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@Ghoulbladezilla01073 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity, is there a talisman or at least an armor set that has the part breaker skill and the weak point skill. Those two skills together can really destroy monster parts and if there is a talisman with those skills, with your greatsword set in this video that will be extremely powerful in challenging battles.
@giratina66653 жыл бұрын
most likely it is due to fluctuating values. Maybe all of your attacks can hit for 30 percent less to 30 percent more damage and you really start to notice once you have big critical hits. JRPGs such as Persona or Octopath Traveler have such mechanics too
@femthingevelyn3 жыл бұрын
I do think there's a dice roll behind the scenes, but the crit seems to multiply after the roll, which is why high rolls do so much more damage than low rolls
@giratina66653 жыл бұрын
@@femthingevelyn since you can swap mulipliers freely and crits most likely are just multipliers too I don't think there is anything special to the order when you get your roll multiplied. Still, heavier hits in general make it more visible as both of us have pointed out already
@giratina66653 жыл бұрын
Pokémon has this too, of course
@Sir.Y33tus-Maximus3 жыл бұрын
Great Sword: Exist Paradise: This is a garbage weapon Reverto: Am I a Joke to you?
@SaintAdjacent3 жыл бұрын
1) monster parts have different resistances 2) Wining H2H increases the damage even if you don't have Showdown 3) if you win a H2H and Do have Showdown True Wide Slash is amazing. Breaking the part also boosts the damage of that hit. No damage isn't random there's stuff that affects it. Using the Double attacks gets you a good amount of Kinship so you waste less time.
@UngLITch3d- Жыл бұрын
Thanks I didn’t know that either
@WH40ktyranids3 жыл бұрын
I need my ROCKET POWERED GREAT SWORD!
@PlagueOfGripes3 жыл бұрын
Have experienced the same thing with GS. But the damage it brings is too good to pass up. I can't find much of a reason to use Sword/Shield over GS as a result; S&S don't really do anything besides provide some light calc defense and the ability to counter random attacks that you can't otherwise double team.
@Kasaaz3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the only reason to really mess with the S&S is for the ones with higher status chances, like the Rathian one's ability to apply Noxious Poison. This is assuming a bunch of the mechanics for how status chances work (multiple hits are more desirable, etc.)
@muninn923 жыл бұрын
Different monster parts on the same monster have different defense even if all the parts are weak to the same type of damage. I was farming Rathian at the beginning with the great sword and damage to the head was consistent amongst the Rathian and the damage was different to the tail compared to the head.
@solomon96553 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe they brought over hit zones, that’s kinda funny
@jeremyjoyner97963 жыл бұрын
Seems kinda obvious now that I think about it, especially considering how many of the character and monstie stats are hidden (which is ridiculously stupid design imo).
@deinonychusthewyvernarapto93093 жыл бұрын
Honesty the best battle buddy has to be Reverto
@belaf13293 жыл бұрын
+1
@rattings91213 жыл бұрын
So true. He does almost 2000 damage for me with his charged slash move and WRECKS monster parts. The worst I have it sadly say is Kayna in my opinion.
@deinonychusthewyvernarapto93093 жыл бұрын
@@rattings9121 eh I think it’s Alwin. When he’s in my team all he does is Allose
@gothxm3 жыл бұрын
He's so OP lmao. He makes me want to be a hunter in Stories 2 haha.
@danielnelson48813 жыл бұрын
Reverto: Is an actual effing BEAST! Is also a hilarious, chill as hell, total dudebro.
@rebornsage71153 жыл бұрын
Ive been running a slugger charm. It has saved me a lot when you can just stun a monster who attacks multiple times
@emc2463 жыл бұрын
Have you guys considered making monstie rankings within attack types and elements? It would be helpful for teambuilding to see comparisons between direct competition.
@HelloGeneral3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they added an rng variable to the damage calc to simulate the inconsistency/timing difficulty of the greatsword in the mainline games. High risk, high reward.
@ParadiseCentral3 жыл бұрын
This is how it feels to me!
@jude41953 жыл бұрын
Its probably because each part has an effectiveness level is what i call it for example a tiger rex head and kezu head are both weak to GS but tiger rex head is 5 blocks weak while kezu is 4 blocks weak
@danielnelson48813 жыл бұрын
Tiger rex? Tigrex.. all one word. If it was two it would be Tig rex
@tylerflint89893 жыл бұрын
I've found the hammer three charge skill obliterates monster parts. You may want to check on that while you're at it.
@hellish_eden30473 жыл бұрын
I did 3032 damage with it
@jjaapp183 жыл бұрын
It's just annoying because you can only build charges on hammer with double attacks, and you can't always coordinate those.
@ZekeTrailblazer3 жыл бұрын
@@jjaapp18 It also builds with head to head.
@Clavitz13 жыл бұрын
@@jjaapp18 they should give hammer a basic charge skill for when you or a monstie aren't targeted.
@danielnelson48813 жыл бұрын
@@Clavitz1 Dude.. you get a charge pretty much when you or your monster are being focused anyway... If it's you being targeted just win the HtH. If it's your monstie, just check to make sure they've got the right thing goin on so they are going to win the HtH, and then make sure you're attacking using that type as well- Boom! Double attack! Both scenarios result in a charge block as both scenarios are you winning a HtH which is what Hammer requires for a charge. You can do this with Reverto too (because you're a man of culture, you use Reverto obvs), if you double attack with him.
@resentfulshogun95913 жыл бұрын
2:08 lalala guy about to go slay a deviljho with a box
@thenickrider023 жыл бұрын
With this build you can finally match 1% of reverto's power
@Pri1Maiden3 жыл бұрын
I was using SnS until now, and yeah I felt like it was better, lesser cost of kinship gauge and like in regular games I was thinking that the more hits you land while using an elemental weapon the better it is. And in HR after finishing the story, I started to reconsider which one's better, the damages in double attacks (which I loved) seems really good to me with GS.
@divinesolar46063 жыл бұрын
Lol. I'm way ahead of you guys on this one! Haha. Been running this build since 4 days ago, good video. Sad now to see everyone is gonna run it. Also yes, some monster parts take less damage. The tail in particular is very tanky! The stomach is the weakest and what you should use your kinship and power abilities on. I like to use super whetstones as well or use the horn buff for an overall 5 turn team buff. Super whet i prefer as it uses no kinship.
@ZachM5253 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video - I had slept on the Greatsword for the same reason - SnS gave decent damage + Defense but I tried Greatsword last night using the above mentioned abilities in the video and man does it speed up story fights. If you save the charge for a knockdown you can do INSANE damage even at low levels in a single turn. Story monsters which have significantly less HP pools than say Royals, usually around 3-7K hp for a story monster can lose over HALF of their HP on a single knock down. I was fighting a Jade Barroth (I'm level 21) and knocked him down and my GS Charged attack did 850 dmg + Naracuga did another 400 damage and then my Story NPCs did their Kinship ability for 875 damage and the Jade Barroth was killed in like 3 turns having done 2125 damage on a single turn at level 21. Crazy damage on knockdowns is possible very early on.
@JustNEXSUS3 жыл бұрын
Off topic Question But do you know if Fatalis is Repeatable cause i fought him once and i want to farm him for the other Gear
@mrposhshark3 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to get to endgame and start playing with things. This video has been really insightful cheers mate!
@Kasaaz3 жыл бұрын
I've been using Reverto as the post-game companion just because it gives me a 2 in 3 chance to have the monsters target something I control. At the same time, I feel like he does SO MUCH more damage than anything else.
@leonmagnusgamingchannel3 жыл бұрын
Dude i want to unlock reverto skills and the ability to use his kinship move by urself like him and Kyle xD
@MadMaceGaming3 жыл бұрын
I'm a little late here, this breakdown is on point and gives me an idea of how I want to build my character. But I would also like to see your thoughts on a gunlance build. Gunlance has been my favorite weapon in every Monster Hunter game to date.
@synthw14313 жыл бұрын
the crit chance on your talisman and weapon along with the non elemental gs boost, might be overloading the dmg cap or smth when you're hitting those parts, you might hit a part that's weak to gs, you proc the crit and it overloads with all the buffs, could be a glitch
@kevindepoppe79953 жыл бұрын
@Paradise Central have you checked how much damage your build does after using whetstones? they really up the damage a lot
@BIazendraco3 жыл бұрын
Was able to hit 3k with spinning meteor on pukeis tail, just a pain to get those hammer charges.
@Moffattt3 жыл бұрын
i was hoping that we could get revertos 2 charge attack that hits for 2-3k without crits
@chikenmorris71703 жыл бұрын
When You do much lower damage is it in the same scenario every time or does the lower damage only happen when the monster targets someone else. Because I’m pretty sure winning a head to head will result in you doing increased damage with that attack, that could be what’s going on
@jocelyncordeiro4870 Жыл бұрын
I've been getting some crazy numbers with my hammer. Recently, I was able to get over 4000 damage using the burnblast chaser+ at level 70! Spinning meteor on a downed monster easily does over 2000 to 3000 damage.
@rsjustsenpaii53353 жыл бұрын
I’m having a blast with this should I get monster hunter rise?
@Sarimastus3 жыл бұрын
It's not random, there are 3 different weapon types Slash; Great sword, sword and shield. Blunt; Hammer; Hunting horn. Pierce; Bow, gunlance, There are markers on Monsters and their parts have a weakness to one of these types.
@Thaeru21133 жыл бұрын
Also, could you please make a series to outline what the beat monsties for each chapter/zone are. For people who are still on their play through.
@groudongamer31783 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to get ground slash?
@bradleyfly723 жыл бұрын
I already have pretty much the same build and don't do anywhere near as much Edit: Upgraded my gear and got a better sword now I can hit for 2k
@anubis243-x5h3 жыл бұрын
I saw it floating around somewhere that each weapon has a couple different three hit combo sequences (like power+power+power). I have no idea if it's true, but if it is that might explain the difference in hit values. Sometimes you're incidentally doing a combo, other times you aren't?
@sethmackenzie3 жыл бұрын
That was in MHS1. I didn't notice such a thing in MHS2. I believe that's not possible anymore.
@kobrraful3 жыл бұрын
well, depending on your weapon, the dmg could change. fire weapon vs ice monsters for instance, your dmg will be through the roof, but if you go against something that's either already fire based, or something not weak against fire the dmg will either be just normal, or lower than normal, etc. I don't think there's anything like a crit dmg multiplier in the game, I could be wrong but I haven't seen one yet, unless the stones affect the dmg from the crits as well as just a higher crit chance? haven't really tested that yet lol
@ZyferscrollLP3 жыл бұрын
reverto oneshotted zonogre with his groundslash, he critted for iver 7k i feel weak
@Kasaaz3 жыл бұрын
Beginning to wonder if there's a chance to ignore damage with the Great Sword on Crit, etc.
@akkovanwaardhuizen48713 жыл бұрын
how are you doing so much damage? i have the same build, (though weak point L tallisman without anything added). But my bloodbath diablos weapon is lvl 5 yet i never crit above 1500 on monsters like dread queen, elders etc. And i have no idea if iḿ doing something wrong or not but its really confusing :(
@Taskmaster233 жыл бұрын
What kind of monsters can boost are damage
@fabiolg67193 жыл бұрын
Are there deviant weapons for all the weapon types in this game?
@thegreenranger47033 жыл бұрын
Great video. I would love a gene guide. I have most of the SR monsties but don’t really know how to build them properly
@PANDAXD0013 жыл бұрын
Both Para and Arekkez have done gene guides. I believe they're like 3 or 4 days old
@thegreenranger47033 жыл бұрын
@@PANDAXD001 I’ll check these out thank you!
@BullyMaguir33 жыл бұрын
When I hit with charged slash, I only hit for around 600 damage.. unless the monster is knocked down. Sometimes I only hit for around 300. My massacre slicer and bloodbath armor are fully upgraded and everything. I'm using a Breaker XL and Crit-Kin XL talisman. What am I doing wrong?
@alexanderwilches36543 жыл бұрын
Same for me, do you sort this already?
@jhon1406 Жыл бұрын
Why did they make it so that the talismans have one name but the skills have another name? The genes are the same way: the genes have a name and the skills have a different one
@KingFurgo3 жыл бұрын
Dont forget the hammer, if you have a parapoison/blastfire/sleepseal chaser+ skill and get a crit you can get ridiculous damage. With a lvl 3 low rank tigrex hammer I hit a crit of 2083, without elementless bonus
@edu4mj3 жыл бұрын
im using weak pt (xl) for pve but rarely seen the crit on it. Is anyone experiencing the same thing? used to have weak pt (m) and it does better crit performance like ALOT. I would say the crit chance only like 10% for the XL. Is it a bug or what?
@shiny6193 жыл бұрын
How did u get so many talismans????
@leonmagnusgamingchannel3 жыл бұрын
The melnyx has a option where u can roll random talisman for bottle caps
@MasterLoki19913 жыл бұрын
the damage is so great that it lags into the next hit? for real tho i think each part has a dif type of resistance some monsters have weak slash res on certain parts and vice versa but that's suppose to be indicated by the game already.
@horaxd71533 жыл бұрын
Can you have the set in the story or that's just in post-game ?
@bighammer99283 жыл бұрын
Deviants (Wich bloodbath is) are post story
@horaxd71533 жыл бұрын
@@bighammer9928 ok thx
@taylorclark10483 жыл бұрын
Why does reverto stat line weaker than me in attack, Im using a level 3 bloodbath diablos greatsword with bloodbath armor and reverto still does more than me, I mean I understand his health pool being more cuz he dont have a monster, but why is he hitting harder.
@ParadiseCentral3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s just because like Kyle they don’t have monsters so they have higher stats to compensate. Kyle and reverto hit hard and kinda need to since it’s just them!
@gloomymyra58393 жыл бұрын
Please someone help idk the materials need to upgrade my Bloodbath diablos GS ,is like desert queen something idk how to upgrade further
@ellathegreek2763 жыл бұрын
me too. I just cant find a high rank desert seltas queen
@gloomymyra58393 жыл бұрын
@@ellathegreek276 verga base camp she there but i hunt her and is no the itens need :(
@boeserKadser3 жыл бұрын
@@ellathegreek276 Elder Lair Z7 ( the volcano area)
@mygamedroid65643 жыл бұрын
Which which mit materials I need for this weapon? I stuck in lv2
@Nekomancer19833 жыл бұрын
The upgrade screen tells you the name of the monster over the parts list.
@juanoh47173 жыл бұрын
@@Nekomancer1983 where do i find the selta slice r +?
@Nekomancer19833 жыл бұрын
@@juanoh4717 Elder's Lair Z6
@duskyer23913 жыл бұрын
Are there differences in damage between Spd Tec and Pow?
@RPGeenius3 жыл бұрын
No. Those are just the rock paper scissors element of the game. They don't dictate power used.
@reapers_acc2 жыл бұрын
My Bloody diablos hits like a truck mostly 6-8k dmg
@oshikoriley323 жыл бұрын
Lmao, I was playing with greatsword hitting big numbers and am like is paradise serious about sword and shield being better. Lmao, here's my set up, GS, H, GL.
@masonschaar34233 жыл бұрын
You crit sometimes because that 4% on your gear..5 % with 5 hits..that's 25%.maybe that's why you got sometimes..the crit chance. Defense on some parts of the enemy would be a hidden mechanic. And if that's so..then you would (in theory) crit more. Look at how many times you crit n try to count them..tally up the number..and their you'll find your answer.
@Dromarch-eg7lo3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad greatsword is doing well now. I think in 3ds stories sns was way better because it had so many skills but I'm glad they made greatsword what it was meant to be, a very offensive weapon
@clydedavis36233 жыл бұрын
Noice collab
@mattj43623 жыл бұрын
All of their collabs are pretty fire.
@clydedavis36233 жыл бұрын
@@mattj4362 indeed
@Qballiz2kool3 жыл бұрын
Gotta be the weapon effectiveness is my guess.
@GarliccDread3 жыл бұрын
That's my guess too as I've been trying to use the most effective damage type for the monster part once I find out what it is. It seems to make a big damage difference but I'm still earlier in the game. I have a charm that boosts damage when you use the effective damage type too which is nice
@HelloGeneral3 жыл бұрын
At ~3:57 he says it's the same move on the same monster part, so there shouldn't be any variation on weapon effectiveness. I suspect they added an element of rng to the damage calc to simulate the inconsistency/timing difficulty of the greatsword in the mainline MH games.
@conorb.19013 жыл бұрын
Weapon effectiveness, while still a factor, isn't all that big of a damage decrease. I think the only thing where I've seen a drastic drop in damage from using the wrong damage type is Kulu's rock
@pinkyclaudie54503 жыл бұрын
@@conorb.1901 Not hitting Konchus with Blunt attacks is also a pretty big decrease, although not as huge as the rock
@conorb.19013 жыл бұрын
@@pinkyclaudie5450 yeah, it's possible that it could vary between monsters. I haven't seen damage drops from resisted damage that were as huge as Kulu's rock though. Mostly just a noticable but not gigantic drop
@aliciahoflack1383 жыл бұрын
Has this happened with every gs? Might be a diablos thing, normaly in the hunting games they have -30% crit. Could be a hidden thing as a nod to the main games.
@leonmagnusgamingchannel3 жыл бұрын
Nope in rise theres a gs that gives 35% crit rate.
@johnsantos5303 жыл бұрын
I just saw someone do almost 9k worth of damage with a hammer with the proper set up.
@phaserush94343 жыл бұрын
How i get the grimclaw layered 😍
@bkTM693 жыл бұрын
Kill grimclaw
@leonmagnusgamingchannel3 жыл бұрын
And make the armor then go to lulucion, theres 2 blacksmith there. One of em is the layred one.
@zash62773 жыл бұрын
Great sword deals big numbers indeed Lastly seen with Reverto He may be kinda a idiot But he is Strong
@Kasaaz3 жыл бұрын
Especially in post-game, it's amazing. Not only his damage, but because he doesn't have a monster himself, you get 2/3rds chance for the monster to target you or your monster for an easier Double.
@idonotmakevidsyet3 жыл бұрын
Im defs gonna get this build once I figure out end game.
@ZeroKurasaki13410 ай бұрын
I hit over 5900 with greatsword charged slash using merciless roar
@Kizumonogatarii3 жыл бұрын
What's the great sword he's using anyone?mm
@leonmagnusgamingchannel3 жыл бұрын
Its from bloodbath diablos
@thegreenranger47033 жыл бұрын
The Fatalis SnS is great. Super hard hitting.
@akirandrake4143 жыл бұрын
Me using Great sword since demo: uh huh. Took you long enough.
@deadicecold3 жыл бұрын
Can you guys do weapon guys for other weapons and best end games build. Yes I know it will take time no rush I appreciate the hard work you guys been doing for this game.
@ramigilneas92743 жыл бұрын
Oh, I got a +4 Furyslash talisman.😅
@kademarlowe14193 жыл бұрын
I filled all 9 slots on a Blue Yian Kut Ku, and it seems to naturally change its attack type, but I can no longer choose WHICH attack type it uses. Just curious if anyone else has had that happen lol
@macscheese39943 жыл бұрын
Why tho👀 is the blue yian kit ku supposed to be good?
@kademarlowe14193 жыл бұрын
@@macscheese3994 it's pretty good, I'm about mid level in the game and it holds up about as well as some of my best. Plus it's my strongest technical type at the moment. It's weird because it has skill genes but no skills 😂
@macscheese39943 жыл бұрын
@@kademarlowe1419 that's pretty crazy it's rock breaking overworks skill can be pretty good for getting chests too
@kademarlowe14193 жыл бұрын
@@macscheese3994 right, I've got a vine climber and a swimmer in my team just for the chests lol
@macscheese39943 жыл бұрын
@@kademarlowe1419 oof still have yet to find a vine climber I will try to get the royal tigrex today for a good one I can keep on my team and do dmg
@valerius97513 жыл бұрын
I'm noticing a trend of twosix trying to tell paradise something is good and not being believed 😔
@xbeazy16x3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using gs because it’s my favorite weapon in mh I tried sas for one fight and instantly switched back lol sas will boost your kinship faster thoe
@Perpyshi3 жыл бұрын
Im a little scared there nothing on my boy rajang like no one is talking about him
@kingdomsoul89683 жыл бұрын
So from what i get of a lot of comments is that the real game starts around endgame and everything leading to that is tutorial? XD
@Clavitz13 жыл бұрын
Shame there's no single target 2 charge block attack(s)
@Artameful3 жыл бұрын
Inb4 ultimate update that brings true charge that uses 3 blocks
@Clavitz13 жыл бұрын
@@Artameful I wouldn't mind that.
@phatasm243 жыл бұрын
I love my great swords frankly. Been using it in MH Rise (still @ a low level as i refuse to progress lol). Didn't see a need to change how i'm using it in MHS 2.
@bearic_o3 жыл бұрын
Wish you guys can make a more concise guide. You guys do great guides but it's kinda hard to understand/comprehend most of the time because of too much info plus there's your comments/opinions. It'd be nice if you also have short concise guides too. 😊