Can SIX pilots save this doomed plane??

[@GreenDotAviation]

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[@C2K777]

Very much worth the wait and brilliantly done as ever. This was a totally new one on me and very interesting. Tbh as a FF I sometimes wonder if it's normal to have such a fascination with air disasters, near misses and close calls. I remember once watching Mentour's video on the Tenerife KLM/ Pan Am dual 747 tragedy whilst flying to the Bahamas which definitely elicited a quizzical look from the young lady who came to ask me if I wanted another drink and saw it on my laptop. She did comment on her return that she had strangely gotten into those videos/ shows since becoming CC but she wasn't sure she'd ever watch such things while on a plane. Being me I couldn't resist telling her that was probably just as well coz she's not supposed to be watching TV whilst at work & that's how these things happen 😆

[@sailaab]

Such exceptionally good presentation and production qualities ought to put you in the 10M subs club soon

[@lion6460]

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[@koharumi1]

Is there a video on the particular circumstances in depth that resulted in the shutdown of what happened.

[@dmreturns6485]

Trainee Pilot " ... argh ... Captain? ... Argh ... Will this be on the test?!"

[@GreenDotAviation]

😂😂

[@FonikosGazmas]

Poor trainee pilot... I hope this experience didnt dissuade him as well as the rest of the trainees from finishing their programs and becoming pilots.

[@GodiscomingBhappy]

i thought the same thing... if i was a trainee i certainly would think about it twice🤭

[@dylanklebald8123]

Talk about trial by fire

[@josmclove4426]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sigbauer9782]

what cracks me up is that, while the captain forgot to hit the transmit button when calling for mayday, no one on the ground seemed to noticed a 320 slamming into the runway and taking off again and thought to call them.

[@mofleh177]

It's likely the Air Controller knew this was a training flight and thought maybe this was part of an "aggressive training"!

[@josh-kf2rd]

​@mofleh177 when I was 10, my step-dad took me, my sister and her friend to an empty lot for her "driving class". A lot of putting the old Mercedes up on two wheels and shit. He said it was to teach her she has control of the car, but really he was a crazy motherfucker who never took the boring route.

[@DrJonathanWitt]

Appreciate that the content you produce is often of incidents which are less well known or heard of. Thanks.

[@Vinlyguyx420x]

Yeah 100%

[@bluecoffee8414]

I'm amazed that ACI never covered this (unless I'm wrong). It's such an intense story

[@patriciaramsey5294]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@annnee6818]

@@bluecoffee8414 ACI? I'm not aware of that channel

[@MavaprGosu]

Agree

[@232K7]

*600 ft above the ground* Holy ****. That must have been one of the most hopeless looking dives they'd ever experienced, and they still flew the absolute hell out of that thing. This kind of piloting is right up there with what the crew of ua232 pulled off; absolutely phenomenal.

[@hauntedshadowslegacy2826]

I would not be surprised or disappointed if those pilots flipped the bird to the bird as they disembarked. The stress must'a been immense.

[@GodiscomingBhappy]

God's intervention for sure

[@Aisakdik69]

@@GodiscomingBhappygod aint real buddy otherwise you’re saying he let the thousands of other air crash victims die

[@GodiscomingBhappy]

@@Aisakdik69 sure he is, he is all around, death is part of life, you are not meant to understand when God calls them home. Your time will come too, as everybody else´s. Blessings.

[@vergil1155]

​@@Aisakdik69you assume God is supposed to turn the world into a utopia and have no test for the human he created.

[@autumnleaves2766]

I'm always happy when everyone survives such a terrifying incident. Hats off to the instructor pilots who brought the plane down safely. I hope the trainee pilots weren't put off flying by this incident.

[@iitool]

Nice work. You described the technical aspects very well. Good balance between story, visuals and relevant technical items!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thanks Danny!

[@PassiveSmoking]

The most insidious thing about this particular event is that, aside from using the wrong lubricant on the switch, every decision made by both the pilots and the designers of the aircraft's systems seems to be perfectly reasonable on its face. It's only when you take all those decisions together and throw a very specific fault into the mix as well that they lead to a near fatal accident. Engineers have to always be thinking about the "what-ifs" when designing systems, doubly so for safety-critical ones. That's why Boeing's decisions surrounding MCAS were so shocking. No engineer worth their salt should have ever signed off on a system that was so obviously deficient and potentially dangerous as MCAS turned out to be. But this is different. There's probably no engineer on Earth that could have imagined a scenario where all four flight computers shut down one after the other with the exception of complete power loss in the aircraft combined with a failure of the RAT, which, quite honestly, nobody would expect anybody to survive anyway. But that's what happened here, via a sequence of events that nobody could have reasonably predicted. This was, as Mentour Pilot might put it, a black swan event. There was no way to predict it as a possibility, no way to train for it, and probably no chance of it ever happening again even with the new precautions that have been brought in since it happened.

[@EannaButler]

Swiss Cheese comes to mind too...

[@C2K777]

@@EannaButler I'll have some mushrooms on mine 😂

[@pibbles-a-plenty1105]

Not only does software have to account for unreasonable inputs it has to account for mechanical failures simultaneously. Good luck on that ever happening in all cases to prevent an accident. 🧐

[@combcomclrlsr]

You're too easy on the engineers responsible for designing the software to control these systems. Failures should be graceful.

[@samuvisser]

Actually the fact system 3 and 4 shut down was preventable enough. They assumed if one landing gear is in the air and the other isnt that means the computer is broken. Thats a completely false assumption, it is a situation that can happen. Shutting it down only for that feels very unreasonable

[@kananaba]

I'm Estonian so of course I saw this incident on the news after it happened, but I had no idea about the details behind it. I just knew there was a crash at Tallinn airport and everyone survived. So this video was very eye-opening! What an absolute nightmare flight for the pilots and just amazing work for landing the plane! Thanks for covering it.

[@kevmed64]

Your excellent narration is the key differentiator of your channel versus others doing similar content on YT. You have raised the bar substantially!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thank you!

[@aerohk]

This channel is giving Mayday a run for its money, that's for sure.

[@silvaanosvs8783]

For me, hearing someone who knowS about the grammar of singular and plural is such a relief. Like listening to a great singer after having suffered through a school concert.

[@mateinamoto]

I think Mayday is focusing more on the drama (and the experience) of the people involved, while GDA is focusing more on the technical elements and events that led to these disasters, plus the results of the investigations that followed. Both channels are doing a great job in their own way. @@aerohk

[@josieann5031]

It's so nice to hear a human voice. There are way too many aviation channels that use horrible AI.

[@exiletsj2570]

What the trainee pilot was thinking: I should have gone to medical school.

[@theaceofspades485]

The training was so real we almost died during our touch and go. They told us "so that's how you handle that kind of situation." Now I drive a school bus for a living.

[@bscholer]

Were you on this plane? That's absolutely crazy!!

[@josmclove4426]

🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@edifyguy]

@@bscholer I'm guessing it's a joke. I laughed, anyway. :)

[@kathyhorstman7909]

Amazing aviating, especially on the part of the instructor. I hope this raised the trainees' respect for him to a whole new level. And that it didn't put them off flying.

[@PredictedCyborg]

Those trainees got a hell of a lesson. Glad that everyone made it down safely and hats off to the skill of the instructors!

[@WayneM1961]

Man, machine and computers. When all 3 are working in harmony it's heavenly, when something happens to break that bond it's sheer hell. The instructor surely deserved some kind of honour and decoration for what can only be described as a remarkable piece of airmanship. If this had been programmed into a simulator, I bet it would never have got a successful landing. Love your style and presentation Green Dot Aviation, you have new subscriber

[@geoffedmonds6507]

All I can say is WOW!!! WOW!!! WOW!!! Excellent video and phenomenal end result. Regardless of fly by wire technology these two pilots remembered how to fly the plane even at its most rudimentary they stayed laser locked on utilizing what they "did have" and flew the plane. Miraculous, simply fabulous!

[@BERRYcompany]

I live in Estonia and Latvia, but never have heard about the given incident, but really impressed to hear it on your chanel. Respects to SmartLinx instructors and trainees, trully impossible situation.

[@Menstral]

Simulator - I wonder if Pilots can go into the simulator and select incidents like this, sort of a "greatest hits of disasters" and practice whether they could deliver the appropriate results.

[@pertsonvelts1699]

Good one! :)

[@C2K777]

I'd imagine it's possible to some degree. Crash Investigators pretty much always have pilots recreate the incident using as much data as they can gather to see if it was a recoverable incident or how likely it is that a pilot would be able to get out of X, Y, Z which they do by seeing how many sets of pilots can and can't achieve a non total loss result. All that data has to be programmed in and whilst some countries have the resources and facilities for the investigating branch of their country to have their own Sim's/ access to. There are many more that don't so private/ airline/ manufacturer facilities would be used. If I was the guy asked to programme in those parameters you can be sure i'm gonna save that one for later.

[@BobbyGeneric145]

I have a firsthand answer... If you have time remaining in your sim block, a cool instructor will ask "want to try anything?" In the crj900 I've personally done dual engine failures, water ditching, barrel rolls, and weaving through valleys.

[@MrJuanDover]

@@BobbyGeneric145 I have had an instructor spring asymmetric flap extension on takeoff on me in a single engine GA full cockpit sim. Scared the pants off me. He didn't warn me.

[@BobbyGeneric145]

@@MrJuanDover something I've always wondered... We do V1 engine failures in the sim, and its programmed to fail right when you are rotating. Why not change it up and have v1 well below Vr so that you are draggin along a dead engine a good 5 seconds before rotating. Guaranteed that many would attempt aborting after v1.

[@ChristophersMum]

PHEW...that was nerve racking just to see it...all from the wrong lubricant...😬😱 so glad they knew how to fly...🛫 Thanks from Scotland...✨

[@zaildarbains]

i been in the sim with manual trim 0nly. n0 eng fire. the trim is very sluggish t0 react. al0mst imp0ssible t0 make a landing. we get trained 0nly t kee it in the air. n0t stall 0r crash

[@mxkoifish6984]

I've heard of this particular incident before but you still had me on the edge of my seat for the whole flight, wow!!

[@dianericciardistewart2224]

Wow. . . just wow. . . thank goodness for experienced pilots!! Kudos!! What a nightmare!! Green Dot Aviation, excellent presentation and explanation!! Great graphics!! Totally awesome!! This had me on the 'edge of my seat'!! Thanks!! And, glad all were able to get safely on the ground after such a horrific ordeal!! 👍✈✈👍

[@cunever]

As I said before, there’s nothing like your videos on KZbin, and I repeat: nothing! Definitely not “Mayday”, or some pilots retelling well known crashes. What makes “near misses” more interesting is the added input from the crew which gives not only a deeper insight, but in the end more safety for the entire industry.

[@Carlos44]

Check out Disaster Breakdown, AirSpace, The Flight Channel, and Three Greens. I like them all.

[@Yosetime]

I wonder if anyone ever checked back with those 4 trainee pilots to see how they made out afterwards and if any of them were too traumatized to continue training? I would think that after this event they all would have become the best problem solving pilots flying today! Those are the ones I want flying my airplane that's for sure!

[@LuLeBe]

I doubt they learned much from it personally. Learning while fearing for your life is hard enough, and not being involved but just sitting in the cabin meant they really couldn't possibly have learnt anything apart from "don't give up, maybe you'll survive"

[@edifyguy]

@@LuLeBe Don't give up is a great lesson to learn, actually, and I'm sure they did learn it.

[@tomstravels520]

The irony was if the captain kept pressing the ELAC's off and on the nothing would have happened. It was only when he didn't it all went wrong

[@zaildarbains]

and there is no need to stop elevator trim during touch and goes. it auto sets to 0 u can fly no prob. cuz its smart enough to realise that pilot may abort the landing.

[@juliepeasley7131]

Excellent video! I was terrified just watching it, I can't imagine what the crew felt. And what a way to learn for the trainees. I wonder if they went on to continue their flight training. It really shows how a skilled pilot can make all the difference. I look forward to more great videos from your channel, thanks for making them!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thank you very much!

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

Up front I'm not a pilot... However, I ride a motorcycle, and have for about 30 years. I've seen some pretty gnarly sh*t over that time, and (so far) managed to only have some truly hairy close calls. Riding CAN be absolutely terrifying from time to time, even when you do it well... SO I wouldn't be terribly surprised to find out most but maybe not all those students continued their training. Those who did continue truly DO have "the bug". They'll likely become much better pilots for the experience in their formative years of schooling. After some of my own hairiest moments, I've taken a break for 3 days (at the longest) to seriously consider just how much I love the sport... Then I got the gear back on and MADE myself go ride... even just a trip to a parking lot and some drills (figure-8's, brake-and-escape, etc)... AND by the time I was into my second or third drill, I was "over it". I can't quit... It's MY "bug"... if that makes any sense. I've always been that way about it, and friends joke that I'd bleed 10W-40 or that I'd rather ride than breathe... We're going to face moments of truth once in a while. If you can find YOUR "bug" then those moments will make you stronger and help you grow. I truly hope you do, and for those student pilots that might've given it up on this account, it wasn't quite their "bug" yet... and that's also OKAY. ;o)

[@andrewgkorol]

Amazing video, my favourite content is when you cover lesser known incidents like this one with great learnings to be had. Thankyou 😊

[@GreenDotAviation]

Glad you enjoyed it Andrew!

[@robbflynn4325]

Pretty complex explanation for this which you present in a clear way so even people like me can understand. Well done!

[@Vinlyguyx420x]

This is a truly poop your pants situation! Holy Moly

[@OriginalFrozenJoe]

Well done on the video. What a story of airman-ship. Very impressive they kept their heads together in the face of imminent death. I especially enjoy seeing the flight instructor realizing the plane is damaged beyond repair, might as well suck out every operational second it can provide to save everyone's lives rather than trying to save the plane or its engines.

[@russellnixon9981]

Excellent original content, well researched and presented.

[@luisferreira7654]

Awesome content ... this is basically "air Netflix" for free :D

[@jmurray01]

I'd never heard of this incident before. Incredibly interesting nonetheless and definitely a case of a confluence of issues which thankfully would never normally happen.

[@johannageisel5390]

We've recently had the 20 year anniversary of the deadliest crash in the history of German aviation, a collision of two planes near the Lake Constance. I would love to see a video about this incident from you, because I like the calm way you present these things.

[@michaelosgood9876]

Collision of which 2 planes? Is it the TU154 v the DHL 757 collision you're meaning? If so, I'd also like this guy to cover that one. Far the best Air accident story teller on KZbin, this channel.

[@johannageisel5390]

@@michaelosgood9876 Yes. Was there another collision near Lake Constance at some point?

[@michaelosgood9876]

@@johannageisel5390 Don't know if your being facetious or not but I'm from the other side of the world & don't know of all the accidents around Europe. Can't say for sure

[@johannageisel5390]

@@michaelosgood9876 I have never heard of another collision in this place, so I was wondering if there was another one I did not know about, because you were asking as if there were more than one of these incidents.

[@michaelosgood9876]

@@johannageisel5390 All good. Actually, I thought the Interflug IL 62.crash was fairly massive

[@paulazemeckis7835]

Wonder how many more scenarios Airbus didn't account for.

[@Dakiraun]

What an incredible set of compounding circumstances! What I find really fascinating about it is that the only actual error was the wrong lubricant type. All the behaviour of the pilots and computer software was, technically, correct, yet it resulted in disaster from the deviation from technical correctness to _actual_ reality. And that's just one of thousands of system-interactions aboard a sophisticated aircraft like that. I wonder what others might be lurking and waiting to be found in another unique situation?

[@GreenDotAviation]

Great point and that’s a good question. There must be similarly unlikely combinations just waiting to be discovered.

[@ChristophersMum]

I wouldn't like to be the one who found them 😬

[@Dakiraun]

@@GreenDotAviation For sure. Working in Network Administration/engineering, I would say a good _half_ of outages, crashes and other problems are the result of unknown unique circumstances. The code behind devices nowadays is incredibly complex, and the reality is that it's not possible to account for "everything" a person might do. They, unfortunately, tend to only be found when they happen.

[@Dakiraun]

@@ChristophersMum Yeah, no kidding. :/

[@ha_ha-ha_ha]

@@GreenDotAviation why did the instructor retract the flaps when deciding to *not* reject the takeoff? Wouldn’t the impact of the aircraft with the ground after lifting off have not happened with the flaps still extended? The damage caused by the impact as a result would have not happened and the aircraft could have still been repairable after landing..

[@steve-marsh]

I'm only 5 minutes in and this is utterly terrifying!!!!

[@viperdriver82]

They should have gotten an award...good job

[@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311]

It begs the question how many flights take place where, even BEFORE take off, an alert, or fault, is displayed - but dismissed as "minor" - and about which, due to no deaths or injuries, we never hear, but which, in an alternate universe, are devastating......

[@Kelvin-ed6ce]

wouldn't engaging the autopilot and setting vertical speed of 0 just solve everything?

[@kolasom]

This was a weird one. So much for all that wonderful redundancy, eh?

[@madmaxmel]

Does anyone remember to mention what a good job the crew did? There were many situations where a wrong decision would have cost lives. Excellent work and right decisions.

[@bthereaper45]

I really like that you create these videos more to explain what is happening with the airplane mechanics and the psychology behind accidents and near disasters... it's nice seeing cases that don't just involve crashes. Thank you so much wonderful work.

[@SallyGreenaway]

what an absolutely epic story! thank you for making a video about this. I was on the edge of my seat the entire time!

[@monikathomas4985]

All my years of watching air crash investigations and I never heard of this one! What a good job by the inspector pilot!

[@landychen9968]

Do you make birgenair flight 301🙏🏻

[@GreenDotAviation]

I plan to make that at some point, stay tuned

[@jekanyika]

I wonder what happened to the students, did they carry on flying or was that experience too much?

[@martinwarner1178]

One worked in a super market, and the other three decided to be truck drivers. Peace be unto you.

[@jekanyika]

@@martinwarner1178 source?

[@martinwarner1178]

@@jekanyika Joke! lighten up Captain. Peace be unto you.

[@nedcollier1495]

As always, great graphics, commentary, analysis and presentation.... please keep them coming.

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thanks! More on the way ✈️

[@Yosetime]

Great job again! I haven't checked your listings yet, but have you covered what we call 'The Gimli Glider'? It was a Canadian flight that lost all engines and landed like a glider I think in Manitoba on an old abandoned military base airstrip. It's a good story about survival due to the experience of the pilots that saved the day just like this one. This story includes some close calls with civilians on the ground.

[@djplayzyt1234]

Lovely work can’t wait for more this is so intresting

[@GreenDotAviation]

More to come!

[@djplayzyt1234]

@@GreenDotAviation I’m excited!

[@EannaButler]

Could they not have restarted the two ELACs and two SECs computers? Fair enough the plane switched those computers off - but they were able to restart ELAC-1 in previous touch-and-go's?

[@GreenDotAviation]

Good question - I figure that if they had been able to do that, it would have been recommended by Airbus after the incident as a solution to this problem, so I presume (but don’t know for sure) that for some reason this wasn’t possible.

[@EannaButler]

@@GreenDotAviation Yeah - it's so obviously a step that should have been undertaken, that it surely was undertaken. Maybe that's the bug that Airbus fixed (which you referenced)? That once all four computers were offline, they weren't restartable...

[@C2K777]

I'd presume that the ability to do so would be intentionally blocked. Just as the computers are designed to stop pilots and themselves from taking an action which could damage or crash the plane I think the ability to shutdown all 4 computers that have such a large amount of influence or control on primary control surfaces would be hardwired / core programmed to not be allowed. Otherwise it could, for example, make it easier for a suicidal pilot to nosedive the thing. - Just some blue sky thinking on it

[@tomstravels520]

If the captain had kept resetting the irony is that nothing would have happened

[@boeingdriver29]

My compliments to the Instructor. Above and beyond.

[@bjornleonhenry9750]

Cool video, as always, greetings from BKK 🚀😎

[@GreenDotAviation]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@MrJokkoma]

There's two options for these trainees, either they go home whit their pants fully loaded after that nightmare and never go near an aircraft again, or they quickly change pants and go up in the sky's again whit better knowledge than ever about aribus scary flight computers and their behavior at it's worst and become great pilots.

[@happydogs5559]

awesome content!! much love from Bangkok, Thailand 🙏❤️

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thanks! 🙏

[@octagonPerfectionist]

excellent video as always! i noticed a typo in the chapter list though - it should say dual engine failure!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Ah! Good catch - fixed

[@mallorieryan9573]

Oh boy, I bet those poor trainee pilots had to empty out their undies when they finally got off that plane!!

[@tonywomack6270]

Could you imagine the first time you're flying an airplane and all the stuff happens all my goodness LOL

[@pibbles-a-plenty1105]

There's just no such thing as fault free automation. Nor is there such a thing as fault free pilots. It was serendipity that saved this airliner from killing its crew and trainees. How's that for a comforting thought? 😟

[@doctorfoster1968]

Just as you indicated on your recent live stream, this was a very tense episode! Thank you. So very interesting.

[@niftybass]

Automation without visibility is deadly. Automation is amazing, but if the pilot doesn't know what automation is thinking, all the training in the world is useless.

[@gcorriveau6864]

Excellent point. Sadly, regulatory agencies are slow to acknowledge that the latest generation of airliners are so deeply automated that no one - especially not a pilot struggling just to stay alive - is able to always realize "what automation is thinking" during unusual events like this. (i.e. the recent B737 Max disasters)

[@de_fatherland6467]

geez i almost spit out my drink when i read the title, i flew on smartlynx a month ago, very good video btw

[@jamesphillips2285]

@@Capecodham "By the way"

[@NikanDragosysSerpenDra]

airmanship award worthy!!!!and the safety pilot, MANUAL PITCH TRIM ONLY MANUAL PITCH TRIM ONLY, . Using engine momentums and rolls to stabilize the aircraft, maybe airbus should retrofit the IMPTA (Independant Manual Pitch trim Assist, That you have to activate with the wheel First, and would help to more smoothly control the trim wheel only when indeed ELAC 1 2, and SEC systems fail, also, and either the pilot go through a memory item or checklist) a independent system, that will automatically pop up the systems flight control page, and independant sensors checking sidestick inputs with aileron control, the fact that it already exists, astounds me, I think the A350 can be manually pitch trimmed using the sidestick, only after moving the ptrim wheel 1degree up and 0.5 degrees down, also being able to use that, but activates an independent manual pitch trim command using the sidestick, that way you can have hands free and more accurately control the trim wheel with the sidestick, infact the sidestick is directly connected to the trim wheel and it's on direct law only on A380 when pilots confirm in both cases with a checklist that they lost aileron and is avaiable on one side only, it's not widely implemented as these things will proably ner will happen qgqin, even if the airbus has something similar to assist in trimming during engine failure at or above v1 to assist in rudder trimmingwhen the track RW track deviates idk but this is dependant on flight computers. in either way the arbus performed well with all these modes of automation,

[@PepekBezlepek]

what a crazy crazy incident. I absolutely love your animations and narration ♥♥ the use of MFS in this high quality is just stunning to watch.

[@sierrabravo7156]

I hope the trainee pilots continued their training!

[@tonykennedy6161]

Recently discovered the channel, I work in the aviation industry and can't stand the aircrash investigation series with the dramas an nonsensical takes on accidents...anyways really like your content informative, concise & no bs...have you considered doing the crash @ Cork Airport involving the metro?

[@martinweiss5384]

Very well done, Green Dot Aviation! Perfect command of technical details, and that lovely Irish accent. Great!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@landychen9968]

Another high quality video.🤩

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thanks Landy!

[@deemariedubois4916]

That was tense. Nothing takes the place of pilot’s training and flight experience. Great job.

[@Doradafan]

Incredible video, and I'm equally amazed I've never heard of it. Reminds me of the Air Astana incident in Portugal

[@ryancase8858]

Wow that pilot is good.. what a stressful situation. Terrifying.

[@mikeomalley5761]

U gotta have some balls to be a pilot! Hats off to the men and women out there flying us around! Thk u!

[@cherokee592]

A VERY good video full of great explanations and indepth knowledege of the A320.

[@MatchingUser]

The training experience from hell.

[@DavidHughes-op6zl]

And did the idiot(s) who used the wrong lubricant get punished or escape penalty...?

[@oatlord]

Man, your videos should be required viewing for any maintenence crew.

[@SkyRiverTV]

One of the best channels of 2023 for me - well done. Thank you.

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thank you!

[@majorberk4647]

Skilful glide in and landing under those circumstances and the stress level at that time

[@ederss7]

Why did the horizontal stabiliser get stuck in neutral position after the computers were shut down? Why has it been designed to do that?

[@Slu54]

Great question I cannot fathom any situation where you would intentionally decouple the stick from the controls

[@McGrathPete]

Wow. I wonder if the trainees carried on in aviation, or whether it put any of them off…..

[@nice2care]

Wow, talk about perfect storm!

[@JakeArey]

I haven’t heard this story before. Great job with the production quality and overall storytelling

[@MELANIE2571]

Need to go for a lie down now. Feel as if I landed that plane myself ! Beyond comprehension that the pilots landed and safely too.

[@avboi9952]

your content is 🔥

[@mallninja9805]

@19:50 "Had a less experienced crew been at the controls, the outcome likely would not have been as fortuitous" - I thought this situation was specific to a training exercise and like 4 of these guys had never actually been in a cockpit before? Could there have even _been_ a less experienced crew in these circumstances?

[@maxwahlund3235]

Those 4 were doing nothing once the problems started

[@tahustvedt]

Great videdo. And amazing graphics.

[@GreenDotAviation]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@kakab66]

What if the crew had done a reset of one (or more) Flight Controls Computers once they were in mechanical back-up? Wouldn't they have recovered some flight control capability?

[@tomstravels520]

Yes they would have

[@Nobilangelo]

Fascinating, and excellent graphics.

[@JustBen81]

Did the pilots in training reconsider their job choice?

[@h_enrix_92]

Amazing pilots and CRM.

[@Almost_a_hero]

This sounds like an average flight in gta 5

[@davidhynd4435]

I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

[@sarahdon3165]

Wow 🤩 I had never seen or heard of this Estonia 🇪🇪accident I was riveted ( unlike those poor doors at the end 🫣) those pilots deserved a medal 🎖 how amazing was that CRM and to have a check captain and a safety and a highly experienced pilot 👨‍✈️ as well. That was insane that one little incident that looks inconspicuous at first almost killed them all . I do like the AirBus planes hopefully I will be able to travel on this one . But tell you what this video goes to prove once again how amazing planes ✈️ are and how you awesome 👏🏻 the pilots are who fly them . The fact that they used the trim to help stop the up and down motions brilliant. One of the most interesting and well done aviation accident or incident video I’ve seen in absolutely ages . Thank you so much 😊 it must of taken you ages to make and honestly the graphics the plane ✈️ even the heat coming off the engines while in flight 👏🏻👍🏻the snow ❄️ landscapes as well just so so well done . I can’t wait to watch another one ☝🏻 now xxx 🥰 xxx

[@ogaibo1316]

One additional thing Airbus have changed after this incident, is that the automatic retrim to the neutral position is now delayed until the aircraft has reached a slow speed. This way the instructor no longer needs to grab the trim wheel during base training.

[@jve89]

I was at the Tallinn airport at this day waiting for my flight, that was obviously delayed.

[@StarPartners]

That’s an incredible story 👍👍

[@hauntedshadowslegacy2826]

7:49 For those who wanna know a bit more, it's actually pretty easy to see phugoid oscillations in action. In fact, you've probably already seen 'em. If you've built and/or thrown a paper airplane, then you've probably seen one enter a phugoid pattern. It's rather common in well-made paper airplanes. If you're curious, give it a try.

[@deus_ex_machina_]

> Flight 9001 > Engine Fire Clearly the issue was that the engine's power level was too high (specifically, over 9000), causing it to go Super Saiyan and therefore catch fire. The fix is simple, don't assign flight numbers above 9000.

[@ghoste2755]

Correct me if I'm wrong... Everytime they got that warning, ELAC 1 shut down, and handed control to ELAC 2, however the pilots reset the computer, so that ELAC 1 was back in control. However, one approach they didn't do this, which means ELAC 2 was still controlling, and when that sensed the same problem, IT shut down aswell. After that, all hell broke loose, causing a major control failure. So using that logic... during the emergency situation, when both ELAC 1 & 2 had failed, if they had just.. reset ELAC 1 & 2, would it have fixed all their flight control problems? I mean its obvious it wouldn't magically reverse the engine fire, and landing gear door damages, but in terms of flight controls, would they have been regained?

[@ianmatthewkline8279]

I’m a biologist not a pilot so this may sound like a naive question but … How can these planes even fly with all the weight from the massive balls of steel balls of this captain? Damn, that was insane!! Well done!

[@amyshaw893]

do I get any green dots for guessing it correctly?

[@GreenDotAviation]

Yes sir! Three for you 🟢🟢🟢

[@amyshaw893]

@@GreenDotAviation magnificent! And a good day to you