GREEK MYTHOLOGY: The Competition Between the Sirens and The Muses - Told by Hera

[@Pfasma5]

My wife overheard my listening and she commented on what amazing voice lightbringer has…..thank you for the wonderful tales!

[@llDarkPheonixll]

All time fave youtube channel and this is a perfect example why ❤❤❤

[@nicolebowman8509]

The love and/or wrath of a mother knows no bounds. Several individuals witnessed Persephone's abduction yet remained silent. All what the Olympians endured could have been avoided had someone said something. Humanity lived in a golden age of great harmony when Cronus ruled, I don't agree with him devouring his children but at least we never suffered when he sat on the throne.

[@orrointhewise87]

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[@Shidyk]

Man, the sirens really deserved better. Though it definitely taught Demeter a lesson

[@TraciPeteyforlife]

Honestly I don't think it taught her anything. She seems to have blocked it out.

[@firerocklaser6819]

​@@TraciPeteyforlifeI believe she was filled with shame after she was humiliated like that

[@kaleahcollins4567]

THEY ARE WRONG NOT HER . THEY TRICKED HER CHILD AND TOOK HER AWAY SO SHE DID AS A MOTHER WOULD. WE WILL DESTROY HEAVEN AND EARTH FOR OUR CHILDREN. Hera and Zeus are shit parents and it showed in their children

[@Butterflypegasus40]

Sirens should have asked to be beautified in their new forms.

[@trajanfidelis]

Thanks for another great video!

[@jamesprice6015]

The fear kinda bad for the sirens. All they wanted is to be nymphs once more but were denied.

[@brendaowens2466]

I agree! They had no chance against Hades. He is one of the major three gods.

[@jamesprice6015]

@@brendaowens2466 Dude, did you even watch the video?

[@Butterflypegasus40]

I hate that the sirens are always portrayed has villians.

[@baababerhadt3833]

​@@Butterflypegasus40the sirens are the female watchers

[@stax6092]

Heh, Epic Rap Battles of Mt. Olympus. XD You guys rock, incredible telling as always. Also, love that you added a Hera talking head.

[@PrimeRooster]

Fantastic!!! Another quality video...

[@Butterflypegasus40]

Hera looks so beautiful in this channel.

[@georgemcmeechan2284]

Excellent as always

[@namelytile6140]

What a "Very Sad" story!! Restoration must be given back in due time 🥹🥹🥹 These gods sound like very privileged, yet very irresponsible beings that sit in seats of power...kinda reminds me of the "NOW"

[@seeleunit2000]

That's the point. They are a bunch of entitled monsters.

[@konstantinapapaioannou4306]

The greek family of gods was a very dysfunctional family.

[@jennya9838]

What Zeus could have said to Demeter: "Our daughter is old enough to be married. Hades wants to marry her. I'm the king. It's happening." What Zeus did: " I'll help you kidnap her. I don't wanna deal with Demeter's anger. She'll have to accept it after it happens." Also Zeus: "Ok, Demeter, I understand that mistakes were made, but you can't just stop doing your job and let a bunch of humans die. They're not sacrificing anymore, and thats really affecting our bottom line. What do I need to do to make this ok?".

[@FutureMythology]

The sirens were horrified. They were deprived of their one and only desire to be nymphs.

[@Princesstrixiesparklels4life]

This one took my breath away. It was gorgeous a great job and keep up the good work.

[@Pfasma5]

What an amazing story and a different version from what I remember

[@chrisstorrer]

I am really impressed with the presenter and the visuals. Beautiful voice and wonderful story.

[@KharnDaLoyal]

Not every battle is a bloody one....at least until the end😂👹😂 Very beautiful work, you all are artìsts🤌

[@mikemanolo]

Another great story. This reaffirms how much of a master manipulator Hera is.

[@troygaspard6732]

Zeus advised Hades to abduct Persephone. Damn the double standard.

[@Songbird_Singz88]

Sooo Hades goes unpunished.. typical.. and with permission to take what didn't belong to him....

[@Not-Ap]

This is only one version of the story. In others Persephone wanted to be him but her mother wouldn't allow it or permit it. So they concocted the abduction as way to bypass her. This version is tied to the fact that she ate the pomegranate and must have known what that meant to make such a obvious error. This way she didn't need to ask her mother permission and looked like a helpless victim. Again, because later she was happy being married to Hades, so it does at least appear that it could have been an elaborate scheme.

[@eagleofceaser6140]

Hera is Queen of Olympus and don't you ever forget it.

[@gachatube5271]

The worst to ever exist

[@kaleahcollins4567]

Hera only bullies those she could . She aint that tough when it comes to Nyx though

[@mill2712]

That is a good number of immortals and basically every mortal though.

[@konstantinapapaioannou4306]

No one messes with Nyx. Zeus himself is afraid of her. She is the eternal darkness.

[@MiguelHernandez-gx1lj]

I always did wonder how the sirens got to where they were in the stores. I do feel bad for them tho.

[@zachariahmousa7652]

I am not one that loves seeing someone humiliated. But after what Demeter did to the gods and mankind, I have to say it felt oddly satisfying. Though I feel for the sirens. It is all too often that lesser creatures are abused by the gods. They are used as pawns and examples over events they lack any real agency or blame for. As always Sir Baldermort and Lady Lightbringer, it was a pleasure to listen to you both at work.

[@seeleunit2000]

Hey, blame Zeus for all that. He kick started Demeter losing her daughter and almost had both God and human alike end up starving because, he set-off Demeter

[@zachariahmousa7652]

​@@seeleunit2000 I will not blame Zeus. Demeter is a full-fledged adult and she chose to throw a god level temper tantrum killing millions of innocent people. She refused to relent, even if it meant everyone died. THAT was a conscious choice, and thus, Zeus is not to blame.

[@miguelfranciscosoares6745]

her daughter was taken advantage of, deceived and imprisoned. No god bat an eye or helped to look for her missing daughter. She only did she could do (sane or not). The gods only intervened when her actions caused them inconvenience? Everybody gangsta until sh hit the fan for them

[@zachariahmousa7652]

@@miguelfranciscosoares6745 In almost every interpretation, she was not taken unwillingly. She was married without consulting her mother. And in regards to helping her look for Persephone or show concern, she did not approach anyone for help. Demeter punished EVERYONE for the actions of just a few.

[@londonmason6129]

@@zachariahmousa7652Persephone did not marry hades by choice. He consulted Zeus, kidnapped her (Persephone cried out for her mother so she clearly wasn’t cool with being kidnapped) and Hermes later Persephone in the underworld, crying on hades bed/couch. Maybe their relationship got better, but she was not happy about it at first nor did it start off as consensual.

[@eugenebelford9087]

The queen muses about the sound of sirens. 😀

[@gachatube5271]

I wish Demeter made it 10x worse

[@haylebanks7494]

Could u create a video showing another of Demeter's daughters with poseidon the sister and opposite to persephone, Despoina and her horse brother

[@jejuanellison7581]

"The Sirens saw they could not win us, woo us with their facade of beauty" Not to mention the Immediate minded and shallow wishes of most human beings. Hearing this it is obvious to see how humans fall victim for sirens. Look what people do to attain so called societal standard "Happiness" and less than benevolent desires. celebrities are our greatest precedents.

[@Kilkennyspurs]

Thanks for this Lightbringer and Mr. B. Another excellent video, Hera showed Demeter why she was queen of the gods. As ever greetings from Kilkenny.

[@mtp3920]

Amazing!!! Now I see how Queen Hera is indeed the worthy queen of Olympus. She is very delicate in Demeter’s punishment.

[@Butterflypegasus40]

Hera is so regal in this feature.

[@kaykay8855]

Meh 😑 she could have done it without punishing the Sirens.

[@misterunserious7265]

"For we cannot threaten her now. It would be too obvious, to Calice, and would cause an uprising"

[@guyincognito1406]

So where does mime fit into all this? Iunno throw it in with erotic poetry. Haha

[@misterunserious7265]

"With every unanswered prayer for food, warmth, mercy. they lost their faith"

[@sarahgirlisit]

Never disappoint.

[@servit0r]

The narration was fantastic, I was really drawn inside the scenery thank you!

[@ancaryvan4811]

Some sirens decide migrating to east, part of them go further to currently know as India, till the birth of Siddhatra Gautama they follow under his teaching and be the Auspices known as Kalavinka. At the end, they depart to Sukhavati.

[@misterunserious7265]

"There is need for consequence...and it must be public"

[@BohdanKaiba]

Sometimes I feel that the Kardashians are the modern sirens of these tales of old. Lol

[@misterunserious7265]

"We must show them who is still in charge, who holds the power"

[@Tommiart]

Gods...amiright?! 🙄 Beautifully told.

[@katinkanicaese9966]

Please make more videos about the Greek gods, it's awesome!!!!!! I enjoyed all the videos about Greek Mythology, it's very well explained and also surprising for some different sides of the stories I thought to know appeared.

[@mykelengieza7057]

I didn't get a vid on your 40k channel last Friday so I was worried that infection was getting worse. Glad to see this from a couple days ago..hope all is well

[@misterunserious7265]

"Without sacrifice, we were not whole"

[@misterunserious7265]

"I looked over the mountains and it came to me"

[@misterunserious7265]

"And now the universe knows she has the power to do so..."

[@ApollonianShy18]

This story reminds me of that of death of Baldr inn Norse mythology in a way... ❤ similar messages ❤ love this

[@livingmythology1405]

Thank you for watching and enjoying the tales my friend! - Lightbringer

[@alundavies2002]

If I could buy stocks in a youtube channel this would be it. 1 year and you'll have a million subs

[@verminlady]

Who are the artists of the images in the video?

[@mill2712]

According to Lightbringer in one of her responses, it is AI.

[@coreylugauer2369]

A great tale of intrigue and power, showing how Hera is THE queen on Olympus! I think the whole point of this whole party and contest was Hera demonstrating the authority both she and Zeus commanded over the other gods, and subtly letting Demeter know not to trifle with them again. Hera practically dared Demeter to try and save her Sirens, and in front of the whole court, backed down from here, to everyone present that Zeus and Hera were the true power and authority among the Olympians.

[@johnchoi4473]

So can someone explain how the sirens losing that way was a power move by Hera? Honestly curious/trying to comprehend.

[@livingmythology1405]

Honestly it’s all in the politics Demeter had just displayed defiance of the rulers decision and shown great power. (With the winter brought to the world and refusal to stop when ordered) The sirens were her nymphs - her people - she is seen here unable, unwilling, to defend her own people against the rulers - Hera and Zeus The muses are also linked to Zeus and so are representative of him in this competition - as glory and pride would go to the winner/ whoever is their linked god. If the muses with - so do Zeus and Hera If the sirens win - Demeter would have won in a way also. But this showed that Demeter is not willing to challenge the rulers to save her people, and so cannot be seen as rival to Zeus if any god/goddess started a coup against him. The court / everyone knows now that Demeter will not defend you, she has bent to the will of Zeus and Hera at the end of this piece. It was a challenge - to see if Demeter would rise to defy the king again. However the original tale doesn’t state why - Pausanias, Description of Greece 9. 34. 3 (trans. Jones) (Greek travelogue C2nd A.D.) : "[At Koroneia (Coronea) in Boiotia] is a sanctuary of Hera . . . in her hands she carried the Seirenes (Sirens). For the story goes that the daughters of Akheloios (Achelous) were persuaded by Hera to compete with the Mousai (Muses) in singing. The Mousai won, plucked out the Seirenes' feathers and made crowns for themselves out of them." I hope this makes more sense now! - Lightbringer

[@johnchoi4473]

@@livingmythology1405 thank you for the explanation

[@stc6851]

Noice 👍

[@kaykay8855]

Funny enough Mycenaean Demeter or Persephone most likely filled the place of Head Goddess because the Mycenaeans put an emphasis on Underworld gods being the most important gods.

[@misterunserious7265]

"Zeus must show, unchallenging force"

[@gachatube5271]

I really want someone to challenge those two and win

[@livingmythology1405]

Wouldn't that be a tale to tell!! - Lightbringer

[@konstantinapapaioannou4306]

The fact that the muses were the sirens' own mothers is just so cruel. It makes the punishment infinitely more cruel and painful. The whole universe of olympian gods is one of cruelty, power thirst and heartlessness, all sugar coated with beauty and glamour. A system in place to prevent any rebellion against the ones in power, and all gods are complicit. Prometheus gave his prophecy that Zeus, though he was confident at that time, would one day be destroyed by a far more powerful offspring who will be a better fighter and have recourse to greater weapons. This would fulfill the curse of Chronus, Zeus's own deposed father. Well, didn't that prophecy kind of come true?

[@Livaiduis]

Fucking brilliant, Iightbringer !!!

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[@katinkanicaese9966]

What are the names of the sirens, because I hear like different names each time in this video?

[@aprilcovington4481]

Demeter was determined to find her daughter. She didnt know that hedes had her daughter

[@narusawa74]

My alord thank you for this other epic so just fully narrated 🙏 Fun fact I just realized after you video: Sirens are different from mermaids in the Mythology ?! And how far from the Harpies are those Sirens represented here? They do seem to uave a similar outlook through most Greek mythos and Epics. Alao "sirène" in French means mermaid....funny assimilation of voth languages. Or possibly the elder term was lost in the common knowledge of the plebs that could have composed the crews of ships at the time "mermaid" was coinned for the half fish ladies of the deep? Also mermaid seems to be from both French and English language. As mer" is the French word for the sea. Could be Interesting to research when sirene/ mermaid started to be used to adress the fish ladies while the name clearly belongs to the feathery transformed Nymphs.

[@Itsgonnabemayy]

I’ve been waiting to have some time to myself to watch this one as I’ve been taking care of my father. Damn! Demeter thinking she can do whatever she wants but Hera’s like ‘hold my ambrosia’

[@kaleahcollins4567]

Demeter is better mother then hera thats a fact

[@misterunserious7265]

"Feasts and festivals"

[@roguerodriguez8215]

Hera Queen of the gods and Goddess of scheming and power lol

[@offwheat9403]

if hera has not haters im dead.

[@capinchaos4367]

Comment for the YT Gods

[@jessicam3676]

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[@jjhbjhbhjgjhgfjhghjg]

The Narariin could be Fastee

[@keikairin2038]

This implies Demeter chose to make her women warriors to protect them from the men who would rape and steal them away. Was it punishment? OR empowerment? Did Athena not do the same thing with Medusa after Poseidon's unwanted advances? Perhaps Hera being coddled did not understand the strength of being able to take care of herself. Probably could have avoided the fight by just talking to her BEFORE shipping her daughter off. Even if her daughter was willing to go. But yeah you really make Hera sound awful. How would she like it if they shipped out Hebe or Ilithryia without talking to HER? Hurting Demeter's adopted daughters' for favoring her only daughter was very mean and unempathetic. I'm surprised supposedly sweet muses and their mothers would be so disrespectful to them. As a kindness I would have only taken ONE feather and called it enough. Hmm...contest was basically 'hopes for the future' vs 'platitudes and memories of the past'. If you are a peoples who want for nothing, then its hard to be 'reached' by one with hopes. If they're stroking your ego and you have huge amounts of pride you'd definitely be more interested in hearing your own accomplishments. I guess the muses just knew their crowd then. It was an easy victory for their experience.

[@ExelArts]

The olympains didnt need humans or there sacrifices to remain gods if that were true they would've never destroyed the original humans with the flood(yes a great flood is in this religion too) and wouldnt have made it to adulthood as gods when no human worshiped them are at that time expected

[@mississippimillionaire3790]

Wow, the author's of Greek Mythology REALLY don't like women do they??? Sheesh!! smh And why did they make Demeter look so old????

[@gachatube5271]

CD Greek gods are the worst

[@xaldinfash4203]

why did u make demeter look so old while hera hestia look young? they are all close in age..i dont get why demeter looks like a 80 yr old hag and shes supposed to be younger than hestia!

[@livingmythology1405]

Great point! Ai has challenges making faces older - for some reason whenever you put ‘woman’ it makes them young! Thank you for the reminder though - it can be tricky to get the perfect faces and sometimes I have to work with what I can But it is also simply a mistake on my part - I will be more vigilant in future! And do better if I can - I hope it didn’t break immersion too much my friend! - Lightbringer

[@xaldinfash4203]

@@livingmythology1405 thanks for the reply!! and great video as always

[@david-ts6hj]

Yeah but in the blink of an eye she could bring the gods to begging again couldn't she

[@Auron1Roxas2]

Another reminder of how terrible the greek gods were.