Great Watch, But A Beast Of A Movement! Bulova 'Devil Diver' Oceanographer

[@UGA.D]

Jody the Trickster! Normally when we say, "The movement is a beast!", it's supposed to be a compliment.

[@nwochina2770]

lol

[@camarocarl7130]

Great performance from my movement within COSC, you just have to back hack like an SKX.

[@varanid9]

@@camarocarl7130 Never understood people who whine about lack of hacking. When I need that level of precision, I use quartz, as any sensible person would in this day and age. As I commented, this watch is all about the authentic feel and experience, except with modern durability.

[@camarocarl7130]

@@varanid9 Agree but believe me the movement is very accurate also.

[@varanid9]

@@camarocarl7130 that's good to know. I never really paid attention to the accuracy of mine but they seem adequate. I rotate several watches so that's just not an issue.

[@3D_Blu-ray_Bunker]

Bizarre but true coincidence: Logged on this morning to watch this one - and noticed that my KZbin subscriber account had just hit 666: It's a sign, I *have* to get one of these! (And I already have a couple of Bulovas, love the brand). Great video, and thanks for the diabolical coincidence.

[@dinner_workingsly]

🤘🏼..it was a great day too wasn’t it

[@timothythomas1626]

What ever happened to the Kittens?

[@mihamoto]

For that price, bulova can afford to put a 9015 on this! Cheers, V.

[@edteach3r]

I wanted to scratch the Coke itch, and the Oceanographer did that beautifully. I have worn mine for a year now, almost to the day, and its accuracy is astonishing. I am in the minority, but I love the 70s tool-effect (i.e. high polish, no hacking, industrial-sounding winder) such as with my 20 year-old SKX. This is an easily-accessible, very reliable classic watch.

[@tastiefreeeze]

Something interesting is that this movement model, the 821D variation specifically, is only found in this specific watch out of all of citizens lineup. Honestly I have a feeling that it's the absolute highest end version of the 8000 series. From what I've read it's a "reinforced" 821A. But I also think they are regulating and adjusting them as my devil diver also is also +1 sec a day if that. More like +.33 a day. Wildly accurate for no good reason albeit this could be anecdotal as the sample base is only two.

[@ichris2011]

Mine is also scary accurate. Worn for a week straight and only off by 6 seconds at the end of that. I can’t find any information about the 821D except that it’s in this watch, which does make me think it is the highest form of the 8000 series specific to the oceanographer. I’ve got no issues with it, with the accuracy they’re giving I don’t even mind the no hacking

[@hugohugo37]

Bulova had an awesome super high beat quartz movement a few years back that had an almost spring drive sweep to the seconds hand. Why did they stop using it?!?! They even put it in a retro diver back then. It would go perfectly here.

[@icalexander]

The precisionist. I'd kill for that with an eco drive in a diver like this. Would be a hell of watch

[@gnarl12]

Battery life and they didn't sell.

[@icalexander]

@@gnarl12 yea they are hard on batteries and the watches they put the movement in were ugly AF

[@hugohugo37]

@@gnarl12 I have one. The battery life is a short I guess, two years or so. But it's not THAT big of a deal. I guess watch freaks like us are the only ones who care about smooth sweeps. Judging from the watches Bulova HAS kept in their line-up, I guess I'm not their typical customer- they seem to favor horrendously busy and overly complex gigantic chronographs.

[@hugohugo37]

@@icalexander Not all were hideous but they discontinued the nice ones. I have the military model with the coin edge bezel- nice simple watch. The Surveyors were nice too but too big for my taste.

[@JasonTheWatchGuy]

I'm all about these vintage reissue divers! Something about them that just works

[@astrobusa]

SUGGESTION : Could you do a video about flipping ? Best places to sell. Average loss (or gain) ? Best and worst stories ? Some idea of the prices you get from flips... and the factors that contribute to your pricing decisions ? Just a suggestion. Great video.... thanks again :)

[@CedricHoussin]

Yes Jody. That would be really interesting

[@dinner_workingsly]

Trade secret yo...the greats don’t kiss and tell.

[@astrobusa]

@@dinner_workingsly in my experience, one of the things that makes them "Great" is their willingness to mentor and share.

[@dinner_workingsly]

@@astrobusa yeah but that sounds less funny. I wasn’t being serious.

[@astrobusa]

@@dinner_workingsly .... I didn't think you were being serious..... was just injecting another opinion. Sorry if it come over the wrong way.

[@nicks8026]

“Back alley dentistry” had me laughing out loud. Thanks for the review.

[@hoihoi12250]

Ororor

[@cv507]

killin time v v

[@ETBozz78]

Jody, thanks for the awesome video. 2 years later, I've finally picked one up. Happy with the purchase.

[@1026367]

I bought mine second hand from someone who actually took it to a dive, he said it’s difficult to tell the time underwater, especially when using a flashlight.

[@veebeem953]

This Diver is available in 41mm as well, Bulova reference is 96B343. It is surely no spec monster, but compared to all these sterile microbrands, it has style and coolness.

[@jjzgte2362]

They actually just released a standard 41mm variant! I just imported it from Germany, it’s perfect!! Same movement though... but the size and look is spot on in my opinion. I have the green and black 44mm and I agree entirely with ya Jody the turtle just doesn’t do it for me after this one!!

[@TheMasonator777]

That movement is highly accurate at every position in the power reserve and at different angles. It’s very tough and durable. I’m a big fan. I’ve have 4 of them and they always sit right around +/- 3 sec.

[@Goyxrd3]

They suck

[@TheMasonator777]

@@Goyxrd3 I guess that settles it then.

[@AlkQubit]

I accidentally turned the crown the wrong way and forced it through twice when setting the date, did I cause damage?

[@TheMasonator777]

@@AlkQubit Maybe not. If everything still works well, you might be ok. It’s a tough movement. This movement winds and sets easily so if it’s grindy maybe you did something. The good news is that the movement is cheap and plentiful so you can get a replacement easily.

[@jbbert4950]

I love how cheap watches are getting more common in advanced movements all my homages are starting to feel trendy to wear

[@williamstalvey6920]

What is your favorite homage dive watch??

[@johandebondt5749]

@@williamstalvey6920 Not OP, but mine is def the Phoibos p007.

[@williamstalvey6920]

@@johandebondt5749 I will look that one up....thanks I like the Steeldive 1964....

[@neogeijutsu]

Thanks Mr. P. I thought I got a problem, having 100+ watches. Nice to know someone has more.😅

[@ForbinColossus]

Connected Bulova letters are an old style that has been used on automobile chrome model names

[@joncon4177]

Why wouldn't they put the 9015? Especially for the price.

[@jaer.6540]

cheap...they make more on overhead

[@RoaroftheTiger]

Jon- I understand. It's Moronic ! They are quite of few Watches using a "9000" series movement. Most under $600 / Many at or just under $500. They must have NO respect, for the potential buyer. It seems Bulova, is eager to join Elgin & Waltham.

[@MrJeremy9835]

I hate automatic watches and will never ever purchase another mechanical watch neither hand wind neither automatic it’s bullshit the chronometer COSC etc only Quartz watches are trustable

[@RoaroftheTiger]

​@@MrJeremy9835 Well, I trust Your likely to rid yourself, of all battery powered Quartz Watches as well. And instead; buy Solar powered Quartz ones, instead. As having to change out Batteries, can also be a "shitty" inconvenience ! ;-)

[@MrJeremy9835]

@@RoaroftheTiger I never tried one yet...neither the eco drive from Citizen or the gorgeous Oceanus Japanese Domestic market line from Casio, not even a Seiko Kinetic or Spring Drive. Not yet

[@johnb5099]

Just received the green version yesterday. Loving it.

[@Georgieez-nk7dz]

How's the movement are u happy overall??

[@johnb5099]

@@Georgieez-nk7dz yes very happy. Movement is fine. Can’t fault it.

[@mojochimera3265]

There’s a 41mm version in red and one in black that was reissued as well.

[@carllange3950]

I bought the green version (96B233) about 3 months ago and am very happy with the watch. The 41.5mm diameter bezel makes the watch wear much smaller than the cushion case’s 45mm diameter would suggest. Hacking would be nice, especially since backhacking doesn’t work with this movement. My watch is running about +2-5 spd. I have a 1978 Oceanographer (333 FEET, half devil?) with an internal magnifier that actually works pretty well.

[@hubertuswolfthaler]

Man, that’s not what I expected when I was promised „a beast of a movement“ 😞🐭

[@johnmoorefilm]

Love it. So here’s one for you: I directed the 2006 remake of “The Omen” (apologies to purists) and I was desperate to get one of these originals for a character to wear ....but could I? Could I bollox! Nobody was trading on the web back then🥲😢so I was stuffed! Anyway looks lovely that reissue 👌

[@michaelcsizma3996]

Just picked up the blue/orange version, and I have to say the lume on this is amazing! I can set this on the nightstand an shut out the lights, 3 hours later it is still bright and easily read.

[@mikeklaus2992]

Couldn't agree more Jody! Nice watch, hands rather short, movement is the pits! A while back I bought a Laco with a Miyota 821 movement, been kicking myself ever since. Wouldn't make the same mistake twice.

[@planninegoodtimes]

I’m a newbie to the hobby and I just bought this watch on sale at a good price. Mine is green and has hacking. I don’t mind the movement compared to my Seiko Black Samurai. Could they have updated the motor on the newer models?

[@josemavalmateu791]

Love the design not the execution and definitely not the movement. Awaiting for an AliExpress homage that will give the watch a better quality, a proper bracelet....and the inevitable NH35 :) for a lot less.

[@paulblakey4589]

That will be interesting.

[@camarocarl7130]

Don't hold your breath, rather have this movement, better accuracy then any 4R I own, just have to back hack like an SKX.

[@disasterpiecemusic]

Satan’s greatest deception was putting that movement into this watch.

[@SlimDonni]

Exactly. Why not round it up to 650 feet or even 700. Why specifically triple 6. No thank You Bulova

[@--RSL--]

@@SlimDonni 🙄

[@darrenfry4695]

@@SlimDonni well obviously they could of done what you said but there job is to sell watches so making it the 666 devil diver is going to attract more people that are going to want one , I doubt very much your idea of rounding up to the nearest number 650 or whatever is just not got no bang for your buck and what would they call it " the 650" snore oops sorry I just nodded off for a few seconds..it's the devil diver 666 now that sells lol.

[@jacobgreenmanedlion1863]

The applied logo is true to original. Hell my 18k Omega Constellation from the late 60s, which was about the most expensive mass-market watch you could buy at the time, has an applied logo with interconnected letters in that fashion. In fact, remember that from the fifties into the eighties, Mercedes-Benz did that with car model number badges.

[@unknowntraveller8633]

Original size yes, new size not a chance.

[@jollyrob]

As there doesn't seem to be a consensus of the ideal size at the moment I'd like to see more watches available in different size versions. This is ok for me but I think it's alienating a big slice, maybe even the majority of buyers.

[@charlesforbin8526]

It's not even a matter of taste, I just can't wear watches like this on my small wrist.

[@Nefville]

That thing is a hoss. I can pull off a 44 Promaster Diver but I don't think I could do this one.

[@Alias_Anybody]

@@jollyrob It's similar to the Willard, I am at 19cm/7 1/3 inches and can absolutely wear this thing.

[@jollyrob]

@@Alias_Anybody yea it's spot on for me, I just meant it's not a particularly 'popular' size. I'd like a willard too btw. 👍

[@dude28405]

I was handling these during 2018 at a retail jeweler I thought that they were not worth the money they were asking but I would buy one at a certain price if the opportunity were availableWe will see

[@jpd7]

I just bought this watch in the 41mm Orange. Unlike what you said, I am planning on DIVING with this watch. It does say "Diver's 200M" on the back!

[@benjamr68]

Myota 8000 series movement is what I'd expect in a £75 Ali Express watch from a Chinese brand. No excuse for a Citizen-owned brand not to have a high-beat 9000 series Myota in there for that price. It would have made the watch slimmer too! I like the look of it though.

[@christophertayler4956]

I’m I wrong that Myota is owned by Citizen ?

[@benjamr68]

@@christophertayler4956 Yes, that's correct. Citizen own Myota. They also own Bulova.

[@markcoffman494]

Also has a plastic movement holder, I serviced one and was not impressed

[@camarocarl7130]

My accuracy out of the box is +/- 02 Seconds a day. Better than any Seiko 4R-36 I own.

[@ramspencer5492]

The Ali express $75 dollar watches often have better movements than that!

[@dinner_workingsly]

Whenever I wear that t shirt I wander around saying “ come to daddy” and “I will eat your soul.” Love me some Aphex!

[@NoelKunz]

Got the orange one just today on clearance at the Citizen outlet in Orlando, Florida for $225 out the door. At THIS price it’s great! At full price, I steered clear.

[@MJFallout]

Jody is right, the way it wears is great on this. Doesn't feel as wide as it is (the width being only in the lower part), doesn't feel as tall (maybe a function of cushion case somehow), and doesn't feel very heavy (good balance, comy bracelet). The clasp really is the weak point though. If you can, try it on.

[@johnsrabe]

Excellent review, and right on all points. But my friend … you’ll be so happy if you’ll just tack a carpet remnant to your ceiling above your desk, and put a small throw rug on your desktop. It will get rid of the boxy sound in your openings.

[@Alias_Anybody]

I have to assume they found those movements when they were selling some old production building and checked the boxes lying around.

[@johnnyjohnny7204]

mine has a hacking 821d. i purchased it just last month in nov 2022, so apparently they heard all the justified griping. note: that applied 'bulova' logo you mocked for the letter connections is done that way as an actual reproduction of the way the applied logo was done on these originally (tho some had written logos back then as well)...so you might want to cut that some slack. i know i'd prefer it accurate to the past vs improved.

[@namenotavailable11]

Spot on review Jody. A great look IMO but why they went for the 8000 series is beyond me. Would they save even $20 on the movement vs. the 9000 series? Still - I love the colour way if you can't afford an Ocean Crawler.

[@seanlowkey9388]

I almost bought the lunar a few years back. The thing that held me back was the 20mm lugs. Really wish they would update the whole line to 22mm, as i feel this also is a concern of other watch enthusiasts.

[@pascualex3021]

Aphex Twin shirt?! You, Sir don't stop to surprise us

[@RJtoon1]

Just saw the orange faced black rubber strap version on sale for C$600 at charmed jewellers today in Canada. Man I could tell right away this thing was like an early 70s retro type of re-issue it was solid man what a beautiful watch had no idea what kind of movement it, until now. With my 7 inch wrist the rubber strap at the lugs goes out of far ways before across down to your wrist, the rubber strap is actually fit it to butt up right against the case between the legs so there’s just no flexing, I would probably have to put my own strap on this if I got it

[@johndoyle1969]

A sweeping hand HAQ would have sold me quick.

[@bryanabell6143]

UHF and I'm sold.

[@johndoyle1969]

@@bryanabell6143 Agreed

[@errolmacdonald3256]

Never seen an internal cyclops eye before. Brilliant idea! If only the bezel were sloped to reduce the overall height of the watch and blend better with the cushion case. I really like a cushion case. I have a Vostok with what they term a "barrel case" and it has some of the same retro charisma.

[@purplellama3190]

That watch is such a beauty! Love the dial and insane depth which works well with those unique hour markers.

[@stusims6567]

I love Bulova watches! This one is a rare beauty, and that lume is incredible!!! There is definitely one of those in my future! Great review as always Jody!!!

[@frankgregory8891]

Great review! Muhle Glashutte SAR has an internally ground magnified date window.

[@Ahcelaht]

I almost bought one a year ago but the size and movement stopped me!

[@ipariszalonna]

There's a smaller 41 version out now (not the limited one from a few years ago). The movement is fine to be honest. I have the same one as in the video for over 2 years now and it's my most worn watch since. And it keeps perfect time, it's my most accurate mechanical watch with about +3-5sec/day.

[@Andrew-J316]

I rather have the 41mm “vintage” watch size. A Miyota 8000 series on this watch is unforgivable for the price AND from citizen!

[@juniorjohnson5961]

I just saw they have a new 41mm I'd like to see it review !

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

Citizen saves the best Miyotas for microbrands, they always use crappy 8 series movements in their own watches.

[@georgecostanza2157]

Big fan of this one, the indexes, the cushion case, the retro feel. I don’t mind the miyota 8000 movement either, I have a laco aachen with a miyota 8000 movement and I had it regulated by my watchmaker and it’s my most accurate auto now, the noise I don’t mind either. Can we expect this guy on the next lume wars?

[@ozludo]

I keep almost buying one of these, then getting tuned-off by the "price/movement ratio". Even $400 seems a stretch. They look stunning though.

[@janvachek]

Thanks for the review! I'm thinking of purchasing this watch for some time, but I'm still considering the 41mm version rather than 44mm...But after this video 44mm does not seems that big as the size would suggest when I look at the shots of the watch on your wrist. I have similar size of the wrist (a little bit smaller), so I think 44mm would not be too big for me. I know in overall it is a chunky piece of watch, but still on the wrist it looks pretty neat 👌

[@andrewmain8022]

The Devil is definitely in the detail here, Jody.

[@davebluesgeek7927]

Wow! You are the first one to open the back of this watch. Thanks

[@jasonkennethshonwise3850]

It’s a beautiful watch…I love it!!!

[@saintdave1877]

Ordered the red and black version in Xmas sale , got an email on delivery day saying out of stock , phoned/moaned and ended up getting the green version , which wasn't in the sale for £225 . Wears really well and looks fantastic , especially outside. The bracelet is my first experience of a president/jubilee type and it's very comfortable and got a good fit , the clasp is okay and I considered getting an Ali express milled one but then would lose the logo. Overall it's became a firm favourite quickly , like Jodie says if you can pick it up for a decent price it's well worth it. As for the size , unlike the lunar pilot it wears a lot less than its diameter.

[@adamrassi3516]

I've owned many Bulovas over the course of my collecting (wearing my 96B231 as I type :), and I have found their steel bracelets to be very comfortable.

[@williamparker2922]

R.I.P. pre-Citizen, Bulova. What a great company you were.

[@HughMacDonald20]

I own the emerald green version of this watch. Sure there’s a few pitfalls, but honestly the watch is beautiful. I was instantly taken with it. It’s one of my absolute favourites.

[@saintdave1877]

Same here , fast favourite.

[@lookatwrist]

Regarding Bulova's brand direction - most companies have some sense of a 10 year plan. But it changes every year. Bulova squarely fits in to that. In the early 10's, the focus was going to be Accuswiss, premium lineup. By the mid 2010s, the focus was all in on the Precisionist movement. By the late 2010s, the focus was on the trend for vintage inspired design and the automatic movement. All throughout, making sure they had a heaping selection of loud and abnoxious designs as well, mostly gargantuan "designed to be noticed" watches. By 2020 it looks like "Accutron" got it's own brand to not mix things up. I figured Accutron would focus on the new electrostatic movement, plus get the Precisionist movement for their more affordable options, and these would all be available with the 1960 and newer designs, while Bulova would focus on the 1950 and earlier segment in automatic. But that's not the case. Accutron has a line of premium Americana automatics, at a very high cost. And Bulova is keeping the Precisionist. So no idea where that's going.

[@JamesBond-lj6ms]

My first watch was a gold plated Bulova pocket watch. Don’t remember the model number. But I still have it. Got gifted it from my grandma when I was like 4-5. So very early 2000s. Anyway she got one for all her grandsons so me and my 2 cousins have the same watch.

[@artochoamovies]

Thanks for being my Super Bowl half time show Jody!

[@WatchmanSam]

I got the black and red just over a year ago from John Lewis for £250, love the watch but the bracelet is a hair puller so stuck it on a waffle strap and couldn't be happier with the wear and look. Bulova have just released a 41mm version in a load more colours so hopefully we'll see that on Jody's wrist soon

[@davidrosenblum2178]

What a shame. I think it looks amazing but you're right...they cheesed it with that movement. Who makes these choices? Thanks mate!

[@SubCapt]

There also is a slightly smaller version of it on the market. released in 2020, at 41mm, under ref. no. 96B343 (black dial, red bezel insert) and 96B344 (black dial, black bezel insert)

[@violinmke]

Watch fanatics care but I wonder whether Joe Average who has a love connection with the vintage appearance really cares what's in it. Like Timex , they're selling us back our memories.

[@williamhill7312]

Great video Jody, you hit it square on. I am a life long Bulova man, starting back in the 60's in childhood. The company was slated to be more upscale when Citizen hired Greg Thunn as the CEO and created the Accu Swiss line, I own one, and it's my favorite. However, after Citizen acquired the Frederique Constant Companies they went in a different direction and Bulova was back toward the bottom of the Citizen Family hierarchy. Recently they have tried to take advantage of the Bulova History by reissuing some of the great Bulova classics with Automatic movements, some are ok, but they are not what I call good values which is what Bulova stood for in the old days, great quality and value. It is sort of like what Toyota did to GM; better quality for value, however GM never had much integrity anyway, Bulova always did. When this model came out it made me mad, cheap movement, over priced, and that name plate! UGH!. The prices on Jomashop represent what should have been the original MSRP, then you at least could have said it wasn't all that great but the price is ok, but no, Citizen wanted to cash in on the Bulova brand name. This model should tell you something about what Bulova is today, another American icon that is a vestige of itself.

[@danielhristov6175]

Very good watch... i was undecided between this one and the king turtle manta ray half a year ago... Bought the seiko for over 600€ full of misalignments... when the green dial bulova was at 450€ on amazon... wich I regret not buying as thr bracelet looks far easier to adjust... also I didn’t know the bulova had sapphire... on amazon it said mineral... which put me off in the end

[@spdboat33]

Always enjoy your video's! Your honest opinions on watches are far better than those of other channels. That being said, I have searched high and low for a Rolex wall clock and have no luck finding one. Where might I acquire one?

[@tomfreeman1364]

I have the red and black, can’t take it off at the minute.

[@reginaldbowls7180]

Is it broken? Or just cursed.

[@cadenconley3153]

@@reginaldbowls7180 he had it fit too tight so it’s molded on there

[@nicholasdavies6264]

Same here !

[@certainly2509]

Amputate!

[@minutesecondhour3134]

Had this watch for a year or so, not this colour way the red and black. I love it! It’s a fantastic looking watch and takes you away from that stale Seiko look,

[@mfrankel8321]

Nice review on the devil diver reissue. The Bulava watch has a great design, but is a bit large and that cheap, lower beat movement is a vast disappointment.

[@josephk7530]

I bought the blue and yellow one for $229 USD plus tax at TJ Maxx today. I love it.

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Great pick up!

[@TenaciousLAXBro]

Yo!!!! Same here! At a TJ Maxx as well!

[@subtropictime6212]

Thanks for another great review Jody. Given that fact that the movement doesn't hack, does possibly back-hack as does the Seiko 7s26? I like the bracelet links and the indicies treatment and how that seems to work, diffusing and amplifying the effect of the light from the lume, like little light boxes or torches, clever and original, love the depth it adds as you pointed out.

[@bontottcsirke6301]

Funky looking vintage watch $300 and I will buy it anything above it is a different target audience. Thank you Jody for your Just one more watch review.

[@alexandersmith855]

The tongue-in-cheek explanation for the movement being a watch from the 70s deserves a calibre from the 70s.

[@christopherhilton2539]

Just ordered one from ShopHQ and got it for under $250. Can't wait to receive it.

[@lefizz55]

Richard D James, used to drink in the same watering holes as him around Hoxton square about 20 years ago. Love me some ambient house

[@glennpowell3444]

Ref.the movement. I don't understand why Bulova would use the valjou when they have access to that superquatz? Its like a car maker releasing a new model but then sticking a side valve lump in it rather than their latest twin cam ?

[@EastDallasKicks]

It’s 1:01am and I have to wake up at 6:00am but whatever I need C O N T E N T consumption

[@milanradisavljevic5692]

Owning two HAQ models from Bulova I kind of wished they did a HAQ-version of the Oceanographer as well. Would've bought the green one immediately. Especially after having bought 25 pcs. of replacement batteries for them.

[@wayneturner1336]

I’m a Bulova fan, I tried on the limited edition and 41 mm was a little too small for me. I heard about a un-numbered release and two things kept from picking it up: that miyota movement and that hideous logo. Not what I expected from Bulova. Shame considering the potential in their historical catalogue. Great review, good information, nice camera work!

[@richardg.jewell5202]

Not sure why every one has a downer on these movemnts. Ok, no hacking, but mine doesn't stutter, is very quiet, and is accurrate to -2/+3 seconds a day, which is far better than my Tudor that cost 12 times as much. As a nice looking but inexpensive daily wear watch its difficult to criticise for the £250 it cost.

[@AlexanderB.]

Hi Jody! There are even some newer versions of the Miyota 8 series movement that have been upgraded to have hacking. I wonder why they haven't at least used these for this watch. I don't think they are as bad. But for me the real deal killers are the diameter of 44 mm and the acrylic bezel insert. Cheers!

[@nahmad6866]

Definitely remember when the automatic bulova Accu swiss dropped in price one of the first purchases I made influeced by this channel

[@gonnahavemesomefun]

Fantastic review, so I bought one. Got it new for £320 not a bad price I thought.

[@huckinator]

Not crazy about the colors of this one but my gosh this watch is a beauty!

[@paulwolf8510]

Divers extensions also make it easy to put over light gloves instead of the watch being pushed up by out glove and down by your jacket

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Gloves?!?! I live in Sydney. The only gloves I wear are when I'm on a pushbike! 🤣

[@paulwolf8510]

@@JustOneMoreWatch well it’s -11C in Milwaukee today

[@duncanhamilton5841]

Almost bought one before Christmas, but couldn't face another watch with the dog 8k movement in it - had a gorgeous Citizen NY0076-10EE titanium Promaster limited edition (as well as its little steel brother the NY0087-13EE) and that was a fantastic watch completely ruined by the fact it hissed and wobbled like a drunk snake. Sold them both last month to trade up, as I was finding I'd take them off after 30 mins due to the bloody noise. Anyhow, bought a Khaki King instead of the Devil Diver, and couldn't be happier with it.

[@fedomandez]

The internal date cyclope it's really nice. I've got a Philips Watch that has the len applied on the dial's date window. And that's awesome

[@peterbdavies]

I have a Citizen Titanium Promaster GMT Diver (BJ7111-51M) with an internal cyclops. I think it works well.

[@finesse49]

The singular of lens, wait for it, is lens.

[@fedomandez]

@@finesse49 ahah sorry, I didn't check before posting

[@ichris2011]

I think this watch is a prime example of the spoiling we’ve had from Ali express spec monster watches that have $0 in their budget for R&D. The original devil diver had a dial made by singer and a case made by huguenin freres. I would imagine it’s not cheap to remake those elements today as none of them are parts available from a supplier off the shelf. I think +-$500 is perfectly reasonable for what you actually get

[@iancadwallender9779]

I like this Bulova.Its over priced At £500,but I've found it for £250 which makes more sense.Im no expert in automatic movements,so couldn't give a stuff about the miyota

[@khronokraze]

I totally agree on the applied logo. Always felt it looked like crap. Random connection points and some of the letters that have a hole in it are filled. It just looks a bit too sloppy and needs some clean up either as individual letters, or, I would have been fine with a clean printed logo instead. I really wish they would have made all the devil divers in 41mm. Like most, if not all, of Bulova's vintage heritage archive reissues, I feel they just made them a little too big. I really wanted to like this one and considered getting one upon early announcements and photos. But, once out and looking at it closer, it doesn't quite hit enough good points to make it worth owning... even at gray market price of around $400.

[@swright5690]

I want a quartz version! Gasp! Could they not just drop a 262 kHz quartz in it? Scary accurate...smooth second hand sweep. What's not to love? Mechanical watches with 40 (or even 70) hours of power and their -20 to +40 accuracy (sometimes better - I know) leave me cold. Bulova has a great history of battery powered watches (214/218) and even offer quartz watches today. Call me crazy.

[@saccaball]

I would change the strap, cheap pressed clasp and cheap divers extension. A double whammy.

[@PatrickEVRAable]

Didn't have you pegged as a Aphex Twin fan Jody... Love a bit of idm acid techno do you?!

[@jamesblonde2271]

(Late comment) Really want this watch but the more I hear about the 8 series Miyota the more I worry. There's also the hand winding issue, apparently they don't like it and the keyless works is delicate.

[@ThemysteriousMrP]

Think if you like the retro watch look of this one you’ll buy it despite the cheaper movement because you just want it. I expect Bulova knew this when they put it in! Nice review. Very balanced