GR86 + GR Corolla = Modern Celica GT4?! Toyota's SEMA 2024 Project

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[@Jcsx.]

Pls tell them to put the GR86 drivetrain in the GR Corolla as a "Joke" for SEMA 😂😂😂

[@DJKr15py]

Modern RWD drift corolla with the Initial D AE86 livery would be kinda cool tbh

[@Simply_Yager]

That would actually be awesome 😂

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

Sure, everything except the flat four.

[@milk7360]

@@PiDsPagePrototypeswould be cool with the flat four if it weren’t for the problems we’ve been seeing with it on the track

[@thekulolali]

​@@PiDsPagePrototypesbut that's a "Joke"

[@bodhim4353]

I always wanted them to make the Scion TC (clearly the Celica successor of its time) into a GT4. This is like a wish come true

[@mcld4214]

The only thing in common with the celica it had was that its manual and fwd. i dont think thats enough to call it a successor

[@d34thby1337]

It filled the same spot in the lineup as the last Celica did, being an affordable sporty-ish FWD coupe with economy car underpinnings. It was more of a spiritual successor.

[@milk7360]

the Scion TC was the successor to the last Celica, you can even see it in the styling of the TC

[@110_Octane]

​@@mcld4214yknow TC almost stands for something

[@BlueEternities]

I have an FR-S and my co-worker just got the Corolla. We were literally talking about this like 2 days ago lol. She's gonna freak out when she sees this.

[@connoisseuroftigolbitts]

Cool 👍

[@st165celica]

This is a fun little project, I can't wait to see it rip when it's finished 😎 the fact that Toyota sanctioned this is a good sign of things to come. 💯

[@r35tmanbash]

This is awesome that Toyota is thinking of reviving the Celica and keeping the all-wheel drive.

[@CompressorSurge]

That would be amazing

[@scottjacobsen2889]

This guy is an absolute encyclopaedia of automotive information!! Incredible!!

[@johnornelas]

gosh, this would legit be my dream car. what an awesome project. the GT-4 is one of the coolest cars of all time.

[@BulliKid]

Toyota please make the 3 cylinder turbo motor standard in the next gr86 !

[@CompressorSurge]

That would be interesting

[@xXYannuschXx]

The GR86 should stay NA imho. Everything is turbo these days and its anoying.

[@1Solace]

​@@xXYannuschXxi agree, its part of its charm

[@NoHandleAT]

"Mounted like this... like thiiiisss (hand gestures)" That guy really knows his stuff.

[@RYaw25]

he don't word good, but he build car good 👍

[@theheadone]

Yeah, it was a bit hard to watch. I know my speaking skills aren't great either, but still, lol.

[@simonwatling2203]

Larry is perfect for these kind of interviews... he knows enough about cars to not ask dumbass questions... but he is naive enough to get interesting info out of the builders... nice job

[@LarryChenPhoto]

I appreciate this comment so much 😂

[@deanallen191]

There's no naivety, just curiosity. Chen really knows his stuff. One of the best out there for allowing people to showcase their builds.

[@GlobalMediaInc]

Isn't That Dai's Fabricator, That Build The BRZ, And He Is Also On His FD Team?

[@seantydingco]

It's funny that Toyota is just thinking of this. I did this to a 91 Prelude Si 4 wheelsteer and made it all wheel drive with Hondas stock Realtme AWD system from the 97-01 Honda CRV. And it's stock looking and no cutting of the chassis at all.

[@han-bm6kk]

Making the GR86 with GR Corolla engine is cool tho making such more reliable.

[@FirstStateMKIV]

Glad to see this being done!!! The 86 deserves a Toyota powerplant!

[@chrisvernier1443]

I wish it wasn't so exciting when someone puts a Toyota engine in a sports car with a Toyota badge on the hood. Great content Larry!

[@zimble]

Looks like another awesome Evasive build!

[@jaioxung]

Man having Garage Yoshida completely restore his R34 GTR in response to a GR Corolla engine in a GR86: "This is my dream build".

[@MidSouthUTV]

This would be awesome to see a full-production rally car for the American Rally Association.

[@warlockd8660]

Awesome project. I hope it encourages toyota to make a mounting kit for the corolla engine. However I'd like to see it remain RWD. Let the corolla/yaris keep the awd rally route.

[@januaryandon2]

this is going to be the coolest damn thing ever

[@apex_gr]

This was my goal as well with my GRC/ZN6 combo, but just can't decide if 4WD or RWD!

[@dazem5418]

Sick beat!!

[@DvdR-st8yf]

A mini jet engine quad exhaust for blasting thru the corners and the fucking mud

[@kongartsvg]

it needs the iconic 4 bug eyes

[@stuntdrvr]

please correct me if I'm wrong but ...wouldn't it have been easier to put the 86 body on the GR chassis?

[@maboroshimrs]

ZN6のチーフエンジニア多田哲哉さんは 「日本のスポーツカーを駄目にしたのはターボと四駆とハイグリップタイヤ」だと言ってNA FR プリウスのタイヤを履かせたTOYOTA86を誕生させましたが、結局GR86もターボ、四駆、ハイグリップタイヤに行き着いてしまうんですね。

[@1Solace]

It looks sooo hard

[@vikingboat6347]

Make a celica 4awd turbo 300 -400 hp and ill buy it.

[@LimaBrav0]

The gr corolla motor should have always been in the gr86 minus the awd.

[@MaddNomad1015]

A variation of that 3 cylinder was originally tested in the FRS back in the day, they settled on the boxer ultimately though. Even a rotary was considered

[@cupoft9917]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaitaHqBrb2NrNk I watch this a few days ago and now I see this. Not sure if it's enough to take me away from VAG. But epic none the less.

[@erniejoel1234]

Please Toyota Keep the GR86 naturally aspirated with a manual and RWD.

[@ritchieortiz4187]

I bought both for this reason and have been chatting with my buddies about the swap Toyota is only doing it Naomi can’t get a patent

[@jamesallison2644]

Yup ok 🤪

[@VividTape]

How to make the car even less reliable, which I thought was impossible

[@mark-xv8dg]

Hear me out. Rwd flat 4 corolla.

[@Talasas]

Notched frame rails means it's very unlikely this would make it to production, you'd need a new homologated chassis.

[@Taktko]

There is no reason this should ever make production. Transverse mounting. It ruins the 86.

[@seanomar3536]

Next on Toyota's Radar, An all new GR Celica with a new 2.0 Turbo. This is just a preview

[@VividTape]

And it will still suck, Team Toyota is garbage right now

[@omarawilson2853]

I’ve heard abt their new 2.0 Turbo engine. Seems promising. I hope there’s a GE N/A version that 8k capable for the next 86. I don’t think the car needs a turbo

[@Jay_Jay87]

​@@VividTape Not really.

[@ciello___8307]

@@VividTape no they don't. the GR products have been all pretty good.

[@tbas8741]

@@VividTape Toyota has always been better & Far Superior than Anything American Made.

[@krono5el]

Boot up the Saturn and pop in Sega Rally Championship.

[@oldboone]

my man

[@d34thby1337]

GAME OVER YEEEEEEEEAAAHH

[@MycketTuff]

Heck yes

[@Mrtrunks]

This comment makes me feel so old 😂

[@Mr-Blitz]

​@@d34thby1337 hahahaha best comment ever

[@AznBoiJT]

Toyota using evasive as free R&D for the next gen gr86

[@sigmaprojects]

Kind of a thing in the industry. There was a 370Z at SEMA that was the 3.0 TT setup before we saw the new Z. I'm sure if you look you'll find lots of other examples.

[@skvltdmedia]

Evasive can just sell a convo kit and make huge profits from all sensible 86 owners.

[@cvillalobos27]

Fitting, given all the evasive answers TTE gave to the FIA in 1996 regarding the former work on turbo restrictors for the St 205 WRC

[@Arsen989]

Hope you are right!

[@JuanDiegoUlate]

Next gen86... wishful thinking, but highly doubtful

[@Spartan_Pope]

Nissan did the same thing with the now current Z. Swapping a TT VQ into the 370Z back in the day. I’m assuming Toyota initiated this project to gauge public interest on a production version.

[@CompressorSurge]

They have my vote

[@MaxedMirage]

How about a Celica gt4 bonnet vent on it, allowing to bulge the bonnet and give more clearance. Would be a nice nod to the old school look.

[@sigmaprojects]

100% The hood, wide body and large rear spoiler were so signature to all the GT-Four/All-Tracs

[@gregjenkins2925]

@MaxedMirage - yes would also agree , I feel they have missed the opportunity on that aspect.

[@beezy7412]

I think the word he was looking for is “Transversely” mounted.

[@LarryChenPhoto]

It slipped my mind 😅

[@jackmagnium6115]

@@LarryChenPhoto most rally cars today have their engines mounted tranversely which makes sence. this car was competing against some stupid fast hatchbacks. and most rally cars now (if not all worlwide) are hatchbacks anyways

[@Taktko]

This is a step backward. Please install north south not transverse. In rally now days is transverse because of the cheap cars they are based on not because teams would not rather do north south installations.

[@OzwalR]

​@@Taktko why? It works as it is, and the technology is already there. The only thing they'd accomplish is increase the development time

[@JayHaell]

​@@TaktkoThere's nothing about a longitudinal awd drivetrain that's better than transverse. Most awd drivatrains are assymetric anyway (unless you go the Audi/Subaru route, which gives unnecessary understeer and makes the chassi longer in the front) The only real advantage of longitudinal is the aesthetics, it "looks" better.

[@DavidSanchez-qm2pi]

I hope they put the GR Corolla's Triple Exhaust on it as well! it's gonna freak people out!

[@bvonl90]

The GR86 becomes a Corolla again. Or a Celica GT4 Mindblowing but what a great engineswap !

[@sigmaprojects]

Nearly all Generations of Celicas shared a lot with Corollas in general. To me makes sense if they made the Celica based off of a Corolla Coupe chassis, but restyled to look like a Celica.

[@kens8903]

Toyota need to make this. They could brand it as the GR Celica 86 . Price point at $40k starting and top out at $50k?

[@lotmeet9382]

I hope Toyota follows thru with this - you'd get my money!

[@anydaynow01]

Thanks for getting into weeds for us Larry, Nerd Alliance member here loving the details!

[@matthewwain9958]

Watching with interest. (People have already done AWD BRZ's so cool to see what route Toyota go.... Right....off to watch video)

[@rjaybruhh]

*_They better sell a base model version… 😭_*

[@sigmaprojects]

That's the money making recipe. Three versions, base FWD model, upscaled FWD model and then the GR version AWD Turbo.

[@lajlijthoj]

Finally, a motor that fits this chassis. They should've dropped the boxer engine for the 2017 revision.

[@tturi2]

that engine rwd in the 86 would be sweet

[@AbrahamArthemius]

Toyota Japan, through Rookie Racing (Akio Toyoda's own racing team), actually built a GR86 with the G16E as its engine but they put the engine longitudinally to make it RWD only and use it to race in Super Taikyu.

[@CompressorSurge]

That is still awesome

[@AbrahamArthemius]

@@CompressorSurge Here's another fun fact. Before they put the regular G16E this year, Rookie Racing used a destroked G16E (1.3L) to achieve higher RPM. Considering there's been rumours around the next-gen 86 coming and the S-FR (Miata competitor) approved to be built after being in a concept car limbo for a while, this recent engine development is very interesting.

[@dylanmccallister1888]

A gr86 altrac would be cool My dad had a celica altrac turbo which for the st165 generation, the US market altrac turbo and the japanese gtfour were the same exact car. I think each dealer got like only 1 or 2 cars. Anyways.

[@CompressorSurge]

The alltrac was so cool

[@patrykrusin2501]

Now turn the gr corolla into a boxxer RWD, best of both worlds

[@bertomainot5293]

Larry, you need to follow this build, and make up dates vídeos,that would be cool.

[@CompressorSurge]

Yes please

[@TiKrx]

First awd gt86 was build 2013-2014 in Finland @ tommi mäkinen racing.

[@Goodman-4525]

Love to see what they'll do to get the handling right with a FWD engine and trans in a pure RWD chassis

[@DBtwoz]

Ironically, it’s an AWD chassis, turned into a RWD chassis, being turned back into an AWD chassis.

[@g0dd4m_w1z4rd_m4n]

​@@DBtwoz when was the gr86 chassis awd?

[@DBtwoz]

@@g0dd4m_w1z4rd_m4n The front is based on Subaru GD chassis and the rear is a Subaru GR chassis.

[@g0dd4m_w1z4rd_m4n]

@@DBtwoz it can be based on whatever, the chassis itself isn't awd

[@DBtwoz]

@@g0dd4m_w1z4rd_m4n OK, lol

[@atpgarageatl]

Awesome project! I wish they would offer the GR86 with the GR Corolla engine as a production model. I love my GR86 but that turbo 3 cylinder is insane.

[@noceilingsmotorsports]

Two running cars ay?🤔 Drop the drivetrain from the gr86 in the corolla hatch and make a Hachiroku tribute 💀😂 rwd GR corolla😭🤣

[@yotasinthewild]

This is it. This would be THE car I would trade both MR2's and my Celica for. Build it Toyota!

[@CompressorSurge]

SW20? I wouldn’t sell my STi for this but I could use another daily 😅

[@datdudeinred]

I would literally buy this in a heartbeat if they actually make one irl I truly hope when Honda makes the next type r i hope it's awd. Preferably no hybrid but it looks like it will be hybrid. But i would still take an awd type r with rear driven by pure motors. & front is same ice.

[@Budgy.Derpy12]

Now recycle the GR86 engine, transmission and rear diff into the corolla. 😉

[@DisinformationBot]

Recycle it into the dumpster.

[@StanleyKubick1]

"What side does the transmission sit on?" is such a non car guy question 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@warboyrb]

Sign me up. Want to add the AWD GR86 next to my GRY Rallye 😊😊😊

[@jeo33466]

Toyota please make this a real production car!

[@CompressorSurge]

Yes!

[@stevepascoe]

st185 owner of #69 AU delivered here for the GT4 content

[@karterjones9590]

New favorite build! I always thought Subaru wouldve done this with the STI drivetrain but this is WAY better!

[@JimmyDShea]

Subaru been trippin’ lately 😢

[@CompressorSurge]

Same but I thought it would be the WRX drive train

[@davidw.5185]

This car will be amazing ❤

[@kylenewberry8598]

I've always wanted someone to do a 2ZZGE engine swap with the 86/BRZ! Especially if it's the Lotus supercharged varient.

[@gpajic1987]

That would be so good!!

[@future_phonk]

It's on a Trueno edition 😢 Couldn't they do it on a regular base model?

[@georgegiorgio]

Toyota should make GR86 alltrac official!

[@brandonmiller9155]

Any updates on this build? I’m curious

[@michaeljohn1160]

My two racing sense. The engine being so far forward, beyond front axles, this is going to be a off balance monster.

[@christiantudela1454]

Hopefully it pulls through and we this engine in the GR 86!

[@RyanFannon-fy1yf]

Damn Larry that is a sick build. I’m glad you got this story too.

[@Von_YT23]

Really Toyota.. this never occurred to you ??

[@oemplusr20]

Love your shows man, is nice and detailed of the topic. Is not like a 3 mins overview! ❤❤ Keep up the great work!

[@CompressorSurge]

Agreed

[@whiteunclerukus]

⁠​⁠​⁠The car is a Subaru/toyota, you take any panel off of these cars you’ll see a Subaru logo, not sure why people try to separate both brands so much, be grateful they still make these 12 years after they were introduced.

[@CompressorSurge]

Agreed

[@ohios27]

Larry was not buying the idea that the hood would close 😂 Larry probably thinking of the GT4586.

[@jarodwhiting3676]

You can't water plants with Gatorade.

[@hector_nimrod]

Put the GR86 drivetrain on the Corolla and make hum a Drift car

[@CompressorSurge]

Boom

[@richard-mai]

31:28 the concern in your voice because GR Corollas have cooling issues 😂

[@Fabulousprofound168]

Has anyone done a full awd WRX drivetrain swap into one of these before?

[@CompressorSurge]

My thoughts exactly

[@LawrenceGerman]

I came across a 1993 Toyota Celica GT4 that was being sold for $25K here in PA., and my mouth hit the floor. 😮😮 The shop owner said it was used as a daily and a race car for Pocono Raceway. 😊

[@Levibetz]

Almost makes me wonder if Toyota, with the success of the GR86 and relative failure of BRZ sales is considering taking the GR86 in house with GR Corolla style drivetrain. I doubt it, but doing prototyping as a SEMA car would actually be very clever.

[@Shifty_Malone]

Say it with me now. Eight, six.

[@Xerkaw]

For a second I thought this was the Assetto Corsa mod that has been our for a awhile. Cool to see that concept come to life.

[@chrisstavro4698]

How did Toyota give them two brand new cars and not the CAD data?

[@neverendingmods]

Now that is a Toyota I'd buy today.

[@CompressorSurge]

I wouldn’t sell my STi but I could use a second car 😂

[@MsOMGwtfnoOb]

Money builds happiness 😊

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

NOW, give me this with a K series Honda engine and AWD. Not a fan of the extra strung out 3 cyl.. Its been shown why, by MANY different people. Great idea, but would be better with a more "bullet proof" power plant. Why have more failure points that you need? Just build a SUPER safe and reliable k series pushing 5-600hp, more than enough. I guess with the GR engine they get the same thing they had with the Celica.. Unreliable,, but a monster.

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

18:06 My guy, You must be new to working on Subaru's and Toyotas. Thats not RANDOM at all, thats a design choice made by Toyota and Subaru to help cut costs of manufacturing parts tooling for specific parts. Look at the Subaru line up... Everything from the STI and Ascent to the lowly base model Impreza share parts and such. You can take suspension of a Forester and Lift your impreza and its bolts right up! You can also lower your Forester on more sporty Sti suspension... For a FACTORY OEM lowering kit. Nothing about this is random. Its economical planned design.

[@robertrishel3685]

I own an FRS, bought it new…couldn’t wait to get my hands on it when they first showed up. Then I heard Toyota was making the GR Yaris and I wanted one so bad…I waited. But we don’t get it. I just want the GR Yaris. I most certainly DO NOT want this GR Corrola abomination the North American market gets….I suppose I can just dream about finding a totaled Corolla and wedging the drivetrain into my beloved FRS.

[@danmayes9439]

2:54 Look! They’re working so long that they’re peeing in bottles 😂🍾

[@Chilicharger665]

This is cool, but I would just prefer the G16 mounted longitudinally and powering the rear wheels. I bought a 2017 BRZ and 2023 GR86 brand new and the only way I would get another new one is if Toyota gets cool and puts their own engine in the car.

[@Delta19G]

Goshhhhhh i cant stand how many sickkkk asssss cars have become so ffffffun to watch and envy

[@CompressorSurge]

It’s nice to still come across unique builds

[@muddygti]

I’m not a Toyota guy, but always liked the Celica, and this is such a MAD build !!! I can’t wait to see the end product - especially in that click bait rally livery white/green/red graphic 😲

[@BrennanMcKissick]

This is going to be such an exciting project.

[@skvltdmedia]

Now, Toyota, please toss the gutless FA and just offer a revision 2 of the smooth egg "GR" with both a proper Toyota powerplant AND an awd top-trim package.

[@RyanLarivee]

I have a feeling the Supra will leave in a yr or so. The GR86 will get the 1.6L with a fairly large price increase.. The Toyota SFR will be a base entry level sports car and the new MR2 will be the expensive one. Just my guess though