Gracie BULLYPROOF - "Verbal Jiu-Jitsu"

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Gracie Bullyproof is proven system designed to teach children how to deal with persistent bullies. The Gracie Bullyproof program effectively addresses the psychological, verbal, and physical aspects of bullying and has been featured on CNN, NBC, and Oprah.com as one of the only reliable counter-measures to bullying. Unlike other martial arts which teach violent punches and kicks, the Gracie Bullyproof program utilizes non-violent control holds which are only used as a last option against a physically assaultive bully. While other programs may make children more aggressive, the Gracie Bullyproof program promotes non-violence through respect, discipline and compassion.
Originally, the Gracie Bullyproof program was only taught at select Certified Training Centers around the world, but now, the complete program is available on DVD (www.GracieBullyproof.com) so that parents can empower their children from the comfort of their own homes. To see testimonials of parents who have "bullyproofed" their children from home, click here: graciekids.com/testimonials.aspx
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To learn more about the Gracie Bullyproof program or to find a Certified Training Center near you, go to: www.GracieBullyproof.com
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[@eternalrest2859]

How do I apply this lesson to my wife?

[@JackIsNotInTheBox]

TACKLE!

[@fusion772]

Say "do you want to divorce me?"

[@FolkeBernadotte2]

Lol. A wife's bullying is like a war on terror. It lasts for years and you have to win hearts and minds.

[@erukun3055]

Twister

[@bailey7095]

you just have to submit yourself to her wim. its been 4 years so who knows what happened. the only way to survive marriage is by taking a knee. there can be no victory for married men. lol jk

[@UklaTheMokk]

Even if I knew nothing of Gracie Jiu Jitsu, the fact that the Gracie family put out this video, to me, establishes an indescribable amount of respect for the Gracie family and their true motivation for teaching their art that it makes me want to start studying GJJ. Having been bullied many times growing up, this video truly warms my heart. I can't say enough. Much respect to the Gracie family. At the age of 38, my goal now is to start GJJ and not stop until I get my black belt.

[@TheGunnyBadger03xx]

How did it go?

[@devinkiser1256]

If he keeps bullying you, that's when you might have to attack him first. The consequence could be bad, yes, but would you rather be suspended for a couple of days or deal with bullying for months more? Fighting is never good, but sometimes it is the answer. That's the simple fact. Thanks Rener for these awesome videos

[@kennethcurtis1856]

Sometimes 'war' is the peaceful solution.

[@X581jr]

I have been working with troubled kids for years. We have found the best way to counter a bully is to make it clear to the bully that their verbal attacks are insignificant to you. Or that it makes the bully lose face. Most bullies are looking for affirmation of self worth. Still, if a bully cant overpower someone verbally, it usually gets physical. So a child should still be ready to defend him or herself.

[@TheReapersSon]

These guys are awesome. They are the "dudes" of Martial Arts. So much wisdom in an an enlightened, enjoyable format.

[@mathdreamerpi]

I just ordered the DVD set. I can't wait to get it. As a teacher in middle school and as a parent, it gives me a solid solution to a problem. When I say a solid solution I mean a certain sequence in how to handle bullying. Good stuff !!!

[@mathdreamerpi]

I agree. I am a blue belt, which I received from Ryron and Rener. I took kickboxing for 14 months before jiu-jitsu and found that I didn't feel confident in protecting myself. I feel much more confident. My son already knows some moves from watching me at the adult classes. The BullyProof set will teach me how to teach my child in a way that will not turn him off.

[@MixMasterNutGaming]

I wish I knew juijitsu back in highschool.

[@shadowki1647]

I wish I knew Jujitsu back in nursery, elementary, and high school. In college due to the workload and the payments, there's usually no bulljive.

[@christineo4028]

that was truly awesome. thank you

[@SeabrookMartialArtsAcademy]

This is absolutely awesome!

[@iMaKeUsHoOk]

this is actually the best advice to give to children who are younger and get bullied too much. i've seen some kid grapplers sparring, they're no joke. but this is a humane way of solving a serious and ongoing issue. may even prevent the kid who's being bullied from getting serious psychological problems later in life. but there's a slight prob with this: bullies usually have a crew that will jump in and grapplin aint gonna help against mad people

[@deboyskyswuzzz]

So, how many lesson should I follow in a week to become confident in my bjj skills?

[@revanslacey]

What if, in response to the challenge, the bully says "Yes I'm challenging you to a fight" and they then tell you a place and time in the future, or if they say "yes and I'll attack you when you are least expecting it" thus still keeping control of the situation. Would it be better to take the challenge itself as an act of aggression and take action in the moment?

[@illusionxmuta]

No. You learn jiu-jitsu when he brings the fight to you.

[@knowledgeisthepower1]

These guys are grt role models 2 kids!!

[@OVERCAPITALIZE]

@neabzmma Haha, you can look it up on barns and noble or any other bookstore.

[@peazythatsmeazy]

Cheers to that, brother!

[@rdurl5086]

Fundamentally the concept is right, bring out and confront what's being insinuated in the background with put downs, however of course- you have to be ready to fight and have a reasonable chance. Interesting idea also BTW to apply this at work with business bullies (and then be ready to 'fight' the business way)...

[@thesoultap5361]

Wow.

[@ojay67]

what does jiujitsu mean?

[@Can-O-Bees]

@1381bloccmonsta Why not Red?

[@revanslacey]

"If you want to fight me I'm not afraid of you" still has fear embedded within the sentence. I wonder if "If you want to fight me I will hurt you" might have more power?

[@Mxracer6y]

@cburcinc I will agree with most of what you said. The gracie brothers also acknowledge this, you would know that if you paid attention. They never said kids are bullied because they can't fight.. This is a direct quote from one of them "When a child is confident and has high self esteem, bullies tend not to pick on them because the bully feels that they dont have that same power advantage or that fear advantage over the victim" The bully proof program was to inspire self confidence.

[@ramrod20042000]

These guys are amazing! So simple but yet so effective. Look a bully in his eyes and ask "Are you challenging me to a fight?" Bullies pick on kids they believe are weak. If they feel you can fight and might hurt them. They will back down 95% of the time. You might have to defend yourself. Only once to gain a reputation. Then you will never be bothered again.

[@happyicecream1234]

I wish these guys had their own talk show. "Tackle. "...Tackle." "Tackle." "Wow." Just great.

[@tunahump143]

kind of a slippery slope... in schools now .... could lead to either a group beat down or worse they pull a weapon.. I can see someone saying that and then they get shot in the chest or stabbed

[@pipo00002]

but what about if the bully know Jujitsu or other kind of way how to fight ? thts more scared because He`s more preparate than You . How I should be mental againts that ?

[@lumberchicken007]

yes, i suppose a kid's competency in a martial art would instill a level of confidence in fighting ability. i'm glad to see that bullying isn't quite as hot of a media topic now-a-days.

[@lucubration808]

its in the proving grounds and refining stages right now... so its either in pre fail or pre win right now

[@grizzzler]

This is brilliant! This cuts through the bullshit, no shouting, no arguing, no squaring up, just "do you want to fight me or not?" Much better than the "just ignore him" advice you usually get from touch feely social worker types who probably get bullied themselves. I'd use a slightly different follow up line though, i'd say "if you want to fight me then do something, or are you a pussy?" So either he has to fight you or he ends up losing face. That would draw the line better IMO.

[@lucaslucas24]

@UklaTheMokk It's never to late, we've got a guy in our gym, he's 54 and about to receive his purple belt, go for it, it's truly fun, and the Gracie family is highly respectable.

[@waterfordel]

@ojay67 Has anyone responded to you? I can tell you that the original term "Ju-Jutsu" means "art of giving way". Ju means "gentle". Jutsu means "art". The Gentle Art is what practitioners coin it. Please understand that in this case, gentle is not necessarily weak.

[@NikLagua]

@holywar911 1st the winner of the fight is the one that avoids the fight 2nd fighting is the last thing you have to do but first you have to try to do things to make the bully stop if not then you fight

[@TheWealthBuildingJourney]

Physical dominance is borne of MENTAL dominance.

[@jlEmilio94]

@1GUNJAM1 Ok...Im pretty sure nobody understood what u just said...

[@burana96]

But why is the logo on the t-shirt in the middle?

[@burana96]

+Ballsdeep Singh It just doesn't look that good.

[@choke.dealer4656]

+burana96 it's so the logo can still be seen when worn under your Gi

[@burana96]

+Logan Yuen You make a fair point sir.

[@xxTricky]

@SSWarrior77Channel GJJ is meant to teach someone how to defend themselves against a larger, stronger, more athletic attacker in a real street fight situation. If you train hard and actually dedicate yourself to the training you will be able to take on a stronger opponent easily

[@dirkbikeman1001]

@nikki171923 I understand what you're saying but sometimes you just gotta throw the first punch and fight the bully if they want to or not

[@Xylot]

THIS is the kind of martial arts that my parents should have tried to get me into as a kid.

[@X581jr]

The school I work at is an Alternative Learning Center. It is a school for criminal children. Where the doors are magnetically locked, drill sergeants and truancy officers roam the halls, teachers carry taser guns and the desk are bolted to the floor. We don't have 4 or 5 bullies in our school, we have 1200. I agree that sometimes you got to lay down the law, but if you START with violence then you credit their ability to bully you emotionally. This is what I've done for a living for 14 years.

[@YTR0009]

what if he says yes and ask u to make the move first?

[@josequins9099]

Start before he finished speaking.

[@juandenz2008]

What if the Bully also trains jiu-jitsu or MMA ? Also I'm not convinced by the premise that the bully doesn't want to fight. When I was at highschool the bullies loved to fight. In fact my observation is that it is a significant size advantage that gives people the power to be a bully. Smaller individuals who aren't that tough are rarely bullies. Why because as soon as they started to bully someone they would get their butt kicked.

[@matthewray5343]

As my coach used to tell me "regardless of how this fight goes, you will respect me when it's done". Bullies pick on people because they can get away with it. If you stand up to them and put up a fight they now see that there is actual trouble involved when they bully you. Regardless if they beat you or not they now know there is going to be an struggle on their part and the insults will no longer be worth it.

[@Manny1222]

The comment made me LOL. This is why I love the Gracies, they bring hilarious (stupid) people together. xD No but really, you're all awesome.

[@cemke7121]

What if the bully is better in fighting than you... and btw it doesnt mean he will attack you right after they accept the challange.... but they might put up thier hands and say "cmon lets fight" or something like that

[@Tentacl]

@bighefjeff If you're having problems at work, it's a little more complicated (in legal terms), because you're not underage. You might have better results simply warning the bully you're gonna sue (and go ahead and sue in case he doesn't stop) or something. Anyway, replying the question doesn't change a thing. ANY answer but yes will, for practical matters, equal no, specially if someone else watch the discussion.

[@hazard2000]

yes, I know what you mean bullys do try to do this kind of thing when you ask them that, my mom told me to ask the same thing because I got bullied alot because she was a traveling nurse so I had to change schools alot, after the first time I asked a bully to fight and they laughed at me I told my mom, and she said ask him again tommorrow and while hes laughing punch him, so I did, he didnt fight me actually he told the teacher! but, my point is physical confrontation is the only way to stop it

[@xxTricky]

@nbohli1 no, Ryron and Rener GRACIE practice their families system GRACIE Jiu Jitsu which is the original street self defense form of their Martial Art, Brazillian Jiu Jitsu was what was created out of their system to make it a competitive sport for MMA grappling against other skilled grapplers

[@xxTricky]

@IRONHAUS no, Gracie Jiu Jitsu, a BJJ school teaches jitsu techniques but it does not teach the application in a street fight, GJJ is specified for fighting on the streets in a pure self defense situation not against other jiu jitsu fighters just trying to be better than them, GJJ trains street specific until blue belt than afterwards they start training for against other grapplers

[@Mxracer6y]

@cburcinc And with self confidence comes social skills. It's a win win situation.

[@Citharn]

Theoretically (I'm not being bullied), what if the bully says "no, I'm not challenging you" and then keeps bullying you? Since the bully never attacks you you can't do anything.

[@jakegage69]

Then ask them to walk by a corner away from their friends and yours and ask them as of you're asking for help, "hey I need to talk to you about something. And don't look at them in the eye yet. Say " hey man I need you to help me out with something." And let them ask you what's up a few times, make them work for it. Then drop the bomb, look straight at them and say "I need you to stop making fun of me, I need you to stop calling me names, I need you to stop pushing me." Then when they joke around, dance around, maybe bully you more, stand your ground and don't stop staring at them. Then say "do you understand me yes or no." If yes then awesome, repeat this process if it continues. If they say no then ask "then are you challenging me to a fight?"

[@tomigun6913]

I'd switch role and play the part of the bully and start going Rickson Gracie on them.

[@nayachik]

bullies project fear by physical violence so when you ask that magical question they would have already scaled your physical strength witch makes the question nothing but a taunt that make the bully pick on you more and more with enjoyment.

[@grizzzler]

@SSWarrior77Channel Long term solution = Learn Gracie Jiu-Jitus Short term solution = Use verbal jiu-jitsu and if he challenges you then fight him. Even if you get beaten up keep fighting back, like Rylon says bullies will bully you if you make it easy, even if he's stronger than you he won't keep bullying you if he has to keep getting into fights every time he does. Being a fighter is not only about fighting people you can beat up, but fighting people who can beat you up. Never back down.

[@nnnbbbmmm79]

@nikki171923 Yes, I agree with you that the bully will often be cunning in their responses and keep the upper hand by laughing at you. These guys are very positive and have some good points, but their seems to be great importance on mastering the ju-jitsu before you can back off a bully. Normally a bully has some distinct physical AND MENTAL advantage over you. I never did solve the bully puzzle. THis is a great idea that could work as the foundation for a more complete system of anti-bully.

[@Elosbyuri]

what if he's much bigger than me ?

[@claudggel]

I used to be made fun of in my life many times from guys I considered to be my friends. It was really hard for me, because it wasn't a nice way of making fun. And I always tried to stop it by challenging them, but they just played it of by telling me I couldn't defend myself with words and that I had no sense of humour, which made me look even more stupid. I guess I got rid of this problem by not getting angry so easily anymore, but in other situations you're approach can be helpfull I guess.

[@OneShotMakeItCount]

Tough luck on that one, Good luck with that. *Slowly backs away hoping Silva don't see me*

[@justadude1331]

@OVERCAPITALIZE Didn't think anyone else would have heard of this. It's funny how Judo is so overlooked.

[@reggae9ninja]

@cburcinc the confidence that person displays when they learn bjj is unparralleled....people can tell you're not afraid of them and generally won't even bother you.. why do you think they had strong social bonds with their brothers and friends? maybe because of......TRAINING???!!! why wouldn't you want your child to know effective and practical self-defense? Martial arts teaches way more than physical skills. The lack of friends or social skills can also be solved through training!

[@Nerstow]

@logybomb: that is unlikely when you have made it clear to them and all the other kids you are down to fight but they are afraid of you. bully will always go for easiest target. not the kid punking him out.

[@gutrupture]

i couldnt stop laughing when i read your comment. so true

[@dollydog5]

We are going to enroll in the Bullyproof problem. Sadly, talking to the parents only made things worse. Their child "would never" and "we don't believe you." They are so interested in saving face and keeping up appearances, they deny deny deny, even though their kid isn't allowed in other people's houses, and other parents see the behavior. The only solution is for my kid to be bullyproof.

[@Mxracer6y]

@cburcinc Not just to build self confidence but at the same time teach them self defense so they can protect and defend themselves if the bullying ever becomes physical. Being able to stand up and defend yourself from injury in a physical confrontation is an invaluable asset for a child to have. I'm sorry buddy but you just can't teach social skills, you either have them or you don't. Its not that easy. But you sure can teach a kid to protect himself, which builds self confidence.

[@mallrat1945]

you guys should have a fucking TV show

[@mmamecca]

@bighefjeff Probably say, No i am not challenging you to a fight. But if you are challenging me I am not scared of you.

[@xxTricky]

@nayachik in this program they aren't teaching you boxing or muay thai or any striking self defense that requires you to be faster or stronger than your opponent to beat them, they are teaching you Gracie Jiu Jitsu which relies on intelligence, discipline, patience, and technique. GJJ is the chess master's martial art not the jock's martial art. Royce Gracie was the smallest and most unassuming(looked weakest) of the Gracies and he destroyed much heavier strikers in UFCs 1-3

[@chessdrummer]

Bully doesn't want to fight? I disagree. I was a bully and beat the crap out of some classmates. One was bigger, but I was much faster. I would rain blows on him or jump on his back to rear naked choke him. The reason I stopped was because someone told him to fight back. In one case, I wrestled one guy and it was apparent someone taught him something. In another, I insisted that the guy fight me back. He was timid, but finally hit me back. I praised him. He is now a Police Sergeant in Chicago.

[@gutrupture]

lmfao. epic comments mate. love ya work. 'everyone understands violence'. yep, its some universal shit.

[@KristopherBlair]

they could always just ignore your words and continue to pester you

[@Nerstow]

In kindergarten a kid bullied me for awhile and I went the route telling yard duty, my teacher, etc. and nothing worked. So my dad asked me if I was bigger than him and I said yes, dad told me to punch him. I was such a nice kid it just never occured to me to beat up a kid for hassling me, even if he was smaller. Well kicking his ass worked! Rest of school years I was always too tough a target for a bully, always an easier one. the weak get hassled by the immature/unconfident, such is life.

[@danieltheteacher]

1. I started driving so that stopped my being chased and getting beat up in Chicago (for racist attacks back in the 1980s, age 10- 16) 2. At 30 I challenged a coworker to a fight.. and neither one of us wanted to stay 3 hours or come in 3 hours early so we could fight...but he also told another co-worker: "What if?" meaning what if he lost against me.. he stopped bothering me then.

[@costazurra]

I wish i live in USA and my kid can go to Gracie bjj

[@thatkid1396]

@GsxR750Speedemon almost always someone who picks a fight with you, aren't experienced reason being is because if you are an experienced fighter, u don't need to bully to feel confidant. As long as u have been training and know what to do then you will be fine. Also people involved in the martial arts learn discipline and respect towards others. Watching ufc and mma and bjj doesnt mean someone will know what they are doing, you will only know what you're doing if you actually do a martial art.

[@devil_mlt]

interesting ... :)

[@AmbicionEterna]

Much respect to you guys and everyone here. However, I disagree on this approach in schools with a lot of gang violence, or where kids have access to weaponry. Here, confrontation may lead to death. Otherwise, I love the strategy.

[@snamone]

Ok that was very cool, and these guys have to be the most animated Gracies ever, they make Barney look borring.

[@dasfisch21]

This is the only type of Jiu Jitsu black belt that Chael Sonnen will ever have.

[@hazard2000]

yes, ive never had problems with a bully after being physical with them even if they were bigger than me ( in one case there was almost a 90 pound difference )

[@DOMDZ90911]

dude just hyper extending the joints can cause a lot of pain and stress, so at that point you would either submit or get injured. Most of the time being in a very uncomfortable situation would make you tense and nervous that you will be left with absolutely no choice but to cooperate. It's in human psychology. Still, you'd rather talk the bully out rather than be forced to that situation.

[@bretaddison4146]

what if your a guy and the bulley is a girl ?

[@juandenz2008]

+Bret Addison Well hopefully the girl isn't as tough as Ronda Rousey ! LOL.

[@barryb4407]

@@juandenz2008 Use the equality card.

[@josequins9099]

Call her fat.

[@Makron5]

I fucking wish I knew that line. It would have saved me a lot of turmoil.

[@dirkbikeman1001]

@nikki171923 For example (to carry on to what you're saying) "then don't waste my time" "If you dont want to fight me then stop giving me shit because im done with it" then if they do say something smart ass I would just start the fight

[@kidgracie1923]

@cburcinc buddy the concept of gracie bullyproof is to teach kids how to defend themselves if needed. it boost the kids self esteem and makes them more social. no we dont want the kids to hit the gym we just want them to be involved with this program and jiu jitsu. its obvious youv never done jiu jitsu because you have no idea how much more confident it makes you and how much more social you become.

[@HybridDragons]

@bighefjeff Two ways out. "Yes, I'm challenging you". Or "No. I'm asking you a question, are you deaf? I asked if you want to fight me, not told you that I want to fight you, clean out your ears."

[@TheChoada]

I got a call BS on this one. You're telling children to use this "verbal" jujitsu, assuming that they have "mastered" BJJ? You do see the hole in this logic right?

[@hazard2000]

@mathdreamerpi if you want a solution to the problem put your kids in gracie Jiu-jitsu or a martial art dont put them in Karate, Taekwondo, kungfu, etc because these martial arts take to long to learn to use effectively, chances are just the fact that people know your child is learning jiu-jitsu is enough that they wouldnt want to fight/tease them, jiu-jitsu is a great martial art for kids becasue after even 3 or 4 lessons you have learned much more than in a year of karate

[@CheyneSt0king]

Sounds good, but unless bullies have changed in the last 40 years, I suspect the answer remains as it always has been. You will get no respect until and unless you make them bleed. Quick and overwhelming is best.

[@JayMM117]

Well shit, son, you sure got them.

[@mr.miyagii__]

assault charges? fines? school expelled? ect.

[@Scouserrrr08]

When you fight the bully, it would be very strange for him to continue the bullying. It's human nature. It's humans primitive instinct to fight. The confrontation will steer him away.

[@DosBoxTurbo]

Every school I know has a "NO TOLERANCE" policy against fights. Whether you or the bully start the fight, BOTH students will be expelled. Most of the time, the bully has less to lose over an expulsion than the "A" student.

[@kennethcurtis1856]

So, you are going to let some kid keep kicking your butt or make you feel like a weed growing in a cow manure field. Sometimes 'war' is the peaceful solution.

[@redrobin723]

you should never take your eyes off your adversary and you should always know with whom you are dealing dont ever dout therm they will keep doing it untill they succeed in destroying you stop the abuse before it stops you

[@Arod11Bravo]

Wow, this clearly shows the capacity that Jiu Jitsu has in adptation to new scenarios. In Brasil there's none of this "do you wanna fight me?" bs. Mofos wronged you, meet at the end of school day and kick his ass. I guess that you say that so you can claim defense and not be liable when the school/parents/law comes after you. When I was a kid, the recipe was simple: baiana>montada>costas>mata-leao

[@mickeyford]

LMFAO!!

[@JKT6]

@nikki171923 flying armbar bro.... flying armbar

[@kyledelaney1650]

When it comes to Bully's like child abusers, there is one thing I can see coming a mile a way and that is a coward who would wet themselves if they ever met up with a Real Fighter, like a Trained Martial Artiste, I think that if you can teach kids to see through A bully then you can teach them that they don't have to be afraid of these Cowards! Because that is all a Bully is a Coward!

[@lumberchicken007]

@muzik313 if it's 9 times out of 10, then learning bjj isn't necessary. these guys attempting to sell 'gracie bullyproof" is a humorous angle though.

[@adilsafir]

They will say yes because they're already confident they can beat the 'receiver', and nowadays peaple will recognise the trigger signs and just push the receiver reach that melting point whenever they can and just leave them to burn, then bring more bullies for when they want to challenge the bullied, It happened to me like that, when I said 'I'm not scared of you' I got jumped by 13 kids in a rush gang, they said I could join after being rushed but I just thought that was too similar to cannibal gangs in akra that my dad used to talk about that roamed akra at night about the time my dad left Ghana, in 1955: so I didn't befriend them then. What actually worked after 2 years or three of bullying was This: Bully is messing with my stuff knocking pencils of my table one by one in class, So I just swiped everything off his table while saying "who do you think you are!" And just sat back and stared at him in the eyes like "your ridiculous" for three seconds. He just burst out laughing and repeated "who do you think you are! " that I responded to the threat but NOT in a way that he could re-establish dominance from the past e.g in physical confrontation which he would win, but in his own silly game of looking for a reaction and knocking stuff off the desk. So the idea is, understand their game, whether it's looking for a reaction or respect (usually the physical tough ones) Then play their game in order to win. It's hard to understand and play thier game but if you do that you can earn thier respect enough for them to leave you alone, forever. Anyone who isn't in your day to day life you can just say 'don't waste my time.'

[@icesin05]

call uncle chael

[@ramrod20042000]

@ticosexy22 Verbal Jui Jitsu works. You should always try to talk it out first. Don't let some bully make your life a living hell! Ask him to stop first..then make him stop!

[@hi9313]

Sorry for being ignorant. I'll learn to read at some point, thanks for that. I think you have to relax your 'taking things literally-meter', if you replace 'perfect' with the word 'have some experience' then I don't see how the alternative which is no experience can be worse (whether you agree with their salesmanship or not). If you are afraid that kids will be lured into a false sense of security- maybe, but they have a chance to end the misery which I think will happen even if they lose.

[@tinalafermy]

In my experiance getting physical is usually best. Bullys only bully the weak ones, it sucks, but thats just the way it is. They know they can get away with it. Now the bullys are very clever in selecting their target, they are actually unaware of themselves even doing it. I have heard a lot of stuff like "talk to them" or "tell the teacher". Fuck. That. Shit You eed tyo suck it up and knock the fuck out that bully. Everyone understands violence.