GRAND CRU vs 1er CRU BURGUNDY Is there a Difference in TASTE???

[@Jonnhy99]

I like how you and Konstantin Baum dropped Burgundy stuff on the same day 😊

[@rodjacobs3396]

Lol, I saw that too. But KZbin knows me well and gave me this video first.

[@WWSReviews]

I think the smaller channels try and post right after the bigger channels to try and piggyback off being suggested after people have watched the bigger channels video.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

We didn't coordinate, it was a coincidence!

[@gustavomgomes]

Really a great video ! And it show how blind tastings are the real thing ! When one know what is drinking one tend to choose with a different angle. What you did was amazingly difficult : you tasted 4 Chablis from the same producer blind . That was not an upset ! Was an eye opener ! Thanks a lot ❤

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks for your comments as always!

[@dantheman8279]

Enjoy your authenticity and honesty with your blind tastings! Excellent video.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thank you

[@royrosas118]

This is why I love to listen to your blinds - authentic reaction!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Yes I learn a ton from doing these too.

[@dr7246]

Much respect for the honest transparency!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks!

[@rodjacobs3396]

I always enjoy your honesty. And want to point out something you've mentioned before as well. A lot of times how we feel about a wine can change from day to day, dependent on mood and many other factors. And I can't remember if this is something you've said or if I've heard it elsewhere. But sometimes there can be a bias to the first wine tried in a tasting, especially blind.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Yes, I always try to take that into account. That's why I went back and tasted them again before revealing (I don't always keep that in the edits)

[@michaell7097]

Love it!! Keeping it real. I suspect that Chablis may be in a transitional place right now with climate change such that lesser sites benefit from more heat and so the distinctions may blur. Thanks for this vid

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks for watching! It is an interesting time for Chablis

[@itsmederek1]

What a great video! I know its disappointing not getting it right but you not being able to tell accurately is actually useful information to consumers. It also bolsters trust that the videos are authentic, as people who are willing to honestly blind taste on youtube are frankly in short supply. You uploading this shows you have character and makes me an even bigger fan.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks so much for this... I learn a ton from doing these videos too.

[@SimonJaffe]

I love your videos. Great style of presenting and tremendously honest. I’ve experienced similar with dry Rieslings.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thank you! Ohhhh Riesling is my jammmm!

[@alopezcepero]

Love your honesty & the fact you call them as you see them. This why I watch your content!! Great channel! 👍👍

[@drmatthewhorkey]

😬🙏🙏🙏

[@tostman333]

That was an exciting one with a pinch of drama, so my comment is to support and thank you for these efforts! 👏👍🤗

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I appreciate the comment!

[@enthusiastic_amateur]

I have done exactly this kind of blind tasting before, many times. Outcomes many times same as yours especially in Burgundy. It is always a fun learning experiment and certainly humbling!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Blind tasting is always humbling

[@oxvaldus]

The fact that its difficult to find the difference between 1er, grand cru and straight Chablis is excellent news for us consumers hahah

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Hahaha it might not always be the case depending on personal taste, producer, and bottle age

[@koensteeland9057]

Excellent ! Recognizable and indeed, authentic. Keep it going.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thank you!

[@BeeYksrr]

I put the basic Chablis from La Chablisienne as Premier Cru in a blind tasting. It's a stunning value wine at the moment.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Agreed! A helluva wine for around $30

[@waynecoultas9678]

I enjoy how you’re honest. Cheers.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thank you

[@JonBLodi]

Thanks again for keeping it real! And, yes, there really aren't that many people who have developed the experience and have the palate sensitivity to be able to tell these wines apart.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Burgundy is a whole other animal when it comes to the subtleties...

[@JonBLodi]

Yes! And there is the reason there are books and books and books about Burgundy!@@drmatthewhorkey

[@duncanwmaxwell]

Love the honesty in this, ultimately good wine is one that connects with you regardless of its price or reputation 👏🏼

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Correct! Wine is all about how it moves you.

[@welshtoro3256]

Very enjoyable review and all of those wines sounded enjoyable too. Wine and wine prices have to make you laugh.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

After a certain price point, cost doesn't always equal the best quality for sure.

[@ghettobougieahjoomab8663]

Awesome video! Loved it. Please do another with a red.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

VERY hard to get Red Burgundy samples

[@stroopwafel6141]

This is why I like your blind tastings. Superhonest and authentic. The basic Chablis would be my buy. I don't taste much wines from Burgundy, as prices have gone through the roof.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

You’ll enjoy your choice!

[@pedroguimaraes7643]

Nice and corageous video. Blind tasting Burgundy classifications is always tricky. Many times the lower classified wines are either plushier and/or more upfront than the more noble classified wines, which can play the right hand in a blind tasting. I had a similar experience with a Sauzet blind tasting.....the Bourgogne stole the show against the less giving higher classified cousins. The shop owner said they just needed more time to show their qualities.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Also, the Cru wines due tend to be better with age. I can't wait 10 years to taste these though on video hahaha

[@nichotime]

You aint wrong! Love your honest correct responses. Burgundy is gambling!! Great Burgundy is usually a rare surprise. Vineyards that taste the same year after year are the expensive ones, because of distinction, not really just quality. Chablis really depends on the warmth of the vintage and is changing fast (as global warming). These days cheap wines can be way good. Vineyard studies are library stuff. Love your show!!!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks for watching!

[@marknelson8724]

I was not surprised by your blind tasting results. You are working with wines on the more expensive side that are definitely capable of improving with age and they are not all from the same vintage. At least they were from the same producer. I will now tell dozens of anecdotes about myself where I failed in a blind tasting, or should I just tell the ones that make me sound amazing?

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Hahaha blind tasting is always a funny thing

[@whitelightning2291]

Thanks so much for this! Fascinating to watch and obviously a huge challenge. Who are your favorite chablis producers and what do you like about them? I've yet to find vineyards and producers I really love so this video was perfectly timed. That's my favorite glass too!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

This one along with the two flagship estates of the region, which I mentioned on video

[@gingerboxer7470]

Nice to see you get it wrong sometimes but not so nice too see your disappointment. I do love your honesty. I dont do white wine too often and cant remember when i had a glass of Chablis.Think I'll go wine shopping this weekend. Good video,Cheers

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thank you! Great screename btw haha

[@gingerboxer7470]

😁

[@kristianjohannes]

This is a really cool concept to taste different qualities from the same producer!!! I’m gonna seek out that 95 point wine, seems like amazing value!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Beautiful wine it is!

[@Matt_Bykowski]

Hi Dr. Horkey, thanks for another great video. I have good take-aways and entertainment value. You're enthusiasm makes these videos shine. On more note, you do a great job editing and packaging these up for us viewers. I'm sure you are spitting during most of these tastings, not watching that, makes these way more enjoyable. Thanks for putting all the time and effort into these.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thank YOU! That was a great comment as I do put a TON into these

[@Matt_Bykowski]

@@drmatthewhorkey it shows. Thank you.

[@pjyothi6533]

Would the grand cru have needed more time in glass or bottle to show properly vs the 1er?

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Possibly but also possibly not. I just did a blind tasting w friends of 1er and Grand Cru Red Burgundies and the 1er crus we had were more enjoyable

[@denniscollier4437]

Just shows the advantages of the "villages" approach, where you can use different vineyards to source grapes, and create a better wine.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Blending is the secret sauce to nearly all wines 🤫😉

[@HaiJieDiong]

Are all Chablis unoaked?

[@drmatthewhorkey]

No, the higher end ones barrel ferment at least some of the wine.

[@Dauvissat]

2019 is quite an excellent vintage for Chablis personally, checks all the right boxes and has a great balance of just enough opulence and not a low acidity warm vintage like 2018, but has enough body, acidity to counter the richness and make it enjoyable at this moment. With 5 years bottle age this makes some of the more structured 1er and Grand Cru's approachable, but also can age a bit longer (though not like the classic 2014s that can last a lot longer). If you ever get a chance, blind different climats of 1er cru's, same vintage, that way you can be amazed by the variations. Pick some more minerally ones, left and right of Serein river, throw in a climat in proximity to a Grand Cru site (Montee de Tonerre) , and pick a flag bearing climat 1er cru and throw in also a sub climat (e.g. Butteaux / Foret against Montmains which is flag bearing, ie a wine made from grapes from Butteaux or Foret can be called Montmains, or their respective vineyard, but Montmains can come from grapes anywhere within Butteaux, Foret, and Montmains). There are some 1ers that don't see any oak (not even neutral) and some that are a bit more oak forward (even if neutral). Though the challenge is to find a producer that has access to all these different vineyards and bottles them (or just pick different producers to throw things off more). Then try with Grand Cru's separately which would be just as fun. La Chablisienne might have enough bottlings to make this blind tasting challenge affordable too.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Chablis and Burgundy at large never fails to fascinate thanks to its complexities. Thanks!

[@someoneelse2262]

I've found grand cru chablis takes a really long time to come into its own. Sometimes a premier will taste better for the first five+ years.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Agreed, the Cru wines will probably be more fabulous with time in the bottle

[@oxvaldus]

Love la chablissiene wine, outstanding cooperative wines

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Yessss

[@someoneelse2262]

thanks for being honest with these tasting by the way. It's really refreshing. And yes, blind tasting makes us all humble, no matter how much wine we have sampled! But that's also what's fun. And the fact that you might have completely different notes on a different day is also kind of wild. I love Chablis--though climate change is having a drastic effect on what these wines taste like, which I think is also part of what you are experiencing. These aren't the Chablis wines of the 80s and 90s...

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Blind tasting is fun indeed!

[@hermiloborba8488]

What glass do you use?

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Glass and link in description box

[@hermiloborba8488]

@@drmatthewhorkey Thank you

[@rnjbond]

Did you and Konstantin Baum time dropping two videos on DRC and Burgundy the same day?

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I saw that! We didn't coordinate it either.

[@damayor62]

Blinds are blinds... Try the same blind tomorrow and see how you score them. I haven't tried a Chablis in way too long. Thank you for the various option$ to try and keep up the great work.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Agreed, blind tasting is a funny thing - or tasting in general. It's a lot about where we are mentally in that given moment.

[@joesantamaria5874]

Remember, please, that Chablisienne is a cooperative, so by definition their Bourgogne and Chablis village (at minimum) will come from several grape growers and plots. Their basic Chablis is one of my favorites! We concur on the Chateau Grenouilles, high price and just good performance. For higher end wines, I far prefer Mont de Milieu and Montee de Tonnerre from William Fevre.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

💪🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@hottuna2006]

Found another wine I'll have to seek out thanks to you.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thank you for checking out the vid

[@robertfenti3996]

Good video you are right Village Burgundy can be where the value is

[@drmatthewhorkey]

They can be fantastic, although they can also be disappointing at times.

[@robertfenti3996]

Robert Parker was not on the good side of Burgundy producers but Parker was spot on.

[@mikaelplaysguitar]

Bear with me here while I try to come up with a cheerleading chant... "Honesty, Transparency, Matthew Horkey!" I think it might catch on.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

LOLOL

[@bernardfontaine9576]

Clearly a difficult tasting as Chablis tends to be more pleasant when aging. The main difficulty comes from the fact that these wines are from the same vintage. Often, Chablis needs more time to open itself, to be really enjoyable. The first cru can take 5-10 years to be ready but the grand cru needs 10-15 years to develop its potential. So no stress… My best Chablis was a Dauvissat village from 2014 : what a year for Chablis ! Have a nice day.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

A lot of valid points here! Dauvissat... ohhhh sooo good

[@fredericperrin3279]

White Burgundy can be very good value for money. This tasting in fact proves it, it also proves that paying up is generally not worth it. Few people seem to know or realize that Burgundy is 70% white, 30% red. Since the most hyped up wines tend to be red, you end up over-paying for red Burgundy, but can find good value in whites. It's a bit the opposite in Bordeaux, which is 90% red. Given that Bordeaux production is 4x Burgundy and given the mix difference, it means that there are about 12x more red Bordeaux in the market than red Burgundy. That simple maths explains, in my opinion, why red Bordeaux is much better value than red Burgundy. In white, the production level are almost the same, hence the value is also closer.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Yes the low quantity and high demand for the reds keeps many of us out of the market for them

[@Le_Chambertin]

Producer plays a big role in burgundy

[@drmatthewhorkey]

And ALL wine

[@kairodumba7924]

Hi Dr Horkey, what are your thoughts on Château des Tours Brouilly 2018?

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Haven't tasted it

[@50somethinglawyer]

Parker clearly thought that there's an "The Emperor's New Clothes" aspect to Grand Cru Burgundy. Rather apt that you'd taste out of a Riedel glass. 😉

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I love that glass hahaha

[@paulmckenna6247]

Entertaining

[@drmatthewhorkey]

🙏🙏🙏

[@antonioristovic1610]

Pinot Noir from Alsace- Robert Mann or lets say NZ Central Otago Burn Cottage, are great choices and offer in my oppinion same quality as upper echalon of 1ER crus in Burgundy but for lesser price ofcourse. Burgundy got out of hand lately....

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Burgundy prices are def out of hand

[@jasonkrick1614]

Can someone taste the difference between Burgundy grand cru and 1st cru? 98% yes. Absolutely. It’s very distinct. There are exceptions where some grands taste like 1st and vice versa. Why? Politics.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Blind tasting is powerful

[@holyone5]

Nice title

[@drmatthewhorkey]

🙏🙏🙏🎥

[@stbu900]

💯

[@drmatthewhorkey]

TY!

[@RCTricking]

I hope you can’t tell the difference because I don’t think my palate is there (and my wallet doesn’t want it to be 😂😂🎉)

[@drmatthewhorkey]

😅😂😆

[@luisamparano]

Wow

[@drmatthewhorkey]

yesssir

[@henriklindhansen6456]

I finde the "Fuckup" prise in bourgogne is too high, so i have a max of 70 bucks, i want to pay there. That said, when you get the good one's, they are Fantastic. but 500 bucks +. isent where i want to be..

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Burgundy is def NOT cheap these days

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[@drmatthewhorkey]

Ok thanks

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[@JohnAmidon-c6r]

If they're not corked! Frankly, give me a screwcap!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I love screwcaps!

[@davidbrown9947]

Shows that this is mostly bollocks

[@drmatthewhorkey]

What is?

[@davidbrown9947]

blind tasting by wine buffs. You lked the cheaper varities@@drmatthewhorkey

[@giak7525]

Grand cru just taste better. Maybe its a pscycological thing 🤔

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Grand Cru can be extraordinary depending on Cru and Producer but... in BLIND we trust

[@Ruirspirul]

Parker was right. even though Burgundians will claim its all about Terroir and soil, we all know it is all about technology of aging. oak, lees, time… so it makes sense that amazing producers will have amazing wines and mediocre ones mediocre, even if they are in a grand cru area. try drinking those grand cru Chardonnays without any elevage and try guessing where are they coming drom😅

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Winemakers can taste the difference while fermentations are going on and before the wine is aged. It's a TOTALLY different skillset and I have a lot of respect for them.

[@LuisAlvarez-zk1go]

Nice guy but appalling at tasting wines and unfortunately I think this video adds nothing, apart from seeing him in pain, to the already crowded world of “wine connoisseurs” in KZbin. Additionally the video title is very funny, is there a difference? To this Dr. obviously not even vs basic Bourgogne.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks for watching though!

[@reidzasawai7521]

Its cooperative wines. Not worth tastning.

[@LuisAlvarez-zk1go]

@@drmatthewhorkey Thanks for taking my comment so nicely anyway.

[@clintlucas-rn2zq]

You need to work on your Chablis knowledge

[@drmatthewhorkey]

👍🏼

[@donaldcook3112]

. . . ‘ W h y ?.. ‘ must the good doctor “ … work on his Chablis knowledge “… Have you e v e r attempted to taste blind?.. above and beyond “ Two Buck Chuck-?..”