GREAT NEWS! RX 9070XT Price Update | RTX 5060 Release Date

[@T1000BG]

As a Bulgarian I can attest that our stores massively overprice stuff. It's like as if stores are the scalpers over here. We also have a 20% sales tax.

[@v4skunk739]

Same every where. I'm leaving it till summer to upgrade.

[@bergdk237]

Same here things are crazy to, and on top we have a 25% sales tax.

serbia is better LOL

[@areenazoian818]

more than likely it was a publicity stunt to get their name out.

[@nigelbellecoste1391]

European countries are failures in general... overtaxed to hell

[@VoldoronGaming]

Why do people keep talking about fake 899 price? Clicks and views of course instead of waiting for logic and reason to cooler heads to prevail.

[@26Guenter]

People have the memory of a gold fish. Jack Huyen, or someone else from Radeon; last year in an interview said top Navi 48 was going to be well under $800.

[@ilbro7874]

​@@26Guenternever heard that before, nice. I also did not believe the $899 because its obviously stupid and to believe it one would probably have no deductive reasoning skills.

[@lamikal2515]

@@26Guenter CorpoSpeak : "well" does not have any binding force, it could be 799.

[@camdustin9164]

People also cling the fake 4080 performance just because that 1 leak place the 9070xt performance closer the 4080 instead of the 4070 ti super, ignoring the fact that in that leak, the difference between the 4080 and 4070 ti super is 3fps

[@camdustin9164]

Also that 899 also included in 20% tax EU users have to pay, so the before-tax MSRP is 749, which is well with the realm of possibility of AMD price.

[@mrpirate2669]

I'm sure you know but for anyone whop isn't aware, European price leaks will include the local tax, to convert European leaks to USD you would need to reduce them by ~20% to get the pre tax price and convert that to USD to get the MSRP as US MSRP doesn't include sales taxes.

[@ironfreddy3192]

Even that would not be accurate because the retailers inflate the prices. In Germany, I am looking at RTX 5080 at 1470 dollars (1420 euros) starting price. MSRP being 999 dollars.

[@dpleech1]

That's still only about $1100 when you knock sales tax off.

[@tiberiumirica8445]

yes, you are correct, the US MSRP would be around 730 USD for a EU price of 899USD. and for the non EU ppl, thath's roughly the price a 7900XT si in EU as we speak, 800 to 950 USD

[@AndrewTSq]

You can find 7900xtx for that price on sales here, so not sure that is a good price?.

[@jochenkraus7016]

​@ironfreddy3192 I think RTX5000 isn't a good example at the moment because availability isn't good.

[@mraltoid19]

$550 is my limit for graphics card. Picked up the RX-7900GRE. I don't think the RTX-5070 is going to be substantially faster than the 7900GRE. However, IF the 9070XT is 85% of the RTX-5080 for $550, I can be convinced to do a bit of an upgrade.

[@SirRainis]

If you are located in US, prepare your ass for little price upgrade as well😅 Need to pay that sweet tariff money.

[@MrBlitsBlits]

I got a RX 7800XT for 500€ with a 80€ cashback = 420€. I was super happy with the price. I have noticed that the next generation of GPU newer seems to be tempting. They are always like 30% more expensive, they use 20% more power and are 15% more powerful. I do not want a 800€ GPU that uses like 500W of power. I would rather dial back some settings. I will buy a GPU when one comes to sale and I feel like I need an upgrade.

[@v4skunk739]

You should up your budget by 100. Also wait a few months to upgrade. I remember when the top tier gpu cost no more than £500....

[@jeasyyoutube63]

Id buy myself a 650€ including tax 4080 super performance atleast 16 gb

[@EldenLord00]

lol. You must be kidding, 550$ for this card is the best deal of a GPU ever

[@Bunuffin]

I will not pay over 600 euro for it, I will keep my RX6950xt

[@TurtleMagic87]

Cool story. I'll be upgrading my 7800xt. 😂

[@djnes2k7]

That doesn’t even make sense you can’t even buy a 7900xt for $600 how would a newer faster card be under that price point?

[@ben8384]

The 6950 XT is an amazing GPU. Honestly, there is no need to rush an upgrade.

[@akathenugget]

@@djnes2k7 that’s exactly what generational uplifts are supposed to be lol

[@miks564]

Same here. For less than €600 I'll update because nice to have, not because of need. ...and I'm still running a 16GB 6800 XT SE OC - which still performs very well at 4k.

[@FJano12]

I might go amd this time after many years of Nvidia..

[@LukeHimself]

I would recommend it. I enjoy their driver software and they've always been rock solid stable for me.

[@dj4aces]

Seeing as how the 5080 has kinda fallen flat with the major reviewers (GN, Hardware Unboxed, LTT), I can't say I expect anything else down Nvidia's product stack to fare any better. Especially any 8GB VRAM offering.

[@NeonAtari]

the more you buy the shinier my jacket gets huang

[@Sidewinder1009oli]

Seems to me like 8gb should be reserved for cards not targeted at modern games. For the sort of people that would have bought a gtx 1030

[@carlr2837]

8GB cards have a place, but only at the low end. You'd have to be crazy to pay over $100-120 for one, though.

[@Johnny-fw9xj]

What I see in the comments is people seem to almost hope that 9070 will be a failure, which is insane to me. Also I see people saying that if 9070 is 85-90% performance of 5080 and it costs less than $500, only then they will even consider. So 85-90% of the performance for 33% of the price and they'd still probably not buy AMD? That's wild... Ps. MSRP's doesn't mean mean anything when talking about Nvidia, it's a product that you can't buy with a price that doesn't exist

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

5080 real price is $1200. You have to also remember that nvidia is a monopoly with the latest report showing 92% market share so by default, almost everyone buys Nvidia

[@argmits]

Its not wild at all. With Amd you are buying a promise on fsr4. Nvidia has all that covered with a better solution quality wise and it is available now. No promises needed. Also better coverage and application of dlss in games than fsr. You buy a gpu every 3 years on average and so most people will prefer to spend 750$ for 5070ti when prices normalise instead of 500 on a product based on promises.Its my belief Amd should do an Intel move and go harder on prices to grab market share otherwise in a couple of generations they might just close the dgpu shop altogether.

[@Johnny-fw9xj]

You guys are only proving my point. As a pro-consumer advocate I don't understand why so many consumers cherish a monopoly. Perhaps it's ignorance, perhaps it's a juvenile fandom issue, I really don't know.

[@argmits]

@Johnny-fw9xj We dont but as previous generations have shown people want a complete package not semi promises. Amd has to go on attack mode like intel to provide a price that will make people invest on the promises they make. 100$ or 150$ even wont make a dent. If 9070xt is around 5070ti perfomance and launches at 600 or 650 its doa like many gpus before it. They dont have the issues b580 has but they wont commit on the price that will gain them market share.

[@kamikaziking]

@@argmits they litteraly build graphics chips for every console maker out there , your comment is the most uninformed Nvidia fanboy drivel ive read the last 5 years....

[@weirdodude1173]

The $600 range for 9070 XT AIB cards could be alright. But the closer it gets to that $700 point the more it has to beat 5070 Ti for people to seriously consider it. Having said that, if 5070 Ti is another paper launch disaster like with 5080 and 5090, then that gives AMD more leeway with initial pricing. If AMD can do a real launch where most people can get a card if they want it, that could be a huge win. Waiting really sucks, though. Thumbs up.

[@tariel1928]

Its a shame amd didnt aim for the high end this generation. Seems like they could've been in with a shot.

[@Donsmokeypapi]

in gaming they probably could've outdone the 5090. But since NVIDIA cards are also heavily used in spaces where Radeon cant compete, they didn't wanna waste resources is my thoughts. Especially since they're unifying the workload and gaming gpu's in next gen UDNA

[@dainiusvysniauskas2049]

No point in going for high end GPU and wasting massive amount of money on R&D when the cards will be on the same silicon as previous generation

[@AhmadAli-kv2ho]

Theyve been in shot for more than 3 gens now.an easy 128 cu competes with the 90 class from the 30 to the 50 series

[@parm2-x7h]

highend gpus has to be the best in everything but amd gpus are light , for gaming its ok . if im spending over$1500 then gpu has to be best , nvidia 90 class is best in gaming and other stuff . mid range and low end is where the market is for gamers , Amd made good move to only focus on mid range , now question will can amd make dual gpu card , i know scalling is not good but still dual midrange gpu with 2 9070 gpu for $1000 , it will rival or beat 5090 .

[@petrinafilip96]

Even if they targeted "entry enthusiast" level (so nvidia 80s series) they could have competed there. No need to chase 90s, those series are for people with more dough than smarts and professionals anyway.

[@garytrawinski1843]

Frank Azor has lied before. You have to take what he says with a giant grain of salt.

[@Eric-ct2ri]

that amd employee saying 899 was never part of the plan doesnt mean much cause it could be 850$ or above 899$ and would still make his statement accurate.

[@kenmasters2025]

898.99

[@rezzattack6351]

lmao they only dropped the prices after the effect people are bitching about over price paper weight called the 50 series. fuck the prices for both hope they loose more stock.

[@RipperDraco]

There isn't a real MSRP my guy. The real MSRP stands usually for US and even there its not always guaranteed. Anywhere else in the world we pay vat on top of the MSRP and then we pay more than that depending on the variation we choose. So in the real world outside mostly from US if a product cost's let's say 499 we will and up paying 799 in the end of the day or more and even that it depends on the supply end demand,if the cards have high demand and low supply add another 200 to 300 on top of that 799. MSRPs is a unicorn and a great joke for dreamers especially on the first months of these products.

[@Rhythm_Sec]

Voice of reason. People dwell on MSRP way too much. The market ultimately sets the price.

[@geirolafsson9487]

The 9070 cant be more than 500-550$ or people will just buy Nvidia

[@patrykfejkisz6991]

Nvidia has lot to offer software wise, it better be around 500$ personally won't feel the difference if it's => 100$ 200$ difference is bear minimum to consider swap to AMD

[@MyrKnof]

they will anyway, literally no matter what. The teens and masses dont even know radeon exists.

[@ppccchen6194]

No, because you can't even find one rtx50 in regular price. Just a joke.

[@RedLine0069]

even 600 dollars wont be expensive because if the leaks are true you will hava a card almost as fast of the 5080 for 5070 price

[@redox4088]

​@@ppccchen6194What makes you think AMD launch will be any different?

[@ruinvixi]

love the mouse clicks at the start

[@OneNTwentyOneMillion]

If the the 9070xt competes close to the 5080, then I don't see AMD losing out on money. I would be surprised if this is lower than $799 usd.

[@bracusforge7964]

you would be surprised at how many people buy RTX cards, even if it costs 150-200$ more than the AMD equivalent

[@hirosese]

@@bracusforge7964no ones buying rtx cards which is why its priced so high, Nvidia is done with gaming gpus

[@PwopYT3811]

@@bracusforge7964 Exactly, so if an AMD card is too cheap, Nvidia will correct their prices making AMD earn much less than they would if they priced it higher at the beginning. It won't be cheap, couple hundred $ less than the competitor would just be a bad decision in the long term.

[@aflyingcowboy31]

​@@hiroseseeveryone will buy them. Also the high prices are from AIMS not Nvidia

[@bracusforge7964]

@hirosese are you sure? Nvidia has had >80% market share for more than 3 years now

[@miks564]

For < €600, I'll upgrade because 'nice to have'. For €1000, I'll just keep my 16GB 6800 XT SE OC which still performs very well at 4k.

[@pablode7638]

rlly at 4k?? i have 7900 xt and cant play games conformably at 1440p max setting without fsr or framegen.

[@miks564]

@ Maybe a your using ray tracing? The 6800 doesn’t have it. And it’s fat enough for me to have all the settings high or max at 4K. Maybe it’s related to the type of games as well.

[@pablode7638]

@@miks564 true what games do u play. i play stuff like cyberpunk, stalker 2 spiderman 2 rn, marvel rival 2 and rdr2

[@miks564]

@pablode7638 GTA5 & RDR2 used to play on PS. Fewer cheaters. Usually it's more stuff like Planet Crafter, Astroneer, Minecraft but also strategy and adventure games like Baldur's Gate 3, Solasta, Homeworld 3, Diablo IV and lot's of train games like Transport Fever 2, Train World, Mashinky, Rail Roader, etc. I've no longer eyes and reflexes for FPS. :P

[@Messametti]

With our 19% sales tax here in Germany the $599 would become 705€, if the 9070XT ends up between the 7900XT 700€+ and the 7900XTX 870€+ i would buy it in an instant. The 5070ti here will be around 870€ thats a big difference, especially if you consider the mark ups because it will have low supply too compared to the 9070XT. If thats the case iam 100% go for the 9070XT.

[@greygoose5359]

If it has 4080/5080 raster performance, it needs to be at least 20% cheaper than the nvidia alternative for me to even consider it. Or more VRAM, but they already informed us that they fucked up that part. Otherwise I'd rather pay 0-25% more, but then get dlss4

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

Seeing that the 5080 is actually $1200/1170, with a few msrp models That's specifically showed special launch pricing aka they'll increase by about $200 post launch date, That means you're willing to buy an AMD 5080 for $970, $200 below Nvidia. On the bright side, even though you don't get the vram, you're about to get a hefty discount this gen from Amd. 4080 super + 3% for $649, so ALMOST HALF OFF way better than the 20% u wanted

[@Oliver-sn4be]

Ther no way it is gona cost 1000 or even 900 when the xtx is 700 or 800 lol

[@zszyTW]

I hope AMD has a higher VRAM option for people who operate at a higher resolution.

[@mrsasshole]

The 7900 xt is supposed to have 20GB of VRAM. How much VRAM do you need for a medium-tier card?

[@CChiefmk3]

Very unlikely, only 7900 xt and xtx had more than 16gb, and they were high end gpus, 9070 xt is the strongest of the lineup and it is a mid range gpu. Btw, 16gb isnt enough to play? In Nvidia side only 4090 and 5090 have more than 16gb, 4080 and 5080 are 16gb, and they arent intended to play at lower resolutions

[@zszyTW]

@@CChiefmk3 i run at 5120 x 1440, higher RAM is more important for us at high rez.

[@CChiefmk3]

@@zszyTW 16gb of vram will really limitate the frames before the limit of the gpu?

[@Osprey850]

They aren't doing high end cards this cycle, so the 256-bit bus of the 9070 XT is likely the largest that we'll see and that currently limits the cards to 16GB (for reference, the 7900 XT came with 20GB because it had a 320-bit bus and the 7900 XTX came with 24GB because it had a 384-bit bus). 3MB modules will soon make 24GB possible on a 256-bit bus, but AMD may not use them to refresh the lineup because they didn't go with GDDR7 in the first place and UDNA is only 1.5 years away.

[@BanJin9]

Tariffs have already started.....On March 20% price increase imminent...

[@VoldoronGaming]

25%

[@thomas-cheng]

These chips are already at warehouses in the US before the tarriff increase.

[@ilbro7874]

Not our precious gpus 😢

[@cavemantero]

@@thomas-cheng doesn't matter they weren't priced!!!

[@hughjazz44]

If the 9070XT is close in performance to the 5080 and substantially cheaper, then that means AMD could've made a card that was substantially faster than the 5080 at the same price...

[@cavemantero]

the problem though, sadly, isn't the performance...its the naming...because normies who don't pay attention to any of this are by far the larger customer market and they're going to buy team green unless the AMD counterpart is SUBSTANTIALLY cheaper...in other words, the 9070xts are going to rot on the shelves until black friday again just like their 7700xt/7800xt did

[@reinad4624]

future me was this video worth watching?

[@reinad4624]

no

[@reeveho1384]

Lol

[@LukeHimself]

lmfao.. "I'll lob it off if it's over X dollars!!" 🤣 Man that's drastic.

[@Hexenkind1]

I consider to buy this thing more and more now

[@knightsljx]

let's see if AMD repeats their mistake from the 7000 series GPUs. this is the 2nd time Nvidia is basically handing the consumer market to AMD, with their nonsensical pricing.

[@TW-bh2mi]

It's definitely a bit faster than a gre as it is going to be faster than the 7900xt and have better features and ray tracing than the 7900xtx and your expectations are beyond ridiculous for the pricing being 550 or 600 i see why AMD is failing too much idiots on the internet

[@finique8389]

got my 6700 xt second hand for 450 euro in 2022 summer. Still holds well. But i did switch to 3440x1440 monitor so might need a better one. If the new amd gpus aren't overpriced i might upgrade. But if its something unreasonable and supply is short, the cards will end up overpriced as all stores inflate the prices these days and i won't upgrade.

[@xNovaSounds]

If its $600 I will buy it. 5080's are msrp at $1k and selling actually for like $1700. If AMD has stock, the cards will sell. Nvidia's paper launch has inflated the price on the 5000 series

[@cavemantero]

Id buy one too but the problem is it wont make a dent in the market and that means continued overpriced cards for years on end...which is why Im entirely expecting it to launch at $800 and rot on the shelves because 7900xts are just about gone and that's the only place AMD doesn't undercut their older gen gpus

[@nathanielenochs1843]

I ain't paying more than $450 USD for a freaking GPU

[@reeveho1384]

Then don't? Nobody's forcing you to

[@shaggings]

cool, then don't.

[@Ymyeh-lr8wj]

Thats completely fine. Just dont complain if you cant play stuff at max or a high framerate.

[@parm2-x7h]

well there are gpus for $400 now , shut up and buy the rtx4060 ti 8gb for $400 . rx7700 xt 12gb is $350 . but you not gonna get new gpus for dirt cheap , mcdonnals coupans not gomma work here , go get a job .

[@carlr2837]

@@parm2-x7h There are used boards out there, too. I picked up a 4060Ti-16GB for $360 that was lightly used.

[@sleepy_yuu8152]

That $900 "leak" did far more damage than I could've ever thought lol. Maybe it was bait, maybe the leaker got the currency wrong and it's not in USD. But that seemed so wrong, I'm surprised we're still talking about it.

[@Pleasiotic1]

Probably simple malfeasance. There is plenty of reason to believe so.

[@tiberiumirica8445]

leak could be legit, BUT as always, media lacks critical thinking skills, and they compare apples with oranges. 899 USD for EU means Product price+taxes. which would result in a 730 USD msrp for US. Still expensive but not the same thing. Specially when you compare with the price of 7900 XT today in US, as most publications that reported the leak did. 7900 XT is not 650 USD, only Americans and Canadians think that, for the rest of the world it is what you pay for and that's 800 to 900 USD (you do pay the taxes with your money)

[@MyBestBuddiesForever]

Yeah it's still relevant because people like to sh*t on AMD as their way to cope from Nvidia overpriced and underperformed card that they're disappointed with.

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

​@@MyBestBuddiesForeveri mean, what else can they do, it's not like they're gonna buy nvidia even when nvidia has 92% market share now

[@thegutlessleadingthecluele7810]

@@tiberiumirica8445 In Germany, the 7900 XT currently costs 700 euros. The card could fall below the low of 670 euros by March. Perhaps it makes sense to buy the 7900 XT before the 9070 XT is released.

[@bleeb1347]

Even $549 is too expensive for the XT. To be impressive for “midrange” AMD must bring the price back down to below console prices. Meaning under $400, otherwise PC gaming will continue to decline as a direct result of poor optimization, high pricing and reliance on upscaling. It’s a terrible time to be a pc gamer.

[@somerandomdoge12]

Its seriously not that terrible. 1080p is still great and any 30 series card can run it no problem and theyre not that expensive at this point. You could bump it up to a 4070 ti super which isnt that expensive and its a great 1440p card which will last you a long time. And the b580 is also a good low budget option, when its actually in stock

[@muaddib7356]

Agreed! $499 is the MOST they can charge at launch or it's DOA!

[@midtown3221]

This is how it should be, but...reality is often disappointing. I wouldn't say _terrible,_ but definitely bad for the majority.

[@midtown3221]

@ $500 would be the dream, but unfortunately that won't come true no matter how much it should. Bad time to be a PC gamer.

[@hotdog9262]

@somerandomdoge12 1080p is allright but remember gamers have larger screens these days

[@bumblefoot5]

Saying no high end rdna4 then charging high end prices...that would be madness. You can buy a 7900xt for £630 including tax. If their charging more than this the new cards better be at least 15%/20% faster

[@bacuda926]

$500, maybe even $550 and ill go AMD, I think $600 or more is too much.

[@cavemantero]

and you would be correct because the 4070 ti super is ~$600

[@patatacaliente8270]

My strictly personal guess is around 650$ US, but I am hoping for a little less. Let's see.

[@hatarmusiken]

Rtx 5080 start at around 14-1500$ minimum at least here in sweden, but mostly around 1800:- $

[@drachenmahl]

I'm more interested in the 9070 than the 9070XT 9070 could be a nice price to performance deal :D and the Reference Modell seams to be a 2 Slot design that would be great for my purpose to, as i have a real tiny case

[@Natch_Leopard]

If the price for the 9070 XT are comparable to the 7800 XT that would be awesome.

[@Caveman787]

The 5070 Ti and 5060 Ti with 16gb will be the only models worth getting. BUT they will be priced at levels where it would make more sense to buy last gen.

[@jackali5014]

yup

[@AndrewTSq]

But 4090 and 4080 are removed from stores here now, and i guess the 4070 will be removed when 5070 releases too, so it will be hard to get last gen card.

[@itwasntoptional5768]

You can’t buy last gen without inflated prices anyway. You would be ripping yourself off

[@jackali5014]

@ He might be talking about used market

[@carlr2837]

@@itwasntoptional5768 You can always buy "last gen" at reasonable prices, if you shop for used ones.

[@ryue5626]

You can't even buy any gpu nvidia with their paper launch people panick bought all the 7900xtx cards it all sold out everywhere, I hope radeon isn't a paper launch cause I'm trying to switch to team red , nvidia can keep their ai bullshit, im not gonna pay for Jensen new jacket

[@traversharty]

The 9070 XT will be 549 USD. Not sure where the non-XT will fall but it will be targeting the 5060/5070 middle ground. That has a lot to do with the delay.

[@Debanjanepiskey]

This thing can't be more than $499.99 if AMD actually wants to gain a meaningful amount of market share. Edit: I do realize that Nvidia stock is essentially nonexistent right now, but what makes y'all think that Nvidia can't flood the market with stock as soon as AMD starts competing? This is exactly what they pulled during the 40 series launch. Even if RT performance is the exact same, I personally would gladly pay up to 200 bucks more for a 5070 ti to upgrade from my current aging RX 6600, with presumably better upscaling with DLSS transformer model, multi-FG in niche use cases, DLSS video upscaling features, nvenc, and significantly better AV1 encoder decoder since there aren't any leaks about much if any improvements in this area. But paying anything more feels icky, and I'd pivot to the 9070xt.

[@Soutar3DG]

They don't particularly care about market share, they'd rather use the wafers for CPUs since that makes them more money

[@polar6826]

thats not realistic, a 4080 super performance for half the price, do you even understand what ur saying? 600-650 is realistic and actually a good deal. 450 for the regular 9070, 330 for 9060xt, and 280 for 9060. This is realistic, and people would buy it.

[@kaystephan2610]

Performance of a 4080/4080S. The 5080 costing $1000+ in the real world performs at most 15% better. Why exactly could AMD only demand $499 AT MOST? Like literally what is that logic?

[@PwopYT3811]

If it's $499 and it delivers 7900XT like performance, you won't get it any other way than from a scalper for $600

[@LaymensLament]

@@polar6826 ye about as many people as before

[@carsonj4031]

Its not that hard people. The 9070xt will have performance of a 4080/7900xtx, the 5080 is only 15% faster than both those cards. The 9070xt will be a $700-$750 card, they will try and match the 5070ti price while being reasonably faster than the 5070ti and not too much slower than a 5080. People saying that it has to be $600 or even $500 do not have the full picture of the cards its competing against and its performance. THINK ABOUT THIS: a GPU that is only 15% slower than a 5080 that costs $1000 will not be $600, they cannot make a gpu of that tier that cheap.

[@itwasntoptional5768]

You’re beyond delusional if you think AMD will make money or market share with a $700-750 9070xt. People WILL buy the 5070 Ti.

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

​@@itwasntoptional5768and amd will use the silicon wafer capacity to make mi400s which sell for 2500% per the same die area so $500 from a gamer or $20,000 from AI bros, Hmm, I wonder, I wonder what Amd will, surely they wouldn't take $20,000 from ai bros and instead sell it for $500 to the "rich" gamer dudes. Right guys, RIGHT?

[@itwasntoptional5768]

Furthermore, the 4070 ti super is only about 10-15% slower than the 4080 super across the board and they’re quite literally built on the same die. If the 5070 Ti is even slightly faster that gap narrows even further. In short, both the 9070XT and the 5070 Ti should be within 4080 range but one card is the clearly the winner in terms of feature set

[@itwasntoptional5768]

@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br Cope. AMD stated they want 40% gpu market share and are going to be “aggressive” at the mid range to make it happen. Pricing $50 less than Nvidia isn’t how you do either of those things. If they can’t price correctly they may as well just forfeit

[@cavemantero]

its not going to have 7900xtx performance...they would've name it as a 9080xt if that's what the reality of the situation was

[@argmits]

Too many people here have the wrong idea about what Amd should do. Cutting 50$ or 100$ off against Nvidias 5070ti wont work for 9070xt since it hasnt worked for the past 2 generations. This time Amd has no other choice other than going low margin on these and thats cause of market share dropping to dangerous levels. Another couple of generations like rdna2 and 3 that lost mind share will mean Amd will have to quit making dgpu altogether. If they want to stay in the game they have to go really low (close to no profit low) to get a bigger piece of the pie.

[@nukedathlonman]

Think it was due to software maturity - perhaps FSR 4 wasn't quite fully implemented into the drivers yet, or there was a few too many bugs to work out in the drivers. It's also a good opportunity to build stock and trying to ensure everyone gets a chance to actually buy one (esp seeing as how some retailers already have stock). ARC B580's sure proved the market is ready for better priced GPU's.

[@jameshanson5610]

The bus width for each SKU was a choice: they knew what they were doing!! This is by design.

[@jr6955]

AMD DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND DONT PRICE THESE CARD MORE THAN 500 AMD AMD AMD AMD AMD AMD AMD AMD AMD

[@sitaro1207]

$499 or Nvidia keeps it's market share

[@dainiusvysniauskas2049]

Brain damage detected.

[@sitaro1207]

@dainiusvysniauskas2049 if they literally change the naming scheme to compete with Nvidia but not the price, then there's definitely brain damage in AMD's marketing team and yours as well for defending it

[@dbatack]

I too also want the card for cheap as a gamer, but I feel like we're limting their price. If you look at NVIDIA people are willing to spend up to 2K for a GPU.

[@dainiusvysniauskas2049]

@@sitaro1207 if 5070 Ti has MSRP of $749. Why would equivalent product from AMD cost 33% less? Also, why would AMD give a damn about market share?

[@bacuda926]

@@dainiusvysniauskas2049 He is right, it should be $500, maybe $550, and it's not equivalent to the 5070ti, what makes you say that?

[@hasnihossainsami8375]

$600 for a 5070Ti competitor, which has an msrp of $750. Even if the the Nvidia msrp is fake, and it most certainly is, a $150 difference will not be enough to shake the public mindshare. Mindshare is a powerful thing; unless AMD actively takes a hit in their profit margins they absolutely will not take any market share whatsoever. The pricing needs to be disruptive, like the B580 - no more than $550, but preferably $500. I'm not even saying this because I want a lower price, which I absolutely do, but I'm saying this because I genuinely want AMD to be competitive enough for people to actually look in their direction. Living under Nvidia's nose has done nothing for them throughout RDNA1-3, something needs to change.

[@patrykfejkisz6991]

Couldnt've put it better, 200$ price difference will save their sorry asses and will get them decent chunk of market

[@kaystephan2610]

- 9070XT is faster than 5070Ti - you literally admit yourself that the MSRP is fake and IRL the prices will be way higher so why keep obsessing over the MSRP? MSRP doesn't matter one bit if 95% of 5070Tis will sell for close to $900.

[@Kankipappa]

True, but the thing is, 5080 is the real 5070. This 9070/9070TI card is supposed to compete with that lineup, hench the close performance figures vs. 4080S. Nvidia totally juked AMD, when they went on naming the card as 5070 competitor and then went to upsell it with twice the margins as 80 class card - and some people still will go and buy those +1000$ 50"80"'s. Now you can't really price up xx70-class cards in the 1k zone, since that would be ridiculous. AMD is now locked in for midrange prices with their naming choice (which was supposed to be 8800XT before btw, with 80 class pricepoint) but Nvidia called AMD's bluff and now tries to charge premium (basically double what their card should be). Now the xx60-series GPU's are getting closer to actual 1000$ price point next, which again the 5070/5070 TI die basically is. I wonder if that will get broken on next generation, as xx70 card for 1k joke basically got realized.

[@sorinbanu3360]

@@kaystephan2610 Exactly. but try to explain that to the sheeple. These cards should simply rot on the shelves.

[@aflyingcowboy31]

​@@kaystephan2610The msrp isn't fake, AIMS have never sold at msrp prices. I will never understand why people like you don't get this and think the msrp is fake.

[@PohnnyRico]

5070 TI is 879,- Euro in Germany. My worst case 9070XT price would be 649,- (with vat). But even than its over 30% better perf/value over the 5070 ti. 599,- would be my prefered price. The 5070 ti is not looking to be very close or stronger than the 4080. If the 9070xt is even a little stronger in raster than a 4080 and on par/+-5% with 5070 ti raytracing for 30% less money...could be a ryzen moment. 9080XT in 9-10 months with 84 CUs for ~799-899👀

[@CustomPCBuilderUK]

I've been waiting for more RX 9000 info 👍

[@ShadowAngelS2K]

AMD can pull of a steal here. Price is below 600, pref closer to 500. Cuz this card is supposed to compete with the 5070 Ti. It's 4080/4080 Super raster level with 4070 Ti Super in RT

[@1ch1r1n]

AMD needs to give something more than NVidia, but it can't just be ram, slightly lower in performance and slightly lower in price. They need to punch NVidia in the gut and offer the GPU's as close to NVidia performance as possible, while being as cheap as possible. They need to stop being greedy, and make NVidia look greedy. If they can give 5080 performance-ish at as far under 500$ as possible so they could really hit nvidia where it hurts. If they would just say "Screw the profit margins" for one generation... Imagine if they just gave 5080 performance at 349/299~ and how horrible and stupid that would make nvidia look.

[@dainiusvysniauskas2049]

"screw the profit margins" - are you braindead? The whole point of business is to make money

[@Ghost-nv9bx]

If its above £499 it's just not gonna do anything people are going to do what they always do and buy nvidia

[@kamikaziking]

except that AMD has a good 27% oof the market if anything if they get another 5% theyll be grand considering they essentialy have the console maarket on full control where as Nvidia hasnt got any market on that sector

[@Jaxon-c4k]

If the 9070 XT is really 4080 performance then it will curb stomp the 5070 in value, even at $600. We'll be lucky if the 5070 can reach 4070 Ti performance.

[@hinchlikescake7592]

​​@@kamikazikingNot sure where you're getting those figures from. Maybe if you count all the integrated GPUs in CPUs and APUs. The DGPU market is completely dominated by Nvidia. If AMD don't put their foot down now and try they might as well exit the discrete GPU market. You have to consider how far Nvidia stranglehold in software in games development and professional (CUDA) front. Nvidia have both fronts locked down with the gap bigger as time goes on.

[@666stankyrich]

I expected the ps5 pro to be 600 then I thought the 9070 xt would be about 550 to 600 now I guess it's going to be £700..

[@ixonal8843]

@@kamikaziking From what I'm seeing, AMD's GPU market share in 2024 was closer to 10%. This has knock-on effects that make AMD cards less appealing than comparable Nvidia cards, even beyond the feature disparity.

[@omegajvn1]

One thing people tend to look over, at least in the US, is that a lot of countries prices INCLUDE taxes in it already. What you see, is what you buy. In the US, our corrupt politicians that are paid by companies, allow prices to exclude taxes, therefore giving the impression that products are cheaper. Our entire system needs to be replaced with people that are NOT making a lot of money. EVERYONE needs replaced!

[@whocares0503]

Its obvious AMD doesnt have the chip tech to go TOTL. I HOPE they can hit 5080 levels because Nvidia really stuck it to us...

[@anitaremenarova6662]

$599 means it's dead in the water, people are either going to save 50 bucks on a 5070 or add 150 for ti

[@jdozajr6396]

Not if it gets close to the 5080.

[@manoftherainshorts9075]

But this card rivals RTX 4080 in some benchmarks

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@ Which is entirely useless when 5070ti does too and it releases sooner.

[@manoftherainshorts9075]

@ 5070Ti is doubtfully faster than a 4080, because 5080 is barely faster than 4080 already.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@ I'm saying it'll match it just like the 9070XT. These cards are direct competitors and people will just go with the more popular brand unless the price differential is substantial.

[@anubisTC]

Yeah I was hopeful with 9070 because there was this Firmware update. If he is saying those rumours are undersellin...Hopefully he is not lying, because with that + having more VRAM, the 5080 is pretty much out of the table without significant price cuts.

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

It won't have more vram, Amd announced, it will not compete with the high end this generation. This architecture is end of life eol and they'll compete thai end with their next architecture udna

[@anubisTC]

@NadeemAhmed-nv2br I guess youre right. Will be 16gb. The price point, if confirmed, will be against 5070 ti which is also rumoured to be 16gb. Well...better wait for confirmation.

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

​@@anubisTCagreed

[@Thor_Asgard_]

REMARK! 5070ti prices are the most stupid and wrong of them all, dunno why you all refere to them, as its the only card without founders model and therefore will 100% not be avail for that stupid MSRP. The 5070ti will be arround 850$

[@ICEMANZIDANE]

@4:06 BS We know from phones for example that the China prices are significantly lower than what these devices sell for in the EU or US. Iam sorry guys but there is not way that this card will be at this price point, why should it be? The 7900xtx still exists guys have you guys forgotten that?

[@SoyToni06]

Rx 7000 series is a chiplet design which is more expensive in every way possible, 9000 series is a monolithic design, its cheaper to produce and easier to work with, also the chip is not as big as a flagship silicon is, that means more chips yielded per waffer = cheaper overall product

[@argmits]

Plus rx 7000 series wont support fsr4 so yeah rip

[@kaseyboles30]

The 5060 should use 3gb modules and be 12GB and the TI just in a 16GB model. I don't know that 12GB modules exist at the price and volume needed for this sort of thing yet. Perhaps in the upcoming super models. They can likely get away with switching to those on cards already using 2gb modules, tack on a tiny number more cores and get good sales if the supers replace the regular cards at or below(yeah, not likely).

[@XPuntar]

for Super variants you will wait another year!

[@vulcan4d]

There is no way this will be $1000 for a card that has GDDR6. Sounds like nonsense to set expectations higher. This is AMD and anything with a "7" is considered a cheapo card.

[@MeMeBot1337]

It's simple really... If the 9070 XT costs above €650, I'm keeping my 7900 XT. If it's below €650 I'll sell my card and buy the new one.

[@fybyfyby]

Wow thats so much for mainstream cards. Still expecting 7900 rasterization performance plus better rt plus better ml performance. Price should not head towards 7900 when it was released. I can't imagine why someone should by this instead some derivate of 7900 much cheaper now.

[@moto6981]

Intel is like the underdog in the GPU world, but they came out swinging with some seriously affordable options. Sure, AMD could do the same, but when one family runs both Nvidia and AMD, it's like trying to break into a family dinner

[@PepeFruit]

I bought a 7800xt for €510 a few days ago because I dont think the 9070/xt will be less than €600. thoughts?

[@Duarenteed]

I hope they don't charge us for a load of AI crap we dont want. And give us real performance. Also, if I went to a stakehouse. And they had no stakes. I wouldn't go back.

[@Jyolski]

They will and you know it lmao they already said they have to go down the AI route aswell

[@Duarenteed]

@Jyolski They dont have to. They could build separate AI cards for people who use AI. Instead of charging gamers to develop the technology.

[@saintallnights7239]

Any news on the 5050? Oh right, did not notice it right there in the title.

[@kozad86]

AMD was never gonna make a card *slower* than the 7900 XTX and then charge the same for it.

[@cavemantero]

I disagree. Why? Because I think they were expecting Muhvidia to launch their 5070 series higher than the 7900 xtx price (which they did...but they renamed it 5080) and then were going to replace the 7900xtxs that would eventually sell out with the 'worse' card...the 9070xt. And in fact, Muhvidia just did the same with their 80 series! Why wouldn't AMD do it?

[@bracusforge7964]

paper launch in march, actual launch a month later right

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

Nah, microcenter's inventory is chalk Full of them which is why they're p***** that they have to carry these cards for a month without selling them.

[@Ja_Schadenfreude]

Given that you can actually purchase 5000 series Nvidia cards at MSRP: I'm of the opinion of that in order for most people to buy the AMD card it has to be at least 20% cheaper than it's Nvidia counterpart. 10% isn't going to cut it and 15% is questionable. And I think it's an absolutely terrible time to be a gamer. Really expensive video cards and UNoptimized games that force you to purchase a new card every few years.. no thanks. JMHO

[@muaddib7356]

The 9070XT has to come in at $499 AT LAUNCH, or it's DOA!! Why? Most people will just pony up the extra cash to go with NVIDIA at $549 if it's any higher in price.

[@frostbiten9611]

the 9070XT is meant to compete with 5070Ti which is 749 msrp. We don't know the performance of any of these cards yet so we will have to wait and see. But their target is 9070 vs 5070 and XT vs Ti but I expect them to come in a lot cheaper. But the 70XT for 599 would not surprise me even if I hope for lower, it's still 150 dollar below the 70Ti for probably better raster performance but worse Raytracing.

[@cavemantero]

pretty much this and even I thought it was too high for 70 series but AMDumb did the naming adoption and showed their hand when Muhvidia was cheating under the table..the 9070xt should've been named as a 9800xt and the rtx 5070 is really a 5060

[@gibbit2k496]

Considering taxes this will definetly be 900 to 1k in Europe.

[@Neo_Rain146]

Depends, retailers will certainly price this higher initially but it should be replacing the 7900xt price point eventually which has been sitting at around 750€

[@commonsense-og1gz]

that wasn't the plan, but trump tariffs will make sure of it.

[@Neo_Rain146]

Im seeing the price of the 7900xt drop here in Europe to around 700€ so this makes sense. If its going to be 600$ that would make it after tax about 750€ here in Europe so would almost certainly replace the 7900xt in that price point. Retailers are probably trying to move their remaining stock.

[@corey2232]

The price leaks just confirmed to me something I suspected all along - AMD doesn't want to *COMPETE* with Nvidia, they directly benefit & depend on Nvidia. AMD is rooting for Nvidia to continuously jack up prices, that way they can inflate their own prices & still look like the "good guy" by slightly undercutting them. They don't have any real motivation or desire to catch up with Nvidia. They can sit on their position & just be content playing second fiddle while putting in way less effort.

[@evilvash0]

honestly still comes down to June or July for me to bother getting one so either way gonna enjoy a card thats got a few driver updates already out and even more games supported by the time I get the new Powercolor Reaper 9070 XT for my new PC Build hopefully runs well with a 7600X because only reason I went with that was because the end result will be upgrading to the last Am5 12core X3D chip that comes out edit: I find it sad that there even is a 60 TI with 16gb's of vram and a 60 with 8gb's of vram...and nvidia just refuses to give a 70 non ti 16gb's and just leave a 60 TI ONLY card with 12gb's

[@garysmith1099]

what difference does it make on price, chances of getting one at cost are near impossible.

[@alexisjavier84]

midrange would be 400 to 700. so if they charge more than 700 for a 9070xt, it would make zero sense and they would be shooting themselves in the foot. although if its performance is less than a 7900xtx i would expect the price to be closer to the 500 range.

[@parm2-x7h]

lts name tells a lot , amd made 70 class competetor , and will be forced to price around $500 to$600 , otherwise why did amd called these cards 70 class .

[@alexisjavier84]

@parm2-x7h indeed, but AMD likes to do AMD things. They always fail to capitalize on Nvidia's mistakes.

[@CLII1138]

Well AMD hit Nvidia now, it's known you have massive stock already sitting in the US and Europe. People are so frustrated with Nvidia they are ripe to be converted!

[@VoldoronGaming]

With the 25% tariff the card will be $750.00...now nvidia cards will also be 25% higher in price...the 5070 Ti will likely cost MSRP, before tariffs, $849-959, or $1050- 1199. Expect all used gpu prices to rise in price due to demand since no one can afford these tariff priced gpus.

[@camdustin9164]

How does the before tariff MSRP is $850-950 when NVIDIA literally said 750? Where did the 100-200 dollars coming from.

[@Jyolski]

10% not 25

[@johnnybravo9633]

@@camdustin9164 That's the NVIDIA model. The AiB board partners (MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte, etc.) will more than likely have higher prices for their different shroud and cooling solutions for the cards meaning the price for most cards will probably be in that $850-950 range, especially given the gap in price between the 5070ti and the 5080 will mean that board partners and retailers will jack things up to get as close to the 5080's price without cutting into sales of the 5080s (if they're even widely available anytime soon and not being scalped). Not sure if that's what OP was actually getting at (don't wanna put words in their mouth), but that's how I took it and it kinda makes sense. Either way, none of the new cards will be available for a reasonable price anytime soon. If you have something that works, stick with it. Shit's about to hit the fan.

[@raeferwilson2599]

Tier below pricing will work. 549.99 and 449.99 will blow Nvidia out the water completely in the midrange

[@aaronjones4529]

Yes, yes it would... I very much doubt it'll happen like this though, given AMD's track record on release pricing 😅... Frank Azor - "899 was never part of the plan"... Yeah, because the plan was 799 😂 ... But then they still had to delay because Nvidia came out at 750 on the 5070ti 😅

[@t0uchme343]

>999 usd msrp for 5080 >le local shop: this is missing something (puts a 1 in front of 999) Video related, if amd releases this for 599 or less I will eat one package of Korean fire noodles.

[@valentin3186]

5070Ti blows it completely out of the water. Amd have to go all in price-wise

[@hoffyc.h393]

I don't care about Nvidia 5000 series, if i gonna have a new GPU this time around it's only 9070XT i care about.

[@Oliver197507]

Hello!?? Has anybody already figured out why AMD cancelled their Big Navi RDNA4 ? Some sane heads MAY have thought it was going to be too expensive !!

[@kkrolik2106]

8GB GDDR6 was $18 when last time check * 2x cheaper than gddr7 due this low prices we can see even RX 9070 XT 32GB versions in clam shell confg for only $99 extra, and they will be interesting to run local LLM

[@CisumAPRAT]

for amd to "win" they need to target the 1080ti users, if the 9070xt is 500$ then they won, if its above 500$ the 1080ti users will just stick with it until the find a great deal, maybe they will upgrade to the 9070xt after it hits the second hand market

[@newyorktechworld6492]

I'm waiting for the RX 9070 XTX.

[@TomHenksYT]

Since I already have a 7900XTX, I will just skip this generation of GPUs. The 5080 is virtually the same in non-RT performance as what I already have and it comes with less VRAM so it would technically be a downgrade, lol... And I'm not planning on selling a kidney and half of my lung for the 5090. But that said, I am curious about the 9070 and 9070 XT because I often build PCs for other people. If these cards are well priced, they may be worth considering for future builds.

[@johndoh5182]

If trump has put a 25% tariff back onto GPUs they aren't going to cost $600 USD. Add 25% to that, so $750 USD, and it also means you won't find Nvidia GPUs for the low costs they were talking about because they launched without knowing what would happen with tariffs.

[@talaveraf16]

Hope they will have enough of these for everyone because ngreedia didn’t have enough at launch. People waited overnight to be told that 5090 were sold out . This is a good opportunity for AMD to take advantage.

[@madant7777]

Well, since nVidia became a no-buy, well see if AMD has anything normal to offer...

[@turbo523]

I feel like they will sellout instantly as well if the price is good.

[@hotdog9262]

if for example 20gb is not significantly more expensive then 16gb gddr6, then why didn`t AMD do this. is 20gb significantly more expensive then 16? it sure would have drawn me in, I like stuff not going obsolete within 4-5 years

[@lo0nyk]

never $899, but it''s $1099. why people think it was planned to be cheaper?

[@TikkaQrow]

7:50 when a 12gb edition 1660 Super runs faster than the 5060 in some games -.-