We NEED To Talk About Wano...

[@GrandLineReview]

Let's spread some joy to kids in hospitals! tiltify.com/@grandlinereview/glr-subtember-2022

[@child3862]

wow im 1st

[@shadyshrimp4169]

Congratulations on 1MILLION Subscribers Liam

[@Zadine]

ok

[@zoa1-99.......]

wouldn't that be better spent on actual help for kids, they need healthcare, food, love and safety not curent gen gaming consoles?

[@dio4025]

@@zoa1-99....... fax

[@jonnyonearth]

That cut! That damn cut! Is EXACTLY how I felt at the end of wano. That hit me so hard I relived my feeling of seeing the arc end. Never has Liam made me angry but wow that just makes the point even more obvious

[@lamproskostopoulos365]

Bro the cut so unsatisfying but at the same time wano felt so rushed at the end

[@youneseslami3427]

what cut

[@strawhat1983]

@@youneseslami3427 this video's ending

[@ossiaigbedo7223]

The ending of this video made me angrier than fictional pirates. Well played Liam

[@ChristianRRL]

I saw it coming a second away

[@XXXTentaclez]

right? i felt a void in my stomach.

[@dariovdo3237]

It was the BEST

[@csayumi]

I loved it 😂

[@mistahanansi2264]

That last point was definitely the strongest. Building up a story arc over the course of many years just to rush such an unsatisfying and nonsensical ending.

[@melonlordanna]

imagine if the ending of the entire series is rushed to tie in with a new movie

[@BrianPeterson184]

@@melonlordanna Hahaha that would be such trash

[@kodzuken4759]

@@melonlordanna dont jinx it.

[@thedonald011]

@@melonlordanna there will be riots!!

[@joeyskywalker1322]

@@BrianPeterson184 Facts it’s a One Piece fans that never wanna criticize Oda but you can tell Wano was rushed overall I loved the arch but it was definitely rushed in the end

[@tabmasterbeats]

When they were talking about burying Izo, I got confused. It didn't even seem like what happened to him would've killed him

[@TheVegeta67]

Well, you see...yeah, I don't get why that killed him.

[@NegasiZelalem]

A damn shigan… a shigan took out a white beard commander. Asinine

[@dilbophagginz]

It was kind of a wasted death... all the fakeout deaths had more impact to them.

[@KT-pu3gn]

@@NegasiZelalem I mean if they can get between luffy and kaido I dont see why they cant take a lower commander that was weakened

[@ashlinthomas4500]

Same for Ashura’s death. Tbh, after you watch characters survive literal nukes and 1 million volts of electricity, then seeing someone die from mere gunshots and a tiny explosion seems unbelievable.

[@SnowSketchPro]

Yamato could easily have become my favorite character, so getting to the end of Wano and being hit in the face with "Nah, you know what, I changed my mind" makes me feel like I've been robbed.

[@Gurehige]

I was so glad she didn’t join. Plus I never thought she was joining. I knew Oda was just teasing it.

[@TheJmlew11]

Yamato was a shit character. What about her (besides design) was appealing?

[@I5g58]

Yamato not joining the crew makes perfect sense. Wano is still in ruins from the rein of orochi. Yamato can help rebuild communities, settle disputes, and guard against outside threats. Beyond that, Yamato is still determined to travel the world, just not immediately.

[@robertbelfrey9593]

@@I5g58 Sure but then why tease it repeatedly would wonder. Almost like Oda knew people would suspect a repeat Vivi and doubled the fakeout. Sly but a lil bitter about it.

[@guanglaikangyi6054]

Okiku not going to her brother's burial and being on a bath scene instead was really disappointing to me.

[@SSW777]

Ending was rushed as fuck, only hope for me is anime really which I still think wouldn't work to my expectations

[@darth_27]

@@SSW777 yeah only thing u can expect from the anime is repeated flashbacks don’t keep your expectations high

[@krishbohra5536]

Both the deaths, Izo and Kiku, were disappointing. Zero emotional substance. Just felt like a confirmation. To explain it, all I can say is that the only 2 deaths which really felt like something, not counting Oden, were Yasuie and that CP0 guy who stepped between Luffy and Kaido's fight.

[@SSW777]

@@darth_27 I mean they did expand on few things but you are kinda right

[@CoOlKyUbI96]

Its definitely odd. One would think that people would want to move on from Wano as soon as possible. Since its been going on for four years. Yet the arc could have benefited from not rushing the ending

[@Rikadoh]

That abrupt ending was brilliant

[@sk8rhog]

Legit laughing like Luffy at Pica over it XD

[@technician0096]

Lol I laughed, then I realized it was actually over, and felt little sad. Hahah I think he proved his point pretty clearly 🤣

[@masterindra7604]

Exactly 😂

[@Galebushi873]

I thought it was fake and took like 5s to realize he actually ended like that.

[@wookiecote]

Definitely made his point :)

[@Hakokoro]

Honestly I found that Big Mom in Wano was an a very good villain ,better than Kaido. She was cruel , she has great fights,looked monstruous and was full of personality

[@MetalMadness_00]

And showed glimpses of humanity in which our heroes instantly exploited

[@Yoshyguy21]

Big Mom is generally a better antagonist than Kaido, more entertaining to watch and I liked her fight with Law and Kid better than Kaido's fight with Luffy. Granted, Law and Kid did abuse their awakenings a bit more than what should have been possible, but I liked their teamwork and how they didn't simply beat her by overpowering her and instead ended up throwing her out of the island

[@kvng-__ghost3122]

@@Yoshyguy21 I just didn’t like the idea luffy caught up to kaidos power to match him when realistically his haki should’ve been much weaker to match him

[@Yoshyguy21]

@@kvng-__ghost3122 Power creep is a problem in many manga (and games) and One Piece is no exception

[@SamosaGod]

+1

[@wilfredomejia8138]

My biggest gripe with the arc was the ryuma situation we were told multiple time that zoro would visit his gravesite I thought we would at least get a page but nothing

[@sephikong8323]

This. The connection between Zoro and Wano is something that had been built upon for DECADES and once we arrive there Zoro did positively NOTHING, like zip, he got Enma aftef giving back Shusui and trained with iit, that's about it. That was insanely disappointing

[@Deathmare235]

@@sephikong8323he didn’t even get his origins revealed in Wano, it was revealed in a freakin SBS

[@julioacceus253]

There should have been a Fourth epilogue art where several interactions between characters should have went down. I mean FFS what they accomplished is unheard of.

[@julioacceus253]

There should have been a Fourth epilogue art where several interactions between characters should have went down. I mean FFS what they accomplished is unheard of.

[@kelvin4910]

but yet ya'll call him goda😂😂😂

[@Entei9000]

Speaking of "now or never" moments, we still don't know the full story of why Shanks and Kaido fought before Marineford (although I'm guessing we'll learn that from Shanks eventually), and Luffy STILL hasn't passed on Ace's dying message to any of the Whitebeard pirates, even though he could've just told Marco. As for Yamato not joining, it gives me a similar impression as Ace's death. Like he made a decision and wanted to stick to it, but couldn't think of a satisfying reason for why it HAD to happen that way.

[@ThePowerthatbeMe]

If shanks fought kaido that battle would have lasted days and shanks wouldn’t have appeared in marineford not injured. My guess shanks just promised him he’ll invade his territory while he’s gone

[@kaptaan88]

Kaido was looking for wb, cause i think he believed wb was the only one who can kill him

[@kaptaan88]

Also, kaido is insane and wants to burn down the world and die while doing it

[@miyanagikosaki7808]

I thought vivre card September 2021 already mentioned that when the marineford war happen, kaido and king were going to the war (2 people) but was intervened by the red hair pirates (100+ people). Shanks made a deal or something idk. I have to read that vivre card again.

[@Entei9000]

Ah ok. I've only been reading the manga for a few months and was just watching the anime before that, so I didn't know that had already been answered. Does anyone know how I can find the vivre card? I'd like to read it myself to get a better understanding of it

[@redpotater1688]

I think you are totally right and I really didnt like how Wano was rushed. Just like how I hate when people don't click that GLR sub button that will deliver One Piece content directly into your KZbin feed!

[@baman7041]

About the death thing. I felt that exact same feeling with Pedro’s sacrifice in whole cake island. And for the longest time, I really did brush it off expecting him to pop up again bc he miraculously survived. But that never happened, and now when I look back at the flashbacks of Pedro as a cute lil younglingggg, I realized how sad it was that his death didn’t mean that much to me at the time. Now I’m heartbroken lol

[@kingmeruem1]

i think he is just waiting for the right time to die, after bigmom gets 50 years of his lifespan right?

[@octobsession3061]

That's why we mourn when we still have our tears

[@zura2263]

idk killing of side characters to give some tension, is really weak writing in my opinion. Who gives a shit about those characters who died, they where literally written to be thrown away.

[@trongtran8951]

@@zura2263 oh shit, u watch Gintama. But ya I agree, if comparing Shogun’s character to every near-death/death characters, Shogun golden balls has more characters than them kek!!

[@jurgeysamuel]

Maybe that's the intention of Oda all along. The slow burn of agony

[@lkjkhfggd]

I genuinely believed Jinbei was a fake for months because there was no way for him to show up at the perfect moment.

[@SubinGeorge26]

"No way" is a stretch

[@Ion_D12]

Who knows.. Maybe he still is

[@bqw2094]

​@@Ion_D12he's not a fake

[@Ion_D12]

@@bqw2094 hahaha my apologies brother, I was just messing around in the comments for channel engagement Jimbei is another big brother to Luffy and to all of us, before our gomu boy or we even realised it ❤

[@MrNothinlikela]

Never commented on your videos but how you painted the last point hit the nail directly on the head, I was listening to this while playing a game and had to tab over to see if maybe my internet knocked out or the video stopped buffering. Great way to make that last point.

[@SkydrawnIV]

I work at Westmead Childrens Hospital! This is such a lovely thing you're doing 🥰 The Starlight room gives so much joy with the gaming consoles they have, it would be amazing to see the kids with more portable gaming stations!

[@themanman4548]

One big issue I had was the power creep in this arc. It felt like to much and I would have much rather the battle took a Bullet approach from one piece stampede.

[@death4k57]

Luffy needs this power too move on but yes was defo rushed

[@Cipher_Paul]

That's why the raid needed to fail 😂

[@chrisderkonig1379]

Its like a rpg with moderat level ups as you progress. Then 2 dungeon away from the final boss you'll get 20 level ups plus the best weapon in the game.

[@golfinothebest]

@@Cipher_Paul morj was right all along

[@tr1ke435]

agreed. feels like he learned more in that one arc than in the 2 year timeskip

[@winebird8952]

When you can’t think of an ending, force one. I agree with every sentiment of this video. It was a top tier arc, but certain aspects didn’t get the pages they needed to uphold the quality of storytelling we have come to expect from Oda. I’m sure a big part of this though was that he was feeling pushed on time and didn’t want to drag out the arc for another year. I can’t say I blame him, but I’d happily be still reading Wano if many plot holes and off screen moments were played out in a way that made sense.

[@guanglaikangyi6054]

Carrot had the same problem with Yamato imo. She wanted to see the world, and wanted to carry out Pedro's will to bring the dawn if the world. And then, she became Zou's Queen? Really?

[@MetalMadness_00]

We should’ve got Carrot & Yamato joining there’s this cute picture where they come uninvited and it makes me upset we didn’t get it

[@darknesswave100]

It's just so stupid that Yamato talked about leaving the entire time and then all of a sudden she wants......to take a tour of wano? Thats idiotic. She could have gone with the crew and done that when she got back after she got the experience of seeing the world. Hell she could have used what she learned to help wano improve

[@テーイル]

@@MetalMadness_00 Nah, it would've felt rushed to get 2 new crew members in what's literally the next arc from where we got our last Mugiwara. I'm with oda on this one, Yamato and Carrot had no real way of joining without feeling out of place.

[@QyfieK]

Carrot isn’t completely out yet. Remember how Robin joined after the crew had set sail from Alabasta? Carrot has stowed away on the Sunny once, she can do it again. But now it’s probably next chapter or never for her as the strawhats are most likely arriving at the next island very soon.

[@guanglaikangyi6054]

@@darknesswave100 I think it would be fine if she had a moment of realization that she never actually saw Wano, or maybe that Wano might be in danger if she left because of the marines when Aramaki came to "visit". The rushed ending did not do any favors to the story.

[@LessonsOnTheWeb]

The "one strong punch" was also disappointing because Luffy has the power of imagination! He could have done literally anything and it ends with a punch lol

[@baller1352]

cuz thats how luffy operates

[@Thiccjimbobway]

i agree with you but that's also the punch he trained since he was a boy. it's like bruce lee said "i'm not scared of the man who's done 10,000 kicks 1 time, i'm scared of the guy who's done 1 kick 10,000 times"

[@andreasligitboy5056]

@@Thiccjimbobway Great quote

[@-LucidDreamer-]

Kaido fight should've been half the length it was if not less.

[@NegasiZelalem]

It made no sense, idc what anyone says. Oda literally gave himself an out to end it any way possible and ends it in a way that he himself admitted most fans wouldn’t accept… and most don’t

[@masoncooper4810]

I do think that it was a shame that Kaido's worldview wasn't expanded on a bit more. I felt like there was a hint at a really interesting character exploration of someone who relentlessly pursued personal strength in order to find agency and happiness only to realize at some point that he had become the strongest single being and was still as far away from creating the world he wanted as he ever was, which is what drove him to be both suicidally depressed and prone to finding what pleasure he could in crushing the agency of others.

[@chancec906]

I feel like Kaido is a character that we will understand more of his motive as the story goes on, an example being that he is another puppet fitting onto the stage like Dolflamingo only so that he could balance the world at someones will. This could be an explanation as to why we didn't get a backstory as of yet but you can only hope.

[@makepr]

@@chancec906 thats not an thing that we should be saying about an villain with 149 chapters under his belt. one piece has villains with 5x less screen time that we understand more

[@robertbelfrey9593]

Think there is a lot under the surface even with what we get. Dude seemed to clearly have his strength worshipped from childhood but also used by others. So he made it his core belief, not realizing that he gets betrayed so often because of his brute force mentality. It is telling how much his respect changes based on how strong you are even within his own crew. The only ones he treats with any respect are his nine officers and maybe the numbers.

[@Gingerale434]

I loved Wano but felt that some characters didn’t receive much attention, I personally feel like we could of seen more of Ussop or Franky as I believe they may of been slightly neglected, maybe they will get more attention next arc, like if they go to Elbaf I would probably expect Usopp to get a lot more attention

[@MetalMadness_00]

Yeah Yamato held this story back from reaching its full potential way too much time spent on her when it could’ve been used better on developing other plot lines or characters

[@Smkymcpott85]

I agree, but isn't that every arc? Certain characters are held back so other characters can shine.

[@DaichiAkechi]

To be honest, Usopp was such a useless coward in this arc I kind of wish we had seen less of him.

[@duongthanhtung492]

Wasn’t Usopp the MVP in Dressrosa? The Wano arc was so long that you guys forgot about that. Instead, this was supposed to be Zoro’s arc, yet he was outshined by Luffy.

[@duongthanhtung492]

@@MetalMadness_00 Agreed, for a side character, she took too much. The villains in this arc were jokes, they weren’t even half-good as the CP9. For such a long built up, King and Queen are just some random villains for Zoro and Sanji, not commanders.

[@legobatman7683]

I feel like it would have been better if we didn't get any backstory on Kaido. He felt more like a wall for luffy to climb type of villain and with this lackluster backstory it certainly felt like oda went: "Okay. Luffy is punching kaid.. oh yeah his backstory. Hmm... "Survival of the fittest" cliche it is."

[@ReddSquall]

Yeah if the backstory is going to be so superficial I'd rather not get it.

[@Blade_Brown_]

Yeah they should’ve did his backstory during his fight with Yamato instead of mid clash with g5 Luffy.

[@imsentinelprime9279]

Kaido was a shit character as it is.

[@voidnoidoid]

Yea I agree. His backstory was so random and honestly didn't contribute anything to the story lol.

[@lkjkhfggd]

We'll maybe get more if Oda ever talks about the Rocks pirates again.

[@Learnjapanesefromsomeguy]

It is certainly a shame that Oda rushed the story to coincide with the release of Red. Perhaps we will get to see all of the details that everyone was hoping for in a series of flashbacks. That is what I am hoping, anyway.

[@ftrwrwbg]

I don’t even understand the point. Film came out before it ended so we didn’t enter some big new story arc that connects to the film or something. I don’t see what the purpose was.

[@bluespaceman7937]

I think putting too much weight on that factor is misleading. Nothing that happens in Wano really has any much direct relevance to the movie nor vice versa. Also, if the epilogue chapters needed more time, then he could have spend a few more weeks in Wano at the very end without any issues.

[@darknesswave100]

@@ftrwrwbg yeah the film being non canon in the first place really is a slap in the face to the manga readers if that's the case. Thought Oda was better than that but it seems he's not in control as much as he thinks he is. If it were me and this is the arc I've been looking forward to writing for probably over a decade and they said well we need you to hurry this up cause a movie is gonna come out I would have been like screw you assholes release your movie some other time

[@stephencurry4835]

Dude cared about some stupid movie over the manga the had s crappy ending to the fight and arc.

[@Miguel-jg2vi]

@@ftrwrwbg I don't know to what extent Oda had control over this (of course he's the author, but...). Be that as it may, for me it was completely unnecessary, I think fans were already invested on the film, he could have just teased Shanks "return" a little bit

[@jpronan8757]

I think Wano should have came before Whole Cake I just like Big Mom and her crew more than Kaido and the beast pirate's. Big Mom felt like an unstoppable force of nature and it genuinely felt like fleeing was our only option. I hope we see Katakuri lead his family and he calls them the Charlotte Pirate's although if we get confirmation that Perospero is still alive he'd make a better leader.

[@Manganization]

Big Mom was immensely entertaining. Kaido was too but Big Mom's presence was just felt much more than Kaido ever managed.

[@mentalexwar]

Wow Thank you for this! I also was thinking this but not sure if it was just me but I was definitely more entertained and terrified by the big mom pirates

[@sephikong8323]

I preferred Whole Cake and Big Mom, as you said, she felt like an actual menace unlike Kaido who felt like an obstacle, plus she had an actual personality and objective and ideals even though she also was wholly unpredictable with her eating disorder and her mode of action, whereas Kaido felt very very blank, there were at best hints of a personality during the final fight but that was very subdued). I also preferred her crew but at the same time ....... Queen was WAY WAY too fun to watch, his antics were a treat to follow and I think he's my favorite Yonko commander (my man out there rapping about how he does not want to lose weight or he'd become too sexy and then fucking attacks Big Mom for some soup)

[@jpronan8757]

@@sephikong8323 I agree Queen carried the Beast Pirates on the personality/character front.

[@Patrick-nq9ij]

I disagree with the Wano before the WCI part, even if Wano was bad, I still think Wano certainly fit that "final" vibe

[@EvanCalli]

My biggest gripe with wano is that towards the end, where we had sooo many "break weeks" that should've allowed time for the story be thoroughly thought out, but then ended up with a rushed, less than satisfying ending

[@fleichman1787]

Yamato: “before I set out to sea, im going to explore Wano like Kozuki Oden did” Like bruh explore what? All there is outside of the capital Is mostly barren wasteland and factories

[@thehahahaha88]

Oda retcon in the last minute

[@bagonsoul]

Lmao Oda retcon bc she isn't in the movie apparently. What a shit show

[@MetalMadness_00]

@@bagonsoul a lot of time was spent on her talking about her dream to leave Wano and explore the big world

[@xephyre6955]

@@MetalMadness_00 All of those panels wasted on her going on and on about being Oden could have been used for actual character development for her

[@テーイル]

I always knew this would happen and i said it since yamato's introduction. The problem is that people forget that one piece is a series that is meant to be read AFTER it finished. If Yamato got a place among the strawhat, that would break the general flow of a character becoming one, and feel undeserved after you read it. We guys feel that it was a very long set up because we've been reading this arc for four years irl, but someone who reads it now that the arc is done, will take no more than 2 or 3 weeks. Imagine having to wait a month or two for Jinbei to finally become a strawhat and then suddenly the next arc we have another one who appeared out of nowhere and had little to none correlation with Luffy's dream. All you had to do was follow the dam real life logic, CJ.

[@Yoshyguy21]

Besides what you said, I also think there were toooo many secondary conflicts and the raid as a whole felt a bit too chaotic for me. It makes sense considering it's basically a small-scale war, but it made following the action somewhat hard and certain characters (Usopp and Chopper specially) didn't get the love they deserved. I did like Jinbe's talk with Who's Who though, that was quite cool

[@Gnuenguemo]

Was there any more information on Who-who’s Cipher Pol connection?

[@dorderre]

As someone who read the manga on a weekly basis, for most of the time I had absolutely no clue what's going on. Scenes and characters and story elements jumped from one end to the other in almost every chapter. Developments were teased or hinted at but not concluded etc. I really needed the videos from GLR, Joygirl, Morj and Ohara to even begin to make sense of it all. And yes, the end was rushed. It could easily have used like half a dozen extra chapters to even tie up all the loose ends.

[@spritemon98]

I don't think they ever talked again after he announced that big news

[@tomgu2285]

Chopper literally fought fucking queen survived shots from big moms son and defeated a ice virus 😑. Are you fucking kidding me???

[@Yoshyguy21]

@@tomgu2285 I still wish he did something else. Also, he didn't really fight Queen, just slapped him once and that was it

[@pocketgrim4942]

Honestly the last act made me like this arc less than dressrosa. Kaido had a stinky backstory and the arcs ending was weak as hell. Those are major issues, im genuinely scared for the rest of the series if he was willing to compromise the ending to one of the most important arcs in the series for a film release. We have a pretty weak understanding of one of the 4 original villains hes planned for the series since its conception, thats a big issue. What if he dogs blackbeard and Imu the same way?

[@Deathmare235]

4 original villains?

[@moredori8895]

this video having that ending genuinely drove that point to the moon. my jaw dropped when i was listening to this in the car and the video just ended. liam never ceases to amaze

[@ramrod5064]

I felt Kaido was handled like some of the movie villians - too strong and cool, and here's a teeny flashback to make feel for him. Except it didn't work. Also, what happened to the Beast Pirates? Prison? Cover stories? Captain Yamato?

[@celestialcreeper8736]

Agreed,though The stuff with the drunk faces while fighting luffy was great,so he is not 100%series the whole time like most of the movie villans.but yeah he is basically,I am big man that does big punch.

[@tomgu2285]

Nah kaido was great.

[@ravelhidersunk4458]

Crocodile without flashback able to explain his character a lot better than kaido

[@TheRockerX]

@@ravelhidersunk4458 True

[@craigtripp965]

You're dead on with the Princess Problem. It's one of the problematic tropes that is present in a lot of stories and is commonly referred to as 'women in refrigerators'.

[@JustAnotherPerson4U]

I like princess prop better. Less... gruesome as a trope name.

[@typeouetco1626]

@@JustAnotherPerson4U also that's something else. Women in refrigerators specifically is the act of killing a character solely to motivate the protagonist (mainly his love interest)

[@PlanetZoidstar]

@@typeouetco1626 Oda loves doing that to moms, however. Nami: Dead mom figure. Ussop: Dead mom. Sanji: Dead mom. Nico Robin: Dead family (including mom.). Brook: Dead family (including mom.). Chopper: He's dead to his mom. Ace: Dead mom. Big Mom: Dead mom figure. Oda loves killing off moms.

[@dansheshe8039]

Boa Hancock is our only hope now

[@johnhallman3611]

Right now, in Western entertainment, we've got another problem with female characters. I'm talking about the ones who have zero flaws, have no personality, and completely bypass the hero's journey. Not only are these characters unlikeable, but they are also boring. The Mulan remake certainly comes to mind.

[@maxojavierrojasurzua5746]

The Wano arc is one of my favorites from the post time skip era, however it was too ambitious an arc and it looks like Oda tried his best not to make the same mistakes he did in the Dressrosa arc.

[@aganaom1712]

i'm not sure if it's because of the arc itself call me whatever you want but i think the timing of the newest movie had a heavy hand in the quality of the latter half of wano

[@prxnceanime6335]

@@aganaom1712 facts oda showed film red more love than the ending of wano Like why tf is uta canon out of no where It was just cash grab smh

[@justynhill4814]

@@prxnceanime6335- because apparently all the yonko who were around After Roger died wanted to give parenthood a try and big mom got a head start.

[@chrisbelos2834]

Post-timeskip is trash. No fights with the marines in 12 YEARS irl. remember : they allied with Smoker and the marines in Punk Hazard, were on friendly terms with the "new" admiral Fujitora in dressrosa, then the marines dissapear for most of 8 years until Ryokugyu shows up and he's turned back by ... Shanks. let's not forget the "capture robin at all cost" that popped-up during the raid and it was all for nothing. not even a single straw hat defeated a CP agent.

[@Yoshyguy21]

@@chrisbelos2834 I mean, idk why you're making it seem like being stopped by Shanks is a lame thing. Dude stopped Akainu's punch and was like "war's over", and the Marines were like "yeah ok"

[@benhaywood8292]

Wait… am I misremembering or did we never get Jinbe’s Straw Hat toast? The one from before the raid was left until afterward, and then it just… didn’t happen. It seems like it was being saved for Yamato, but then when Yamato didn’t join Oda just forgot about it entirely

[@xaviermm5506]

My same thoughts. In reality, they DID have a toast, but it wasn't specifically for Jinbei but to celebrate their victory over Kaido, in fact, Jinbei was all alone cheering to himself... WHY??? Didn't Luffy stop the welcoming toast before the fight in order to do it later but bigger? Why didn't it happen? 😢😢😢

[@JoshNpublicgplus]

It's astounding how an arc this long still missed so much and had such a rushed ending. I believe that so much of it could have been made more compact. For example, what's the point of drawing out suspense in long battles only for them to finish so disappointingly? Instead, the arc was a little scatterbrained and felt way too slow a lot of the time. It shouldn't be necessary to wait that many actual years for a satisfying story arc.

[@Nando75549]

What I love the most about Wano is that it really got me into the Beast Pirates so much. I was literelly like this through the whole arc: Kaido's Dragon form: AH! Maria's Spider form: AAAH! Page One's Spinosurus form: *AAAAAAAAAH!*

[@Oharafolk]

Yes, i agree. I remember when Wano started that most people theorized that it would be a five act arc. For me, the worst parts was the so rushed Kaido flashback and that Yamato didn't join the crew for that stupid reason. I loved Wano, but it feels like the first time one finish an RPG knowing that only explored the 70% of the map and left a lot of quest undone.

[@alchemistofsteel8099]

Like Chrono Trigger is you decide to beat Lavos immediately after the Ocean Temple?

[@interceptionbug4166]

@@alchemistofsteel8099 you have to grind a lot i suppose i'm playing it and just seeing the lavos clone that appears in Death Peak and Black omem is actually scaring me about lavos

[@Oharafolk]

@@alchemistofsteel8099 Oh man, yeah what a great memory!

[@SogekingFirebirdStar]

It's amazing that one story arc can really highlight both Oda's strengths and weaknesses as an author. I want to believe he has a plan in motion and that Yamato will come back and join in a big way, but I still can't get over the way things ended for the character in Wano. To build up a character for two years of real world time and then at the very last possible second reveal the character won't join the main cast, it feels less like trolling and more like flat out cruelty.

[@michaelfleischer5921]

I think it could be rather "simple" to make it believable. Maybe Green bull could have been more dangerous or shanks Intervention coming later. Yamato says something like "I can fight with you, If i stay on wano and swear to protect the Island until Momo, the heir of Oden, surpasses me" and then it would have been understandable. Its really a bummer that the end was this rushed

[@Yggdraseed]

I literally felt my heart sink when Yamato didn't join. It really felt like I'd been betrayed. I guess I developed more of an affection and connection for Yamato than most readers, but it just felt like such a slap in the face.

[@SogekingFirebirdStar]

@@Yggdraseed I know how you're feeling, believe me. Still, as angry as I was (and still am a little) at Oda, I'm choosing to hold onto faith that Yamato will be back, and when it happens, it will be for good.

[@Yggdraseed]

@@SogekingFirebirdStar Same here. I have more faith in Oda than most authors, so I'm going to hold out hope that this just wasn't the right time and that Oda won't abandon Yamato as a character. This isn't even a matter of being sad when your favorite didn't join the crew. Yamato staying on Wano would just be a total derailing of the story's themes.

[@Iopipimps]

Kaido was supposed to be so strong and scary, Doffy would rather fight admirals than risk pissing him off. But the kaido we got didn't feel close to that. Maybe haki being everywhere diminished the impact of beast pirates compared to the crazy fruit powers we've seen from earlier arcs.

[@pepsi-4275]

Kaido literally one-shot a much stronger version of Luffy that beat Doflamingo. That obviously showed off his strength that Doflamingo feared.

[@tomgu2285]

He was scared of him because of his strength.

[@mentalexwar]

Nah I agreed, big moms felt way more threatening and they didn’t even hype her as much initially

[@Gurehige]

HE DEFEATED LUFFY 4 TIMES

[@captainmarvelous7678]

This is one of the few complaints about Wano I don't understand. Kaido beat luffy like 7 times, after besting the samurai, Yamato, Taking attacks from Kidd law and Zoro AND while expending energy holding up Onigashima. one of the few things Wano delivered on imo was Kaidos monstrous strength. He truly seemed unbeatable until Luffy got an ass pull power up to do so.

[@chocobabychibi5160]

I totally agree with you!! I also have a few more grips about this arc is that by the 3rd act, I totally forgot many of the characters in Wano and couldn't care less about many characters and some of the fights felt rushed and not satisfying. Even on re-reading it in a binge still not good enough as the resolution of this arc is totally not satisfying like Dressrosa or WCI. I really hope Oda could do pacing better in the next arc.

[@SleepyGraugans]

Man, all these years and I didn't know epitome was pronounced like that! Anyways, I agree on all points made here. I can see why Yamato couldn't join the Strawhats yet, considering his/her knowledge from Oden's log and giving away too much info about the One Piece. However, a situation such as this didn't lead to Robin telling the crew where Pluton is, even though she's known its (approximate) location for *checks calendar*... about 20 years, now. But it wasn't handled well, at all. If there had just been a small panel or two where Yamato tells Luffy "Yeah, I'm staying in Wano until Momo is strong enough to protect it. But I'm making up a story to stay here, so he won't be disappointed.", that would have been fine with me.

[@mitchepicsauce5599]

how did you think it was pronounced?

[@shika15]

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I think the ending of wano might actually benefit from the anime. Some filler scenes might be good for kaido’s backstory right before the bajrang gun, plus maybe the ending won’t feel so rushed

[@KinglyOle]

Nah they always find a way...to make it horrible

[@calvinbaxter7151]

@@KinglyOle keeps watching one piece content lol

[@S4or]

@@calvinbaxter7151 i love one piece but he’s right, toei doesnt do it justice most of the time

[@bcool9272]

@@S4or It will be difficult to make a worse ending of Wano than Oda did

[@S4or]

@@bcool9272 i hope your right cuz toei is known to disappoint

[@PrecursorIdeliron]

With Yamato, I sort of wonder if Oda will have her pull a Jinbei of sorts, and just randomly show up at a pivotal moment piloting Pluton. Just one huge moment where all seems lost, then Yamato rolls in with one of the big three world changers, saying they wanted to catch up and this was the best way to do so.

[@SogekingFirebirdStar]

I'm hoping that's true!

[@gamefreak2050]

Definitely see her as an ally and not an official member ( I think that ship has sailed)

[@rampaging_teddy]

Actually interesting, it might be a case of all 3 ancient weapons being needed for the end, and because Shirahoshi was another close friend of Luffy's, he's kind of setting it up so they can all come help at the end

[@matheusbainy8042]

him*

[@ArnulfoSalgado]

@@matheusbainy8042 that hasn’t been confirmed yet. Unlike Kiku, Yamato isn’t calling themself a man. Just Oden. As in, they’re emulating Oden. That they take it up to an extreme is a character quirk.

[@thefangedpanda1133]

I really wish they would've taken the time with creating act 4 and should've gone around to flesh out characters that were set out to do specific things like idk zoro visiting the grave or so on and so on... it really feels just like the end of this video we are chatting over a subject skip anything that was previously setup and end it right then and there without any reasoning its kind of frustrating because we all know that the writing can be really amazing so to see a fall like this it leaves a bad taste in my mouth

[@-LucidDreamer-]

No, it's already been too long and it's time for the one piece creator to keep things short and sweet from now on and actually wrap the story up in a few years like he has said. He should focus on things like Blackbeard, shanks, top tier confrontations, the war, one piece, thats it dude. It's over. I don't think anybody wants one piece to be a 30 year long story. It's just too much.

[@Netherwolf6100]

Yeah, I feel like this arc was just too much for Oda to do and honestly fully pay off. So much was building up for Carrot and Yamato to join and then..... they didn't. Zoro's backstory and motivations were building to this huge reveal.... then didn't. Kaido felt like he was this huge imposing force that would force Luffy to do more than end it with a punch then..... didn't. A lot of this arc feels like it was cut simply because it was taking too long and maybe the editors or producers just wanted Oda to finish asap. Either that or Oda just.... I dunno..... maybe he's finally reaching a form of burnout?

[@MetalMadness_00]

Also feel this dragged on too long

[@jamesr.160]

Well said

[@tomgu2285]

Nah marineford was definitely more insane in terms of battel and ambitioun.

[@yndroma]

@@tomgu2285 When did he say anything about marineford?

[@natfig4389]

Think about the new saga he spoke about, the one that came right after this arc, he said he won’t be holding anything back anymore, so I think he held back in wano with most information so that it can be even more satisfying when we go back to it, we know kaidos back story is important in relation to rocks but we didn’t get it because of the information it holds, he held back because he knew after this arc everything show will reach the peak of all fiction, so I’m going to trust him

[@nickgates4259]

Biggest issue for me is Yamato. It would have been so easy to give pretty much any other reason for staying and have it make more sense

[@jonboner1731]

At 0:16, the fact that the chimera ant arc was put there makes me have a theory about the GrandLineReview creator. My theory is that he knows the best two anime are One Piece and HxH, given his chimera arc reference. Therefore, one of his goals is to create a manga that combines these two stories. Extremely creative

[@ushasamc]

Damn. Me too. I legit went back to reread the previous chapters because I thought I must’ve skipped something, even going as far as changing multiple sites because I thought there must’ve been an error somewhere but had to give up in the end. It was really disappointing. I’m really glad I’m not the only who thought so Edit: That ending was FIRE though

[@brianlovesmc]

I never expected Yamato to join, but at the very least I wanted Yamato to have a character arc to make them realize why they need to do their own thing instead of imitating oden

[@MissAllWednesday]

@20CBTBSVBOPAOT You sound pretty butthurt yourself. Original commenter stated a perfectly reasonable criticism. Yamato could have definitely been handled better whether you like her or not.

[@Gurehige]

@@MissAllWednesday she is a terrible character all together. One of the worst characters in One Piece and the most overrated one.

[@fellowkrieger457]

What was the point of the notebook of Ace also? We didn't got anything from that...

[@Shoebi618]

@@Gurehige That's your opinion lmao. It could have been so cool to see another person joining the straw hats.

[@nicolejakegalagala9576]

Honestly they should've at least leave a couple of hints or AT LEAST A HINT in what happend in the void century like you said, as with toki's past.

[@BestgirlJordanfish]

I adore so much of Wano, but I think I just have three MASSIVE gripes: • I don't like the gear 5 reveal since it makes him just so special and powerful and that strips part of the magic of this rubber lad thinking outside the box and working with what little he got. Wish some level of unity and creativity was needed to stop Kaido. • Zoro didn't real have an amazing big moment for developing an arc. • Yamato not joining kinda really bothers me, especially out of nowhere. Declining one's dreams feels so antithetical to me, and Yamato would've fit in so nicely.

[@ChineseWinnie]

Luffy being a genius turning his useless rubber fruit into an amazing weapon? Naaaaah, his "useless" devil fruit is now a fruit of a god that only the chosen one may eat

[@Manganization]

@@ChineseWinnie I have less of an issue with the fruit itself and more of an issue with the barely-an-explanation of how it supposedly went under the radar. It really makes the Gorosei seem really incompetent and has a "somehow this happened" ring to it. Now they'll no doubt have to explain why Shanks was handling such a thing so lightly and why he had it in the first place, and why almost no one made a connection that the only and well-known rubber-man may have the nika nika no mi?

[@lizerlothdlb2389]

oda has been doing this shit all the way back to alabasta with Vivi, still pissed about her not joining

[@owkrikki]

the useless rubber man devil fruit shit rlly went out the window when gear 4 and haki was introduced tbh, i feel like gear 5s toonforce gimmick is pretty interesting in itself though

[@Saleem__786]

There's no way you said "some level of unity and creativity" was needed to stop Kaido when Gear 5 is his most creative form. In the latest chapter he said, "that's what I look like when I'm totally free", gear 5 has the best thematic story behind Luffy. Get some reading comprehension

[@joel-k]

This ending was absolutely genious

[@jaysenkas8537]

/r/OnePiece banned me for having cancer. They called me a "bald fuck" and banned me. When I asked why they banned me, they just stuck me on mute.

[@traumatisedcommentary9177]

I like that we felt more emotion from a random cp0 member than Izo. Not even Kiku went to his funeral

[@GamingwTallenV]

Re reading the arc I liked it way better then week to week. No arc will ever be “perfect” Always good to remember that. As for Yamato, ya that was just 🫠

[@cortexius181]

Goodluck injecting that to the fandom's thick ass excuse of a head.

[@TheRockerX]

Reading it week to week was great, but on a reread...all the many setups that got abandoned feel like a pointless waste of time

[@jakeschreiber7861]

thank you perfectly articulating the issues i had with luffys power-ups this arc, im curious to see how oda is going to navigate that going forward since luffy is now as strong or even stronger than a character who was already the pinnacle of strength in the verse.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

Yeah, I think Oda should have stopped at Luffy mastering Conq. Haki and saved Gear 5 for later. It was foreshadowed a Ryuo punch would be the thing to beat Kaido by exploding him from the inside.

[@ReturningSunn]

Kaido as a villain felt like a character that was written by two different people. Oda clearly had intentions to give Kaido more than just a “Mwahaha Im evil and strong” type of character, but never fully committed to that. Whenever we do get some sort of hint of a deeper character, it’s never elaborated or expanded upon. If there was commitment to either of these things, Kaido would’ve worked just fine. But right now, his character just feels incomplete and inconsistent m.

[@AgentB-0711]

Facts!

[@alhabsi3545]

Yamato not joining is a flaw definitely but I think it’s forgivable, the biggest problems in my eyes are Kaido being honestly an awful antagonist considering the 20 years to his build up and the incredibly rushed ending. Even 5 more chapters would’ve done a lot for Wano. Looking back on Wano now as an arc kind of just sucks, all of that build up for nothing

[@houmihm]

Exactly man i feel the same way. When one day One Piece is finished and i reread the arcs i will definitely skip Wano because of the disappointment that awaits.

[@colindavis7197]

That's my thing. There's so much different stuff I look back on being setup that went nowhere (Zoro's history). Or even worse, it went somewhere stupid (Yamato). Wano is very disappointing at best and surprisingly bad at worst imo

[@voidnoidoid]

ikr wano felt like the disappointing conclusion to a lot of hype. Felt like a giant letdown

[@CoOlKyUbI96]

While I don't think it's a flaw that Yamato did not join the crew. I do think it's a flaw how it was resolved off panel. For being such a big reflection on Yamato's part, at the very least we should have seen the exchange between Yamato and Luffy

[@randomdude4045]

Many casual fans will get offended by this comment. Be ready, they will keep spamming your notif trying to defend Oda as the perfect god of writer. Trust me, i've been there before

[@Swaggy-waggy]

Congrats on 1,000 vids Liam!

[@guileticia9]

I also didn't like that a few things didn't have a consequence. For example Sanji loosing his humanity, calling Zoro and making us wait for a real sentimental and impacting fight, but no. Or the solution for Zoro still fighting, which came out of nowhere, and didn't have a real consequence, because even the grim reaper lead us nowhere

[@nothingspecial8114]

Another thing that’s probably the DUMBEST thing about Wano that many ppl overlook is the moment Momo is kidnapped by Kanjuro, everyone there acts as if so many of them couldn’t travel through the sky. Then when Sanji sky walked to try to rescue him apparently I was supposed to believe Kanjuro was strong enough to hold him off?

[@wingshad0w00982]

Wano was a genuinely good arc. A smattering of issues held it back from being a *great* arc however. I'd argue the whole 'giving characters death scenes to have them not die' and 'giving characters deaths while skipping their death scenes' and 'one piece and death lol' is actually a major flaw of the arc too. But yeah, that, Yamato, the raid finale feeling rushed all feel like things keeping this from being a proper 'great' arc. Still a good arc, probably a very good arc, but not a 'great' arc.

[@eneveasi]

Yea.. disappointing to me because it was set to be a great arc until the final like 10 chapters imo.

[@tomgu2285]

@@eneveasi I mean.... What?? I do agree kinda rushed and to many offscreen interaction but everything else??? Was great.

[@josenavarro1054]

I half disagree. I'd say it has lows but the highs are so high that I can't put wano out of the great arcs. However, I'd definitely put it below enies lobby and marineford

[@jojosoni]

@@josenavarro1054 personally, highs were never high enough. Rooftop fight was great, but except robin's fight and sanji's character moment chapter, i didn't enjoy this raid. Act 2 had lots of problem. Act 1 was perfect though. Overall, not too many high points for me in this raid. It had many hype moments but not emotional moment. This is not naruto after all.

[@josenavarro1054]

@@jojosoni I get what you mean, I guess the tobi roppo were kind of dissapointing but served as an excuse to highlight the rest of the strawhats. But the raid was really satisfying and emotional to me and kaido vs luffy was amazing. Gear 5's abilities fits the themes of the story really well. My biggest criticism is against the ending of the arc, it left some doors open but it felt incomplete and the speech about the kurozumi didn't feel right.

[@Spika94]

I am at a firm belief that people took Oda's words way too literally with the strong punch thing. Because Gear 4 was entirely just stronger punches. Gear 3 was entirely just stronger punches. Gear 2 was entirely just stronger punches. Gear 5 was a bit more than that.

[@Weaponator18]

Yeah I've never understood that complaint. Luffy punches people. Kaido was always going to lose to a punch. People being mad or disappointed by that us silly to me

[@8E_3T]

@@Weaponator18 Exactly! Plus we got to see Luffy wear Kaido down so much before that punch and even before Gear 5. Luffy and Kaido weren't toe-to-toe, but Kaido WAS taking damage. He may have only gotten down to like 75% health in video game terms, but he was still being worn down. Then Luffy almost died and awakened his devil fruit and just like with Katakuri, he's no longer doing only physical damage, it's psychological too. I'm not saying Kaido was scared, of course not, that's dumb, but his guard was completely shattered because Luffy wasn't even playing by the originally known rules of his devil fruit anymore. Hell, Kaido took a fist THROUGH THE HEAD and lived to tell the tale. How creepy would that be? So in my opinion, I think that helped wear Kaido down for that big punch to work. Let's not forget that Luffy also fired Kaido's own breath attack back at him at one point. So yeah, I think Kaido was partially taken down because the awakening made him panic. Not be scared, but panic.

[@renziie2804]

but why cant it be a kick?????? or lightning??? or fire??? luffy's fruit is now literally limitless and he could have ended the fight differently thats what liam is saying here. Also if every major fight is going to end with "arhhhh now i jump in the air, charge my punch, bad guy look surprise, epic hero v villian stare, send punch" then its going to get boring imo.... can imagine luffy vs im, blackbeard, sakazuki will also be one big final punch *yawn

[@Cipher_Paul]

@@Weaponator18 Luffy could have literally used his rubber properties to bounce Kaido off of Wano and into the ocean. Or something else even more creative using Gear 5th. I mean, Gear 5th is literally meant to change whole of One Piece as well as the way that Luffy fights.

[@RichHomieGon]

Yeah but Gear 5 gives a lot more possibilities than just a basic punch though. I would’ve liked to see luffy use his awakening to turn the area around him into rubber and then hit Kaido with a barrage of fists from all over. Kind of like his final hit on Lucci but better. Since Luffy was in the sky for the final hit, I think it’d be cool for him to turn the clouds themselves into rubber and rain down hundreds of fists to beat Kaido into the ground

[@constantinosmanolakas2541]

I agree with what you said, the only thing I’m going to do is maybe try and excuse what you said about Yamato. Couldn’t Yamato not joining the crew be explained by having her read Odens log book? It would be difficult to have a person that read Odens log book and probably knows what/where the One Piece( or if not that some pretty important information that we’re bot meant to know yet) is, to be on the crew and interacting while the crew tries to discover that information. It makes more sense to have her come in after we get some answers.

[@kxbrewsky]

Whales can hear sounds like a thousand miles away underwater, and Jinbe is a whaleshark. I like to imagine he just keeps an ear out for the crew and can hear their voices vibrating through the hull of the ship.

[@houmihm]

I appreciate every One Piece KZbinr that‘s criticising Wano. Oda needs to see these and realise how disappointed people are with Wano.

[@akshatnanaware2661]

he knows that even he himself is dissapointed and accepted that he rushed wano

[@aganaom1712]

i am making an observation as to how most of the gripes you have tend to be centered around the latter portion of the arc almost as if things that were set up earlier were dropped or hastily tied up due to time constraints of a deadline that didn't exist until part way through this arc. i wonder what sort of real world event could have possibly caused oda's writing to so noticeably falter in several important areas, some of which he has already proven to be a master at.

[@chinuaalibatya7345]

These problems have been here for a while, people only noticed at the end

[@joshd2013]

Film red is the answer

[@eneveasi]

Yea.. it was very uncharacteristic of Oda and was pretty disappointing actually. I hope he doesn’t keep doing that to his story and let’s it breathe fully in the final Saga

[@bluespaceman7937]

I think that's a very simplistic answer. One, because knowing how to pace your manga properly is supposed to be part of his job. Oda is a professional manga creator. Wano was already the longest arc. Two, the release date of the epilogue chapters wasn't really affected by the movie. If Oda needed more time for the epilogue, he could have extended those chapters a little bit more without any problem. If all that was required was a tie-in, then he could accomplish this in a few other ways without difficulty.

[@codeonexz3813]

I felt like if Oda had permission to make more than 18 pages then a lot of things could’ve easily been detailed and solidified. He could’ve easily added a handful of panels to cure everybody’s worry, but I believe the editors told him he needs to stick to the absolute main points

[@spliffsforbreakfast]

Yea I definitely feel like Wano perfectly captures the essence of “tease”. They built up Zoro’s character arc, built up Kaido’s purpose for existing, and arguably jumped the gun on Gear 5th.. everything was laid out perfectly but came out clunky? I think it’s interesting to think about how Luffy took 2 years to master Gear 4th but it took him less than 3 weeks to master Ryo and awaken his DF. The rushed ending of the arc definitely isn’t detrimental to the overall story but it really hurts the development of several very important characters with pivotal roles to the overall story.

[@orion2992]

Luffy is a haki prodigy just like roger, whitebeard, shanks and rocks. How do you guys not understand this shit. Yall complain about shit because it doesn't go your way.

[@YntTwon]

@@orion2992 on god this man luffy is the son of garp who beat rocks

[@thatsabitcringe5100]

@@YntTwon grandson*

[@obi3924]

To be fair, we just know that Luffy learned gear 4th within the 2 year timeskip. We don’t know how long it actually took him to learn it. For all we know, it might’ve only taken him a couple weeks.

[@hooligan740]

he didnt awaken the fruit tho, the hardships he faced did. no amount of training could have predicted that outcome

[@Towliez]

its about dam time the davy back arc gets the respect it deserves

[@sobakiin1797]

Wow, okay, that ending completely blindsided me. You deserve a like for that one

[@pedropereira1141]

love this guy and this anime, keep going

[@62011285]

With all that's needed for a character to die, I still can't believe Kaido and Big Mom are dead. In One Piece I can't believe any death without someone with knowledge, normally the narrator, say they are truly dead. That didn't happen with those 2. They went underground, that's it. For all we know they're in a pretty bad shape and trapped in Pluton. For Queen and King it's a little more believable, but still, green bull could have just taken almost of their energy, but capture them nonetheless and taken them to the Navy Headquarters because it was never stated that they died, only just implied. TL:DR: In One Piece, if a death is only implied and not stated as true I don't believe, therefore I'm still waiting for news regarding Kaido, Big Mom, Queen and King.

[@Tomhankerus]

When did it say they're dead? I still need a very real confirmation.

[@Y0G0FU]

I add an 11th Point to that list that ties in with 10 a bit: Shanks. The appearence of the Red Hair Pirates was unnecessary, pointless and boring. And all of that for a non canon Movie.

[@YeetMinus]

CONGRATS ON 1MIL SUBS!!! btw ive been a fan since before 200k

[@elmatius19]

Bro that ending caught me so off guard, I thought the video was still playing😭😭

[@Thunderlips-60602]

Kaido’s “backstory” was when, for me, the arc went down from top 3 to top 8.

[@death4k57]

His backstory should of been explained after the fight tbh

[@BlackLotus30]

@@death4k57 or it's something that is going to be adressed later, since a lot of Kaido is tied to Xebec.

[@stuarthammond3089]

Hyori healed the scabbards after their fight with Kaido which was pretty significant... but yeah, I was really hoping that she would be the one to kill Orochi

[@Ike158]

The ending was on spot gj

[@elcuki630]

I agree with all your points. That last one was right on the money. It def felt rushed. I’m kinda sad we didn’t get zoros backstory either.

[@nsdcstreaming4564]

I squinted hard at my screen when the video ended... I knew the setup. I felt it coming... But the sting didn't hurt less... I love it.

[@devinaaron6199]

I believe oda knows about these things but just did not have enough time to complete all the things he had planned. I hope the zoro story etc will get a flashback in the future

[@jobbieryan6662]

true we might get his backstory later on or he might tell Luffy about his past

[@ternel]

Maybe I am just salty but I think wano is going to be judged fairly only when the series ends. We know the final arc is upon us and if the threads from wano don't pan out I feel like it might be the worst arc post time skip.

[@gleborlov3045]

I need to talk about this: Yamato will not spend a week or two travelling Wano. I think the purpose is to understand the people, and live with them. Help rebuild it and thus develop a relationship with its people. At this moment, who is Yamato to the people of Wano? Kaido's kid. Oden spent many years with the country's citizens and gained their respect. I think Yamato wants to go through that same journey and build a similar respect. I agree that it's a sudden change of heart, but I disagree that the adventure will take a couple of weeks.

[@tomgu2285]

Yep. Oden needed years to gain the respect same for Yamamto.

[@mokaljordan]

Liams ability to make a spot on yet facetious analysis with no minced words is why he has one of the biggest OPTubers that ending tho lool

[@bilalchiiino3423]

yeah i agree i hate that it happened offscreen , but thats happening in teh whole Wano arc the anime fills it in most of the time

[@ZafoolTV]

I get people's frustration with Kaido as a whole. But I think I get his deal. Kaido grew as a warrior and stronger than most kinda like Bullet but stronger. He then met Linlin, Shirohige and Rocks which were all stronger than him and had massive ambitions. He felt like he found his place. Then we have god valley, which we know nothing about and could explain Kaido's motivation regarding Joyboy and Wano. However, even without knowing about GV, I believe once Rocks died, Kaido only had WB as a rival and the latter wasn't interested, so that made Kaido the strongest once Linlin gave him his DF. To understand Kaido, you gotta think about the fact that he had no rival and thus, no motivation anymore, he was so bored that he wanted to start the biggest war ever to satisfy his battle hunger. But When Luffy finally proved to be a worthy opponent and a decent successor to Joyboy, I think Kaido kinda let go of all his plans and bet on Luffy, if he could beat him fair and square, he could then stepback and let the new dawn rise

[@hakeem2425]

But he doesn’t say it bro 😂😂😂 kaido just loser on some bull shit

[@NosferatuZoddsOnlyFans]

Damn I like your thought on Kaido a lot makes it slightly less disappointing.

[@theonlyhikaru]

There's so many missed opportunities and loose threads in Wano that you can make a blanket out of it. These are just the ones at the top of my head: -Nidai Kitetsu being forgotten -Big Mom Pirates and their dumb waterfall predicament -Carrot awkwardly being shoved aside -Yamato not joining the crew after screaming that she will 24/7 -Zoro's possible connection to the Shimotsuki family -Numbers being absolutely useless after all the silhouette hype -Kaido's joke of a flashback -Big Mom randomly being delegated to Law and Kid despite WCI arc setting up her battle with Luffy -Never finding out the real name of Onigashima (though it could be a future plot point) -Luffy reuniting with Marco -Hiyori being the one to take down Orochi -Sasaki maybe having a connection to Kokoro which gives emotional weight to his battle with Franky -Otama being a Kurozumi (a proper revelation would've been better than small random hint on her parents' graves) -The Nika thing is also pretty random and while I can accept this as an award for Luffy coming so far, I wish there was more foreshadowing to it -Rushed ending with that awful line about the "Kurozumi" from a Kozuki of all people (yes I know it was a pun and the official translation changed it to singular but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth because the line Japanese can be interpreted as plural) I did enjoy the arc as a whole but I'm not generous enough to put it in my top 5 like GLR. I don't think it was rushed so much Oda just wasting important panel time on random characters reaction shots. Hopefully, the Void Month gave Oda enough time to recharge for the Final Saga so that we don't run into these kinds if issues again.

[@bendysbrother7447]

I agree with all of this except the Nika thing. GLR himself did a video on all the foreshadowing that went into it.

[@alejandroabraham4250]

Not to mention we have the same ticking time bomb island that is about to be destroyed because "insert reason here". It's also pretty lame that so much time was invested into the new characters that ultimately had zero importance moving forward and relegating the Strawhats to the back burner. No one got any sort of development outside of Luffy and like how it was mentioned in the video, it was forced. At least Momo got a sick glowup.

[@renziie2804]

@@bendysbrother7447 the nika fruit was foreshadowed long ago yes BUT the awakening itself is what he means thats out of place...GLR also put it in the list here...3 power ups in 1 arc... luffy was on the brink of death but cos he's the protagonist lets slap his awakening at that moment...theres also the quesion of HOW did he know what his awakening was capable of since he just awakened it...dont you need like a bit of training of some sorts to be battle ready at least

[@nachoalfonso2614]

@@bendysbrother7447 Nika wasn't foreshadowed. It was mentioned for the first time in Act 3 of Wano, 20 or so chapters before the reveal of Luffy's fruit. That reveal was absolute garbage.

[@obmis_arraid21]

@@renziie2804 Sabo did a hiken just after eating mera mera no mi, also cp9 guys ate their df just before the battle against strawhats.

[@gig7932]

Chimera ant arc is your third favorite arc in One Piece? Mine too!! Also could you continue the devil fruit encyclopedia?

[@cry8218]

What I thought chimera ant is in hxh if that's sarcasm sorry

[@Sn_da_1st]

I mean zoro was in that arc

[@DisgustDAnime]

shame on Liam........he didn't even include the rainbow mist arc! (god i got myself angry by just remembering about that :DD)

[@gig7932]

@@Sn_da_1st true but it wasn't as awesome as when he showed up in Konoha.

[@Goose_BooseYT]

God damn that ending was clever...

[@edwinkamarga8309]

totally agree with Liam on these notes, and we never get even a glimpse of what really happened with Jinbei's sun pirate crewmates after they managed to hold Big Mom.

[@Abyssionknight]

One of Oda's biggest weaknesses as a writer is how easily he gets side tracked with stuff not immediately relevant to the story. One of the anime's greatest weaknesses is that it can't catch up to the manga, so whenever it gets close it has to either draw things out excessively, or try to create filler content. I think with Wano they've finally realized that Oda's problem of extra content, and the anime's problem of a lack of extra content, go hand in hand. Oda can simply take those non-essential scenes, give them to the anime team, and all of a sudden Oda has a more streamlined story, while the anime team has 'canon filler' to help them stay behind the manga. With the end of Wano we've seen they clearly need to work on what details to pass on to the anime team, but I do think it's a good way to ensure the anime stays interesting to manga and anime fans, while at least giving Oda a chance at finishing the anime on his proposed timeline. So I'm personally expecting every arc will be like Wano from now on, where the anime is filling in all the gaps Oda leaves behind. If I'm right then scenes like Yamato's decision to stay behind, the conflict with Greenbull, Zoro going to Ryuma's shrine, all that ending stuff that was glossed over in the manga will get covered by the anime. Of course there's a chance I'm wrong, and this isn't the strategy they're using, but I really hope it is.

[@_NIKOS9_NIKOS]

Unpopular oppinion but Wano pretty much solidified my stance on Zorro. As in I will never really like him as a character as much as I like the rest of the crew. I mean at this point he only exists for cool fights and nothing alse aside from an occasional fight with Sanji. This was the best chance to expand his character/story but it either never happened or it was off screen and instead we got the same shtick as every other arc

[@DanyVanillust]

El Zorro

[@Yuh_zhimmy]

Yeah, it was stupid that even sanji had more of an arc in the land of one of the greatest swordsman than Zoro 💀

[@tomgu2285]

Yep that was dissapointing.

[@MarshallLeeFlames]

About the Jinbe appereance, I must give credit to him at least. I mean, sure, it's TOO convinient, but I think it's part convinience and part luck. He didn't know about the raid, but he knew that he had to go to Wano, and as a Gyojin, he had to go swimming, so it COULD be feasable that he arrived just in time to identify Mugiwara's Sunny and see that they were under attack.

[@bleepmybloop3645]

it's true, I felt nothing when izu died because I was always expecting them to come back.

[@garfield2306]

I think Big Mom and Kaido went to their secret lair underground to Subscribe to GrandLineReview before resuming the fight.

[@Houdm]

Wano being rushed just because of a movie and one that I personally didn’t really care for was honestly one of the most disappointing things for me in the whole of one piece. Had it not been rushed it would had fixed a lot of the small issues that wano had. I had 100% faith in Oda up until now. Now it’s like 70%.

[@isabellas.novack4727]

I agree with everything you said, especially that the Chimera Ant Arc was the third best arc in One Piece. Classic Oda at his best, great characters, though I must say it didn't really fit the tones of One Piece and felt a little too dark. There's also a few loose ends, thank god Oda is an extremely reliable author and we know he'll explain everything eventually.

[@jmayhue343]

Yea that chimera ant arc was insane even brought about a spin off not sure if it’s cannon though

[@Mcng2343]

The spider arc was the best

[@thepredman9lol266]

What on earth are you talking about

[@Mcng2343]

@@thepredman9lol266 One x Piece of course

[@goodklike4470]

I think we will go over kaidos backstory later in the story, because we will get more information about the rock pirates and their defeat and maybe a little bit of kaidos transformation over the years will be revealed. Cause I think we did not get his backstory in much depth cause it would show too much from rocks d. Xcebec (sry if I wrote it wrong idk how to write his name)

[@goodklike4470]

It is the same with whitebeard, he also has a big gap in his timeline, we still don't know

[@TitoVivek]

Had to check timing of the video to realise thats how this video actually ended. I burst out laughing right after, well played Liam.

[@Darkorb44]

Those last two points resonate with my soul.