Cut-Rate Commander | Hail, Caesar Precon Upgrade Guide

[@GrazzetMTG]

Hey folks! Please see below for the full list of upgrade suggestion made in the video, check out the link in the description for the full decklist, and let me know in the comments if you agree with my changes, disagree, and/or what changes you think I missed! ---------------------------- Tokens --------------------------- Butch DeLoria, Tunnel Snake >>> Thalisse, Reverent Medium Desdemona, Freedom's Edge >>> Anim Pakal, Thousandth Moon Aradesh, the Founder >>> Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin Kellogg, Dangerous Mind >>> Adeline, Resplendent Cathar White Glove Gourmand >>> Skyknight Vanguard Sierra, Nuka's Biggest Fan >>> Loyal Apprentice Survivor's Med Kit >>> Skrelv's Hive Wild Wasteland >>> Court of Embereth Thrill-Kill Disciple >>> Hanweir Garrison Ruthless Radrat >>> Hero of Bladehold Battle of Hoover Dam >>> Horn of Gondor Mysterious Stranger >>> Rabble Rousing Heroic Reinforcements >>> Call the Coppercoats Captain of the Watch >>> Elspeth, Sun's Champion ---------------------------------- Death Matters ---------------------------------- Impassioned Orator >>> Elas il-Kor, Sadistic Pilgrim Legate Lanius, Caesar's Ace >>> Zulaport Cutthroat Stolen Strategy >>> Cruel Celebrant MacCready, Lamplight Mayor >>> Teysa Karlov ---------------------------------- Attacking Matters ---------------------------------- Yes Man, Personal Securitron >>> Commissar Severina Raine Mr. House, President and CEO >>> Isshin, Two Heavens as One ---------------------------------- Ramp ---------------------------------- Charisma Bobblehead >>> Rakdos Signet Luck Bobblehead >>> Boros Signet Black Market >>> Orzhov Signet ---------------------------------- Removal ---------------------------------- Hour of Reckoning >>> Swords to Plowshares The Nipton Lottery >>> Path to Exile Entrapment Maneuver >>> Generous Gift ---------------------------------- Land ---------------------------------- Memorial to Glory >>> Caves of Koilos Windbrisk Heights >>> Battlefield Forge ---------------------------------- Additional Upgrades ---------------------------------- Horn of Gondor >>> Myrel, Shield of Argive Marshal's Anthem >>> Warleader's Call Vault 75: Middle School >>> Ojer Taq, Deepest Foundation Paladin Elizabeth Taggerdy >>> Mondrak, Glory Dominus Rabble Rousing >>> Anointed Procession

[@Basprens]

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[@IsaacFNghost]

I think I’m going to do all of these upgrades except for the mega expensive ones at the end, and if I enjoy the way they the deck plays, I’ll buy the expensive card upgrades over time :) currently main an Izzet artifact heavy deck with Saheeli the Gifted as my Commander from an oooold prebuilt that I’ve upgraded. Hoping this one will feel much different

[@IsaacFNghost]

Love the artwork of the secret hideout btw! Won my first game with the upgraded deck last night! (Still waiting on some of the upgrades to come in the mail) it’s a lot of fun

[@tneC0mment0r]

A great upload as usual. Loved the explanations and can’t wait to show my friends, who just picked up some of the fallout precons, your videos as great jumping off points for future upgrades and insight into deck building/improvements!

[@GrazzetMTG]

Glad you enjoy my work and thank you for sharing it this your friends! Its thanks to folks like you that this channel keep growing!

[@tylervigil154]

I used this video to upgrade my deck and let me tell you this was amazing u 200% know what your talking about I’m new to magic and had no idea how to upgrade and this was perfect !!

[@aymanmz]

Thanks for the video. Was getting Hail Caesar just to get some of the new cards. Definitely sticking with that as this deck looks like a token good stuff

[@GrazzetMTG]

Glad you enjoyed it! There are certainly some very decent cards for token centric decks in this build whether you going to upgrade the build or strip if for parts - making it a decent one to pick up overall in my opinion.

[@f3lcrow]

I'm going to try adding in Ankle Shanker myself. Wanted to focus more on the "Just attack with everything" playstyle and Ankel Shanker helps creatures do that safely or force opponent to make bade trades.

[@nickatwork]

Another great upgrade guide. My vote has gotta be for Mr. House. Dice Rolling seems like a really fun theme, and if you consider fitting in attractions I'd love it even more

[@GrazzetMTG]

Glad you enjoyed it! It looks like Mr. House is running away with this poll, so you may very well get you wish! Attractions are a cool idea too for even more die rolling, so I may have to see I can slot a few in.

[@MrShazaamable]

​@GrazzetMTG ive heard the attractions can feel a bit slow to play.. BUT ill wait n see what you feel is best!

[@leozmaxwelljilliumz3360]

Never ceases to amaze me how budget upgrades can dramatically affect performance. Thanks again, grazzet!

[@erebos42]

I'm surprised Hanweir Garrison didn't also prompt cutting in Hanweir Battlements to have a haste granting utility land that can upgrade the Garrison into a 7/4 hasty trampler that creates two 3/2s instead of two 1/1s every combat in the late game

[@evilphilanthropist7908]

".....while also quite fittingly doubling the price of our deck." 😂 some good picks in this upgrade. thanks for sharing.

[@nathanmontgomery7865]

Easy vote for MR House. He always wins.

[@GrazzetMTG]

Honestly, the tagline of the deck may very well be "The (Mr) House always wins" at this point... I think I may actually use that one...

[@MrShazaamable]

Lets goooo ​@@GrazzetMTG

[@kennyboi01]

My sequoia didn't seem to think he won.

[@CelticDad2022]

I bought this deck and upgraded it with all of these cards, minus the last 3 non budget friendly upgrades lol. Won 3 out of the 5 games I've played it and it's definitely becoming a new favorite lol

[@IsaacFNghost]

I was thinking of cutting one of the white removal cards for a more expensive (but mega powerful) white removal card “Farewell” which I think is around $9 rn

[@danieldragotti2608]

Two cards I'm testing with are invasion of Kylem and tolvada. Kyle gets to 3/2 that gradually get bigger and tolvada becomes a nice anthem while making flyers on your end step.

[@pbhill8350]

Nicely done,love token decks.i've built a Mr house deck recently, it's quite the beast, would like to see your take on him

[@GrazzetMTG]

Glad to hear you enjoyed it! Mr. House is currently running away with the poll, so it looks like you'll be seeing my take on him soon.

[@taylorjohnson5148]

Looking through my cards and saw I had Brazen cannonade. Since we expect attacking creatures to die, it feels like it could fit this deck

[@Bluggato]

Just saw this and agree with all of your picks. They were even better than mine. Subbed

[@nottomcruise]

great upgrade list, but curious why impact tremors, warleader's call, and/or purphoros is missing from a token build?

[@taylorjohnson5148]

I feel like since this deck has white, keeper of the accord is super good. helps with lands and potentially creatures if someone else happens to have more on board. there might be other stuff to help catch up with lands though someone might know that I'm drawing a blank on

[@taylorjohnson5148]

Haha just realized the deck already has it

[@benrichardson5662]

Glad I'm not the only one who thought it was odd that the deck had so many legendaries. I don't mind this in and of itself, I have a General Ferrous Rockiric deck that has a lot of legends, but if it hinders what you're trying to do it kinda cramps my style.

[@GrazzetMTG]

Yeah. On the upside through, it means we have more legendary creatures to build around - so at least their is a silver lining.

[@benrichardson5662]

@@GrazzetMTG I would even call it a gold lining. Taggerdy, Lyons and Boone are all bucking for spots in my Ferrous and/or Isshin decks.

[@brandonburgess3548]

I fully agree with these upgrades, i like it alot, good video👍 time to start upgrading my deck ig😂

[@GrazzetMTG]

Happy to hear you concur with my choices here and best of luck to you with you build!

[@Dom-zx4vk]

I followed a few of these along with a few other goodies . I remember I saw someone say they would combine this deck the imperium and the chaos deck . No clue how it turned out or if it's really possible if so send a deck list of it I want to see what they did with it .

[@Galchoo1]

Ave, Caesar! Obvious references aside, amazing vid as always! Next up... ooh, moth! Nice! I wonder if Koth will be in the Moth deck. As for the vote, well, enchantment untappy Settlement Man still keeps mine. Day 314 of waiting for the face reveal... got a favourite Precon Upgrade?

[@GrazzetMTG]

Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for commenting & voting as always! Then regarding my Favorite Precon Upgrade... if we're talking about this set - probably Mutant Menance since its a mechanically different take on +1/+1 counters & mill that makes stand out more than the other 3 in my opinion. But if we're talking in general.... That ones harder. Maybe the Warhammer 40 Ruinous Powers Precon? There was a LOT wrong with that deck out of the box but I really like Abaddon as a commander and had quite a bit of fun building it.

[@alondite3]

Love the build and I can’t wait to make these upgrades! My votes goin to Liberty Prime! I want to see a huge robot crashing into people, also energy isn’t as popular as other mechanics and I’d like to see it come back

[@GrazzetMTG]

Glad to hear it and thanks for voting! Liberty Prime is certainly a fun build around and, even if it doesn't win this poll (since Mr. House has a condierable lead at the moment), we may certainly see this Robot again in future polls for another shot.

[@IslarfPokemon]

I got an insane Thalisse reverent medium. I think so many cards will port here well!

[@GrazzetMTG]

Yeah, there is a lot of overlap so I can see a lot of the same cards being used in both.

[@fumbles176]

Just curious why no mirkwood bats? Feel like it would slot perfectly into this deck.

[@h0tl1n3]

Great upgrade guide, but I feel very torn on removing Black Market from the deck, considering it's all about getting back value from creatures dying. I'd much rather remove Lethal Scheme from the decklist and keep it, considering that the mana curve won't be affected too much.

[@supersalty_9459]

HAIL, GRAZZET!

[@GrazzetMTG]

Gratias tibi ago

[@benrichardson5662]

There's a lot of cards I'd like to use in my Isshin deck. Don't like the aesthetics so I guess I'm commissioning some proxies. Not that I'm bothered because some of these cards have awfully high price tags on their own.

[@GrazzetMTG]

I can understand that. Commissioning proxies and/or alters can be a solid way to keep the decks aesthetics without sacrificing performance.

[@PedroPedro-k9p]

Do a mr house deck, that's the coolest card in the whole fallout collection.

[@GrazzetMTG]

The polls show that he's in the lead, so I may just have to if he can hold on to it until Friday!

[@childofodin]

this deck seems terrifying

[@alondite3]

Hey Grazzet, the deck looks awesome and I’ve already made the upgrades to it based on your recommendations. Is there any chance we could get an update on the mana base?

[@quezer0]

Just adjust manabase to ur preference and budget. The fewer tapped lands the faster u can tempo

[@ben59320]

Did you include Teysa to double the death trigger effect on Caesar? Because it doesn't work, I asked my friend and it's the cost of the ability so it's not a death trigger. Maybe I misunderstood the use of Teysa in the deck, I'm interested in getting your opinion on this ! I'll test this deck in commander tonight, looking forward :D

[@SilverWolf89936]

The creature died, no matter the cause, so yes it triggers Teysa. Your friend doesn’t know what he’s talking about

[@xWaRLoRDxx]

Yeah a creature dying causes you to make 2 tapped attacking tokens so it doubles the tokens

[@ElijahCastillo-y9j]

Actually he does​, teysa doubles reflexive triffers, caesar doesn't reflexively trigger his

[@xWaRLoRDxx]

Welcoming vampire may be pretty decent in this deck

[@MEver316]

​@@ElijahCastillo-y9j wrong way around. Teysa only doubles ordinary triggers. Caesar Reflexively triggers his so it won't work.

[@eduilsonnunes449]

Great upgrades !

[@Urathamax]

I'm not arguing with the suggested changes. Not one bit. But it does kinda feel like the deck could be summarized as "Take out Caesar, build a deck around him properly". I've been shocked at how unfocused this precon is ☹️

[@RealFakeGoose]

The precon has unfocused cards but as a whole its all Attack Sac Buff and that prett clear and most of the cards do that well

[@MawsYT]

Honestly, I’m just now upgrading it, but I’ve beat my friend’s 3 out of the 4 times I played with it as is. It’s a pretty decent precon tbh

[@IslarfPokemon]

I wanna use charismatic conqueror, but vampires seem out of flavour for this build

[@willowthywisp]

This caught me off guard, but Caesar is pronounced "See-Zur," not Kai-zur. Edit: I was incorrect. Only Caesar's Legions call him "Kai-zur," while everyone else call him "See-Zur." Been a while since I played NV.

[@BoopBoop508]

It’s either or. In new Vegas it’s both. Legion soldiers call him Kai-Zar while NCR and non legion owned citizens call him “See-zur”

[@willowthywisp]

@@BoopBoop508Ah, yes! I forgot, and have edited my comment.

[@GrazzetMTG]

Yep, I was divided on which one to call him in the video, but ultimately decided to go with the way he pronounces it since it is his name after all. Both are correct though.

[@power_SERG]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Flipzy18]

can’t bring myself to upgrade these precons. can’t take fallout art out for non fallout cards. it’s like the whole reason i bought these lol

[@GrazzetMTG]

I understand completely. The major appeal of these is the fact that we're able to experience the world of the Universes IP they are representing - so adding in "normal" cards can water down the experience. My goal is to try to power these builds up on a budget, but I can fully understand running these as is if you value favor over optimization (which is a fair stance to take - especially for Universes Beyond).

[@kennyboi01]

No myreal shield of argive?

[@GrazzetMTG]

Sadly they were much too pricey to recommend in the upgrade proper (Around $16 at the time of posting this) but they did make the additional upgrades section if you want to spend a bit more since they do absolutely fantastic as both a token generator and as a way to prevent interaction on our turn so we can crack in unimpeded.

[@Optimator7]

Awesome

[@roobistv]

His name is not kaiser...ceaser like the guy who got stabbed a bunch.

[@GruntpocalypseGaming]

its the other way around, caeser (rome) is pronounced kaiser. In fallout the characters dont know this (like most people) so they say caeser

[@vinciner4te]

Kai-sar is the Latin pronunciation while See-zar is the Anglicized pronunciation. Both are correct, but the Legion uses the Latin pronunciation in the game.

[@GruntpocalypseGaming]

@vinciner4te in the game they call him kai sar its not that hard

[@vinciner4te]

@@GruntpocalypseGaming I literally said this in my reply. Can you not read?

[@oxtim394]

Preston Garvey!

[@GrazzetMTG]

Prestons got a long way to to if he wants to catch up to Mr. House, but we'll see what happens!

[@nathanmontgomery7865]

The only way to properly build Preston is to build a taxes and stax deck to annoy your opponents to death. Play winter orb after you have a few settlements and only you will be able to untap lands. Dont forget to fortify your settlements. I got word they need protecting.

[@oxtim394]

@@nathanmontgomery7865 that's the flavor win, for sure 😅

[@Destiny2isthebestever]

I don't like how this goes away from full human tribal.

[@S0ftSurv]

Is this an AI voice? I just can't imagine a human talking like this with the random uptick in cadence at the end of every few words.

[@BussyConnoisseur]

Yeah, it sound like he's questioning everything statement he's making lol

[@bryanwilliams7907]

He talks like a robot too, no inflection between words

[@S0ftSurv]

@@bryanwilliams7907 yea it doesn’t seem real at all

[@xWaRLoRDxx]

So basically trash 80% this deck and make a new one

[@smoke2thedome]

Lmao bought a $60 pre-released deck and spent about another $75 to keep up with the other non-upgraded commander decks.

[@xWaRLoRDxx]

@@smoke2thedome I'm not impressed. It can roll out and be a threat somewhat in some games but it's not anything that can take on a giant board state or anything that flies.

[@deviousalemanni4235]

​@@xWaRLoRDxxit works pretty good in my opinion

[@deviousalemanni4235]

He changed 10 cards

[@xWaRLoRDxx]

@@deviousalemanni4235there's actually 20++

[@timothydillard1355]

Why are you talking like that??

[@SilverWolf89936]

Because he is lazy and uses a AI voice.

[@bombs2fair]

​@@SilverWolf89936That's his actual voice guys. He's not being lazy. Grazzet produces good quality videos as is. He's got good production quality and makes the effort to edit everything.