Gracie jujutsu has more in common with Japanese jujutsu than you think

This video discusses the subtle and common traits between Gracie jujutsu and Japanese jujutsu.
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[@BOBBOB-tx7ox]

At the Gracie Academy we talk about all the things you mentioned and more. Its about self-defense, personal growth, not dominating but controlling, showing compassion for the other guy etc. It's a lot more than technique it's a lifestyle.

[@ThanksGuy01]

Your channel really is a small gem mate 🥋 I love the quality of your breakdowns and opinions

[@kananisha]

Thats because gracie jujitsu comes from Judo and Judo comes from Tenjin Shinyo-ryu jujutsu and Kitō-ryū jujutsu.

[@Bartron_Flat_Earth]

Maeda learned the ground fighting in Europe from Ju Jutsu guys and learned some Catch too

[@Projectdarksource]

Someone who knows where Judo comes from.

[@panzerfaust1322]

Absolutely fantastic video! Why in the hell isn’t this video everywhere?? This is awesome. Chadi kills it again.

[@SoldierAndrew]

Rest In Peace Rufino Dos Santos. It took three Gracie brothers armed with a pipe to defeat you and cripple you because you defeated Carlos Gracie using American Catch Wrestling.

[@Grapplezilla]

Excellent video, thanks for making this one. 🙂

[@MP-db9sw]

It all comes from old era jujutsu. ALL OF IT. Judo, jujutsu, BJJ, aikijujitsu, even aikido. Regardless of training culture or relative effectiveness of specific styles, trace it back and you find jujutsu/jujitsu.

[@Noone-rt6pw]

Appreciate the informative videos. The Gracies did an excellent job of learning jiu jitsu, where as they said, specifically Rorion, they have all the hold downs, locks as every other style, but they show you how to get there. Which they do. From whatever position you're in, theyll show you how to get where you should be, or what you need in different positions.

[@godspeaksbadgrammar]

Good video. Glad you are lifting up the good of GJJ. They have preserved something important.

[@Patrick-sh9tt]

Extremely interesting video

[@dylan_krishna_777]

This is a great video chadi! Last year november went to a Japanese Jiu Jitsu club and i talked with the head teacher about gracie jiu jitsu and he said it is exactly the same system ,only 3-4 times more expansive and good marketing with the first ufc . So it is almost the same maybe the lack of standing armlocks/ wristlocks and the atemi wazi what is also part of japanese jiu jitsu. Most people just go with the flow and dont understand the full history of Jiu Jitsu or Jū Jutsu

[@vladimirmartinez8431]

It is absurd how people think Ju Jutsu or Jiu Jitsu it’s only ground work, it’s just a small portion, ground work was just a final resource and a situation nobody would willingly wanted to get into, nowdays you’ll get your opponent to the ground to win a fight, only possible with one by one and under certain rules, Jujutsu it’s a lot more than just mere Ne waza!

[@user-sw4wk3op9f]

Great footage. Wish I could have trained back then.

[@MistahMolosser]

Thanks for a really interesting video Chadi. Do you have any book recommendations regarding Japanese jujitsu?

[@bewalker25]

Young royce showing already a great guard game.

[@matheuspereira3403]

Very good, Chadi!!!! Another excellent video. Best martial arts channel on KZbin. Could Chadi make a suggestion? You know the book "Self-Defense: A Philosophy of Violence." by French author, Elsa Dorlin? Would you produce a video about this book? Thank you very much and waiting for the next videos.

[@HarvestMoonHowl]

I still have all of the old written manuals my old Sensei gave to me while I was learning Japanese style Ju Jutsu, from him. He taught a hybrid form of it based on elements taken from a few different styles. But this was in the early 2000's, and especially during that time in the US anything based on a traditional form was most commonly dismissed as "fake." Besides myself and maybe two or three other students, he didn't attract a lot of interest in that martial art. For further context, I was a freestyle wrestler while attending university. And while attending the Sensei's classes I worked as a Sheriff's Deputy. I managed to get as far as brown belt before he retired. As for whether or not any of my training helped me in that line of work, it depended mostly on the circumstances involved. And I know better than to immediately dismiss anyone's capabilities based on a personal prejudice. I've watched a lot of people get themselves hurt, often to the point of trauma by giving in to that mindset.

[@wadoryujujutsukempo6289]

It used to have more in common , but i think that over time has or being lost, i read an article (interview) by helio gracie, where he said he was worried that gracie, bjj had lost the seld defence adpect of the art, in favor of ground fighting in sport. Helios lesson plan was over half standing and throwing, joint locking techniques in a self defence manner

[@joaoclaudiofontes5438]

Hi , Chadi . But wich style , more specifically ? Fusen Ryu ?

[@GermanSausagesAreTheWurst]

Originally, Jujutsu was a supplementary system to use when you didn't have a weapon. The spear and sword were the primary systems. Jujutsu wasn't created to win a war, it was created to keep from dying. The sword and the spear were for winning the war. BJJ and MMA are just adapting the techniques for use in a different context. It doesn't mean that one is good and one is bad; it simply means that they are different things for different purposes. In the Dojo I grew up in, if anybody bad-mouthed any other style or school in public, they wouldn't be around for much longer. If someone is rude, then obviously their Martial Arts are not making them a better person, which should be the goal.

[@chipsebastian8657]

Interesting vid, Chadi. When you say a lot of systems today aren't so concerned with lineage, I'm assuming you mean sport systems. I know many traditional systems that have kept it purely self-defense, no sport, as the old masters taught, who discuss lineage frequently. In our system, we have constant discussions about techniques, renzoku ken, kata, embu, randori, biomechanics, and the principles that underlie all of these things, all within the larger arena of Kempo. Are people really saying BJJ is different or separate from its Japanese origins? Maybe people doing BJJ think this or just say what some instructor told them? Of course, a two-minute reading of history clears this up.

[@agalvan91]

Strange to see, that must be Tenri LA Dojo because of Nakayama's Sensei photo on the background.

[@Cws30]

Judo Brazilian style

[@BillyTheKidsGhost]

The Edo period was 400 years... That's 400 years of total peace. When the Meiji Restoration came around war was resurrected, and the interest in the warpath increased. Schools gained their knowledge from old texts. So it's no wonder it was a bit off. But, Kano as we know, changed all that. That's why jujitsu was so stylized it had become an art and not a way... like Budō.

[@Emanuel_carey]

4:24 elementary…. NEVER grab your ankle to secure your triangle. It’s sure way to kiss your ankle goodbye

[@shvettyballs7045]

He didn't grab his ankle. He grabbed his foot and that's a no-no.

[@nnickattack9363]

Bonjour Chadi, Ce que tu décris rappelle que le judo contemporain a perdu son côté martial de la trinité "Education, Compétition, Combat" , comme explicitait Kano Jigoro dans son livre "L'essence du judo" ("Mind over Muscle" en version française). Education existe encore avec les Règles à respecter, Compétition existe aussi avec le Randori, et Combat avec le Ju Jitsu a pratiquement disparu. Le côté martial ne subsiste que pour ceux et celles qui pratiquent encore les katas kime, koshiki et goshin jutsu. Les Gracie ont plus gardé cette trinité dans leur judo. Après, le côté olympique a dénaturé le judo de Kano. Je pense que Kano voulait faire reconnaître le Japon comme un pays à ne pas négliger au niveau mondial. Et les Jeux Olympiques auraient eu pour lui, un rôle de mise en lumière de cette reconnaissance. Mais il est mort en 1938, avant de voir le judo aux Jeux Olympiques. Il était contre la "sportisation" à tout crin avec les médailles et tout ce qui a dénaturé le judo après sa mort. NB : je vous conseille un livre, qui je l'espère vous fera sourire, sur le judo, édité en 1899 et réédité en 2008 : "100 coups de Jiu Jitsu" par Emile André.

[@ramqi6239]

What people don't understand is there is no martial arts called japanese jujutsu.jujutsu is just an umbrella of many grappling style in Japan and later outside Japan like german jujutsu and Brazilian jujitsu and all these shcools have some similarities between theme as well as differences that distinguishes each other

[@yohannschroo5644]

Because People don't think too far... But i am allright with you. Besides "jujutsu" name is arrive at 16e siècle...

[@TheCCBoi]

That's not true, all Jujutsu styles come from takenouchi-Jujutsu. Which is the original jujutsu and dates back to the early 1500's. Most Jujutsu styles have more in common then you think. Additionally, the precursor to Jujutsu is Tai-jutsu and the precursor to that is Tegoi. Tegoi is the original grappling art of Japan and Sumo, tai-jutsu, aikijujutsu, jujutsu and judo all stem from it.

[@KingOfSwords720]

I don't know who told you this, but they obviously have never been to Japan and can't read Japanese. There is no native Japanese word "Jiu Jitsu" in kanji. It is written in katakana (foreign loan words) script. "Jujutsu" was called yawara. At one time over 700 schools existed in Japan pre 1900 before anyone outside of Japan knew anything about it. The kanji written on BJJ dogi is 柔術. Pronounced "juu jutsu" not "jitsu" which means, truth, reality, sincerity, honesty. So yes, it is a martial art and has cultural history (kojiki) And no, there is no such thing as german Jujutsu or any other kind. 😂

[@ramqi6239]

@@TheCCBoi I never said japanese martial arts don't share a common ancestor but that doesn't mean they are the same martial arts for example the jujutsu school that you mentioned is more like military school than dojo they don't just teach grappling they teach also kenjutsu and other stuff and completely different than later shcools that focus only in grappling and that s going to change the game completely because learning grappling in battlefield is different than learning grappling for the dojo or later for sport competition

[@ramqi6239]

@@KingOfSwords720 well there is a German jujutsu like there is Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and all what I m saying there is no martial arts in history of Japan called japanese jujutsu

[@tmt5555]

柔術＝jiu jutsu jiu jitsu 柔術＝柔術

[@edvmth]

Jiu-jitsu really is the son of Kano Jujutsu, just like the Portuguese language and daughter of Latin, everything changes, nothing is eternal in this world, no one chooses where they are going to be born, we are just born, and there was a reason for so many Japanese immigrants in Brazil, the Brazil is home to the world, this is Brazil's role to help everyone who needs a home and shelter. Deus abençoe a todos, lutem por Deus

[@aikijujutsukobudokenkyukai7467]

Solo los separa el dinero y el interés

[@brigade911]

I would like a video about how bear jujutsu influenced human jujutsu :) Seriously, this bear video is a great grapling match! With a little bit of biting thrown in kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZ3Sl5-Yr7OYg9U

[@ottonilssen1533]

No black belt in jujutsu before Kano and Kodokan, so why look for "lineages" in this aspect? Judo IS reformated jujutsu for the modern age, the beltgrades were invented as a pedagogical tool for learning. If BJJ or Gracie jiu-jitsu have such strong lineage back to koryu jujutsu why are they wearing the gi invented by Kano and not old school hamaka and kimono?...

[@Spiritof_76]

Why the dumb questions, that are actually some kind of accusation? No one in their right mind wants to grapple in hamaka and kimono. The gi is made so we can train hard and not rip thin clothes every time. It's that simple.

[@ThirdPointInLine]

It's interesting how things have changed over the last 100-150 years. For example, from what I understand, old jujutsu was very randori and tournament based, of course with self defence as the main goal. Judo was originally, from what I understand, moving away from competition and focusing more on way of life, self defence, and safe randori since a lot of Jujutsuka were getting seriously injured or worse in competition. These days, however, from the various dojos that I've been to, I see Japanese jujutsu being this more limited randori no competition art with a high focus on self defence, with a little bit of philosophy occasionally sprinkled in. The judo dojos I've seen tend to treat it more as a sport, with randori and technique being 99% of the classes, only touching on self defence if required for an advanced belt's kata. Even the fact that anything banned from the Olympics (often banned to be less like wrestling I think?) isn't included in most judo dojos changes the art dramatically. I think it's kind of sad that judo has strayed so far from what Jigoro Kano wanted it to be, but of course there's no reason for modern judo not to exist, it should just be called something else in my opinion in order to respect what judo was meant to be. In contrast, I see Japanese jujutsu almost as being another version of making old jujutsu safe and more about personal refinement and self defence rather than being about competition and proving that your style is better than another style by storming a dojo. That's not to say there aren't traditional judo dojos and bogus Japanese jujutsu dojos, it's just that from one dojo to another you may have a completely different experience, and it is difficult for some to find a traditional judo dojo or a Japanese jujutsu dojo in general.

[@vlada]

Most jiu-jitsu contained strikes and blow and Jigoro Kano was the one who created a Ryu which would take out the dangerous elements which could injure therefore would allow all out full contact randori done in a safe way. Before that jiujitsu randori was brutal and even lethal. Judo was literally the gentle way and a departure from traditional training. The part about changing the direction of judo is untrue. Kano was an educator who wanted to promote physical education and a devout and passionate promoter of Olympic ideals. He was the first Japanese representative to Olympic committee from around 1905 to his death. He wanted to fuse the Olympic spirit with martial arts spirit but also believed in competition. He even achieved in getting the 1940 Olympics for Tokyo but died later before the war.

[@TheFernie51]

JU JUTSU.

[@Spiritof_76]

Who cares? Too may people going on and on about how to spell a word that was originally kanji. Theater or theatre? Color or colour? Aluminum or aluminium? Donut or doughnut?

[@HkFinn83]

Maybe in a textbook. In practice, no. They couldn’t be more far apart. I’ve done a Japanese jiu jitsu class and it’s all ‘you punch me and I’ll catch you and twist your arm behind your back’

[@Stanly-Stud]

There's only one Judo ...end off 😂

[@canadafree2087]

The Judo guys have little ground game. Clearly they focused too much on throws. I also don't see much BJJ in this old clip but rather Japanese jujutsu which is what the Gracies were trained in. Bill Wallace showed us the tricks the Gracies used to win early UFC, it was tricks to put them into advantage. We now see BJJ is part, but not the king of UFC now that people se through their tricks. It is a bit like when you see Kung Fu bend a sword, looks impressive until you example the sword and understand that sword is useless in a sword fight.

[@Spiritof_76]

Bill Wallace showed you the "tricks". That's funny. Long hours of hard training and experimenting with techniques were the tricks. Too bad he didn't explain the tricks to Rickson or Renzo back when they were younger.

[@IRELANDISFORTHEIRISH]

No way?! BJJ came about because of JapaneseJJ, never would have guessed, except I have a knowledge of history...as do most who grapple. Be well.

[@KingOfSwords720]

Believe it or not, most grapplers do not. BJJ has become a trendy sport. Everyone is doing it. Zuckerberg, Hardy, even Al Bundy. Most could care less where it comes from.

[@IRELANDISFORTHEIRISH]

@@KingOfSwords720 People who are trendy, know next to nothing...so there's that. If you are serious about anything, you know it's history. Also, Al Bundy was doing BJJ long before it was popular.

[@trashbasementproductions223]

The Gracies like the invasions different of a real man´s challenge. In Brazil they can do everything they want but in USA generally the law works so they think twice and don´t invade like in Brazil and don´t beat people like they do with Rufino dos Santos.

[@SoldierAndrew]

Rest in peace Rufino Dos Santos. Crippled by three Gracie brothers armed with a pipe for the crime of proving Catch Wrestling was superior to Gracie Jiujitsu in a man to man bout.