When BJJ met judo in Japan

[@treavorwhitlock5606]

Chadi. I heard you are are supportive of bringing leg picks back to Judo. I subscribed to you because of this. Leg picks make Judo better, I'm glad to know someone with a platform is bringing attention to this. I remember writing a letter to the kodokan trying to stop the ban back in the day, never got a response

[@tairapeace]

Yes I agree to make judo more effective as a martial art. I joined judo in 2010 with a wrestling background. The year I believe leg attacks like morote Gari were banned. The upside to the ban was that as a wrestler im sure I would've defaulted to leg grabs during randori but because they were banned, it allowed me to develop seoi nage, ogoshi and other non-leg grabbing attacks. But yes, for the sake of having a more complete Judo/martial art, leg attacks should come back. Leg grabs are very effective in terms of takedowns as we can see from freestyle/folkstyle wrestling. That's just my perspective though haha

[@JaroslavBotka]

Another great mini study of judo/Jiu Jitsu. If you only train ground grappling or if you only practice standing technique you are robbing yourself of some very cool insights into our arts

[@vaughanmacegan4012]

Or you could do Jujutsu where you do both, plus kicking and punching as well - notice the spelling though Jujutsu. Soft/Flexible art not soft/flexible truth or Jiu witch mean nothing at all.

[@jeremyyap1714]

This is the well-reasoned answer. The truth is that both arts are better together. There is merit to specialization, especially in competitive sports settings but one should never be clueless about the other art. And for those who like to bring up the "what about strikes" "what about da streetz" arguments, just do MMA.

[@lorenzozapaton4031]

or just learn Sambo.

[@JaroslavBotka]

@@vaughanmacegan4012 my friend, I train Gracie Jiu Jitsu as well as Judo. Both systems have striking or atemi waza in them. Is you are worried about the semantics of “Jiu vs jū” then you’re a serious student of linguistics and not a serious student of martial arts.

[@sclg560]

Good video. BJJ guy needs more patches though. I still see part of his GI.

[@drewid3876]

There is something to be said for the stunning effect of a swift throw, and the dizzying effect of throws like yoko tomoe nage. I do BJJ but my background is judo and it taken me years to figure out how to use judo against someone who might pull guard or stiff arm you. When I do get a good throw against someone, I often get a submission right afterwards in the split second while they are reorienting themselves.

[@dylan_krishna_777]

That's the great advantage that Judo has over BJJ because what you said a good trow will get your opponent disoriented or dizzy and he also have less time to see that submission coming.

[@kennethrogers1129]

If uki gives you stiff arm, apply arm bar, such as elbow press, place your palm under his elbow and rotate with pressure to lock the elbow, it’s a fundamental judo lock often used, it can also be done be grasping cloth at the elbow from standing,

[@kennethrogers1129]

And in the real world pulling guard is an invitation for a kick to the head

[@dylan_krishna_777]

🤙🥋@@kennethrogers1129

[@dylan_krishna_777]

Also it was crazy to see that BB Judoka's tap BJJ black belts 🙄 Maybe those Judoka's in Japan cross train in Kosen Judo.

[@ankryth]

That armbar immediately after throw at 3:50 is gorgeous

[@alanwongtylerchristian]

That's why they teach you in Judo to hold onto the hand on takedown.

[@TheMule71]

@@alanwongtylerchristian Exactly. Modern olympic judo has drifted way too far away from the origins. The whole idea behind hippon (as a fight-ending point) wasn't about making your opponent's back touch the ground. It was about gaining such an advantageous position that a finishing move was superfluous and implied. That's clearly exemplified by the last fight. Today too many hippons are awarded on technicalities, sometimes even if the two figheters end up in a position that is clearly disadvantageous for the one getting the point. It should be all about effectiveness and control. Today you can slowly manage to roll your opponents on their back, causing almost no meaningful impact, ending up completely loosing control, or worse (ending up being controlled by them) and still be awarded an hippon. I remember back in the day discussing the effectiveness of ko-uchi-gari (o-uchi too, in some cases), in which you hardly can produce much force, and often end up inside someone full / half guard. Meaning, in the fight , it's more of a zero-sum gain rather than a winning move. It was a different time. And you needed a high rank judoka to judge a fight properly, something that is probably incompatible with modern globalization of judo. The "holding onto the hand" serves two purposes... you guide a willing (or unwilling) opponent to a proper fall keeping control (which is useful both in practice and in fights). Philosophically, you're fighting in armor, and need to expose the weak point under your enemy's armpit to deliver a killing blow with your tanto.

[@Sira628]

The offshoots of judo like bjj and sambo prooves that is a legitimate style. A combative judoka is dangerous as with other grapplers.

[@darbyheavey406]

Look at Gene Label…trained in Japan after the war…Judo and so much more…

[@Vicariously_gifted]

Yet very rarely do you see judo guys winning no gi tournaments.

[@Sira628]

@@Vicariously_gifted yet rarely you see bjjers win in judo tournaments

[@Vicariously_gifted]

@@Sira628 no shit. But no gi is the middle ground genius.

[@Vicariously_gifted]

@@Sira628 you realize bjj turneys and no gi are 2bdiffernt things just like judo ia different from bjj

[@mwithers13]

This vid was on point. I remember telling one of my guys that eventually I’m going to start training Judo because even though I’m pretty ok on the ground I need more experience and practice with proper nage waza

[@yohannschroo5644]

A new post for this channel 🎉 Like Chadi said it is the fact the judoka doesn't want turn or develop their Ne-waza. I remember one black belt in my judo's club said "i just survive in ground fighting" 😅 This is a big problem but after all, this judoka are strong in Tachi-waza and throws for compensation. But this a still a problem : i have doing just 3 months of Brazilian Jui-jitsu and Grappling, and with that i submit every brown belt in judo ! 😮 This is a joke ! 😂 Or the traditionnal judo in his begins it is 50% stand-up and 50% ground fighting, so we can say the modern judo is not a real or good judo and derives of his origins and roots ! This is my opinion in all case 😊 Thanks Chadi for this video ❤

[@johnelliott9823]

Hi Chadi Thanks for the great content I understand that the tachi waza over ne waza mentality is prevalent in the US judo scene according to some. But in Canada training guidelines demand equal emphasis on both in terms of specialized randori time spent and this is tracked. So I think you can be good at both and succeed because this regime has success stories

[@TheFistFromTheBronx]

Chadi I just want to say I love your channel. It’s extremely informative and I myself coming from a boxing and classical Judo and Japanese Jujutsu background appreciate your work. I mean it is a breath of fresh air seeing and hearing the old techniques being used and explained. Please keep this channel going the martial arts world needs this. 🥋 🙏🏾

[@rabidagas]

Manji Takezawa, a jujutsu fighter who was already performing in South America in 1873, was hired to train the imperial guards in 1888, when Brazil was an empire at the time.

[@Gonosen]

You should interview Ray Stevens...UK Judoka, silver medalist at the Olympics and Rodger Gracie BJJ black belt.

[@Tyler123-h3e]

Nice Vid as usual Chadi! Nothing against BJJ, I love both arts but BJJ tends to appropriate itself some techniques that was clearly invented in japan (Judo or a Koryu before). For example the famous Imanari roll is the ashi kube gatame. Source : "The art of jujitsu the legacy of Minoru Mochizuki's "YOSEIKAN" page 288.

[@BigUriel]

As much as BJJ guys hate to admit this BJJ is basically Judo (almost) without throws. The differences in how they work and look in action are more a result of the different rules of competitions and the difference in time spent on ground work vs throws rather than a difference in the techniques list.

[@DAM1443]

the problem is judo federations ban techniques, those techniques dont get teached in the dojos and get lost in the time, and is just after some modern grapler take the same position and develop some game around it that judokas all of a sudden get mad and say that bjj is stealing from them. i seriously dubt that the judo technique that you refer have all the variations and re entries that imanari developed, who was primarly for winning in mma/shooto and not in bjj.

[@arthemas8176]

Ironically the Imanari Roll was invented or popularized by a Judoka and Wrestler. But yes BJJ tends to steal techniques from either Judo or Wrestling and show them as their own invention.

[@BigUriel]

@@DAM1443 Banned techniques don't get practiced, but still get taught. You have to perform all the techniques in the kata for dan grading.

[@Tyler123-h3e]

@@BigUriel At my dojo Kani Basami and flying armbar are not allowed even in demo and we have at least one class per session on old school Judo.

[@Italiangentleman2394]

Hey chadi I've been watching your channel for a few years now and it has changed my jutsu game implementing some judo into it I've also added wrestling in as well. I think we as grapplers should be implementing techniques from other forms of grappling especially since they are all similar. But as you stated earlier, the goal is different but I think the argument of which is better is kind of old when they are both phenomenal and I think they both complementary each other but great video!

[@gengotaku]

I´m privileged for training at a dojo in which half of practice is dedicated to newaza and the other half to standing randori. However, once I decided to take a trial in BJJ just to find out it´s the same thing with the exception that they don´t practice throws, as much as many people in judo clubs don´t practice newaza. Instead of getting more newaza in BJJ I decided to start karate in addition to aikido.

[@vaughanmacegan4012]

Judo is a great base art to add other things. I started in Judo and when I went into Karate I felt I had a distinct advantage when sparring but was left disillusioned when it came to self-defence. What if the person I was fighting could take my best kick or punch what do I do then, I was really concerned, that piece of the puzzle was solved by (JJ) Japanese Jujutsu where I had a huge amount of things I could do that Judo/Karate never taught, grappling, locks, throws, to newaza. Since, then I have added a lot of elbow/knee strikes to really round out the strikes, done tai Chi, white crane, more on the aikido side of Jujutsu (aikido being another offshoot like Judo).

[@anderandersson5229]

Great channel man! Said it before, awesome content bro! 😊

[@unassailable6138]

Yoshida and Flavio Kanto are the most complete fighters on the planet. Honorable mentio to Demian Maia

[@brianericksen4700]

Yamada Sensei talked about 2 Brazilian wrestlers, big guys apparently, who had been going around Japan challenging dojos and winning and came to Aikikai Hombu dojo. Yamada expressed such admiration for Tohei taking them both in at the same time I believe and pinning them both using his ‘heavy arm’ technique? Conversation from long ago and best I can remember.

[@Spiritof_76]

It is difficult to get into judo when you are older due to the injuries while taking throws, and learning to breakfall. I think that is part of why bjj has grown in popularity. Anyone who gets their kids doing judo and bjj both is probably the best combination. If they also wrestle, then they are getting a very well-rounded grappling education.

[@Jeffro5564]

BS. There are older people that do judo. In south Australia a group of 66 to 87 are helping to prove that judo can decrease risk of falls and keep them out of hospital. Judo has techniques that can help older people fall down safely, even the creator of judo did martial arts within 80s. Only people like you stuck in mentality that judo isn’t worth it for older people. Get your facts right before you go up BJJ route and calling judo useless

[@Spiritof_76]

@@Jeffro5564 Where did I call it useless, buttmunch? If you think I have zero experience in judo, you are wrong. I was on a college team, and still train off and on and attend tournaments. Let me throw some 66 to 87 year-olds with a variety of goshis, even lightly, and see what they think. Those senior citizens are going to start with A LOT of slow, low to the ground breakfalls and spend a long time doing them before they do anything more advanced. Old judoka do way more throwing than accepting throws, and they coach or sit on the sideline more than anything. You have a lot of nerve coming into this thread aggressive and full of piss when all I wrote is that starting late is more difficult, "Jeffro."

[@JEFFMAN90]

A lot of Judo dojos cater to kids thats why its not popular

[@НемањаМићић-к9р]

​@@Jeffro5564 I just read somewhere that a man got his 2nd or 3rd Dan black belt at 85 years old. He started at 71. Judo is good for your body, good for flexibility and gymnastics.

[@Vicariously_gifted]

You can train bjj at 100% is one of the great things about it. Just tap

[@ajherring92]

I've been working on my stand up game for a year or so now, studying judo tapes and i even got Kano's book. My BJJ gym insists on starting standing trying for takedowns or throws over pulling guard. What I've found is exactly as you're saying, Judo and Jujitsu are in essence thr same game but with different rules.

[@azraelknightquest5754]

I think what a lot of people are ignorant about, is that in Japan there are different types of Judo tournaments, with varying rules. Yes, in the Olympics and so forth, things like leg-takedowns, leglocks, neck cranks are banned. But there's still Kosen Judo universities and even ne-waza tournaments in some parts of Japan where some Judoka have extensive ground work comparable to BJJ, as well as their many throws and leg takedowns. I strongly recommend if you really want to test yourself against a Judoka or get some of the BEST training, pay the money to go to Japan.

[@j.montoya7051]

Another well presented lesson, THANK YOU ! As an aside, it seems to me that the disparity in the amount of time it takes to get good at ground-work (Ne-Waza) as opposed to throwing (Tachi-Waza) was the reason for the rules change that birthed Kosen (Koto-Senmon-Gakko) Judo, practiced at the original 7 Technical Colleges in Japan (Hokkaido, Tohoku, Tokyo, Nagoya, Kyoto, Osaka, & Kyushu Universities) !

[@subimaginos]

Try fighting with judoka on hard surface like concrete. Once they throw you, it's game over

[@marcelodiaz5006]

Yeah, like a double leg slam can't be performanced against judokas

[@subimaginos]

@@marcelodiaz5006 it can, it's just that a lot of people underestimate how much it hurts and can be dangerous when someone slams you on concrete. There are no padded mats on the street. Every contact with your head and concrete is a different story than on mats.

[@1yabeyabe]

Mat burns are real and hurt like hell. Imagine concrete burns. 😳

[@mrburns2128]

​@@marcelodiaz5006 are you talking about morote gari? Last I knew it was in the go kyo even before bjj existed...

[@joaobanza5808]

For a few years now, in Olympic Judo, or IJF rules, we are not allowed to touch the legs of your opponent with your arms or legs. It’s still part of classic judo, just as punches are. It is still Judo, there are no styles or variants in Judo, it’s just you cannot use these techniques in a sports competition, only in Katas. Also, the only joint lock we are allowed to do is the elbow lock or armbar. All others locks are illegal, again in the sports context.

[@Shadowrulzalways]

“I don’t fear the man who practices 1000 kicks. I fear the man who practiced the same kick 1000 times”. - Bruce Lee That saying is so true to any martial art. Including Judo. If a Judoka is dangerous with his O Soto Gari, I would be afraid because if that technique is done with enough force, I could die or end up in the hospital at least. We all know Hidehiko Kimura was infamous for that technique in Japan. Before his Ude-Garami (Kimura Lock) was used on Gracie. And seeing that Judoka take that BJJ guy down so fast with O Soto Gari and Juji-Gatame for the finish, shows me he mastered that technique more. I mean, it’s one of the most practical, effective and easy to learn techniques in Judo. Especially in self-defense and street fighting. Easy to manuver and improvise with. That’s why I practice it a lot more than most techniques. Don’t get me wrong I practice a lot of my Judo techniques extensively, but O Soto Gari is my favorite of Judo techniques and I prefer to master it more cuz I like to be sneaky with my legs. And with my striking background, it helps even more.

[@AntonAdelson]

The second fight was beautiful!!

[@mariustresorus942]

Pour la rue, Muay Thaï à la sauce néerlandaise et si on va au clinch, il faut passer en mode judo pour projection efficace puis passer au BJJ si ça dure encore au sol. Je pense réellement qu'il faut étudier ces trois arts martiaux et ne pas se contenter du MMA. Parallèlement, la maîtrise des armes de poing et des armes longues sont très probablement un bon investissement pour les vieux jours.

[@jackfisher1921]

There is a significant difference between throw and a take down. Judo focuses on throwing because Ippon level throws can kill someone in real fighting. Wazari level throws can injure your opponent and set you up in a great position to follow up with newaza. But the control was "Not quite Ippon." Take downs will set you up to do newaza but they lack the damaging impact of a good Judo throw. Morote Gari is a double leg throw. Not a double leg take down. If a person just uses it as a take down it's up to the refs to score appropriately. There's no reason to ban it. Judo used to be a combat sport, with rules designed around what would happen in an actual combat situation. Unfortunately the IJF is turning it into a political circus. Making rules that eliminate certain techniques to protect their favorite champions.

[@Shadowrulzalways]

Judo is a martial art first, and a combat sport second. It has dirty techniques for self-defense and was used successfully over the years for that.

[@Fachrul_R_Siraj]

Especially in the modern era, combat sports are actually one and the same entity, which is merely trained or competed under different rules according to existing regulations.

[@outerlast]

i'd say, for judo, if you fall or follow the fall when you throw, it shouldn't be considered ippon. at most it should be waza ari, and yes it includes all successful sacrificial throws. that way, you should follow up with newaza, and people will get used to newaza after the throw, whether the attackers or the defenders

[@Artexerxes1]

I’m pretty sure the sub at 2:52 is kunnuki Garami. You can tell by the bend in blue’s arm/elbow.

[@mathiasduventru7330]

In France, if you train in judo, you can compete in Jiu Jitsu (You just have to take a permit at the CFJJB). And the old generation of Jiu Jitsu practitioners were doing both judo and Jiu Jitsu. So you are right that we should keep upper body throws to bé efficient because we should keep upper body throws to efficient because we lost them.ff

[@uwemaxjensen3028]

Tak. Interessant.

[@Littlepotatochip117]

Can you do one of the ufc fight Diaz vs perysian?

[@JoeXsmurf]

@2:50 Looks more like a Mir lock, or an americana type action on the shoulder, rather than Hiza Gatame, which is a straight armbar.

[@vids595]

1:03 that is clearly a wrestling style double leg, not judos morote-gari. Although the underlying principles are the same, the origin matters.

[@KingOfSwords720]

This is why Judo has weight classes, like boxing and wrestling. The copy is never sharper than the original.

[@arnoldcohen1250]

size is a quality of its own

[@KingOfSwords720]

@@arnoldcohen1250 exactly, like cars and SUV's. Different weights, different categories.

[@jackfisher1921]

Judo started having weight classes for international competition. To this day they still have open weight tournaments in Japan.

[@DAM1443]

ohhh, the all japan isnt a sharper competition, because they have an Open weight division.

[@KingOfSwords720]

@@DAM1443 not the competition. I'm talking about the art. I think you missed the point. But you are right. Most people who talk about open weight comp never competed.

[@Nieves_mly]

Great video

[@twistedcoffee1187]

Judoka is optimized for Judo rule setting, looks like Judoka is good at attacking from dominant position or inside butterfly guard, but has few knowledge from adverse position like half guard.

[@RoninFitTV]

Great video, overall! Personally, I agree with the gist of what you’re saying. Respectfully though, I do have a qualm with how Sensei Komuro was presented here. I feel it’s important to note his record against “BJJ purists” (that is, guys without any judo, sambo, or wrestling experience) that I think paints a different picture of the “bjj vs judo” theme. He won most of his matches with the BJJ black belts he fought in Japan. In one tournament, he went through all the belt divisions, including black belt, and beat them all. He only lost to Souza, who has you noted, was bigger…and equally athletic. Aside from losing to Shinya Aoki at another tournament (Aoki is a 2nd or 3rd Dan in Judo, so I don’t feel he counts) he also lost by DQ to Leo Veira at a pro-grappling event. So to be clear, he’s only been taken down ONCE, by a bigger opponent, and really only legitimately lost once to ONE guy who is a BJJ purist (Souza). All that to say, if you have a good judo black belt like Komlock or even someone like Ludwig Paischer who is competent in judo newaza, I’d say they’d still give many BJJ black belts a good run for their money under bjj rules. I don’t see it happening the other way around though.

[@EDDIXspider]

Years ago when i was one of the few MMA/BJJ fans(10-13-15). I'm expert in striking more then 15 years. But me and some friends try to trein BJJ from "Grasy combatives". I have wresling, roll and may be grepling taland. But my experiace was 10 years striking with a little wresling half a year when i was little. And after box, muy or ki-box class. A lot of time we free stile wresle+ submishan. I had a LOT ex Juto,samo and few ex wresling teen/ man. Years ago my basic submi\shan game was enough to beat all most any Judo,Sambo,Combat sambo, wrestling normal compeditor. People who go to amateur competition. Only the medalist the real pros was able to submit or no one win. The biggest problem in Judo and Sambo was. They trein to go to competition ( i live in eastern Europe Bulgaria) and they trein many take downs but all most ZERO submitions. The funny things was last time i spar with subs. was before covid. And now even Judo, Samo gays watch MMA and they are A LOT better - no. I mean with few obvious holes in their games.

[@supernalbjj]

rules make styles. it isnt about better or worse. it is about gaming the rule set. and the best competitors work out moves that work well inside the rule set of the sport they are doing. ie boxing just punch, muay thai mixed striking, judo gi throws and pins, bjj ground tech, wresting throws in the clinch, mma a mix of all. etc etc etc.

[@gregorde]

Komuro is a bjj black belt too. He’s trained with nakai for years..

[@РамазанКусайнов-я5х]

so Komura is a representative of kosen judo and trained BJJ, and also has a black belt in BJJ from Yuki Nakai

[@АндрейКалиберда-п6ж]

Спасибо.

[@johnbwill]

A comparative study between Judo and Jiu Jitsu - is like doing the same with cooking. Line shave become blurred. The intermingling of Judo, wrestling and Jiu Jitsu ... was inevitable, as soon as the internet became a thing. The challenge, if there is one, is to maintain separation between these art forms.

[@naakaalastudio6655]

"So many of them don't even know one throw" 😂😂😂

[@fgsf9]

bro love ur content exactly what u describe is the problem i had guard pullers while im trying to get clinch takedowns and alot of what im missing is judo explosive entries into submissions ,..... im always uke so my ability to be a tori and try to win is hard even in tachi waza im always passive with my grips i always am dominate tho getting good levers gi but i am a no gi guy fr ...... but how that man grabbed a colar n osoto gari that was incredible ...... like its obvious to drill or to catch on a untrained person but a black belt in live competion wow .... for one he should have known the escape his opponent two my focus is in his kumi kata his grip fighting his Tsu rite immediately got him a one handed throw ............ in my head i think there no hand throws (tackles singles and doubles*) 2 hand throws like well almost every move shown is usually static ......like the nage no kata all two hand basic throws .... then 1 hand throws that can come off a one hand grip .... interesting choice he chose a outer reap id assume i wouldnt have had it esp cuz the guy could stiff arm .... maybe its cuz his heart he stepped so deep the other guy didnt have time to really think to push as he probably wanted .......

[@adrianfytr35]

Nice video. These are matches, not fights. There's a difference.

[@eyeofthetiger319]

Judo and Jiu Jitsu are the same fight. The unique diference is that the Judo was to Olimpic rule, focusing on throws, and the BJJ was to ground fight. But is the same fight. The change the name to judo was because Jigoro Kano wish that the your concepts were focused on a way of life and not on the only tecnique. In Brazil, the Gracie famaly keep call the fight that they learn with Mitsuyo Maeda by Jiu Jitsu, I think that becuse this was create this big confusing.

[@vids595]

I think the name change had more to do with the creation of a combat sport from a martial art. But they changed names constantly in Japan, its only suspicious when non-japanese do it apparently.

[@eyeofthetiger319]

@@vids595 Yes, too. But the 'Do' mean way. The Jitsu mean tecnique. And as you said, Jigoro Kano didn't want that Judo was only a tecnique from combat.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

​@@eyeofthetiger319exactly. Just like Kenjutsu turned into Kendo and Aikijujutsu turned into Aikido (kinda) and there are many other Budo out there. Furthermore, Judo is not just Jujutsu techniques plus the Budo part, Jigoro also developed techniques himself and he took from many Jujutsu styles, not just one, making Judo a more complete martial art (in the grappling sense, mind you) than those Jujutsu styles. He also added the Judogi which allowed for better training, kinda

[@bruceparker6142]

How do you explain Oda students beating kodokan students by pulling guard and relying on newaza?

[@vaughanmacegan4012]

Judo: means the soft/flexible way/path. Jiu: means nothing at all in any language and "Jitsu" means truth.

[@3Mus-cat-tears]

Chadi you are correct, Osoto is haaarrrrrddddd

[@SoldierDrew]

One can specialize in one aspect of the art resulting in handicap in the other aspect of the art. Or one can be proficient, but not great, in both aspects of the art. . .tachiwaza and newaza. Specialization is for surgeons and insects.

[@vids595]

This is why newaza is so weak in judo. And why bjj guys added wrestling in recent years.

[@jackfisher1921]

@@vids595 Wrestlers and Judoka have been cross training for decades. It goes back as far as Kano's day, when he taught Judo to the Russian Wrestlers doing Sambo. Unfortunately, the rules of the individuals game will dictate what they focus on. And the politics of international Judo has watered down Newaza. If it wasn't for the Brazilians preserving all the old Judo techniques, they might have been lost.

[@marwanerabia4597]

Judo is best there is a reason why it is in the olympics

[@hddh5917]

it's so good that they keep changing the rules according to how bad the japanese team performs. The next rule of the judo federation is gonna be "french team is not allowed to participate anymore" hahahahahahaha

[@martiallife4136]

​@@hddh5917The Japanese don't have a say in the rule changes.

[@hddh5917]

@@martiallife4136 basically all the new rules always helping them, its just a coincidence. Thats literaly why 99% of the bjj community is against bjj in the olympics.

[@martiallife4136]

@@hddh5917 The IJF is based on Europe and is headed by mostly Europeans.

[@hddh5917]

@@martiallife4136 could be headed in mars, the results always benefits one team

[@rogeriodaniel2845]

I always say that the difference between Judo and Jiu Jitsu are the rules! Both came from the same source!

[@dlebron007]

The advent of BJJ's popularity has watered real Judo training. The old-school practitioners were solid standing and on the ground. If your your skill is competent you will not be wrestling on the ground toggling for a position that is risky and open for a weapons attack on the street. This is the flaw that I find with BJJ because it does not reflect the potential of judo and definitely has nothing to do with real Jujitsu. The purpose of judo is to take down someone and finish with atemi waza or lock that was already part of the throw. When throws are done properly the opponent will be disabled. BJJ is a good beginning part of judo and a nice sport.

[@larsmuller1019]

The throw in 3:50 is not O-soto- gari, its like O-soto-otoshi.

[@FunkyBukkyo]

More enjoyable to watch. Nobody starts from a ground butt scoot

[@StimmedPenguin]

Good randori sessions focusing on the martial art of judo should include tachiwaza only, newaza only, and tachiwaza and newaza. When I attended university, I was fortunate to train in a club that did focused randori and we trained both although admittedly not to the level of kosen judoka or BJJ players. It was enough to learn how a good throw can make the start of the fight on the ground much easier and how not to be defenseless when thrown and to look for an opportunity to reverse the advantage.

[@billrose2339]

Does BJJ train atemi waza like the Kodokan does?

[@Ymirson999]

You made a very salient point when you used the word, "priorities." My own personal priority is and always has been self defense. So judo would be my choice. As has been said so many times before, one-on-one, on the ground, BJJ has the advantage. Usually. Fighting in a "street-fight," on the ground as BJJ does, presents the problem that a lot of ground on which anyone finds themselves in a street fight would be more damaging than your opponent. On cement, possibly with things like broken glass and metal objects like parking meters, if you're rolled into them, it's going to hurt and damage you. Furthermore, and something that has been pointed out forever, I don't want to be on my back in a street fight. I was a corrections officer for 16 years and one day, in a housing unit, a fight broke out. One of my fellow officers did a great job using BJJ positioning, technique and hours of practice to pin one of the combatants against the wall, laying in a prone position face down against the inmate. Which was all well and good, but then a second inmate ran up and kicked that officer in the head, giving him a concussion. And that's why judo will always be my choice. If that officer had put the inmate on the ground with a good seonagi, which would have taken a fraction of the time, the inmate would have most likely lost the will to resist and the officer would still be standing, in a position and state of readiness to defend himself against anyone else who assailed him. So, mad respect or BJJ, but judo forever.

[@Yupppi]

I don't get why people are so against newaza. Feels like the most important thing to me, like 50% of the game. Sure ippons are cool but you rarely get ippons. So many good newaza artists have killed the competition by being able to follow the missed throw with an armlock or some other quick submission. If you don't defend against those well and someone knows what they're doing, every throw, be it good or a miss, will become so dangerous. Just recently saw some highlights from Keldiyorova and she would almost always score juji-gatame win. She'd just attack after a throw and they'd have an opening. Same with Travis Stevens. Love to see it.

[@warrennicholsony.fernando4513]

It's not just the art but the man who practices it f

[@brunovieira8432]

Excelent

[@Janisurai]

hopefully Judo can make itself relevant again by fixing the rules, would be cool!

[@ADAM_COLLECTS]

just youtube search Judo Jeff Lawson and see the efficacy of judo in grappling.

[@chcknpie04]

Where can I watch this duel??

[@vids595]

The way jujitsu is going in the west, wrestling has become paramount, so I think that "bjj" guys will rival judokas in standing, at least when it comes to no-gi.

[@ClwnJuNkY]

All the names I have writen down in the BJJ encyclopaeda

[@tzz4182]

The biggest difference between Jiu-Jitsu and Judo is that Judo was born in war, while Jiu-Jitsu was born in a pure arena. In actual combat, if you take the initiative to fall to the ground to entangle the opponent, you will also put yourself in a very dangerous situation. Your opponent can't always be alone.

[@TheAseer2020]

Technically by the historical usage of the word jiu jitsu, isn't Aikido also a form of jiu jitsu?

[@breannestahlman5953]

Under which rules ?? ?

[@gilionazog7822]

Es que BJJ es Judo Newaza,el BJJ es solo un nombre que le pusieron los Gracie, el BJJ no es otra cosa que Judo Newaza

[@JohnJohnson-pq4qz]

Firstly, these are not 'fights', they are grappling matches and since many and all 'old school" BJJ players crossed trained in Vale Tudo/MMA this is an important distinction. To actual "fighters" fun, safe grappling matches prove very little about "fighting" and should be vied that way to help reduce the amount of flaky ego that seems to go along with a lot of sport grapplers too scarred to actually "fight".

[@nobbytang]

I reckon Kano adjusted his style of Jujitsu to what the Tokyo police needed so that when the Tokyo police held that tournament back in the late 1890s ..his school won and Judo was adopted by the police …the police would of wanted in a riot situation a style which threw people to the floor and then held them until another officer arrives to held arrest them ….not a new newaza expert…

[@Edale0987]

The problem is that master don’t want students to be better than them.

[@axvlife]

Can you explain why someone who does Judo can not go compete in Jiu Jitsu? Except for IBJJF events, (well at least here in the US), anyone can sign up for most BJJ competitions. There is no federation affiliation or membership needed for many.

[@JoriMikke78]

They are afraid of losing

[@lorenzobianchini4095]

​@@JoriMikke78they are not afraid of losing, the Inter federation is afraid of losing athletes who move to other disciplines.

[@bruceparker6142]

It's any combat sport. Not just jujitsu. From the British judo federation site.

[@axvlife]

@@lorenzobianchini4095 that sucks. Maybe they should try and be better so people won't want to leave. They are adding a new layer of government to people and restricting them from life.

[@axvlife]

@@bruceparker6142 that sucks. Is there any way to do Judo in the UK without being affiliated with them?

[@stevezy4772]

Never heard of any of these "BJJ" Black Belts.

[@krane15]

You need to do a better job of identifying the opponents. Easy to do when the uniforms are different.

[@highchamp1]

Boxing Boxer Vs Brawler

[@patrickdicintio7966]

The Big bang bang😂

[@7-_Kh]

Дзю -до изначально боевой вид. Все схватки в жизни начинаются на ногах. Дзю -до учит твердо стоять на ногах и мощно бросать противника. Этим соблюдается основной принцип рукопашного боя. Дзюдзюцу этого не практикует.

[@bonilla1240]

Well said 👏

[@7-_Kh]

​​@@bonilla1240,имею на то основания. Броски дзю -до помогали мне одерживать победы в уличных схватках. 👍.

[@Quantum3691]

It appears judo is not as versatile as juijitsu. Which is why jiujitsu gets high praise these days.

[@JeffreyMarciano]

'Jiu jitsu has become very popular in Japan' is an outrageous sentence to say unironically when discussing martial arts

[@djignatin4043]

I am second Dan in Japanese Jujutsu and several years of BJJ. JJ wins ALMOST every time. Judo is good. JJ is better.

[@TheFighterheart]

First of all, let me say that I'm really grateful for this KZbin channel and the work it does. It reflects what I've personally experienced in Judo and BJJ circles. I am a long time practitioner of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and I also practice Judo. Being part of both worlds, it's interesting to see the similarities and differences between the two. I agree with what was said in the video that in the final analysis they could be seen as the same thing but with different specialisations. But a sport is not just a sport, a martial art is not just a martial art - it is also about the culture that surrounds it. Those who are involved in both know that the cultures in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Judo are not identical... There is a significant overlap, but they are different. Firstly, as a Judo practitioner, I find it shameful to see the high level of hostility that exists in the Judo community towards BJJ practitioners. I started BJJ many years ago. When I reached brown belt I started to practice judo seriously and because of my personal life, which includes a bit of travelling, I've also experienced different judo dojos from the start. So this isn't just the experience I had in one dojo. Even though a lot of people were nice, a lot of people were quite unfriendly towards me as soon as they found out that I was doing BJJ. This was new to me as I'm generally a soft, likeable person and have only had good relationships in other martial arts. I never bragged about my brown belt in Jiu-Jitsu (in fact no one in Judo knows I have a brown belt as no one has even asked) and only talked about doing BJJ when directly asked. Yet a lot of people feel really threatened by it, by the new kid on the block, by BJJ. Even Chadi... How can a guy like him not follow and even consider John Danaher on Instagram? Why do judokas feel so threatened by the new kid on the block? It's amazing. They just focus on the bad things or the sub-optimal rules that maybe BJJ has, but they are completely blind to what is happening in judo and how this art suffers from the high degree of centralisation of power. It is frightening to see how much Judo has lost as a result of one-dimensional rule set. How much more amazing would it be if Judo had to adapt to more coexisting rule sets, like in the past, when Judo was not so centralised and competitors competed under slightly different rule sets.

[@DavidChatterton-j6b]

The point I would like to make is that Brazilian Jiu Jitsu was not invented by Brazilians. It was invented by the Japanese. They might have made a few moves of their own, but I don't believe they have the right to call it "Brazilian" Jiu Jitsu. As an extra, Google the video of Royce Gracie getting his ass handed to him by a Japanese Jiu Jitsu artist.

[@andresprinter5041]

I prefer a clean ipon.

[@schiva999indra5]

ну да два самурая сошлись и дрались 3 года )))))!!!!!!!

[@vaughanmacegan4012]

Can you please explain what "Jiu" actually means? I know it doesn't mean anything in Japanese and it doesn't mean anything in Portuguese either, so, it is just a nonsense word, so the meaning would be "nonsense truth". I'm curious as to why the higher up the Portuguese Judo allow this to continue! Please enlighten me?

[@BenWeeks-ca]

The word “jiu jitsu” derives from the Japanese “Jū” meaning “gentle” and “Jutsu” meaning “art”; essentially, jiu jitsu is the “gentle art”.

[@vaughanmacegan4012]

@@BenWeeks-ca Well, Jitsu means "truth" not art , so, you got that wrong and "Ju" can mean a variety of things Soft/Gentle/Flexible among others. But this 'Jiu' means jack all! So nonsense truth?!? So, my question is why?

[@BenWeeks-ca]

@@vaughanmacegan4012 There's different translations for things I guess according to which source you look at.

[@vaughanmacegan4012]

@@BenWeeks-ca No, Jitsu and Jutsu are different words. The closest meaning I came to Jiu that I came across was in india not sure if it was Sanskrit/Prakrit or other, and it was "girl" so "girl truth"?!?

[@cbo955]

Judo is yang Jiu Jitsu is yin

[@sergiosapori]

Jiu jitsu and judo are the same thing in the same coin. One needs the other. And as I always say: Gracie jitsu is judo for street fighting.

[@youknowme1475]

Unless it’s more than one involved

[@marcingrabkowski1054]

Yes. For sure. When most of the street thugs carry a knife... Great moronic statement. Too many movies bro. Watch some channels like "Active-self protection" and stop spreading bullshit.

[@cristhianmontero9537]

Judo dont need jujitsu, Judo CREATE jujitusu... and Judo in street is better than jujitsu. I would say jujitsu is made for a mma fight.

[@jaredmackey4511]

⁠@@cristhianmontero9537Judo is a form of jujutsu.

[@safdarkh786]

Far from true. Bjj is good. But relying heavily on newaza is not going to end well in da streetz.

[@iandavies6575]

A decent Judoka shouldn't be taken down by a leg grab

[@JIUJITSUMAN22]

No exactly the same art. BJJ is a mix of judo, wich catch wrestling, Luta livre esportiva, and even Capoeira.

[@ThaSilentOne420]

BJJ = Newaza/Kosen Judo

[@CJ1776]

They should bring original judo back this is bs nonetheless!!!

[@neocloudmarts9613]

Both is Judo

[@ДмитрийФролов-к2г]

что т о бразилы крупнее!

[@combatprinciplesmma]

Everybody should have 2 upper body throws, a single leg and a double leg

[@drevdh7645]

BJJ is a hype. True Japanese jitistu is king IF trained well. Judo (part of JJJ) will destroy BJJ.

[@JEFFMAN90]

Sure fool whatever you say

[@kennethrogers1129]

Kano wanted judo to be fit for police work, so the skills had to be mostly stand up and make arrests. Walk them to jail. Not wallow around on the ground