@cHaotix210]

I think this thing is 1:1 clone with ktm

[@LCARSADV]

Close, but no. For instance, the silencer is different. There is other frame differences as well

[@CheradenineZakalwe]

ktm copy. Seems like huge payed campaign by biased reviewers recently

[@LCARSADV]

If I got paid that would sure be nice! Come back after you’ve actually ridden one and then give your opinion. You mock “biased” opinions by people who have actually ridden them but you yourself have not yet your opinion is valid?

[@CheradenineZakalwe]

@@LCARSADV i see direct design copycat from other brands without any license. This is clear fact. Listen your own review, everything so gooood - just look at it, its clearly stolen designs with subpar quality. Have some dignity

[@larrynorsworthy8582]

Chinese?

[@LCARSADV]

Yep!

[@redball4093]

Stolen valor

[@jasongenet3346]

I thought this was an American bike built in Utah that is the #1 reason I'm thinking of getting is it to good to be true

[@DeanHickman-g3s]

Its a flippen copy, no innovation on anyonrs part except ktm

[@LCARSADV]

Then buy a ktm. I’m happy.

[@TraveladvRajanSRai]

Badass bike 3002 s nm left. Tm rieju12k