GR Corolla vs. WRX: Buying both and putting them head to head!

[@pimpustthugni]

The vb is definitely slept on. Just an Intake and tune will put you over 300whp.

[@Mongooooooo]

the biggest issue I have with it though, is the fact that it doesn't have any LSDs as a "rally heritage" car... but I agree its definitely slept on. msrp vs msrp the GRC would be my choice, but used the wrx is roughly 15k cheaper for the same year out here in LA....which also is a bit alarming since it clearly isn't going to hold any value, but if driven into the ground it's an awesome value with a proven motor(not so much the brz fa24 though). edit: also the e-brake on the GRC is a rear disconnect... imo its very obvious subaru has forgotten what a rally car is with the wrx, only saving grace being the fa24 really, although it's paired with a transmission that can't handle any torque. If you spent the money to sti swap the trans and added lsds to front and rear, the wrx is actually very expensive vs the grc if you plan on doing some dirt driving.

[@zombielivesmatter7294]

but that's the problem, vb owners buy it and do mods and tune for more HP for drag racing, but there are other cars for the same price that drag race WAY better than the vb, like the Mustang GT that's the same price but has 440hp stock and small tune is over 500hp. people use to like buying Subarus because they handled amazing for track and rally since they had STI option that has front limited-slip diff, center DCCD diff, rear limited-slip diff. The new vb only uses Forester and Crosstrek SUV front open diff and rear open diff, that explains why vb owners only care about and drag racing.

[@sleepyloyalfps]

@@Mongooooooo brother, it has a LSD.

[@Mongooooooo]

@@sleepyloyalfps has what they call an "e-lsd" which just means it uses the brakes to try and stop slip. Aka, if you're off-road, you'll just fry your brakes. Sure, it tries to do the same thing as an mechanical lsd, but it's like arguing than an rear lsd in a truck is the same as having lockers

[@zombielivesmatter7294]

@@sleepyloyalfps HAHAHA, typically VB owner is like you some young kid that doesn't know mechanicals. Even Subaru engineers themselves in spec sheet say it's open diff with NO LSD straight from, Forester SUV, and if you're not sure GOOGLE it. Oh wait, you're going to pretend BRAKEPAD torque vectoring is LSD? Even Subaru themselves will never call BRAKEPAD torque vectoring a real LSD, so don't be a young kid and pretend it has it. You VB owners remind me of the Sentra owners that pretend their car is the same as my GTR just because they're both made by Nissan. You Sentra and VB owners are hilarious, there's a reason Sentra and VB are cheapest cars you can buy at $30k, stay at the bottom.

[@leviathan_vicars]

Can’t believe nobody’s said this yet but congrats on the wedding!!! Super happy for you

[@CameronAlford]

Thanks dude means a lot!! Appreciate you

[@FromPlsNerf]

I love my VB....Traded my 2017 STI at 90,000 miles for it when the headgasket was just starting to go. It's such a great daily driver. I'm always happy to get in and go for a drive. Love the interior. I put some paint matched fenders on, wheels, paint matched grill, etc. Great car.

[@Caseypalka]

Picked up my wrx tr a few weeks ago and absolutely love it so far. Excited to see what you do to yours

[@thomas.russell]

stoked for this series

[@CameronAlford]

Thanks for being here!

[@travisbekkedahl]

Yo this is sick af, all i got is 20 bucks tho. Cant wait for this series!

[@travisbekkedahl]

Also i lowkey got sad when you cut to the first drive segment of the wrx. I sold my 22 a few months ago😢

[@CameronAlford]

Travis thanks a ton! You dont have to send this but its so appreciated. Have a great week! God bless

[@josebelisario9669]

Looking forward to the series. Own a VB and it's absolutely great. I live in Tucson and some roads are garbage but the ride in the Subie helps. If the ride is stiffer in the GR, it wouldn't be as pleasant as a daily. That said, given the significant price gap, one would hope the Corolla is better. For me, better meant what I can afford and actually find in showrooms, not wait for months and a more spacious backseat. Thank you gents for the content.

[@jonsauce]

Long time viewer here Cam. Your focus ST videos actually led me to buy one! I couldn’t agree more about your take on the GR Corolla. People are so worried about it catching on fire. Yes it has its flaws. It’s not perfect. Still a great car. That being said. I was in the market for a GR Corolla and ended up buying a 24 limited WRX last night. So this video was sweet to watch after purchasing. GRC is cool but I’m in love with the WRX. I still have my BRZ if I want to be hotboy/boy racer. WRX feels like the perfect daily.

[@InksJC]

Stock: Corolla. Modified: WRX The Corolla engine is pretty maxed out while the WRXs is conservative stock, having more potential with minimal mods. For handling, the WRX can be STI transmission swapped with lsd and dcc competing with the GRs control. Also the WRX is gonna have a ton more parts as the platform is very popular to Motorsport companies

[@alwaysiyi272]

The GR Corolla's engine can push out a lot more power than you think, there are some Australian guys on youtube who have managed to push over 600hp from the GR Yaris with stock internals

[@Vmining]

@@alwaysiyi272 OK, but for the price difference the WRX is a lot cheaper to get to 600hp if that's your goal.

[@InksJC]

Doesn’t matter how much power can be used as the 3cyl engine is already boosted a lot stock the internals aren’t going to last

[@diallo1347]

​@@alwaysiyi272 for how long? Most people are buying these to be their daily

[@Teromi]

with the WRX you'll have $ left for the mods ..

[@Mpompi315.]

The vb is a great platform. I’m running the jb4 for the last 15,000 miles and doesn’t skip a beat

[@trickmustang1994]

My GR Corolla didn't catch on fire but the motor did throw a rod. After a new motor replacement i traded it in on a new Honda Type R. I like the Type R but i do miss the little GR.

[@brodiwheeler7583]

Toyota cover you? Did they say what might have caused the pre-ignition?

[@gianmarcoaguilar183]

Cant wait for this series. I've had my grc for over a year and a half and am still enjoying it. It took a while to like, but well worth it. FBO tuned, tracked regularly, and it does everything well. Closing in on 50k miles too.

[@kengit2]

50k? Wow!

[@hachiroku12]

Any issues with the diffs overheating on track days?

[@justinczternastek5346]

I’ve driven both and feel like the GR Corolla feels more special to drive.

[@zombielivesmatter7294]

it's because Subaru discontinued the good handling version called STI that has front LSD, center DCCD, rear LSD that would match well with GR Corolla. Not the new VB that uses Forester and Crosstrek SUV drivetrain of front open diff and rear open diff with brakepad torque vectoring.

[@solomon6889]

This channels so dope and has helped me learn so much about owning and modding an st can’t wait for it to blow up

[@bradfoster8146]

I love these videos. Great stuff guys

[@thomassabatino5200]

For the future, don’t use a polish that has wax in it if you’re ceramic coating afterwards. It will definitely affect the way the coating binds to the paint, you want to paint to be stripped of any protection before coating.

[@ieatpoza]

which one can you walk into a dealership and actually buy without paying ridiculous mark up fees

[@TrentP505]

Excited for this! I’d say keep the WRX wingless, STI wing on that body looks really awkward.

[@trapt29]

Agreed, I hate that damn wing.

[@titansfan0828]

THANK YOU! Could not agree more. Hate the STI wing on this body style.

[@kylemontgomery4911]

This is going to be a good series! I have a VB WRX with a whole bunch of mods I'm about to throw at it!

[@234567king]

I just installed some twin scroll invidia uel headers on my vb…..sounds amazing! I have a full exhaust paired with it

[@theredsalmon612]

Excited for this series man!

[@user-sv5wh3jf8d]

Also, this new video format is great keep the good work up mane.

[@EJ-497]

A double feature?? This is gonna be dope!

[@naticedog]

In for the VB content!

[@GypsyGuyy420]

7:45 lol his reaction to turning on the WRX. 😂 I don't think he knew how to feel about it. 'is that what it supposed to sound like??" yep

[@grecghenriquez3997]

I’m loving the VB content 🔥

[@KN-jw7ts]

Wow…..someone finally speaking facts about the car fires. Can’t believe how many hating/stupid ppl out there.

[@erickportillo613]

Absolutely stoked!!!! This is gonna be a nice series!

[@joseph.slezak]

So many huge life updates in this one. Congratulations on the wedding! So glad you are doing this series man

[@jacobMMotorsport]

Love this layout cam! Gonna be a good series

[@SansooIan]

No matter what people think, the VB has a nice shape to it, Cladding is a No go though. No Brembo package for all the trims is a Bust as well. 2.4liter engine makes reliable 330hp to the Wheel (Not Crank) with just an intake and a tune. Some dings on the Corolla? That thing has major Heating issues that they have yet to tackle, even with the 2025 Model. So far only a small company 555 is looking into solving this. Thing overheats and literally goes into Limp. Any of the times reviewers take it to the track, theres a limit for "How long you can drive it" before it needs to sit for as bit.

[@BitcoinTo150K]

TR trim sir

[@Digiphex]

I’ve still never heard a better stereo than my 2012 S4. I think it was a Bose.

[@karmahunden]

heyo are the GRC and the VB more fun than the DSG MK8R? This series will be a blast.

[@DrewH-Ando]

luv the channel yo my favorite is gr corolla luv the design and the car itself any pros or cons about it besides the fire incident?

[@ogpunkbuster]

Would be interesting if you guys do stage 1 tunes, coilovers, intakes etc. At the same time for comparison.

[@jakekyle4566]

Man I've been waiting for this for like 16 months since I got my 23 core

[@user-sv5wh3jf8d]

Fire series Idea.

[@frost-zl5gm]

I had a 2019 wrx full bolt on minus e85 drove it 30k miles really fun car. Then the new A90 supra came out I sold my wrx a while after a bought a 3.0 premium A90 in nitro yellow I’ve only put 10k on it in 2 years. I just don’t get the same enjoyment driving my Supra as I did my WRX, saying that I really like the new GR Corolla really thinking about selling my Supra to get it. Want to have fun driving again I don’t care about speed already have a Yamaha r1 for my speed. Wanna get back in a awd manual

[@DieRejctor]

looking at the numbers. . I'm happy with my Mk3 RS

[@GRC_Lexxlr8]

Finally you got in the GR 🔥

[@kaidenfoundpurpose]

this is a good series idea, good job guys. also, you guys should hit up tortilla flat and invite some viewers that also have those cars, would be pretty sick to see 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@captainfurtim8051]

For a few seconds i thought this was a new throttle house video Lmao

[@DonsShed]

Subscribed for more of this series :) Cheers Don, Perth W.Australia (Dons Shed and Xplor Overland) Note: I currently have a 2020 Stage 2 tuned M340i, but thinking about going back to a Manual JDM "Rally Car", so I'm VERY interested in comparing these two cars :)

[@antfitts5]

Both cars are pretty cool as they are channeled toward the car enthusiast. Especially in a world full of really boring cars. But in all honesty I’d still say the mk3 focus RS is still king in this category of car. It still new enough to have usable tech but old enough to give you a drivers feel. That was the car that got away on the channel imo. Excited to see where these two cars go however

[@Hanitcal69]

I’m taking my mk3 focus rs over either of these. Though I will say I was tempted by the Corolla

[@GokuTheHusky]

Seen so many videos where you can thrash the wrx while youll go into likp mode with gr corolla due to overheating diff.

[@joncaseyclary]

The G16e won top ten engine designs against mostly hybrids. The GRC isn’t super comfortable, its sound system is shit, it’s stiff on rough roads. It’s also much better than any of the 90’s cars it’s compared against. It’s a compromise but if you’re an enthusiast it’s one of a handful of amazing options. We wouldn’t have this if Toyota didn’t subsidize its build costs with a fleet of Npc cars. We should all rejoice we are living in an amazing time for fun, somewhat affordable cars.

[@intrastate7491]

Need a clip of that statement regarding the grc fires to send to haters lol

[@xxi_danny5861]

I Miss the s4 videos 🔥

[@DavidGotelli710]

Love the GR Corolla it's just overshadowed by dealerships. Seen crazy crazy markups on these things... Ouch.

[@Fulty762]

Wanted a GRC, settled for a VB, ended up hating how it drove and traded for a new GR86. Should be an interesting series nonetheless

[@zombielivesmatter7294]

this is what happened with my wife's 2022 VB, all VB owners talk about is how much HP the new FA24 makes so my wife bought it, but she doesn't care about drag racing so HP wasn't her goal, we realized how bad the handling is. We spent $7k on coilovers, bushings, sways, wheels and 200tw tires and it still handled poorly. We were at Willow Springs subaru event and a Subaru engineer explained it's because to save costs the new VB uses drivetrain straight from their SUV the front open diff and rear open diff with brakepad torque vectoring. He said not all Subaru AWD is the same like people think and that STI has front limited-slip diff, center DCCD diff, and rear limited-slip diff. Coincidentally she's looking at selling her VB for a GR86 / BRZ.

[@Fulty762]

@zombielivesmatter7294 dude exactly! It handled exactly like my fiancee's crosstrek. Felt totally dead. Glad I'm not the only one. Sure it would've been fun if I built it, but not as fun as dailying a bone stock 86

[@garboi8976]

That’s so funny I traded in my GR86 (my profile picture) for a VB wrx. The GR was so fun to drive but it snows half the year where I live so the VB is just way more fun year round.

[@zombielivesmatter7294]

@@garboi8976 and even if you changed to STI transmission, it will never ever be a STI and it will never be liked by non-VB owners. You're like the Nissan Sentra owners that say they have almost the same car as my GTR, you VB and Sentra owners will never be STI or like my GTR even if you wish, but you're going to call me a hater and say your VB and Sentra will be still and be delusional. Nothing personal kid, don't take the hard facts I'm saying personally, none of it is any of my opinion, if I could wish your VB was faster than a Bugatti trust me I would.

[@garboi8976]

@@zombielivesmatter7294 who the fuck are you talking to loser?

[@miguelc2231]

love the gr corolla

[@CameronAlford]

Really cool car

[@thescavwithnothingtolose1224]

White wheels, Rallye style with aero disks

[@angeloamato1749]

Aeroflow has the fix for the rear bumper 🎉

[@trensett3r]

should of done ur golf / gr corolla makes more sense IMO than base model wrx

[@karmahunden]

it's not a Base, it's a Limited.

[@JulioRosario-ns7bc]

Damn bro, what did you use for those tires!? They lookin matte wet lol

[@ryanhorman2747]

When will the T-shirts be available?!

[@RobHTech]

skip to 34:00 to see the video. That's not how you calculate risk. 0.03% is the prevalence.

[@Falshoinin]

Requesting that Blink be featured in all future videos

[@Patrick5]

When I'm on my evo9 I get thumbs up from a GR. When I'm on my 24 VB I get a flyby...

[@zTravicity]

Is the new VB reliable?

[@angeloamato1749]

VB merch asap🎉

[@Dustyy_allen]

Camo CS Hat restock??? Mine is clapped after a couple years... literally my daily driver lol

[@faheemabbas3965]

The GR Corolla 85 mph thing scares me a little ngl

[@christianbrandes6362]

NOTHING BEATS THE 2.OT

[@GoldensniperGaming]

Still waiting for Cameron to build a civic type r haha

[@thephoenixghost]

The GR needs the Magnaflow Exhaust, and the Subaru really needs the AWE Touring Exhaust.

[@jeremybrown3748]

I like the Cobb titanium exhaust on the wrx, the quality is great

[@chriswicks124]

RK titanium exhaust is way better than the magnaflow exhaust.

[@richardgarcia944]

.03% vs just buying a type r 😂 also it’s not just mainly that it caught on fire it’s the fact that they didn’t want to cover the warranty that’s the disrespect from Toyota plus to say it’s because of going over 80 or bad tire wear, when it’s supposed to be a track car 3cyl doesn’t make too much sense anyways at the bare minimum 4cyl 2.0 turbo it would be clean if they hooked it up with something bigger but to go smaller 🤔if it makes 300 from 3cyl why not 400 from 4cyl then it would make more sense to buy idk just my opinion

[@Timlikescars89]

There’s actually another 2024 GR Corolla that went on fire with only 1k miles. Same color as yours. I talked with the owner he’s not sure what caused it. Also be careful with the clutches on these cars… they can go bad very quickly and Toyota won’t cover them most likely…don’t ask me how I know.

[@stevemourits6440]

Gr vs rs?

[@mikepetosa4888]

To much advertising lost interest 👎🏻

[@cajatron]

Long ago someone asked me this, if I gave you a bag of 7000 skittles and told you 2 of them will kill you. Would you still eat a hand full?

[@CameronAlford]

I don’t like skittles so nah

[@mels_life1]

Long have I waited

[@lifeofjeremy4712]

You need to buy a STINGER and mod it to 600+ Hp

[@chunky671]

Looks at factory car, says it looks like a factory widebody

[@ryanlee2672]

Focus rs>>>>>>

[@Ohaiuze]

@2:21 it's piqued not peaked

[@uhhh684]

Great video! Love support a fellow believer in Christ!

[@TylerWallen]

The Corolla is getting wrapped blue right? 😂

[@AdrianMcFly101]

Manual AC for sure

[@MauriceNL1]

Let's gooo. I'm early this time😂😂

[@CameronAlford]

🫶🏻

[@scarlettjo5.0]

if you don’t want the corolla, put it in my hands lol

[@ROKstarz99]

Should look into aeroflow dynamics for some paint matched stuff, will go far for the vb

[@trapt29]

No

[@IPhonesCrash]

Blink a goat. I like him. What kind of dog?

[@cryxbaby2250]

Yeah idk about the gr.

[@richardgarcia944]

I’m sorry but there’s no way you’re actually happy with loosing the center console 😭talking about id rather have the space 😂they act as an arm rest sometimes

[@robertdoback4553]

Impossible to watch. SOOOO many cuts. Just speak fluidly. Can't deal with it.

[@GypsyGuyy420]

sick

[@envisagemind]

Lost my interest once Parker said it's better then the Golf already... Smh

[@CameronAlford]

Bro just likes manual

[@dwarnke72]

Same here. I cross shopped the wrx before I got my Golf R and saw that they run very high 13s/low14s stock depending on transmission and immediately crossed it off the list. Plus the only auto option is a CVT. That car isn’t even in the same class as the R

[@codyhendrickson7735]

​@dwarnke72 Yeah you're not wrong. The 35k WRX is not in the same class as a 45k VW Golf R. The car to bridge the gap would have been the STI but subaru killed it off.

[@banimanFJ]

@@dwarnke72the Golf R is so boring looking and underwhelming overall.

[@waykool698]

Gonna cry?

[@Ka-pj8rx]

popular opinion. n is better than both.

[@IPhonesCrash]

Cam get married?!?

[@Lenoch_]

2:23 *piqued

[@TrueCarFan]

I just wish they made the Toyota look good. Hopefully their mods fix it.

[@SarcasticComments23]

They should be pretty even with power but yeah I hope they also can fix that, maybe different head lights and tail lights.

[@parkercarrolll]

Are you cross eyed my guy?

[@brodrickflowers117]

Have you seen the tail lights on the WRX?? 🤢🤮

[@Digiphex]

Nothing can fix that. It will never be a Supra. It is a 4 door econobox at heart.

[@Eldaino999]

This is a wild comment given what car it’s being compared to lol. (And I say this as someone who digs the current wrx)

[@zensoundsunlimited9091]

replace the plastic with painted fenders! Aeroflow Dynamics makes them

[@trapt29]

No

[@TheBadassOne17]

Aeroflow dynamics is eBay quality parts. Fenders don’t match the color well and paint will crack and flake within a year

[@19hundoc47]

WRX is total garbage. So ugly, slow, boring, unreliable, gross. Why do people buy those things?

[@zombielivesmatter7294]

because all the VB owners like HP and drag racing with that HP so they like the FA24. My wife bought a 2022 VB and she unfortunately doesn't care about HP and drag racing. She took it to the track and realized the VB is very poor handling, even after we spent $7k on coilovers, bushings, sways, wheels, and 200tw tires. At the Willow Springs event Subaru Engineer said to save costs the new VB uses front their SUV the front open diff and rear open diff with brakepad torque vectoring. He said the reason other STI at the event was so much faster on the track was the handling since STI has front limited-slip diff, center DCCD diff, and rear limited-slip diff.

[@nick.mk8]

sweet vid, it sucks the wrx looks like trash :(

[@importh0412]

No way he said the VB is better than the Golf R

[@importh0412]

Also, gold wheels and wing

[@ALLANG12]

Brother is spitting facts. Sorry that you’re butt hurt 😂

[@importh0412]

​@ALLANG12 I'm not butthurt lol. Objectively, the Golf R is better. For years the GTIs and Golf Rs have been more reliable than their Subaru counter parts. There's significantly less blown up Golfs than there are WRXs and STIs lmao

[@CameronAlford]

Golf R is a better car. But depending on your personality and what you care about at that moment it’ll sway your opinion Parker likes anything with a stick 😂

[@importh0412]

@CameronAlford I didn't even think about the fact that you're Golf R was dsg lol. Good point. I've been wanting a WRX BAD lately, but I know I won't be getting the gains/$ I got with my GTI

[@Got_Boost]

I’ll take anything over a Subaru😂

[@Tonyk24]

Paint match the cladding on the wrx

[@trapt29]

No

[@arctictruck10]

The 2025 automatic GR Corolla coming out will smash both of these

[@ieatpoza]

be a real man and row your own gears