Green Lantern HBO Max - Jessica Cruz, Guy Gardner & Alan Scott Gay?

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Beyond The Trailer

Beyond The Trailer

3 жыл бұрын

Green Lantern HBO Max today! Beyond The Trailer's reaction & breakdown! Cast of Characters, plus hints Alan Scott will be LGBT? Upcoming DC TV!
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Green Lantern HBO Max today! Beyond The Trailer host Grace Randolph's reaction & breakdown of news about the upcoming DC TV series aka show! Cast of characters to include Jessica Cruz, Simon Baz, Guy Gardner, Kilowog, and Sinestro! Also hints that Alan Scott will be an LGBT aka gay character! Share your own reaction to HBO Max's Green Lantern show before you see each full episode! And be sure to make Beyond The Trailer your first stop for movie and entertainment news here on KZbin today!
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@Narukamiiii
@Narukamiiii 3 жыл бұрын
In my heart , im still waiting for a John and Hal buddy cop in space series
@kingdomcomesuperman3669
@kingdomcomesuperman3669 3 жыл бұрын
That or Guy and Kyle
@ciram9082
@ciram9082 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be totally down for an animated version of that, maybe coming off of the Harley Quinn animated universe.
@JohnDoe97637
@JohnDoe97637 3 жыл бұрын
That's what the movie is supposed to be.
@marcozolo3536
@marcozolo3536 3 жыл бұрын
You will have to wait how the Justice League HBO Max series does before knowing what they will do with those characters
@masterkl16
@masterkl16 3 жыл бұрын
THIS.
@theokchannel2081
@theokchannel2081 3 жыл бұрын
Hot take: Guy gardner was better as a Red lantern because it gave him more of a purpose in today's stories
@dailyplanet354
@dailyplanet354 3 жыл бұрын
They can introduce Red Lantern plotline in later seasons.
@chicostephenson
@chicostephenson 3 жыл бұрын
him becoming a red lantern was the best thing that ever happened to Guy Gardner.
@whylekat
@whylekat 3 жыл бұрын
Considering that's his most well know story arc ever I dont think it's that hot a take.
@abdo19code
@abdo19code 3 жыл бұрын
I loved that storyline. Good stuff. Guy Gardner definitely has a Red Lantern attitude
@solomonred4926
@solomonred4926 3 жыл бұрын
100% agree he was awesome as a red lantern. It made him so unique and interesting.
@ryan20xx70
@ryan20xx70 3 жыл бұрын
John Stewart was my favorite character in the animated Justice League show. The fact he hasn’t shown up in a movie is criminal.
@linedwell
@linedwell 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else watch Grace, even when she covers shows you're not interested in, because Grace is so awesome and watchable?
@jeromemckenzie7745
@jeromemckenzie7745 3 жыл бұрын
I do I just love listening to her for some reason even when she makes me upset lol
@marcozolo3536
@marcozolo3536 3 жыл бұрын
Ummm nope
@TheAutumnWind_RN4L
@TheAutumnWind_RN4L 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there's a little Joan Cusack in there.
@Cesarander
@Cesarander 3 жыл бұрын
Periodt 😌
@Delgen1951
@Delgen1951 3 жыл бұрын
No, and I am not watching this at all.
@DaneOLeary
@DaneOLeary 3 жыл бұрын
You touched on something I’ve been frustrated about for years: Why is Warner still allowing Johns to make sure that the DCEU is built almost entirely off the stories that he wrote himself? Luckily, it has worked out with a few of these movies (e.g. Shazam and Aquaman), but c’mon! DC has decades and decades of narratives. I have to assume the reason Johns pretty much only adapts his own work is either so he can claim more creative control and ownership over the DCEU, or so he gets a bigger payday. Or maybe both.
@jeromemckenzie7745
@jeromemckenzie7745 3 жыл бұрын
You and Grace are right but unfortunately his stories are the ones most wide spread.
@JTS616
@JTS616 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!
@AlecArtComics
@AlecArtComics 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair. Geoff Johns probably has the best green lantern story ever written. If we are going to let him use his stories for any of the characters, Green lantern is probably the only one that makes sense.
@liveanddieinchicagoliveand7074
@liveanddieinchicagoliveand7074 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlecArtComics Geoff johns really good comic writer this johns hate is ridiculous
@jeromemckenzie7745
@jeromemckenzie7745 3 жыл бұрын
@@liveanddieinchicagoliveand7074 he is good with comics but ruins everything else. That's what people are upset about
@Lawfair
@Lawfair 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the pre-New 52 Alan Scott had a son named Todd Rice who was also gay.
@yonataverse8071
@yonataverse8071 3 жыл бұрын
Obsidian. He was also in LoT
@Lawfair
@Lawfair 3 жыл бұрын
@@yonataverse8071 I am ashamed that it took me two hours to realize what LoT was. Yes I do remember him in those episodes.
@josephvalenzuela311
@josephvalenzuela311 3 жыл бұрын
Jade as well.
@DramaBricks
@DramaBricks 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you about Kyle Rainer, he is my favorite Green Lantern! And a more creative one to due to his profession as a Freelance Artist!
@kingdomcomesuperman3669
@kingdomcomesuperman3669 3 жыл бұрын
They definitely need to use him, he's my second favourite Green Lantern next to Hal
@kingdomcomesuperman3669
@kingdomcomesuperman3669 3 жыл бұрын
@Optimus Prime Johns is trash in the movies or as a writer?
@jamcalx
@jamcalx 3 жыл бұрын
Ill disagree on the Gun issue with Simon, as his initial ring was a glitchy copy when Hal and sinistro were trapped and sent in out as an SOS. Also, his story later became about letting go of the gun and truly trusting his potential with the ring, along with his concerns of whether he should have such power or if it was Allah's will as he has a talent for using use Willpower energy in ways never seen before or even though possible, like when Revived a family member from death.
@defrocker6792
@defrocker6792 3 жыл бұрын
....and why they put a tattoo on Simon. They know Muslims don't wear tattoos. Disrespectful
@defrocker6792
@defrocker6792 3 жыл бұрын
@JuniorX EastNY Just bcuz they have tattoos doesn't make it halal. There are Muslims that do a lot of things not permissible, it doesn't mean it's right.
@jamcalx
@jamcalx 3 жыл бұрын
@@defrocker6792 it was a manifestation for the ring. They even address this head on, as his father did object to it when he first got it. This was of course during Simon's more rebellious days of illegal street racing, showing him as imperfect as everyone else.
@KevinAccetta
@KevinAccetta 3 жыл бұрын
It's difficult. On one hand, you don't want to make it seem like the generic stereotype of "oh, he's this, of course he would use a gun", but on the other hand, it makes sense to try to make a realistic story. If it's a good story, then I think it gets a pass.
@defrocker6792
@defrocker6792 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinAccetta I think that is the weakest story to allow him to use a gun.
@jedangelobatalla6679
@jedangelobatalla6679 3 жыл бұрын
I am hoping that the GLC movie is still in their minds, maybe that's where they'll use Hal and John, hoping...
@packedentertainment2866
@packedentertainment2866 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully also Kyle Rayner! I love his character
@manuelrivera7101
@manuelrivera7101 3 жыл бұрын
Ngl i expect they want to test the success of the Snyder Cut bc Zack is including his version of the character. If the Snyder Cut/Hal or John is received well, then they would probably make them Cameo in the Green Lantern show AND give them some kind of task to do for a Movie by the end of the series.
@marcozolo3536
@marcozolo3536 3 жыл бұрын
@@manuelrivera7101 that makes sense
@jeromemckenzie7745
@jeromemckenzie7745 3 жыл бұрын
Grace I'm so happy that everyone is happy for Jessica Cruz.
@flashfire9825
@flashfire9825 3 жыл бұрын
after i read about her story in the justice league series i cant wait for her and simon baz
@jeromemckenzie7745
@jeromemckenzie7745 3 жыл бұрын
@@flashfire9825 me too. She is my favorite after John.
@93abc123
@93abc123 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Jessica Cruz is part LGBTQ+?
@jeromemckenzie7745
@jeromemckenzie7745 3 жыл бұрын
@Optimus PrimeFirst: She is not just hot. She has a compelling story about overcoming her anxiety. Second: don't rule Kyle out we might see him. Let's pray for it.
@kingdomcomesuperman3669
@kingdomcomesuperman3669 3 жыл бұрын
@Optimus Prime Guy Gardner hasn't been cool since the 80s? After he became a GL again he's been great, even when he was a Red Lantern
@renji90998
@renji90998 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a pretty big fan John Stewart, but understand why they aren't including him. Gives the other lanterns a time to shine. Wish Kyle got some love outside the comics. Also I believe Alan has two children, Jade and Obsidian. They could still be around. Either by surrogacy or adoption.
@BushidoBrownSama
@BushidoBrownSama 3 жыл бұрын
I can accept Jon Stewart not being on the show but they need to really do right by him in the movies
@vampirefrompluto9788
@vampirefrompluto9788 3 жыл бұрын
What you said at the end about creatives taking fan criticisms constructively & not just writing them off as "haters" or "wanting to run the show/comic/movie" is so true! I know so many people whose biggest problem with the Star Wars sequels was that the "diverse" characters were under used &/or given bad/weak material but they get thrown in with the Fandom Menace all the time. BEING CRITICAL OF SOMETHING DOES NOT MAKE YOU A HATER!
@adamandanna
@adamandanna 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I hated they wasted Finn. They had something with him. Hell they wasted Captain Phasma too. She looked cool as hell but did nothing with her. i would have taken her back over bringing back Palpatine. She is tall, too so she could really tower over her opponents. Poe was also wasted and I wished they had done a better job with Rose Tico. Even Rey needed better writing. Wasted potential
@Merdicano
@Merdicano 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamandanna Enormous wasted potential, say what you want about Force Awakens, but it was a legitimately good introduction of characters with potential to be huge in the latter installments, wasted potential indeed
@dakotatrue12
@dakotatrue12 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, but what is the fandom menace?
@adrian7465
@adrian7465 3 жыл бұрын
No one: Grace: Don't worry...we'll talk about it in a moment.
@mr.moviemafia
@mr.moviemafia 3 жыл бұрын
Djimon Hounsou is technically playing 2 characters in the DCEU, as both the Wizard in Shazam, and one of the fish people in Aquaman. This is to a MUCH lesser extent than Mark Strong, but it’s there
@eddiemac102
@eddiemac102 3 жыл бұрын
He's underused just like idris elba. How do you have talent like that and jerk them with minor roles.
@adamsbriee6330
@adamsbriee6330 3 жыл бұрын
And Gemma Chan is sersi in eternals and Minerva in Captain marvel. Sure it’s another studio and she was painted but it opens up a lot of holes if you cast an actor in the same universe for different roles.
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 3 жыл бұрын
and they're both dead
@David.Andrew
@David.Andrew 3 жыл бұрын
He's Two characters in the DCU, one character in the MCU, but under used in both!
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamsbriee6330 Captain Marvel and Eternals are from the same studio, aka Disney/MCU
@yourlittlebrotherGabrielReview
@yourlittlebrotherGabrielReview 3 жыл бұрын
WE WANT JOHN STEWART!
@maurreese
@maurreese 3 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY!!!💯
@RichardmpayiTnway
@RichardmpayiTnway 3 жыл бұрын
YES
@kingdomcomesuperman3669
@kingdomcomesuperman3669 3 жыл бұрын
Hal and Kyle as well
@ionicreviews
@ionicreviews 3 жыл бұрын
AGREED
@rumibaruah6352
@rumibaruah6352 3 жыл бұрын
Saved for the movie
@darknexus6720
@darknexus6720 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, this doesn't seem like the standard HBO level creative talent being used for this show?!
@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNicked
@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNicked 3 жыл бұрын
@@PeterParker-yo6gu He's clearly talking about the writers behind the show mate.
@orangeviktor
@orangeviktor 3 жыл бұрын
@@PeterParker-yo6gu When Dark Nexus says "creative talent", he's referring to the writers, producers and showrunner behind this Green Lantern show, not the actual Green Lantern characters themselves.
@Beatness121
@Beatness121 3 жыл бұрын
I don't mind using the "lesser" Green Lanterns in the show if that means we get to see Hal, John, and Kyle in a more high-budget project. But the really bad thing here is seeing those Grahame-smith and Guggenheim here, that really fills me with dread.
@7felipe14
@7felipe14 3 жыл бұрын
From what it's known for a while, both Hal and John are being saved for the GL movie (that will happen someday I guess). As for Kyle, sadly nobody knows. DC kind of forgets about the 90's characters these days.
@space1734
@space1734 3 жыл бұрын
If I'm not getting Hal Jordan and John Stewart I don't care, unless they announce they'll be used on the bigger screen.
@Revengenator
@Revengenator 3 жыл бұрын
I just want that one scene in Young Justice where Flash asks if Guy Gardener should be a leaguer and Hal and Jon just turn and say "NO".
@mr.moviemafia
@mr.moviemafia 3 жыл бұрын
Multiple Green Lanterns?! Hour-long episodes?! Stories spanning decades and galaxies?! I’m in! 💚💚💚💚 It’s already better than the film, but I’m cautiously optimistic
@gaylordcomic
@gaylordcomic 3 жыл бұрын
Is it bad if I still want Ryan Renolds to cameo?
@mk6rfc1
@mk6rfc1 3 жыл бұрын
depends on the budget
@chicostephenson
@chicostephenson 3 жыл бұрын
i think with this it is best to be cautiously optimistic. this sounds like the kind of thing that can go south real fast.
@mr.moviemafia
@mr.moviemafia 3 жыл бұрын
chicostephenson But could also be amazing if handled with care!
@Sehlat
@Sehlat 3 жыл бұрын
@@mk6rfc1 I agree. This sounds like it would have to be more expensive than any other TV or streaming series ever, even compared to Game of Thrones or The Mandalorian. There's certainly a reason why there has ever only once been one Green Lantern live action movie beyond the fact that it wasn't very popular.
@akeiltheseal
@akeiltheseal 3 жыл бұрын
the number of people saying "where is john stewart" in the comment section speaks volumes
@Griffex394
@Griffex394 3 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about how Alan Scott’s powers are different from the other lanterns?
@baileycasselman3540
@baileycasselman3540 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly its super frustrating to see characters who have previously shown attraction to women and then show attraction to men just get "changed" to gay instead of being portrayed as bisexual
@mdrivera8481
@mdrivera8481 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like we're watching a train filled with orphans speeding to a hospital, and there is a way to move it but we won't see if it happened until it reaches the last part of the tracks
@QuasarYGO
@QuasarYGO 3 жыл бұрын
Marc Guggenheim ruined Arrow. Also was behind the Green Lantern movie.
@adamandanna
@adamandanna 3 жыл бұрын
Yes this. He is horrible. He is the reason for that Olicity trash and fridging Laurel Lance. He absolutely sucks. He had an idea where Mary Jane Watson is raped and murdered it didn't happen but that shows the kind of trash he is. Smith is not as worrying to me as Guggenheim. I personally found Dark Shadows decent not great but felt it was similiar enough to the show is was referencing which itself was over the top. i have no problem with the characters being used(thought John Stewart and Hal Jordan are important to have. Hopefully they will be the Movie version or show up in Season 2 or something. As for the Alan Scott I have no problem if they make him gay. But with Guggenheim writing that will be his only character ability. Look at Mr. Terrific. who constantly had to tell you he was gay. If you want a well written LGBTQ+ character watch Schitts Creek. It is treated with respect and you actually want David's relationship to succeed and not because of his orientation but because they are both well rounded characters. Whoever did the character arc for Matt Bomer's Doom Patrol character was also well written. Gay characters are fine if they are treated as more then a Token character.
@robbiejay1646
@robbiejay1646 3 жыл бұрын
I literally won't watch anything he does after season 4 of Arrow.
@QuasarYGO
@QuasarYGO 3 жыл бұрын
Robbie Jay I often believe in second chances, but Marc got way too many chances. This was an auto red flag as a fan of Green Lantern comics and Comic book show critic.
@Pavankumar-wq2fp
@Pavankumar-wq2fp 3 жыл бұрын
His script was never used for the movie. It was a zack snyder like situation where execs butchered the show
@ebewelepraise531
@ebewelepraise531 3 жыл бұрын
I mean wasn't he there at the beginning? Would the show even have been good in the first place?
@poeticgangsta6616
@poeticgangsta6616 3 жыл бұрын
HBO/DC has an amazing track record of shows. Can't wait for Green Lantern and JL Dark!!
@juicytitan5501
@juicytitan5501 3 жыл бұрын
This is what I hate make a character gay even though they were never in the original comics
@GordBalle
@GordBalle 3 жыл бұрын
Guggenheim ran Arrow into the ground after it had 2 great seasons, he killed Black Canary in a Green Arrow show. The best thing that happened to the show was him leaving.
@groot7844
@groot7844 3 жыл бұрын
Is he the one that created Arrow seasons 3+4? If so, oh no... The biggest problems with these seasons are the Oliver and Felicity romance (so forced), and having a magical villain as the main villain of an Arrow season.
@kingdomcomesuperman3669
@kingdomcomesuperman3669 3 жыл бұрын
He did Arrow s03 and s04?! There goes any hype I had
@GordBalle
@GordBalle 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, he's the evil genius behind Felicity, Olicity and the master behind Black Canary character assassination
@M1keFoxxx
@M1keFoxxx 3 жыл бұрын
This. Guggenheim fucking sucks
@subashchandran7737
@subashchandran7737 3 жыл бұрын
Oh fuck he killed black canary😪😱😱
@kylerohan3841
@kylerohan3841 3 жыл бұрын
I think that Alan Scott could be redeemed if they don’t fridge his boyfriend like Kyle Rayner and get rid of the tokenism aspects. Everyone loves his daughter Jade and I think that it would be awesome if she was his adopted/surrogate daughter. However if they wanted to keep him straight I would make a gay lantern either a blue lantern or star sapphire since we all have hope for the future of lgbtq people. The star sapphire one is a little too on the nose and more fetishized. You could also do green bc of the will it takes to come out etc. but I think that they should be a blue lantern. Maybe if they went the villain route a yellow lantern?!? They have the power of fear and a lot of lgbtq people live with some amount of fear so it’s an option. Idk as a gay guy I think there are pros and cons
@ameerhaical
@ameerhaical 3 жыл бұрын
A cool idea if a trans became a star sapphire. Would really represent the lgbtq+.
@mav1634
@mav1634 3 жыл бұрын
@@ameerhaical RU being serious? Bcoz it sounds fukin ridiculous
@ameerhaical
@ameerhaical 3 жыл бұрын
@@mav1634 what i meant was a new character who's a trans tht became a violet lantern. But if you still dont like the trans idea then, its okay 😅😁
@kylerohan3841
@kylerohan3841 3 жыл бұрын
Aikah maybe if it wasn’t done in a lustful way. The thing with the star sapphires is that it always seems like it’s lust and not love. But that could be an interesting storyline as long as it isn’t stereotyped or fetishized
@mojennith6427
@mojennith6427 3 жыл бұрын
Alan Scott also has a son....obsidian who is gay himself....does everybody forget this?
@lawrencekin02
@lawrencekin02 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see Antony Starr as Guy Gardner... He's perfect to play Guy.
@fobudomh
@fobudomh 3 жыл бұрын
He should be Reverse Flash.
@tonyantonellis9983
@tonyantonellis9983 3 жыл бұрын
one huge problem with Alan Scott being gay is that he is meant to have a son and daughter who are also superheroes, his son is obsidian and his daughter is Jade
@carefacedeluxe
@carefacedeluxe 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like Alan Scott at all, but gay people can have children too you know?
@tonyantonellis9983
@tonyantonellis9983 3 жыл бұрын
@@carefacedeluxe but in the comics, are they genetically related or did he adopt them?
@a.f.watcher8898
@a.f.watcher8898 3 жыл бұрын
I was excited, until learning of the team’s “rap sheet” now I’m skeptical.
@AmericanKendoll
@AmericanKendoll 3 жыл бұрын
Why not John Stewart ? I loved him
@therandomhorse66
@therandomhorse66 3 жыл бұрын
He’ll be in the movie
@Wolfe2318
@Wolfe2318 3 жыл бұрын
Getting a movie
@AmericanKendoll
@AmericanKendoll 3 жыл бұрын
therandomhorse66 what movie ?
@AmericanKendoll
@AmericanKendoll 3 жыл бұрын
Superboy his own movie ?
@therandomhorse66
@therandomhorse66 3 жыл бұрын
American KenDoLL the green lantern movie
@abishaipaul2298
@abishaipaul2298 3 жыл бұрын
Grace: Nobody can write and direct the whole show. Mike Flanagan: Hold my hill house
@josephjohnson7701
@josephjohnson7701 3 жыл бұрын
When Grace starts off with “You knowwwww ...” ... it’s going to be a piping hot tea episode 😅
@MovieMadness23
@MovieMadness23 3 жыл бұрын
I mean considering that this is from Greg Berlanti is anyone really surprised that Marc Guggenheim is involved in this, I also still think that the Green Lantern movie is way too overhated i mean the movie wasn’t THAT bad the movie had its moments and I still think Ryan Reynolds was great as Hal Jordan.
@adamandanna
@adamandanna 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed its flawed but its not the worst superhero movie I have seen. Guggenheim is the master of OLLICITY so that is where the disgust for him comes from
@cyshadowx
@cyshadowx 3 жыл бұрын
Not over hated its just hated lol that movie was trash with or without the perfect cast Angela Basset was cast in the perfect role as Amanda Whaller but the idiot who wrote the script and the fool who ruined it wont say his name along with money crunchers made a mess of a movie that had more to offer
@MovieMadness23
@MovieMadness23 3 жыл бұрын
cyshadowx of course you’re going to say the movies not overhated, since it’s obvious you hated the movie yourself I still stand by my opinion that it’s not that bad of a movie
@Marvee78
@Marvee78 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like a classic case of failing upwards and having powerful friends in high places🤨
@unluckysoul1371
@unluckysoul1371 3 жыл бұрын
They just need the Green Lantern: The Animated Series Team to run everything. This feels like a J. K. Rowling stunt. They are just going to Batwoman this show if they are not careful.
@knotts4243
@knotts4243 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh, Batwoman was a good show unlike the green Lantern animated series which was trash
@anakinc.6024
@anakinc.6024 3 жыл бұрын
Knottsfar yeah, that’s why their ratings were complete trash. Batwoman was awful 🤦‍♂️
@danielopeoluwa9946
@danielopeoluwa9946 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad there's such a thing as to "batwoman" something. That show deserves it. It was soooooo awful
@knotts4243
@knotts4243 3 жыл бұрын
@@anakinc.6024 I don't care about the ratings I just said the show was good
@anakinc.6024
@anakinc.6024 3 жыл бұрын
Knottsfar but it isn’t good, that’s the problem. You’re not going to convince anyone that horrible writing is any good. That’s why I brought up the ratings. People know trash when they see it
@3iccan
@3iccan 3 жыл бұрын
If Josh Brolin can play both Thanos and Cable, Mark Strong can do the same with Sinestro and Doctor Sivana.
@lizc6645
@lizc6645 3 жыл бұрын
No John Stewart, what the ever loving Hell?!! He's my favorite Green Lantern damn it😡
@kvaknanhere2250
@kvaknanhere2250 3 жыл бұрын
Probably kept him for movies
@nyikomaswanganyi5983
@nyikomaswanganyi5983 3 жыл бұрын
No Hal either. Which is insane. My tow favorite Lanterns are not in it.
@knotts4243
@knotts4243 3 жыл бұрын
They will both be in the green Lantern movie
@williamhollaway1960
@williamhollaway1960 3 жыл бұрын
Movies
@brandonbaerga4972
@brandonbaerga4972 3 жыл бұрын
I hate when the main thing that focus on is oh he’s gay like I’m gay I don’t even care I want to know his flaws his development tell why I should see myself in this character not oh look he’s gays checklist
@Givemepeacealone
@Givemepeacealone 3 жыл бұрын
Jake Birch thats strange since straight people need that
@soccrplayr232
@soccrplayr232 3 жыл бұрын
@KEENG LOUIE you could definitely say you hate the way CW portrays jews, saying you hate the way CW portrays "the jews" would be different. Adding the "the" kinda changes the tone and they didnt use "the gays" they just said gays. Sure probably more polite to add people on the end of all of them but its not a different standard.
@Givemepeacealone
@Givemepeacealone 3 жыл бұрын
Jake Birch no I’m talking about how SOME I should say, straight people get upset when a character is gay
@Givemepeacealone
@Givemepeacealone 3 жыл бұрын
Jake Birch I literally said not all
@knotts4243
@knotts4243 3 жыл бұрын
@Dar G Nobody gives a damn about your gay friend
@JHolt_88
@JHolt_88 3 жыл бұрын
"Go on his wanted career ruining peoples projects." You gotta have more clarity and facts to make such a statement, grace. Comics or just television?
@ishanprakash3967
@ishanprakash3967 3 жыл бұрын
I hope Jon Stewart & Hal Jordan Lanterns Should be in Movie..
@Skeezer66
@Skeezer66 3 жыл бұрын
The thing about Alan Scott is, his son is gay, and was always gay! He has his own powers, but you could have the son take up his dad's ring as a legacy character. So simple!!!
@GamingandFrightened
@GamingandFrightened 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a total unnecessary change.
@Skeezer66
@Skeezer66 3 жыл бұрын
@@GamingandFrightened It's a diversity change, which I get, but if you wanted that, go with Hal and John! Not to mention literally thousands of other GLs in the Corp to choose from/make up. It's kind of lazy.
@neutralman9124
@neutralman9124 3 жыл бұрын
Fans controlling what is made and who makes it is such a terrible idea.
@Temudgin32
@Temudgin32 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to see John Stewart in a movie or show. It is very disappointing as well that who ever is making decisions at WB seems completely ignorant of what the greater population thinks about characters or the people they have creating these shows/movies.
@knotts4243
@knotts4243 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh, they always give the side characters the TV shows while the main people like. John Stewart and Hal Jordan will appear in the movies
@williamhollaway1960
@williamhollaway1960 3 жыл бұрын
Movie
@larryjones6022
@larryjones6022 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite had been Alan Scott for the last 60 years, so I'm hoping I can still be a fan.
@thatKONNORguy
@thatKONNORguy 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair the Geoff Jones comics he’s been pushing (Aquaman, Shazam, Green Lantern) have all been praised/definitive runs on those characters.
@gra9
@gra9 3 жыл бұрын
They where used the the recent movies as well except green lantern
@paulwong8046
@paulwong8046 3 жыл бұрын
There so many complicity when it comes to DC... how is the multiverse going to work throughout the shows/movies. I think they chose Alan Scott to be gay because of the arc in Stargirl since its in the CW domain. And we all know CWs main message is diversity. And I'm so surprised no talk on CWs Arrow character John Diggle isn't part of the Green Lantern cast. Wouldn't that draw ready made fans to the show? Like I said... theres so many ways to go when it comes to DC.
@RambleMaven
@RambleMaven 3 жыл бұрын
They doin everything but giving us John Steward.
@yourlittlebrotherGabrielReview
@yourlittlebrotherGabrielReview 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Their arguably most prominent GL to date.
@kingdomcomesuperman3669
@kingdomcomesuperman3669 3 жыл бұрын
And Kyle
@kingdomcomesuperman3669
@kingdomcomesuperman3669 3 жыл бұрын
@@yourlittlebrotherGabrielReview most prominent in JLU yes but not in the comics
@o.w.140
@o.w.140 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingdomcomesuperman3669 these people in the comment section don’t know comics, don’t be fooled.
@megafan1906
@megafan1906 3 жыл бұрын
Movies. WOW what can we do with those characters 🤔
@rlj151
@rlj151 3 жыл бұрын
They need to include a scene where Batman knocks Guy out with one punch like it happened in Justice League International back in the 80's. But if Alan Scott is gay and that prevents Jade from showing up, forget it. Make it Guy, will be more interesting.
@carefacedeluxe
@carefacedeluxe 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, that would be really interesting
@CruderQuotient1
@CruderQuotient1 3 жыл бұрын
Alan Scott being gay doesn’t work. He had kids who inherited his power (so no adoption). I know they tried to do it in the Earth 2 reboot but that didn’t stick
@CruderQuotient1
@CruderQuotient1 3 жыл бұрын
@Ryan Stewart . You were bothered to comment. Im guessing you just don’t have an argument
@ryno1509
@ryno1509 3 жыл бұрын
So gay men didn’t get married and have kids in the 40s and 50s ? 🙄
@CruderQuotient1
@CruderQuotient1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryno1509 Some probably did, but that's no reason to turn Alan Scott gay. It especially doesn't work when one of Scott's main storylines is that he falls in love with a female super villain called Thorn and have two kids together. That hardly seems like he was faking it. Luckily for you, if you NEED a gay character, they can introduce his son Obsidian (who's happens to be gay) to fit your quota. They can even do a story where Scott needs to put aside his upbringing in the 30's-40's and accept his son for who he is. This is the problem with all you people who don't read comics. You demand representation and force it where it doesn't belong, when there are already "diverse" characters being neglected and waiting to be used.
@ryno1509
@ryno1509 3 жыл бұрын
CruderQuotient1 they haven’t turned him gay the comics did that a long time ago
@changjoe01
@changjoe01 3 жыл бұрын
Selective representation is just warmed over discrimination.
@manart6506
@manart6506 3 жыл бұрын
I hope for more DC superhero TV like Watchmen or Swampthing and less CW dramas.
@phillyman2837
@phillyman2837 3 жыл бұрын
Guy Gardener is a *minority*. He's a redhead.
@grandmastercadillac9052
@grandmastercadillac9052 3 жыл бұрын
Redhead are going extinct in Hollywood
@S.T_the_Trini
@S.T_the_Trini 3 жыл бұрын
We all know he's going to be played my a black actor.
@Merdicano
@Merdicano 3 жыл бұрын
@@S.T_the_Trini There goes my interest I guess
@killernyancat8193
@killernyancat8193 3 жыл бұрын
@@S.T_the_Trini Really?
@noahhenson1669
@noahhenson1669 3 жыл бұрын
The admonition to heed fans' advice at the end there was superbly worded and delivered. Thank you, Grace, for speaking your mind and championing the fanbase!
@mo6live
@mo6live 3 жыл бұрын
Does wb not want dc too succeed cause I’m still trying to recover after they blinked for scared and ruined the dceu, smh 🤦🏾‍♂️
@adrian7465
@adrian7465 3 жыл бұрын
Basically DC: It is what it is. Take it or leave it.
@jaspinderjassal
@jaspinderjassal 3 жыл бұрын
I love the way she put her twitter handle in GREEN
@chubbyteddymonsterproducti1320
@chubbyteddymonsterproducti1320 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with ALL of your criticism Grace! Geoff Johns is not the be all, end all of Green Lantern. That guy really needs to be jettisoned from DC.
@Qthetar
@Qthetar 3 жыл бұрын
Geoff Johns is literally the greatest green lantern writer of all time, 90% of GL lore is all created by GJ. You need to STFU and know your place.
@HassanLuv78
@HassanLuv78 3 жыл бұрын
Is there anyone in WB leadership that are true comics fan?
@rayel7919
@rayel7919 3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a train waiting to fly off the tracks. Having The CW creative team behind this makes it a hard enough sell for me as it is, since I'm dropping all their shows after the last season for being absolutely terrible. It makes me so sad that we're finally getting superhero content in droves, but the quality of the creative teams behind most of them just isn't capable of doing them justice.
@RichardBarclay
@RichardBarclay 3 жыл бұрын
I think Strong can be Sivana and Sinestro, he's an alien under a lot of makeup in one character. Look at Marvel, with Gemma Chan playing 2 characters.
@CMak-gj4hm
@CMak-gj4hm 3 жыл бұрын
The Wizard Shazam and the Fisherman King are also the same person
@geraldstevens7781
@geraldstevens7781 3 жыл бұрын
If I ran WBs Grace, I'd offer you the job of Common Sense Test facilitator based on this video alone. With so much at stake financially, how do they not attempt to consider the opinions of their target market? Its the disappointment of having the long held hopes of comic fans dashed and see their much loved characters disrespected by suits that don't realize what makes the profit potential of these properties so promising in the first place that could push audiences to that Superhero breaking point you've mentioned before, at least for hard core fans that know better. Love your insight Grace, you're the best.
@user-cj5tv2eq5g
@user-cj5tv2eq5g 3 жыл бұрын
I hope at the very least John and Hal are mentioned or alluded to
@GilbyMinaj
@GilbyMinaj 3 жыл бұрын
Jessica Cruz I’m excited 😍 🇲🇽 🤘
@TheRManProds
@TheRManProds 3 жыл бұрын
GLAD THAT WE'RE GETTING A GREEN LANTERN SHOW! HAL AND JOHN WILL BE SAVED FOR THE GLC MOVIE!
@kerry53421
@kerry53421 3 жыл бұрын
Green Lantern can be such a great series of movies or just a series in general. So much lore and material to play around with in terms of the different color of lanterns. It just needs to be executed on screen well
@chloemiller2483
@chloemiller2483 3 жыл бұрын
No not Guggenheim!!! He ruined green arrow, killed black canary, forced his own OC as the main love interest... why is he still working????
@ajwalker4416
@ajwalker4416 3 жыл бұрын
The Lanter Corps are my favorite characters in the DCU so this show doesn't make me look forward to seeing them even on the smaller screen. In my view, John Stewart, Hal Jordan, and Kyle Raynor are the glue that holds all the Lanterns together. Even though my favorite Lantern is Saint Walker, a show without Stewart, Jordan, and Raynor just doesn't seem right.
@kabelo2
@kabelo2 3 жыл бұрын
Being a gay superhero in the 40’s means that the romance would be more of a closeted/undertones of homosexuality than actual developed storyline. Especially in this comic-bros universe we’re in.
@kendrickstarr7232
@kendrickstarr7232 3 жыл бұрын
Grace no one gives us the inside info like you. Another awesome vid
@x-menlol1613
@x-menlol1613 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if they introduce Teen Lantern in this show, that would be weird.
@welch_inc6532
@welch_inc6532 3 жыл бұрын
With Bendis being sidelined, all those characters he created are too. With the exception of Jinny Hex, who was meant to be getting a mini but that was part of 5G so is probably also dumped
@darylifillifill1677
@darylifillifill1677 3 жыл бұрын
I would love that
@mholg3825
@mholg3825 3 жыл бұрын
The show I was most excited for is now the show I am least excited for.
@brentmaxey20100
@brentmaxey20100 3 жыл бұрын
Grace brought out the star shirt for a Green Lantern video👍🏼👍🏼
@karolokoede9484
@karolokoede9484 3 жыл бұрын
CAUGHT U AT NEW YORK COMIC CON........LOVED UR SHIRT....IT WAS FIRE......ALL THE WAY FROM CANADA...ORDERED IT
@visionflare994
@visionflare994 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Green Lantern show might be headed for a train wreck. I really hope not.
@danielhislop3051
@danielhislop3051 3 жыл бұрын
Warner Brothers keeps giving me reasons NOT to subscribe to HBOMax, rather than reasons to subscribe.
@packedentertainment2866
@packedentertainment2866 3 жыл бұрын
Reasons 1. DC 2. Rick & Morty 3. Nostalgia For Old Cartoon Network Shows Honorable Mention: Big Bang Theory
@GINGI9519
@GINGI9519 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid I hope they set up for the other cores
@bobmathis-friedman6742
@bobmathis-friedman6742 3 жыл бұрын
In the Green Lantern 80th Anniversary Special in the comics, Alan was gay, so it transfers; in the concept of introducing "a new character", I's suggest Terry, who was not only a GLAAD Media Award winning character, but was - at least briefly - a Lantern....you could easily extend it.
@Pauly93
@Pauly93 3 жыл бұрын
I was a senior in high school and still closeted when Earth 2 New 52 came out in 2011. When I saw that Alan Scott was changed to be gay that was a big moment for me. There weren't a lot of LGBT characters at the time. I saw his story as a tragic and really resonated with me as a gay person. I'd love to see this version of Alan Scott continue
@BeyondTheTrailer
@BeyondTheTrailer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing that, I'll keep in mind as I continue to cover Alan Scott.
@mishoa1
@mishoa1 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t a good change, all it did was take focus away from his already gay son who been there for years
@ryno1509
@ryno1509 3 жыл бұрын
I agree as a gay kid having a gay green lantern was huge
@Pauly93
@Pauly93 3 жыл бұрын
@@mishoa1 Older gay men have had families and some men not being out themselves also have had gay children. There are stories to be told with many different perspectives. I'm sure at the time it took the spotlight but it was because it was an alternate universe version of the Alan Scott character. There are so many ways you can retcon the story now.
@ryno1509
@ryno1509 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry after StarGirl I trust Geoff Johns
@rokkkrinn2793
@rokkkrinn2793 3 жыл бұрын
Star Girl was really good. I'm sad to see it moving to the CW, though.
@stevenkralljr987
@stevenkralljr987 3 жыл бұрын
Another freakin’ amazing video of comic book movie coverage from Grace!!
@solofox9426
@solofox9426 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Grace, you are my favorite movie industry news persona! Hey by any chance is there any news on the Halo show? I'm sure when there is you will have the scoop but I just wanted to put my interest out there in the ether. Thanks
@LuJo-se4dc
@LuJo-se4dc 3 жыл бұрын
Marc Guggenheim is the WORST
@cryingcanary1131
@cryingcanary1131 3 жыл бұрын
I hate that Marc Guggenheim is part of this. The way he handled things in the arrowverse were terrible.
@ThePrice265
@ThePrice265 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@richardturner4074
@richardturner4074 3 жыл бұрын
Damn Grace. I was over the moon when I heard about this. You just threw a wet blanket over my enthusiasm. 😔
@toxicsnails
@toxicsnails 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I saw the thumbnail and had such a visceral reaction seeing Seth Grahame-Smith’s name attached to Green Lantern. It was hilarious clicking the video and hearing Grace articulate those feelings.
@biblefloss
@biblefloss 3 жыл бұрын
Damn! Why not Kyle. What the hell!
@UndeadNerdT800
@UndeadNerdT800 3 жыл бұрын
4:31 I didn’t know Greg was gay interesting
@insanulhoqueaurka6241
@insanulhoqueaurka6241 3 жыл бұрын
Geoff Jones's comics are the best representations for the characters thats the reason WB and DC are using those. I mean come on that guy wrote "Blackest Night", " Flashpoint" and "The Button (the Watchmen DC Crossover" only to name a few.
@josephvalenzuela311
@josephvalenzuela311 3 жыл бұрын
Justice Society Of America as well.
@Iamnoone989
@Iamnoone989 3 жыл бұрын
This is honestly really upsetting I hope this show does really good bc I personally feel like the lantern family is super under rated
@snazzey14
@snazzey14 3 жыл бұрын
GIVE ME JOHN STEWART!
@knotts4243
@knotts4243 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh, they always give the side characters the TV shows while the main people like. John Stewart and Hal Jordan will appear in the movies
@snazzey14
@snazzey14 3 жыл бұрын
Knottsfar then i I actually want to see him in a movie they tried Al Jordan and it didn’t work I’ll bust out John
@knotts4243
@knotts4243 3 жыл бұрын
Well he has to like you can't have a Green Lantern movie without John or Hal. But again you can have a TV series without them a that TV series can be dedicated to the side characters
@ThePUERTOHN
@ThePUERTOHN 3 жыл бұрын
Why all hispanic characters in all media (or at least the "cool" ones) are always either mexican o puerto rican? There are soo many other hispanic countries with different cultures and traditions you could use.
@creamypurple
@creamypurple 3 жыл бұрын
Cobra Kai in Netflix is excellent. I won't spoil the country of origin in case you haven't seen it. I'm not disagreeing, just offering what I know.
@mjwilliams5496
@mjwilliams5496 3 жыл бұрын
Jessica is half Honduran-half Mexican
@ThePUERTOHN
@ThePUERTOHN 3 жыл бұрын
@National Socialism is the answer Hispanic means spanish speaking...meaning Spain and Latin America (not Brazil), Latino refers to the geographical location....so if they speak spanish, they are hispanic...Mexicans and Puerto Ricans do speak spanish.
@ThePUERTOHN
@ThePUERTOHN 3 жыл бұрын
@@mjwilliams5496 Really? Ok, that's cool...hopefully she doesn't go around saying andale or eating tortillas all the time
@skyp1996
@skyp1996 3 жыл бұрын
I think that a Green Lantern TV series for HBO MAX, with Damon Lindelof as the showrunner & producer, and Allan Heinberg as the screenwriter, with Eiza Gonzalez as JESSICA CRUZ, Marwen Kenzari as SIMON BAZ, Alan Tudyk as ALAN SCOTT, & Luke Evans as SINESTRO, would be more interesting, than, what is coming now, but, IDK? We will see. As far as a film goes, I still strongly behind a Christopher Nolan directed/Aaron Sorkin scripted Lethal Weapon meets 2001: A Space Odyssey styled thriller, with Cillian Murphy as HAL JORDAN, John David Washington as JOHN STEWART, Alison Brie as CAROL FARRIS, & Mena Massoud as KYLE REYNER. Or an Edgar Wright directed/Karyn Kusama scripted dramatic psychological horror space adventure film, with Bradley Cooper as HAL JORDAN, Michael B. Jordan as JOHN STEWART, Betty Gilpin as CAROL FARRIS, & Zac Efron as KYLE REYNER. But, that's obviously NOT EVER going to happen. 🤔🧐
@Merdicano
@Merdicano 3 жыл бұрын
6:25 you are really outmost correct about that part Grace, and its even horrible the fact that they did it.
@gloriousg
@gloriousg 3 жыл бұрын
Very early! Can we have some proper Hal Jordan already😯
@kingdomcomesuperman3669
@kingdomcomesuperman3669 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently he's being saved for the movie I heard
@gloriousg
@gloriousg 3 жыл бұрын
Kingdom Come Superman well then if that’s the case they better do it properly this time
@ultramage1
@ultramage1 3 жыл бұрын
grace, there is a lot more to why Simon baz carries a gun, the rebirth run with him in it made it work just like they did with Jessica. i think if Geoff johns is kept out of the decision-making process, the creative team can find a story that works for them. they might get a lot of backlash based on guy Gardner though, he sounds easy but it's very hard to write the nuance into his character that a comic book mind bubble would show..bottom line, the writing team doesn't seem strong enough
@rmannayr2129
@rmannayr2129 3 жыл бұрын
HAL AND JOHN ARE BEING SAVED FOR THE MOVIE!
@md.zahidulislam9067
@md.zahidulislam9067 3 жыл бұрын
as long as this series is on HBO MAX, I have faith on it. If it was for CW, I wouldn't watch it.
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