Graphics card owners nightmare (SAMSUNG memory)

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[@panelvixen]

Turns head. Looks through glass side of case and sees 3060 graphics card with big glowing "Gigabyte" on the side of it. Starts sweating.

[@northwestrepair]

love reading comments. makes me laugh. Thanks !

[@Ogk10]

Please do not the gigabyte

[@martinmalone6324]

same, have 3060 and 4090 gigabytes, but there upright, so no sweating here 😉

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😰

[@Foga001]

He did the Gigabyte

[@ZaPirate]

Best explanation I have is that whoever sold these cards dropped the mining rig.

[@SkateClipsAndTips]

If you have a lightning storm going on a lot in your area or power outages, invest in a power surge strip to protect your hardware

[@northwestrepair]

Yes. i did.

[@SkateClipsAndTips]

My area has rolling blackouts during summer due to everyone blasting their ac's. I invested in a power surge strip high enough to support my pc. My worries are gone now, first casualty was my psu which saved my hardware. That's when I decided to buy a power surge strip

[@Apollo-Computers]

I always have used a good strip for my expensive electronics.

[@erwynnipegerwynnipeg8455]

Another solution if lighting storm is often: Unplug PC from wall during storm. That's what I always do

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😮

[@pp3v42_g3h]

Before you send the deadcore ones back, you should do an NRF parody where you inject 12V into the core for diag.

[@drinkintea1572]

Hello there mister pp3 😊

[@ariewijaya1679]

Injecting 12v on shorted core drmos is actually safe if the proble connected only very brief moment

[@pp3v42_g3h]

@@ariewijaya1679 hmmm no, that is exactly how you kill cores, anything above the breakdown voltage (which I don't know exactly but it should be around 2.5V) the chip gets damaged so fast you need special equipment to measure the time. Any time a high side short isn't causing a dead core it is because other parts like low side fets shunted the short and the load side never reached breakdown voltage.

[@ariewijaya1679]

@@pp3v42_g3h mafiya67 can repaired shorted drmos that put hole on PCB in power color RX 6600

[@northwestrepair]

LOL i already did that to a 3080ti while back.

[@TheRussRyde]

Tony, people seek relief from life’s woes in many ways. All we need is to watch your repairs and that is sufficient for everything else. I can’t thank you enough. Russ

[@northwestrepair]

lol no man i dont think its true 🤭

[@erwynnipegerwynnipeg8455]

@@northwestrepair It's true while having toothache I watch your videos to help me relax

[@ranjitmandal1612]

🙂‍↕️

[@10100rsn]

Guy probably doesn't have a support bar for the card and has a subwoofer under the desk right next to the PC.

[@oscar21781]

I have a support bracket but a subwoofer right next to my PC *sweating intensifies*

[@YeahNoTellTheTruth]

Very specific

[@BozesanVlad]

The client is haunted by B1 memory chip ghost. That's right, the client needs an exorcist. Or a shrink to fix the ghost's fixation on B1.

[@edgarperez6092]

These are my cards no mining from what i can tell cards were very clean except for the first 3070 which was used for some rendering but didn't work after light went out on a storm. By the way great work very pleased.

[@NonLegitNation2]

if not for mining what are you using 4 or 5 GPU's for?

[@northwestrepair]

Hello !

[@teddp]

Are you flipping PCs by the way?

[@JCmeister9]

@@NonLegitNation2 Maybe he's a reseller or uses them on pc builds that he could sell?

[@VladimirJog]

I have the same 3070. Do you run it undervolted? Or stock

[@Laggyness]

A few things probably caused this issue. PCB thickness, cooler weight, horizontal mounting. PCBs are probably thinner and more flexible than they should be to save cost of materials. Add a heavy cooler to it and mounting it into the pci slot will cause a flex area right around that memory chip area. Its probably why the cracks usually always form around the pci slot too. Now imagine moving the pc around with the card mounted in the case, its going to most likely cause issues right at the flex point close to the pci slot. I remember seeing a video JayztwoCents did a few years ago about how the coolers were getting too big and needed better support so for my gigabyte 3090 I went out to a hardware store and bought like maybe 10 dollars worth of hardware to make a support for my card and never had an issue with it until a mosfet blew. Then I had this genius fix it and its been working fine since then. Vertical mount or support your cards with something kids.👍

[@tourmaline07]

Agree - I have a 4080 Super Suprim which is a massive card weighing over 2kg , cannot imagine using it without a support brace tbh

[@Suresh_Pillai]

Gigabyte knows how to design a card very casually, making examples to other vendors to not to make the same mistake.. As always, Tony.. GREAT WORK! 👍👍

[@losslessthoughts]

I think that finger cutout in the PCB for the PCIe locking tab is rearing its ugly face again. It is a weak point, as you know, due to the many cracks that just so happen to spread from the inside corner of this cutout. With that material removed for the sake of our pudgy fingers, the PCB isn't as rigid and pivots/flexes on the inside corner of that deep cutout. I don't think it is a coincidence that not only has this caused cracking due to the weight of the coolers putting extra stress in this area but we also have memory pads ripping on the module closest to it. I noticed a lot of them were torn on one end of the chip, which tells me this is caused by the PCB flexing/deforming as if one end of the chip goes down, the other is going to want to go up. Something it wouldn't do if that large cutout wasn't there. There is a reason that Gigabyte has abandoned this cutout going forward, their RTX 40 Super series no longer have it!!! They went back to the "traditional" PCB style/tab. If only they took some accountability for it rather than just pointing at it when denying your RMA. The engineers that designed and OK'd that cutout should be fired. Anyone with an ounce of sense would think about how removing that material is going to weaken the PCB and greatly reduce rigidity. People will say "but, but, Asus cards have cracked their too and they don't have that cutout, just the small tab" Yeah, all this proves is that even the traditional PCB design is no match for UPS/FedEx handling. With how large and heavy graphics card coolers have become we should not be shipping them installed in a pre built. They were never designed for this! These cards aren't just spontaneously cracking under their own weight, I bet every one of these cracked GPUs have come out of a prebuilt or a PC that was moved too roughly. When I move my PC I handle it like a newborn even though I only buy cases with horizontal motherboard orientation due to its superiority. Vertical GPU FTW, riser cards FTL. Who would of thought that one day we would be putting extension cords on our PCIe slots lol.

[@f0x4nn3]

with so many of the same GPUs from the same owner i assume they came out of a mining rig?

[@edwardhewer8530]

+1 for saving these cards and making such relaxing videos. You have a gift.

[@robertd5674]

I can’t wait for your next vid ! You make this entertaining and informative! Thanks

[@SianaGearz]

Gravity needs to brace for a class action lawsuit someday.

[@northwestrepair]

lol

[@gertbenade3082]

And thunderstorms....

[@DanijelRepairFreak]

I'm not in love with gigabjte, but I think the problem is with the owner this time. Something with its case, a screw not tightened, the weight of the GPU itself, + GPU sag, inadequate cooling at the VRAM B1 location, maybe the PSU is turned the wrong way so the fan blows hot air into the GPU (flaping component+B1), all together. Hmmm, I don't know, and who cares ;). Cheers from Croatia...

[@q1337]

PSA If there is a lightning storm and you unplug your PC REMEMBER TO UNPLUG THE ETHERNET CABLE, learned that the hard way, my motherboard Asus Maximus VI Extreme survived with everything attached to it with the exception of the onboard NIC, does not detect a cable anymore but still reports fully operational in device manager. I quite literally unplugged everything else and thought "what difference would it make if i left the ethernet in" and damn was I wrong, the port on the PC, port on the ISP modem/router, the ISP's coaxial repeater on the street all got fried. Lesson learned, buy an ethernet surge protector, if you use DOCSIS.

[@Junior_POA]

If I had been drinking coffee, I would have washed the monitor with the laugh on a black screen part. 😊😊😊

[@TheFirestorm240]

Nice video, 4/5 fixed is damn impressive, keep it up!

[@farfromerease]

the fart button click made me fart

[@BlazeFox89]

IMO often it's not the lightning that causes the damage to the card but the resulting brown out causing SCR lockup in the power supply. A typical PSU usually has 5kv of insulation from the line side to load so it's rare for a surge to pass through. Something to note is a DSL modem doesn't have 5kv of insulation so ethernet is often a way for damaging voltages to get in

[@GabrielRodrigues-fg6ex]

Monitors can be a way too, as they are directly connected to the GPU via HDMI or DP...

[@ion1984]

yeah the fact that all these chips are B1 and that is the one closest to the place where the most force is on the card, is 100% from the cards flexing, sagging, probably unsupported, and ripping the pads off the chip. From the moment mine comes out of the box I treat them like an egg, and put the support on before I stand up the case. I have a Gigabyte Eagle, and my last card was the same, and both have been excellent. Both out-perform the benchmarks for these cards on furmark so - just have to treat them like glass.

[@BreWLanS]

tony hi and congrats for another great video, a question here .. whats the best position for the graphic cards i got some cards mostly standing on riser you know using the metalic rig. anyways since i see alot of gpus failing by using the classic pc hanging style im wondering how can i try to prevent those errors

[@bahadoromid3554]

Thank You!

[@bufalong]

i from vietnam love your video feel like ASMR when watching

[@tonict2302]

Awesome video

[@WXSTANG]

My guess as to why there is a pad problem isn't because of the chips but because of GPU sag. That is the point of highest stress when inserted into the PCI slot so the first chip to go would always be the one near the PCI slot. The heavier the GPU, the more likely ripped pads would occure.

[@stormanimal83]

Awesome! ❤

[@DGOfTheCentury]

Makes me nervous about my AMD Gigabyte card, but knowing you could potentially fix it puts my mind at ease lol.

[@youssefsordo1656]

Love video gpu

[@DanielCardei]

Awesome fix. I wonder if you get to keep the GPU that was shocked. i`m just curios how many components where fried.

[@PappaLitto]

4 fixed cards in what? a day? Crazy.

[@drewnewby]

It will sound silly to some, but this is why my tower systems are on their side. All my rigs sitting just like my 486 desktop, less mechanical stress on cpu heatsinks, and heavy video cards. Also happier fans, since they like vertical orientation best.

[@barbarianzg8826]

i remember one of yours quotes,Tony,and would never forget itthe shiet outside is bad at protecting the shiet from insidei wrote down this quote on a piece of paper if i ever get the power of Alzheimer

[@mrlithium69]

True skill

[@TewaAya]

My country is also prone to these along with power fluctuating and brownouts. Hope I'll get a ups to prevent this.

[@muramusan]

I'd say since the chip is in the mid section it's the one that gets all the weight and bangs of the card when it should be evenly done guess they don't got that down😂

[@mili0025]

manifacrurer solder almost all components while al boarrd is hott,when the board coles down gives presure to chips/memoryes and that is why almost alweis they rip pads on the corners(if riped corners is "stress" from up/down temperatures)

[@zodiacfml]

interesting. maybe the owner has an unusual installation setup and owning multiple cards, maybe GPU mining? but then, gpu riser cards are mostly installed vertically

[@syzuna_]

hold on! I was happy I got a model with Samsung Memory and not the hynix or micron BS and now you release a video with 5 dead GPUs with Samsung memory? *panic mode activated*

[@northwestrepair]

yep. they rip pads like crazy.

[@pp3v42_g3h]

use a GPU support and don't kick the pc down the stairs and it will be fine. it is more like manufacturers used Samsung a lot more on these cards compared to other brands, any ram would rip pads if there is a twisting force. There should be no force...

[@konstantinosvakouftsis4086]

@@northwestrepair Is there any gpu that you actually recommend?

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😨

[@xitywampas]

What do you think about mounting the GPU/mainboard with the IO up? That way it's kind of hanging. I think the best would be IO down so it sits on the bracket but I don't know of any case like that.

[@Seth22087]

I only had one card meet lighting strike during thunderstorm. And all that did was to downgrade it to 640x480 resolution and 16 colors, without bits, just 16 colors. It was long ago back when Windows 95 was current release, but at that time I first saw error message saying that game requires at least 256 color mode. MS-DOS games didn't mind though. Was a lot nicer when PSU died on me though, which decided to go boom when I tried to power it on... though I was kid back then so it was kind of like me spamming power button, because I saw fan twitch a bit. It was easy to diagnose where the issue was though, I mean between sparks and smoke, it got pretty obvious what was unhappy. :-D

[@Ali-S]

Can you make a short video on how to download and use NVIDIA MODS/MATS? Since I downloaded the one for the 3000 series from the link you shared in the description, but it's not showing the menu, and it always fails, even though card is fine.

[@u9Nails]

That was funny! B1 for the lose!

[@TboneLoyal]

What’s the build you use to test the cards? Power and connectors. Any schematics on the build or diy on it. Would like to build one myself. Thanks.

[@Dullahan_1]

Bought one of those adjustable gpu supports , like just a single stick and you adjust it based on the height. Is it enough?

[@taskinyucekurt]

Probably gravity works diffrent in his case....

[@chrisfeaka4250]

Dude you need to try valheimraft mod! So awesome!

[@armstrongskyview2810]

Great video, do you repair gpu's for anyone. I have a cuda p6000 and it has artifax. I reside in Singapore but happy to ship. Thanks and yes you can film the repair.

[@northwestrepair]

You have to contact me via email or discord

[@armstrongskyview2810]

@@northwestrepair what are the contact details please

[@user-vsmsdos]

This is why I buy UPS

[@davedm6345]

Maybe is the Quality of the soldered tin on those sides making it decayed and obsoletes at some time or temperature.

[@bluedistortions]

Quality would be the same across chips. That area is where there is the most flex stress. These cards are famous for flex damage. Need extra support brackets, especially when extra cooler weight is put on them.

[@kentstansberry9748]

@northwestrepair Which cards do you recommend?

[@EinSwitzer]

Here’s one for ya bud ripped pads means = defective ram chip don’t worry your doing good

[@aours]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@iesdise]

Hey, do you edit those yourself? xD

[@Dingbat1967]

Wonder if the common thread here is something in the motherboard he's putting these GPUs in?

[@ATREES]

I have a gigabyte 3080 ti that used to get the infamous black screen %100 fan speed issue while gaming. I used to ignore it and just restart my PC since it only happened on one game, Ready or Not. Until that one day while I was playing the same game my PC shutdown as if it lost power completely. VGA light turned ON during start up. GPU is dead. I tested it on another PC, same result. MONTHS later I tried it and it worked!!? the issue that it has now is that one of the two 8 pins only draws 2.90w while the other works fine. Voltage on both pins is 12.1/ 12.2. Any idea what could be the issue with it?

[@4sp3ro]

Thanks big bus

[@TriodeTetrode]

Noticed some pads missing on PCB at 6:21. Probably not needed if GPU worked after repair. Did you check them as well?

[@LOLHoneybadger]

Them all having the same sort of damage in the exact same spot on several different cards screams abuse, probably a mining rig accident would be my guess, like others have commented. This is why I don't recommend anyone buy from the used market for 30-series cards, too many dangerous mining-rig cards that are damaged in one way or another, and some of it isn't even detectable at first because it's degradation from abuse that won't necessarily show until weeks or months down the line sometimes.

[@AladimBR]

What about a power APS? Running my computers, TV, receiver, etc on APS since 1998, no issues so far. I think it helps also to have a longer life, as power fluctuations are not an issue. I see people replace TVs every 4-5 years, mine reach 10 easily. Coincidence?

[@FranklinClinton1]

❤

[@HackerBusting]

How do you feel about baking cards that are malfunctioning? How often does baking fix?

[@CarlosDeBernardMrAgapi]

Tell the client to replace the board or at least send for inspection. Aside other components

[@teddp]

Modern PSUs are supposed to protect the whole system from extreme power events. I would really like to know the PSU of the PC with the first card.

[@DeathGrandMaster]

Hey Tony, which brand would you recommend for an NVIDIA card?

[@coladict]

I guess that's the chip whose joints are experiencing the most stress from the weight deformation. But why would Gigabyte care, so long as it survives until its warranty date?

[@HackingFunDotCom]

So what kind of RTX 4080 should I buy? may MSI gaming X trio? Asus TUF?

[@cinlung]

What glue do you use to put ripped pads back and is that glue able to withstand heat?

[@drewnewby]

electronics epoxy, or maybe even a bit of solder mask cured after might work in a pinch.

[@hmello3250]

I own a gigabyte card but it has two support brackets. Hope it survives.

[@EinSwitzer]

I’m. Nitro as in amd sapphire divisions

[@stewiegriffin6503]

biiig booos, biiig boooss

[@SidneyCritic]

You can tell no one ran a stress analysis on those PCBs - lol -. 1:30 Aren't shorts in chips always localised, ie, not all over like the vid, and what is that part getting hot at the bottom.

[@greebuh]

Surge protectors work more often than not.

[@kamilhorvat8290]

there must be a pad ripping fairy roaming around

[@TheMusicHeals.kjhjhhg]

you know what in my 25 years of using AMD card i have never had one just fail. I can not think or one.

[@hungv-rg9kq]

Sir, I have i7 11700k and rtx 3080 gaming oc with 32Gb Ram on my PC ( Atlas OS). Can you show me how to optimize PUBG to stop the stuttering fps ? I disabled HD Audio as your video but it didn't work too much on stuttering.

[@roki977]

my 1st ever GPU was killed buy lightning but i managed to RMA it, it was ATI 1900 gt and i hated it bcs i was fooled by its name and it was running hot.. But later i got EVGA 8800 gt and that thing was even hotter but i had to try two in sli and than i got two single slot GPUs running at 100c just to get 2 more fps in Crysis, good old days..

[@uniqueangel]

I got an old pc like hp brebuild so I used that motherboard and I put in my old tower and I want to buy a ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 4070 Super OC, I got a 1200w powersupply, will it work ? I know about bottleneck xD, it's just temporary until I build a pc.. because I can access all part at once..

[@EliasCamacho04]

That owner needs gpu support.😅

[@XantheFIN]

Samsung and other.. hynix? who uses similar design.. if you zoom in pads they have usually two thin connections to microchip.. Others uses full circle to the pad.

[@gorytarrafa]

I want to buy an RTX 4070Ti super or a 4080 super , what brands of 40 series do you think are good apart from Asus that we know is overrated af.

[@MJPilote]

I just had a regular size bite. No giga… wait dang it there is a gigabyte 3080 in my computer. I hope it’s not biting the memory chips.

[@Tutankhamun1333]

Hmm Gigabyte and Samsung is a artifact combo.

[@gbember3470]

Hi! Is that Linux ISO you use to test VRAM available?

[@northwestrepair]

yes. not exactly the same but yes

[@gbember3470]

@@northwestrepair Could you send a link to it? I couldn't find it, especially with the developer name being the name of politicians lol

[@chupaaachup4552]

From your experience which brand makes the best quality cards?

[@inou2222]

I think he said one time EVGA.

[@chupaaachup4552]

@@inou2222 thx bro. Evga is an excellent brand indeed. I had one in the past but just bought a new asus 4070, which feels really crap (plastic)

[@xrafter]

I don't understand the memory pads part. Are the pads like the pins in LGAs ?

[@SianaGearz]

Well yes the LGAs don't have pins either, they have pads, called lands. These chips are BGA, the bottom external layer is a substrate which is a type of PCB with exposed copper contact areas (pads), which have solder balls pre-applied to them from the IC packaging factory. Thus the name ball grid array (BGA) instead of land grid array (LGA). LGA come in two types, one type is for socketing, where copper is hard gold plated. And other type is for soldering, where the solder paste pre-applied to the PCB forms the solder joint, then the pads on the IC are immersion plated, usually with tin. But the precision of applying paste with a stencil isn't as high as pre-applying solder balls, so for high contact density soldered connections, BGA is the choice. But otherwise LGA and BGA are very very similar.

[@xrafter]

@SianaGearz Can't he re apply the solder balls then? Or he was sure the pads was "broken"?

[@SianaGearz]

@@xrafter He does reapply the balls, but that's specifically the issue, the pads are broken. The copper detaches from the substrate due to impact and perhaps due to original solder quality and is no longer connected. The traces and vias on the IC substrate are a lot thinner than on a normal PCB, it's not suitable for repair. Connection between solder and pads is normally very strong, since it forms connecting surface alloys. Connection between pads and substrate... it depends, but normally it's impossible to make epoxy to metal bond quite as strong, and these ICs might be particularly weak.

[@xrafter]

@@SianaGearz Thanks a lot!

[@1kreature]

Maybe someone bought a lot sold by a system integrator that had shipped systems with poorly secured gpu's ?

[@bankhead832]

do you know of anyone in houston tx that does this i have 3080 gigabyte that wont post

[@TheAhsanxXx]

can you share this nvidia gpu testing utility image

[@worroSfOretsevraH]

Can't you fix ripped memory pads like you do with ripped PCB pads?

[@cecilchan1988]

What happened with the strix card?

[@northwestrepair]

It became a donor PCB was cracked too much and it has lots of ripped pads under the core on top of that.

[@dipjyotichoudhury8816]

Reasons why pad gets ripped and anything we can do to avoid it ?? 😅 Have a Gigabyte Windforce 2X RTX 3060 and i am in constant fear...

[@sibak3r02]

Probably mining cards?

[@northwestrepair]

Hard to tell. All broke the same except for one. Also all came from same seller.

[@user-kx1vt6gq3p]

Rx 580 2048sp black screen when puting driver

[@maboblivion]

GigaWeight

[@OcelotTheFurious]

Gygabyte, just like zotac is bottom shelf trash, with asus right above them but still at the bottom

[@israfilisra8696]

can anyone explain me why the first GPU was beyond repair?

[@fleurdewin7958]

Because the core is definitely dead. There was a short from 12V rail to ground. So when he plug in all power connectors , and fire the GPU up, thermal camera shows core glows hot. It means the core is receiving 12V instead of 0.785~1.085V that it was designed to operate with. So the core is definitely toast.

[@Scott99259]

My new Rtx 4070 Super has Samsung Memory i am scared now 😢.

[@ofon2000]

rtx 4070 runs pretty cool...rtx 4070 super runs a bit hotter...keep in mind GPU temp is not the same as hotspot temperature. hotspot is typically 10-25c higher than the "Gpu temperature"

[@northwestrepair]

no but you gotta be crefull

[@draakevil]

Lead-free solder was a mistake.