Green Russian vs Ram's Head Big Muff for David Gilmour Tones! (No Talking)

[@mustyguitar]

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[@mustyguitar]

Ram's Head has more gain, hence it's a little more noisy. It's crispier and louder actually, and it screams nice. Green Russian has more mids and it has little or no noise. It's warmer, great for almost all tones!

[@mobydick3895]

Does a Gilmour board actually have to have two versions of the Muff? Just like having multiple compressors, it seems like having two wristwatches on is virtually the same thing, it merely provides a new opportunity for confusion and the audience won't know the difference anyway.

[@efstathioszavvos4878]

@@mobydick3895 No, you don't need both of them. I've got a ram's head and it's fine. Depending on your other pedals the ram's head may be all you need. E.g. if you've got a boost with full EQ afterwards, like the wampler tumnus deluxe or even a Boss GE-7, you can get the ram's head to sound like the other muffs by fiddling with the compression ratio and attack/release of the compressor and the EQ. The Green one is the easiest to work with by far, but its shortcoming is that the attack is softer and therefore you can't make it sound bity like the ram's head no matter what you do. But for a budget board with a limited selection of other pedals I would go for the green one actually. You can pair it with a BD-2 or something and it sounds great without much effort. There's also the Deluxe Big Muff Pi which has a lot of controls and is super versatile.

[@elflakeador09]

That comfortably numb solo is spine tingling stuff

[@irazida]

The best tutorial I have ever seen about these famous Big Muff. Thanks to you, I chose Russian because I've always preferred the live approach to Gilmour's warmer sound.

[@ummagumma7826]

Jeez dude you play really well. The Animals soloing was great

[@ChickenMeister84]

No talking review with David Gilmour tones. Fuck it. Subbed.

[@crowofjudgement6559]

Absolutely love your playing and tones! Officially subscribed. Keep it up 🎸🔥

[@mustyguitar]

Thank you!

[@andredegiant3876]

The bottom line is you can't give wrong with either and you can have both for about the same price as most clones. Of the 4 reissues, these are my favorites

[@thebreakfastmenu]

As a fellow Gilmour aficionado, I gotta say, the Sovtek Big Muff Deluxe is the best Big Muff for Gilmour, because it has a controllable mid boost and a noise gate and a wicker. I'm surprised more Gilmour fans haven't latched onto them. Having said that, this video has almost convinced me to get a Rams Head.

[@mustyguitar]

you may be right, i haven't tried it cause i don't like noise gate, it lacks dynamics in my opinion and lowers the feeling in my hands. and it's a big pedal, hard to find piece in the board. with that said, i'll try to use it, cause mid boost might actually be useful for PULSE tones for most people. and to be fair, Mr. Gilmour actually used sovtek on his 1994 tour.

[@thebreakfastmenu]

@@mustyguitar Oh don’t worry, you don’t have to use the noise gate. If you want, you can forego any of the extra features and at the core is a good old Russian muff.

[@junoschannel5855]

@@mustyguitar You may experiment Boss NS-2 with Monte Allums mod. It's great and not kill dynamics or sustain. I have the Green Russian version and I love it. Great channel, great play man!

[@mattgilbert7347]

I love both the Sovtek and regular Deluxe Big Muffs. Totally underrated.

[@gregorykapanowski9540]

The problem is everyone is missing the fact that even Gilmour boosted his green muff to get his tone.

[@ShaneStoneOfficial]

What did he boost it with? Would a ds1 into the green Russian sound good?

[@gregorykapanowski9540]

@ he used to boost it with a rat.

[@gregorykapanowski9540]

@ I use my rat in front of the green muff and it makes it sing like a violin. You can experiment with things. The key is you will have to make adjustments on both pedals to get the sweet spot, but more so on the distortion pedal before the muff.

[@ShaneStoneOfficial]

@@gregorykapanowski9540 thanks for the advice. I'll try it out

[@bimguff]

Both sound great. The rams head is a tiny bit more authentic to Gilmore's tone.

[@chrisvsmusicny]

Great playing and great tones! 🤘

[@SAMMYKO1]

Superb Mustafa!

[@EddieZep]

Ho avuto per qualche giorno entrambi...provato e riprovato alla fine ho preso tutti e due

[@chickimac1]

That Laney cub amp kicks ass!

[@Alfgunnarp]

Dayum, GREAT playing!

[@dmitriyakupov]

Thank you so much! Awesome video and playing! You are great!

[@tagadabrothersband]

I have a Ram's Head, purchased without having tested other models, and I was thinking of replacing it with a Green Russian after listening to a few demos. Thanks to your comparison video, I realize that the difference isn't that big, it's quite similar and it will not fundamentally change my sound. I have to say that I'm not especially trying to sound like David Gilmour, the music I play is more grungy. So thank you very much for this video, I'll probably save some money by watching it.

[@272needler]

I actually left the video playing in the background while I was at another page, and the first 1 and half minutes I thought he was playing only on the Green Russian. Only realized he was playing both in between after I played back. 😅😅

[@uttherkunst3806]

Yep, they sound identical to my aged ears through my crap headphones.

[@jdl2962]

Thank you for this comparison 🙏

[@leandrosouza8720]

Que timbre maravilhoso!🤘😎

[@mattgilbert7347]

Time: GR Pigs : RH (by a hair) Turning Away (split decision : 1st part GR 2nd part RH) C. Numb : RH all the way!

[@wayne5354]

I have the green. Now I want a ram’s head too because of you.

[@mustyguitar]

don't rush, I'll update this video in a few weeks with a lot more sound and a lot more information, maybe you don't need it after all!

[@wayne5354]

Great to know it! Thx for the effort making such useful and enjoyable videos!

[@jakepark7837]

Great comparison! I wanted to build my first pedalboard. I bought an isolated power supply and everything and I have a delay and phaser pedal. I wanted to get a big muff pedal too. I like the sound of the Rams head more and I prefer to get studio tones which you said it is better for. But I see in the comments you are also saying that it makes a lot of noise. Which pedal do you recommend I get? I have an isolated power supply so maybe it being loud isn't an issue if that's what you mean but yeah not sure which to get. Thanks, great videos!

[@mustyguitar]

It’s noisier of course, if I were to get one and only one, I’d get rams head because I think, and this is only my thought, I can have more harmonics and gain on single coils and emgs. That being said, you should play both in the store if you have the chance and decide for yourself

[@jakepark7837]

@@mustyguitar Thanks I appreciate the response. I will see if I my local shop has the pedals to try them out. I'm very new to guitar and your channel is a gold mine for me. As soon as I get these pedals I'm definitely joining the patreon.

[@ponzo9296]

What amp did you use...btw great playing ❤

[@tkmclaughlin]

Freaking awesome. I like the ram’s head but I imagine everyone goes for what they like best.

[@eliottboussemart867]

Nice playing, nailed it ! I have a little question, for you which one is the best for Gilmour tone, if you could choose only one of these two ?

[@mustyguitar]

i would go with green russian, because it's less noisy and it's better for live tones which i prefer. there is not THAT much difference between them anyways :)

[@eliottboussemart867]

Thanks ! I’ll take the Russian !

[@veryhappy2681]

Sold on you ! Subscribed today!

[@JTB--]

I'm curious what that band is on your right hand? Does that help with you with your picking?

[@stefanoferretti2504]

playing good it helps a lot itself

[@thedonal]

Loving your playing and demos. Thinking of replacing my big 2000 reissue Muff Pi with a Ram's head- partly as it's smaller and for the Gilmour thing, of course! I find the Pi a bit 'crackly' sometimes and really woolly on the neck pickup- I like that for some things, but not everything.

[@mustyguitar]

thank you!

[@jamespitoola1954]

What pick ups are those?

[@David_Barrett]

Which one? Ram’s o Green?

[@onemorething100]

Fantastico!!!!

[@MrDaigoRiki]

David Gilmore’s overdrive is always on though. And where is a mxr dyna comp?

[@mustyguitar]

it's not always on. for pulse, he has an overdrive before the muff and for gdansk he has an overdrive after big muff. that's it. and MAYBE for 1977 in he flesh tour, he has colorsound before or after muff but that's a maybe. in all other cases, it's just a big muff and a compressor at max.

[@andyhayes7828]

Imo, the Rams head was closer to vintage Gilmour tone.....it had the proper 'eq'... The Green Russian was a tad too smooth and BROAD sounding in comparison, but, BOTH would do the job obviously.

[@Sea_Dove]

Hello Mustafa! What do you think about Keeley Fuzz bender?

[@Dreamman71]

Great playing again Mustafa !! But I found the first solo soundwise a bit thin. Maybe a booster added somewhere in the chain to stand out?

[@mustyguitar]

i would use an overdrive or compressor but since this is just a comparison between two pedals, i didn't want to color the pedals with any overdrive or booster

[@kagan6724]

Mustafa öncelijle yaptığın iş muthiş. Gecen gun Rams Head aldım bendekinde mi sorun var aşırı gürültü ve senin ayarlarında randıman alamadım

[@mustyguitar]

Teşekkür ederim Kağan. Noise hep var, hem de aşırı. Ama çaldıkça ve doğru zamanda pedalı aktif ettikçe noise o kadar rahatsız etmiyor. 2. Bir husus, benim ayarlarım benim setup için uyuyor, yani amfi ayarlarım, benim sert şekilde çalışım, manyetiklerim vs. Hem de ben amfimi mikrofonluyorum. Odada duyduğun ses ile mikrofonla kaydedilmiş ses arasında dağlar kadar fark oluyor. Ben de odada bayağı boğuk sesler alıyorum çünkü zaten çok az ses var, odaya dağılıyor. Hiçbirimizin evinde sağlam PA sistem yok ki :)

[@kagan6724]

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[@Glensully]

i like the russian better. I am building a pedal that will cross between the two what pickups - they are like noiseless or those lace sensor ones?

[@chickimac1]

Those are the DG20 Emg’s. I have a set in my David Gilmour parts Strat

[@mattcutler1904]

What other effects are you using for those leads? Delicious sounding

[@mustyguitar]

it's on the screen actually. it's just muff and delay for pigs and time, i've added rt-20 for the other ones

[@rareform6747]

What Tube Amplifier ?

[@magentaatnegam]

Hi all! All is cool! But I have a question: are delay and rt-20 included before the preamp? In my opinion, they connect after, otherwise the sound will be - shit!

[@mustyguitar]

every pedal I got is before the amp. I never use fx loop

[@benoitlamere8412]

what amp are you using?

[@mustyguitar]

laney cub 12r

[@Brankas]

Watching this stoned looking at hem fuzzes knobs like dumb faces. Tasteful playing dude!

[@CFCMahomet]

It’s definitely the Rams Head Big Muff. It sustains the Gilmour bends better.

[@mustyguitar]

Well, it’s got a lot more gain, hence, a lot more noise though…

[@mattgilbert7347]

And those high note bends absolutely scream with the RH!

[@jspic4907]

Excelent!!!!!

[@maxyoo548]

What amp settings did you use for this? Any gain or just a clean amp?

[@mustyguitar]

Clean amp, laney cub 12r

[@maxyoo548]

@@mustyguitar thanks

[@jf_valdivieso]

Would the Green Russian fuzz pair nicely before a TS and Fulltone OCD? Sounds already very nice on it's own.

[@mustyguitar]

TS type mid boosting pedals will tend to get a little muddy, but you can try of course.

[@mattgilbert7347]

I'd go TS>Muff>OCD I've done something similar with my Xotic AC Booster in front of a Keeley Opamp Muff into an OCD 1.4. Great tones!

[@amccutcheon1988]

I have the Green Russian which I love but this comparison makes me slightly want the Ram's Head more. Both sound amazing though!

[@mustyguitar]

I will update this video, with better information and better comparison, with blind test and all...

[@amccutcheon1988]

@@mustyguitar Thanks! I also picked up the TC Vibraclone and trying to find the right settings. It seems to take away from the overall tone when turned on. It's still a great sounding pedal. I really appreciate your channel content and expertise.

[@anup_pinkfloydian]

Intersting!!! How does one reduce the noise in Ram's head big muff?

[@mustyguitar]

You can use noise suppressor pedal, but i don't recommend it, it reduces the sustain and the dynamics of the pedal in my opinion, and let's face it they're shit :) Noise is something that's there man, maybe you can use active pickups like EMG's. I've never had that much problem with noise, knowing that even Mr. Gilmour did everything and still had enormous noise when he wasn't picking the strings. I use EMG because i love the tone and mid boost, not because of the active noise cancelling. there are a lot of tutorials on how to shield your guitar on noise but those are mostly for lights and shit, not for the pedal noise itself. Bottom line, you need to get used to it and to tell you the truth, when you don't solo, just turn off the pedal, lower the volume, etc. you won't notice that much.

[@metalore]

​@@mustyguitar The Deluxe Big Muff and Sovtek Deluxe have a noise gate for exactly this purpose. But I'm not sure how authentic the Deluxe's simulation of Rams Head is, since it's not the same circuit. The Sovtek is supposed to have the same circuit as the Green Russian though.

[@renzillodeville]

Hey awesome video , if u want to add an OD , do u put before or after the big muff ? I know is depend of me but i wanna know your taste

[@Po1itica11yNcorrect]

Great tone, but a little more finesse on the tremolo bar would nail the Gilmour sound. Good stuff! Subscribed.

[@rodrigo666godoy]

Wow, I had both but sold the Ram's head, but now i can see how stupid i was... Even with the EMG the RH souded better to my ears...

[@mustyguitar]

cmoooon, you don't sell a pedal unless you (god forbid) lost your hands... I'll update this video with better and more sound clips, this is just bad lighting and stuff...

[@shaem482]

Ram head for soloing

[@varyagace]

I always thought that the Big Muffs were only good for *one* kind of tone, and that you needed something softer like a Fuzz Face to sound like this. I'm glad to be wrong.

[@mustyguitar]

softer? fuzz face?

[@chrishealton3830]

I have an original tall font green Russian, Butler real tube, and a standard rat. I feel like these cover pretty much any drive tone I want to get and then some. But I still kinda wanna scoop up that rams head. 🤦‍♂️ do you think it’d be worth it? Not expensive and pretty small as far as board space goes

[@mustyguitar]

Yeah, I was just like that, "I should have that too, I'll probably need it for X or Y" I'm selling almost 30-40 pedals I own just because I "could" use someday. You really don't need any more pedals Chris, that being said, if you're not happy with your legendary green russian, I can buy from you :) btw, ram's head has a lot more gain and A LOOOT more noise, you probably don't need that much gain or noise, if you need to scoop some of the mids that green russian offering, you can just use an eq for it, though, I wouldn't bother with it.

[@chrishealton3830]

@@mustyguitar well, I appreciate this comment. I’m more than happy with the OG sovtek, it was a lucky find for a very good price at a local shop. I’ll likely never part with it, haha. Really hard to beat. I don’t need a comparatively noisy and harsh muff. I’m sure you know how it is, the temptation to impulse buy gear. 🤣

[@JaggusBaro]

Green Russian is better and more versatile.

[@7thheaventruth]

Am new why do you like the green Muff

[@Stratplayer76]

Rams head is better suited for leads imo.

[@guitarandblanket]

Love the effort you took, great comparison. Still to me they both sound plastic, pale.

[@s74gx8]

Everytime you switch to the Ram. I feel like I hear this X factor that sound more like David’s tone

[@mustyguitar]

well, ram's head was his main unit, %80 of his big muff tones throughout the years came from ram's head. he didn't use sovtek in the studio as far as we know, only on 1994 and 2015 tours.

[@TheMikeygas]

why does your guitar sound out of tune or key with the "Time" backing track, maybe a half step out, I have the green russian, great pedal, gilmour in a box

[@mustyguitar]

I might be a little out of tune, but I hope you still like me

[@dontstop2517]

gilmour literally used the triangle LMAO

[@Honeythebeebee]

He used almost all Big muff

[@yepyepyep8859]

Triangle ? I always thought it was rams head and early fuzz face

[@mikkywhalan]

To my ears, there’s only a 5% difference.

[@mustyguitar]

God bless your ear, I don’t even hear that much sometimes, but they are different eq-wise

[@mikkywhalan]

@@mustyguitar yeah, the Rams head is a little more trebly and can be in some cases Harsh where as the Green Russian is smoother but in some cases and be a but muddy and dark.

[@Garron-k3f]

He used a fuzz face when he recorded the solo for time buddy. You're in the wrong era...

[@mustyguitar]

I think you're missing the point my man.

[@jbrown292]

Great playing, but WAY too much on the whammy bar, it almost became a "gimmick" you just had to throw in nonstop. Less is more. Especially in comfortably numb. Every sustained note you whammied it and it sounded out of tune.