The Ultimate TF2x10 Heavy Tier List

TF2x10 is a mode where all of the weapons in the game have their stats multiplied by 10. And not only is it fun, it's surprisingly playable! This is the Heavy entry in the TF2x10 tier list series, which I've been excited to do. Let me know which class I should do next!
UGC Gaming servers: ugc-gaming.net/servers/tf2/
Join the community!
My other channel: / @bluesnest
Steam group: steamcommunity.com/groups/GreatBlueHeron
Discord: discord.gg/TFVcZUR
Twitch: / greatblue
Patreon: / greatblue
Outro music by liledix4: • 🎵 Graze the Roof ︱ PvZ...

[@raka3909]

For the Fists of Steel: You can actually negate the holster speed when you switch to your other weapon first AND THEN to the weapon you want to switch to, like if you want to switch from the fists to your minigun, just switch to the secondary first and then the minigun, cause the holster speed only applies to the first weapon you swap to

[@sallardofsallardia4152]

And so, Raka became a Prophet, an educator for centuries to come. Humanity came to them for knowledge, and they delivered.

[@riptide12346]

Oh prophet Raka how do I get better at tf2

[@totallytoaster0426]

Wait, people don't know this yet?

[@itsjustketsu9812]

Actually you can also just switch back to the fists and instantly back to the primary if you don't have a secondary, so a 1-3-1 really fast, since holster speed penalty only applies when FULLY drawn

[@kimgkomg]

This doesn't quite work because you are still unable to fire with your new weapon. This does work in normal tf2 however

[@gummybread]

I don’t know why, but I love that long drawn out fight with the scoot in the KGB clip. It’s just an eternity of “I’m gunna get ya, you’ll mess up eventually” and then they do and the payoff is death to everyone in sight.

[@agilitykissa]

It was painful to watch but I couldn't look away

[@TheDizzyBroBat]

stock: scout natascha: medic tomislav: sniper brass beast: sentry huo long heater: pyro

[@gabrielbarron7667]

True dough

[@yapflipthegrunt4687]

Natascha is payday 2 grinder.

[@apyr1439]

@@yapflipthegrunt4687 Pre nerf Grinder*

[@AlphaSquadZero]

Long ago the classes lived in harmony. Then everything changed when the kunai spies attacked. Only the Heavy, the master of 5 classes, could stop them. But when the world needed him most, he vanished.

[@Kaiserboo1871]

@@AlphaSquadZero underrated comment

[@algo985]

The fact that he mistook 5 seconds for specifically 12 seconds means he binge watched Meet the Heavy on loop at some point

[@stoneman18]

Exactly lol

[@surprisedlobsta8543]

a $400,000 mistake

[@satan1841]

PEWDIEPIE IS THAT YOU OMG

[@zeddyandshellette7668]

@@satan1841 this reply may or may not be a joke But the answer is no

[@satan1841]

@@zeddyandshellette7668 I can read dude

[@mr.outlaw231]

39:39 For some reason, Heavy just slowly pulling out the steak is hilarious to me.

[@davidhong1934]

"Killing babies can wait. Heavy need to pull out meat." _--Mister Pootis "Heavy" Spencer, as himself_

[@EvanSakaguchi]

I saw what you said right as I read your comment

[@Cursedc23]

The brass beast is good if you can waste 10 million years of your life reving it up.

[@trashremade1792]

Yup, he does say that

[@yourlocalcorrectidiot927]

Yep

[@trashremade1792]

Ha you edited it

[@Cursedc23]

@@trashremade1792 I made it sound more funny.

[@trashremade1792]

@@Cursedc23 you did

[@GabrielAidley]

For the Tomislav: I remember reading that in 2007 TF2, some players bound shoot to their mouse scroll wheel so they could get the max efficiency out of the Pistol(it functioned differently back then) so I think the same thing could be done for the Tomislav, making it much less painful and fire much faster!!

[@TheVoidMachineSystem]

I can confirm, it's effectively semi auto in x10.

[@no-better-name]

can confirm (almost), wrote a simple AHK script to spam LMB for me in x100

[@I0NE007]

"So the Hou-long Heater is going right to the top of Meta; it doesn't have much utility but it's the perfect damage stick." So what you're really me is that you just need to run around whacking people with the big man's "hot M.E.A.T. stick."

[@FrenchineerGaming]

The who long dragon

[@thatdemoninthecar]

Penetration works too!

[@Dementia_Springtrap]

This comment chain is brilliant.

[@ghosty3494]

*AHHH*

[@spamfolder2497]

@@FrenchineerGaming aw

[@purplehaze2358]

Times 10 is so bizarrely misleading in terms of what it actually does to weapon stats.

[@augustcross2305]

Yeah, it seems to change further and further away from that description as time has gone on in order to balance the absolute chaos (or to make un-multipliable weapons more appealing).

[@schniemand]

@@augustcross2305 I don't think it's as much a sense of balance as it is just random inconsistent bullshit.

[@Will-zs9ny]

Great that you're showing corresponding weapon footage now!

[@sweetmamaschili4051]

Heavy is the only class I think is *too* good in x10. He out speeds, damages, and most of the time tanks more than anyone else.

[@vireperilous4163]

Kunai Spies: Hey.

[@jordanium5593]

@@vireperilous4163 kunai spies just tank, and arent fast and dont deal alot of damage without backstabs, and most people cant aim headshots

[@algo985]

@@jordanium5593 I don't think being hard to play makes a class worse, but I do agree Heavy is a lot more versatile

[@vireperilous4163]

@@jordanium5593 Their invisibility can be used to escape in place of mobility, and invisibility can also be used to get behind the enemy for a backstab solving the damage problem. As for most people can’t hit headshots… Diamondback?

[@maewmel]

@@vireperilous4163 diamondback’s damage penalty makes it a peashooter so stock would be better imo, or enforcer if you can land a hit

[@ronaid-with-an-i]

waiting for the day he says "in some situations it can beat the meat"

[@TomatoRadio]

It gonna be the hot hand. I can f e e l it.

[@redspartan0614]

In x10 the Tomislav is extremely overpowered because it has dead accuracy, and you can completely null it’s downside but just pressing m1 while holding m2, and the damage can 1 shot just about everything

[@Cursedc23]

“1 shit about everything”

[@yourlocalcorrectidiot927]

And because it is semi auto essentially just use a macro

[@Leonardo_H.]

@@yourlocalcorrectidiot927 or just bind shoot on mouse wheel

[@squanguslobotomus7890]

hmm yes today i will be annoying as fuck

[@DausBugaboo]

It's depressing how used it is in some x100 servers with dalokohs and G.R.U. They're like server clearers. The forsaken set.

[@elitewill-fr3dx]

Watching the demo trying to sticky jump after you already destroyed them at 9:22 had me rolling

[@bertsampson7869]

When the KGB doesn’t give you 1000% crit chance

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

"Haha, I'm immune to crits!" "Good. Now my other 900% crit rate can stretch."

[@chainsawplayin]

2^10 times more damage with RAINBOW CRITS

[@I-Stole-Your-Toast700]

Crit10

[@ToastiVids]

I think x10 tomislav is evidence that the heavy update should have a semi auto minigun. I personally love the tomislav because I tend to prefer single shot guns with high damage in games.

[@Chasodey]

I think it would be a good question to ask the best shotgun in games for you.

[@tdfhjd]

A single shot mini gun defeats the point of it being a mini gun

[@Swagster87]

Play sniper then 🙏

[@brazenduke8164]

I believe they did patch the danger shield with the heater. Long as they don’t shoot you at least. I’ve been able to walk right up to heavies using it and get a shit load of overheal, like kunai levels super quickly.

[@hellsgames5322]

pretty sure danger also works on bullets in a lot of servers

[@br4ss_crusader973]

Heavy in x10 is basically doom slayer using the chain gun with mobile turret

[@finn4019]

good BB points but consider: I capped X10 highertower with it

[@d.yang-abird7045]

Never thought I’d see the day when the steak is better than the banana

[@sirchris6047]

That would be every day

[@Skullhawk13]

@@sirchris6047 true, Steak is zero carbs, Fruit have sugar.

[@thatdemoninthecar]

@@Skullhawk13 but potassium

[@Skullhawk13]

@@thatdemoninthecar plants are what food eats tho..:p

[@eduardpeeterlemming]

If x10 is crazy then x100 is fricking chaotic hell

[@imnotsimonyes5184]

I once saw x1,000,000 and it is so chaotic that some weapons are straight out banned

[@eduardpeeterlemming]

@@imnotsimonyes5184 spy's butterknife is now as fast as speed of light

[@gumbothegreat4596]

I find it interesting that you always advise everyone to stick to the M.E.A.T. tier, despite making so many other play styles seem way more fun.

[@Mima_the_vengeful_spirit]

B.B. in times ten is slow to rev and turns you in a freaking sentry...but god knows how much damage you can sponge and deal with it (a ton)

[@wildvolt]

the ultimate anti spawncamp gun

[@yiftach2949]

The Holiday Punch is THE BEST counter to the annoying Kunai spies who are already over healed, especially if grappling hooks are enabled on the server. You don't even need a coordinated team because chances are that spy ticked off EVERYONE on your team so they'll gang on that poor laughing dude no matter what. Im kind of shocked you didnt mention that because countering annoying loadouts is the main use of the Holiday Punch.

[@dexter2392]

you don't need the holiday punch for that the huo-long heater already counters kunai spies the flames do like 500 damage per second and the afterburn is 140 so in 2-3 seconds a kunai spy is dead. and you don't even need to see him to fire

[@yiftach2949]

@@dexter2392 yes but prolonging their suffering is ideal

[@coldfire-blitz3122]

Nobody: x10 Fists of Steel Heavies: "I AM BOOLETPROOOOF!"

[@Mima_the_vengeful_spirit]

that one scout with a fish: *slap*

[@badopinionssquid1735]

Then you flick them and they explode

[@slothmanthepug8755]

With the holiday punch, make someone laugh and then rev up brass beast. They will probably stop laughing before your done revving but, they won’t have much time to recover and then get blasted away

[@mr.anakinguy7098]

Fun fact, M.E.A.T. stands for Meta: Exceptional at All Times

[@hydraoverlord3283]

The brass beast is still really good in ×10 mvm.

[@ivannatinkle8196]

I didn't even know 10x mvm existed

[@hydraoverlord3283]

@@ivannatinkle8196 it exists there are just not as many as non mvm servers.

[@ivannatinkle8196]

@@hydraoverlord3283 I'll have to try it when I get a new laptop

[@davidgg8318]

What x10 servers do you play? The ones I go to have the stats a bit different.

[@kurwaspah]

UGC 10X

[@theturnc0at]

Fun fact: Slower firing speed can be negated by repeatedly tap-firing, to an extent.

[@davisdf3064]

The most fun way to deal with tryhards in TF2 x10 is to holiday punch and *pow* them out of existence

[@Mima_the_vengeful_spirit]

guaranteed tickle

[@jaysbadatgaming]

The Brass Beast in x10 really does make Heavy become a sentry

[@Dramilos]

I like watching these videos to sleep because everytime he starts talking about the panick attack i just immediatly fall asleep

[@nevertwice5021]

God i love these vids always great man.

[@taureon_]

hey great blue is there a version of x10 that is mathematically accurate?

[@LoraLoibu]

anything with a damage debuff of 10% or more literally does nothing AND TRUST ME, THERE ARE A LOT OF WEAPONS WITH DAMAGE DEBUFFS

[@captainbarnark8709]

I really appreciate you using footage of the weapon you're talking about now!

[@bruschetta7711]

Thank you for getting footage of the other weapons, making us more interested in x10

[@fortnitesexman]

Amazing, they made the eviction notice actually do what it says it does It says on wearer, but it's normally only while active, seriously valve, fix this...make it on wearer I beg

[@taklampan650]

Love these vids, even thought I've never played x10

[@imnotsimonyes5184]

Tried out x100. Tomislav one-hits classes with their normal TF2 health.

[@trivynium]

Minigun has 50000 ammo for sum reason, no speed boost Huo-long heater instandly fucked everything, except splendid screen demoknight. Also drain out ammo in less than 2 seconds Natasha take ages to rev up, good heal but kinda useless Brass beast just one shot, that is if you able to rev it up

[@ChineseMusicianGamer]

Good job actually matching footage to the weapon this time

[@VeryPeeved]

The main issue with the Fists of Steel is that Demoknights exist. fifty of them. per server. per team.

[@mixelator9439]

Isn’t it ironic that the two lunchbox items that’s contain meat aren’t even in the section *named* “MEAT”?

[@ChronicallyOn]

I just got an odd thought while watching this video that could be interesting for regular tf2. What if heavy could equip shotguns in his primary slot… to get rid of the minigun entirely. It provides him enough of a speed boost to lets say, between medic and spy, and with the option of a secondary and good damage output plus a good speed, it would be a proper fat scout to rival the demoknight

[@zlaggaming68]

Demomans nine iron the eye lander reskin is different for the fact it has the same knock back as the x10 force a nature but has slower swing speed as a downside I think it’s very underrated because I find it fun to launch people into hazards like cliffs and saws and being able to run away easily

[@TheDunsparceGames]

there’s a word for the x10 fists of steel that i’ll use from another game this weapon is what us gamers would call an “idiot killer” it completely shuts down newer less experienced players but more experienced players understand that simply pulling out your melee and pressing m1 will pretty much destroy them if anyone understands the game reference you are a gigachad

[@Habibskibi]

here is my secret.... Huo long heater + Dalokahs bar + Eviction Notice

[@-cams.]

dear god...

[@dragontamer2474]

I'm pondering if the Banana's recharge time is as bad as it stands when you compare it towards it being a team focused item over a self healing item. If it's 99% recharge rate applies to being thrown does that mean you can rapidly splash down some healing kits for your buds and in a sense be a secondary form of medic? It would still bump it up to only 1 or 2 uses honestly but I wanted to throw it out and see if any experienced 10x players could inform me on that strat.

[@shield_of_hope2798]

Pre-1.8 minecraft combat? I am pretty sure you mean pre-1.9.

[@Kelsang01]

I’ve been playing a lot of tf2 x10 recently thanks to your videos.

[@flameyboy4184]

The best x10 heavy weapon is obviously the brass beast, who doesn’t love 0 mobility and a full minute of spinup time

[@purplehaze2358]

They nerfed the panic attack to the point of being blatantly unusable? Damn, times 10 is sounding more and more like vanilla TF2 as time goes on.

[@princesscadance197]

x10 Brass Beast Heavy revving up: 'You better run, cowards!' Enemy: 'Wow, it's really nice of that Heavy to give us ample time to escape before firing.'

[@Hnui03]

What about Holiday Punch + Brass Beast? You punch them and menacingly rev up your gun while they watch helplessly so you can watch the hope drain from their eyes? That should be a listed upside to the HP XD

[@SpaceGuyOnline]

The Natascha's plus 30 HP comes from the original original unreleased design for the natascha before it was called the Natascha... complex stuff. The Ludmille as it would have been called, had the same design as the Natascha in additon to nearly identical stats with its damage resistances and damage penalty. However it didn't have the slow effect on hit. It gave 3 HP on hit. Kinda overpowered on Heavy which is why it was scrapped and turned into the Natascha... good to know x10 brought it back and made it worse.

[@Manglet762]

I love that Great Blue embraced the joke with the Meat tier after his spy video.

[@sometechydude2324]

I wish they changed the Sandvich’s stats in X10 to where it said that it restored 3000 HP because it’s X10 but because you didn’t have a max health buff it’d still work the exact same way effectively, except I guess it could still heal you to full if you took damage while eating so it would be slightly changed

[@ThatguycalledJoe]

The Pistol used to be semi-automatic, a long long time ago. I guess that's maybe a more apt comparison for the Tomislav here. The Brass Beast here is the true "become the Sentry" gun. In general the old Panic Attack should be re-added to the game. Same for the old Your Eternal Reward, that should be reverted but leave the Wanga Prick as it is so they're not clones anymore. Also make Wanga Prick drop. You could add "FP" and "HS" to the tier name, plus other things like "BB" for Bread Bite, not that that'll ever come up again. Also, what's the best class/group to try to dunk the bomb in Highertower? I wouldn't call that Dalokohs Bar thing a glitch. A quirk, more like, because it's running exactly as stated. It gives you +500 HP for the rest of that life, didn't say anything about having to keep it equipped. Also, if you have an allied Spy who's willing to help (or just someone willing to go Spy to help), you could abuse a quirk of the Dead Ringer to have them disguise as you and set their Dead Ringer off while they appear to have their secondary deployed because if a Dead Ringer Spy disguised as an ally "dies", then they will still drop a real weapon that you can pick up and use. The just do your thing and Bob's your uncle.

[@burritoman2k]

Huh, so I've been unintentionally giving myself an advantage using the bread bite instead of the GRU. Interesting

[@aperson4287]

My personal heavy Loadout is The Huo Long Heater The Family Business The Holiday Punch. I love having 3 incredibly stupid one shots available at the same time.

[@ShadowSteve-zp7nz]

I love it

[@dougthedonkey1805]

I’m so glad you dissed the pre-1.8 Minecraft combat

[@ComFurt]

6:25 Very valiant effort at remembering the word attrition xD

[@Astrosk1er]

I love how the video starts off with heavy shooting his shotgun like it’s a minigun

[@clownimpregnator]

GRU is op as a melee only run. If you eat Dalok first and then pick up health packs while having the GRU active heals you and your HP no longer drains.

[@AC-jb7yo]

The Tomislav is basically the squeezer from splatoon I know it’s a weird comparison but the squeezer from splatoon it’s tap shot is 100% accurate just like the tomislav and it’s a masher weapon or else it’s trash.

[@VulcanicCloud]

The Huo Long Heater is just broken and overpowered, even in a gamemode like x10. Combined with some of the fastest speed and having 800 health with the Dalokas Bar, you really can't be countered. The damage output is ridiculous, where as long as you get up and close to whoever your target is, they're just dead. Sure spy's can backstab them, but as long as you constantly move, spy won't be able to catch up, and it's a death wish to try it when just standing in the flames can kill a kunai spy in a second. Airblast spamming pyro's also if on hightower, but heavy is just so quick he can melt the pyro before getting launched. It's one of those loadouts where you're only choice is to use the same loadout to win, which is stupidly op. Unless you have top tier sniper aim and can headshot the speedy heavy with a fully charged machina. There's a reason it's so hated, it's too good lol.

[@cccyanide3034]

Fun little trivia for the Holiday punch : The laughing animation is about the same speed as the Brass beast revving up, so you can punch someone and then pull out the minigun, and they cannot do anything but watch as you veeeerrrryyyy slowly lower your minigun, and then erase them from the surface of the Earth the moment they are finally free to move.

[@EnergyBurst2]

If I recall back when x10 first started getting big a few years back when higher tower and what not first came to fame the Huo Long instead of the damage of the fire ring it just became much bigger, though its been a long time so I could be fever dreaming that. I also remember memeing with machine gun fist eviction notice heavy before the whole health drain mechanic was a thing.

[@mm3shadowman982]

If you do soldier, than the Direct Hit should have it's own tier.

[@Mima_the_vengeful_spirit]

Direct hit on x10: on hit: instant delet victim on miss: does nothing. Particularity: has hitscan like rockets (they go real fast)

[@therealvbw]

In x1000, the GRU give you a passive speed boost, faster than a scout

[@Novistador96]

Tomislav is a Jakobs!

[@Kohchu]

x10 is fun, for how ridiculous, and over the top it is; but all it takes is one Heavy going Huo-Long, Dalokah's Bar, and Eviction Notice; and the fun is over. Good luck dealing with a Heavy who is faster then a Demoknight with 4 heads, who instantly kills anyone at point blank, and has 600 health. There is NOTHING you can do to counter this, other then pull out the Natascha, and that's not fun.

[@-sk8-437]

i would love to see the soldier tier list next

[@rodrigatorx2266]

12:50 that pyro must have been rather scared, given how close he got

[@mreccplaze740]

The brass beast turns you into a sentry

[@goldenexperiencerequiem4714]

I’m not used to heavy moving that fast, it’s making me nauseous as hell

[@steambot3000]

Why does the panic attack has such crippling stats compared to family business? I mean, neither can have a 100% damage penalty but at least compromise as with the family beeswax. Imagine the possibility of super shotgun

[@trashremade1792]

Btw if you taunt while holding the bannana it speeds up the taunt Also there is a way to negate the fist of steel holster speed (not the panic attack) you switch between the gun you want and the fist of steel twice and the holster speed doesnt effect it

[@slothmanthepug8755]

The second banana has faster taunt speed so if you conga the animation is sped up

[@OMalleyTheMaggot]

Also as for food items you can drop the sandwich or whatever in spawn, eat a dalokos, then pick up your sandwich and have 800 health and throwing medkits, or 800 health and 2000 huo long ammo. Heavy is cancer, trust me. I've put too much time into 10x.

[@daltonpage7607]

20:37 On the x100 and x1000 servers they do keep the original version of the panic attack so you can still play with it on those servers.

[@Dark_Slayer3000]

Fists of steel are amazing against sentries :D

[@UnbornHeretic]

The brass beast spins up so painfully slow lol.

[@poed75]

Tomislov be like Meet: The fat sniper. "Comrade, this is great job!"

[@silenc3068]

Glad to see my favorite heavy weapon (The Heater) is as high as it is

[@yumithehunter6292]

4:55 yes. That’s why I still used the Natasha now… I miss the old version

[@Oofio2]

1000 times version of the fists of steal will make you gain health when you get shot like the Darwen shield but worse

[@Survivor1672-]

The family business crashed my game one time

[@Survivor1672-]

So did the panic attack

[@chinchillageneral]

In other words, play heavy if you're playing TF20

[@thefunpolice2806]

I remeber going to x100 server and making 3 people rage quit from the hulong heater

[@Mima_the_vengeful_spirit]

bet an engie pootis penser

[@kbtvstudios9528]

I just started playing TF2 Yesterday, the base game is pretty fun, but probably not ready for X10 yet.

[@ricebowlderp1697]

"You just have to aim better", No way guys he just solved all my aiming problems (9:50)

[@veryrealdrdog]

oh yeah, let me just run at this guy who is invincible to ranged damage with my ranged weapon

[@RedShocktrooperRST]

Sandvich: No, doctor. I am medic now.

[@radmanstan413]

What would’ve been hilarious is that the tomislav made the whole character quiet. Like no foot steps and no voice lines while equipped.

[@xypherloll]

Are you doing a x10 tier list by class in order or random order?

[@panagamer203]

21:28 Heavy: Let's go in space

[@lexi3312]

Man, who'dve thought itd take ×10 to give heavy so many unique, fun playstyles.

[@sleeby4226]

In x100 pyro becomes W+M2 and is even more powerful than when W+M1ing

[@VenetinOfficial]

iirc the dalokohs used to have a time limit. no idea why they removed it, but i guess big hp = funny. gives one hell of a buff for literally nothing

[@TealTactics]

Dude... What are the odds I run into your comment here O_O