P-47 vs. Modern Jets, It's A LOT of Fun, DCS

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

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[@boaltie10]

"Pulling mixture to idle cutoff, fuel selector to off." Cracked me up. Your instructor would be proud.

[@admiralqualityspretendingtofly]

He forgot the master battery switch. ;)

[@nickhill934]

I have always been too intimidated to fly DCS multiplayer, but then I watched a video of a bunch of guys in modern fighter jets trying to turn fight with a P-47 on the deck.

[@JETZcorp]

I started DCS multi-player when I was like 14. Technically it was still called Lock-On back then, but the F-15 hasn't really changed. Yeah I got rocked a bunch, but it was a lot of fun. If you watch this channel, there are probably going to be a lot of fools online who know less than you. Heck, even our man Greg misidentifies a MiG-29 as a Su-27 at the start of this video, lol.

[@sethbromley7186]

Fighting a P-47 goes against what their experience and instinct is telling them. If they take hits or see tracers, and they don't know it's coming from a P-47, the hard break turn is usually the correct move -- if you go vertical against another fast jet at gun range, he just follows you and shreds you. That F-86 guy though, no excuse. Should have boomed and zoomed, instead reversed right into Greg's guns. RIP.

[@Jack-Tactical]

Best thing about MP is you end up meeting like minded people and having a group to fly with. I found this easier on WW2 servers.

[@AdmiralQuality]

I never understand that. It's not like anybody knows who you are or you carry a career record around that has any meaning. DCS isn't a game, it's a simulator. (Sometimes Greg doesn't seem to understand that and describes features of a particular server as if they're a built-in part of a game. DCS is a sandbox simulator, and it's up to the community to make games *in* it. For example, the shoot-down messages he mentions don't have to be there - entirely up to the server owner/Mission designer. I don't care much for the chat display either but it is a good idea to monitor it. You can hide it with Tab and only a mail icon will appear letting you know there's new messages you haven't read yet. I hate any fake overlays but I usually leave that one up and scan the messages I've missed when I occasionally get a chance, unless the team is solidly using voice comms. It's not just server messages in there but player chat as well. What's dumb and unnecessary though is you can't open the chat with Tab unless the mail icon is also activated. LCtrl+Y if I remember correctly. All LCtrl+Y *should* do is enable/disable display of the "email" icon. But why would I want a hotkey to lock out use of another hotkey?) And as for getting shot down, I know I provided some other player with the satisfaction of downing a human opponent. Never bothers me, though I do *try* to succeed, not succeeding doesn't ruin my night or anything. And if you get frustrated in one server, switch to another and do something totally different with a totally different bunch. Change your login name! Nobody knows or cares who you are! (Well, except me. I get banned from servers by fanboy owners due to my customer advocacy role.)

[@SnakebitSTI]

Usually you have to tell beginners to WWII flight sims not to get lured into turn fighting at low altitude with their P-47 lol. Very entertaining video.

[@westwindsailer]

Narrative got me cracking up , “ hope he got out” “ blew his wing off, and that’s fantastic” “ as they say in France cest la vie, and they’ve done it to me plenty of times” “ coming in onnn…ohhh its frenchie in his mirage…”

[@esadkurt1095]

P47 might be Greg's favorite plane but cant tell

[@FoxtrotYouniform]

I'd guess a different ww2 radial beast, the Hellcat.

[@CabMech]

I LIKE BIG JUGS AND I CANNOT LIE

[@poncho_mart]

Nah, it’s his FW-190 D 😏

[@GordonFalt]

@@poncho_martfacts

[@cutlassmyself2473]

@@FoxtrotYouniform No, the Corsair. Particularly the Corsair 5. That outperforms the Hellcat quite a bit, despite having the same engine.

[@JLopez-g1n]

If Eagle Dynamics got their act together and released a full WW2 aircraft lineup, including all the sub-variants, they would print money. A P-38 in DCS would be so amazing.

[@Kestrel16C]

Well yeah in a perfect world could have an IL-2 Great Battles line up in DCS, complete with better AI and dynamic campaigns for it.. My dream for flight simulation anyway..

[@Nightdare]

Money talks The fact they haven't means they have a better grasp of what sells

[@markr.1984]

@@Nightdare Not a perfect grasp, because I won't buy it because I'm more interested in W.W1 and 2 a lot. Not so much excited about modern jets.

[@RosemaryHedgerows]

IL-2 simply has them beat in terms of the battlefield simulation, business model, more variation and a more modern UI; to me it seems DCS WW2 has been a failure for ED.

[@Nightdare]

@@markr.1984 If ED would see a return in investment, I'm sure they would expand more on WW2, but apparently, as it is, it's not really their customer base

[@lowspeedhighdrag566]

Greg… do literally whatever you want and i will watch. You are the only channel I support on patreon. Got 4 kids life is pricey but I found your channel worth it.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Thank you, I really appreciate that.

[@BigMacMan99]

The ending of this had me chuckling. "Although, it's also the end of me... I'm too low to bail so that's it. Goodbye and have a great day!" Salutes and bugle sounds 😂

[@stcredzero]

I think it was on this channel that I learned: Taiwan flew P-47's against PLAAF Mig-15's. And the Taiwanese air force fought them to a standstill!

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I do think I was the first to talk about that on youtube.

[@FoxtrotYouniform]

I feel like the Thunderbolt is getting that international recognition these days that we in the US have always given the big old lady. What a magnificent aircraft.

[@Turloghan]

Hello Greg. You actually proved that best pilots are not these which turning quickly, but these ones who ALWAYS FLYING IN HIGH SPEEDS BEST FOR THEIRS PLANE parameters. I started to do the same thing in IL-2 GB , and in P-38 its harder for others to shoot me down, on P-47 too, but not too much 🙂.

[@StangLX351]

Man I loved watching you fly my beloved Jug and putting in the work.

[@svenjonsson9]

LOL, I would never have guessed Greg would play mixed era battles! He seems like such a technical purist, but hey, fun is fun! : )

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Sven, that's exactly right, fun is fun.

[@zloychechen5150]

He blew up a mustang, he knows how to have fun.

[@asvadkhan9692]

There's something very surreal to me about seeing a P-47 turnfighting and winning nearly on the deck.

[@clippership8381]

Gabreski, Bob Johnson, and Zemke would be proud!

[@sethbromley7186]

Fun video. Every time they see the tracers they bank hard and kill their energy because they assume you're another jet, then they end up in a slow turn fight. A Thunderbolt II would really clean up in this kind of fight I think.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

That's a good explanation of what was happening. The A-10's cannon is tilted down a bit so it might be hard to aim.

[@BlackMasterRoshi]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles also doesn't it not usually fire tracers?

[@JETZcorp]

Greg, you are absolutely correct that the Mirage is a blast to fly. The instantaneous turn rate is ABSURD on that thing. My favorite thing in the world is get get the Mirage into a BVR fight with Tomcats. I once notched a 3-ship of Tomcats all the way to the merge and wiped out the whole formation from their six while they were still wondering where I went. The Mirage is also completely untouchable at altitude. There's a video on my channel from Tacview of me intercepting the enemy AWACS and then simply out-running the entire enemy team as they try to chase me in Eagles and Hornets. The Mirage can get to the Concorde flight profile (M2.0 Angels 60) with missiles onboard and sustain it for almost the entire width of most DCS theater maps. With that much energy, you really cannot be intercepted unless a Tomcat plays his cards exactly right with an AIM-54. In an 80s era server without fox-3s, the Mirage becomes a God, able to manipulate the fabric of space-time at will.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

That sounds fun.

[@dalehawthorne6301]

Laughing my head off. The other pilots: "WHAT just shot me down?"

[@garyraley4050]

Usually don’t enjoy watching sim vids, but with your narration it was enjoyable

[@psikogeek]

4:02 I sometimes see, " *Activate Windows* " when I black out." It's a common Linux nightmare.

[@goaway7346]

That Su27 looked a lot like a Mig29!

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Flashing through the gunsight of a P-47, they both look like dead meat to me.

[@olivialambert4124]

Wild how many opponents tried to take the Thunderbolt in a radius fight. The DCS community has got so much better at dogfighting, I thought they would know when to take the radius fight and when to take the rate fight. Or in this case when to take the energy fight. Surprising you can keep up in a P47 but it looks like a blast.

[@x_womanslayer_x]

Reasons 1. Lack of SA 2. Target fixation 3. Poor ACM execution/not working with team 4. General "oh shit is that a prop?!?" Confusion

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Let's keep in mind I did get shot down 4 times in this video so there are people on the server who do understand ACM, it's just that with 30 people in the arena, there were quite a few who don't.

[@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935]

You are getting great service from your turbo air ducting, they held the fuselage bottom together in an unfortunately abrasive forced landing. Right Stuff ++😎

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

The P-47 has a crash skid as part of the design. It comes in handy.

[@Mike-eq4ky]

DAMN Greg, who knew you were such a cold-blooded killer?! Your commentary is priceless! Nice work there. Think you might have missed your calling!! Just goes to show the pilot and tactics usually matters more than the aircraft, at least with up close and personal guns-only armament. As long as you don't need to contend with modern, stand off attacks -- Happy Hunting!! You rock!

[@spookyghost3209]

1:20 - "Theres alot of baddies out here" - Greg 💀

[@irvcranistan]

Greg, Love your channel and all your detailed information you provide!! This video is so fun! I’m gonna jump on SCS and take my P-47 for a ride!! Irv

[@IAmTheAce5]

Reminds me when playing multiplayer Ace Combat 7- I decided to take a Mig-21 with gunpods and play a 'shark', staying low and ducking around the terrain waiting for opportunities to pop-up and take a bite of someone's tail.

[@Activated_Complex]

That's much more sporting than what I used to do in Ace Combat 6. Which was, zoom climb to maximum altitude, position myself over the middle of the swirling air battle, and dive until I got a bunch of targets locked with my XMAAs/AMRAAMs. Unleash those, rinse and repeat.

[@LancelotChan]

I'm surprised by your good shooting here! You're not only extremely knowledgeable about aircraft, you're also very good shooting in one.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Thanks but keep in mind, I was shot down four times in this video. Plus I'm not putting up all the shots I missed, still overall I thought I did pretty well.

[@LancelotChan]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles You're being humble. You were flying a grand dad against those jet kids. ;)

[@LancelotChan]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles I used to fly in warbirds by ICI back in 199x to 200x and was pretty good in that. Nowadays I watch Growling sidewinder whenever he has a video out, and when it comes to gun, I'll try to judge when to pull the trigger by my experience, and when he did so in the same time, to see whether it will hit. My gunnery is obviously above his grade from this compare exercise. Yours are good! No need to be so humble. ;)

[@fenny1578]

Greg, have you tried Contention? It lets you fly the ww2 birds in a more scenario based environment against all sorts of modern stuff. It keeps them off the auto EWR as well, so you can be a sneaky little demon hunting helos. Running the FW-190A against Apaches is some of the most pure fun I've had with DCS this year.

[@mytube001]

I played an old flight combat game called "Dogfight" back in the early 90s. It had aircraft from six different eras (WW1, WW2, Korean War, early Cold War, mid Cold War, late Cold War), two from each "side", and you could set up custom scenarios where you could fly a Fokker Dr.1 against an F-16 or a Spitfire against a Harrier. This video reminded me of that.

[@tobiasfreitag2182]

Oh i remember that one!!! I had a great time playing it as a kid...

[@markr.1984]

Nice to see him compete with Growling Sidewinder channel a little! Nice mix of different stuff now. Me likes it.

[@stevehofer3482]

I would love to see you and a p-47 buddy doing cooperative weaving in P-47s in a mixed era fight. It would be interesting to see if you could protect each other’s sixes.

[@cptkev]

Hi Greg, from the UK. Please can you, or maybe you have already, show the physical set-up you use on DCS, I'd love to see what you're actually using to control these beauties.... Also, love the idea of you being a pilot of a plane I'm on. "Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking, we've just been hit by an F14, that's not good....."!!

[@Riccardo_Silva]

Greg dying: "good bye and have a great day" BOOOM! 🤣🤣🤣 What an entertaining video, Greg! Thank you and have a GREAT 2025!!!!

[@t44e6]

My father saw a lot of P-47s in Brazil postwar when he was working in the Cosmic Ray Research B-29 project. I have some good pics of them, often wearing mismatched parts with an interesting mix of partial markings. I may try replicating one 8n scale.

[@dukecraig2402]

My friend was involved with importing MIG23's from an ex Com Bloc country, like Bulgaria, Romania or one of those places, you could tell they were running out of money, they had wings or the tail from one installed on another as the paint was faded to different levels and some markings didn't jive with the rest on a few of them, it was very obvious that they were taking parts off the least desirable ones to keep the best examples flying, some had no instruments in the panels from them being cannibalized for use in others, only one had an engine that was still within its service life in the batch they got in when I went to visit him. He'd actually gone over there once to meet with people, he said their airbase looked deserted, the lawns around the buildings obviously hadn't been mowed all summer and looked like a field, the hallways through the buildings looked like they hadn't been mopped and waxed since Brezhnev was the party chairman, they obviously had very little money and had to scrimp and save, including selling the MIG23's to get the MIG29's they were replacing them with. And you just know in a situation like that they don't have the money for fuel and maintenance to afford any kind of training time, once they get checked out in something their once a month 2 hour flight they get to take is just taking off and landing basically, any real maneuvers and the maintenance would go beyond budget, you just know they wouldn't last long in combat from not having any serious stick time.

[@t44e6]

I really enjoy your DCS videos and would enjoy seeing more longer ones.

[@Phenom98]

I've watched and enjoyed your muscle car and aviation videos. Glad to see you do DCS too. Cheers

[@monostripeexplosiveexplora2374]

The thunderbolt is just a very fun thing! "Senta a pua!"

[@herbertpocket8855]

Great video! Fun concept and excellent execution!

[@bagocross08]

Looks like you upgraded your hardware! It's so much more pleasant to fly with high FPS. Excellent flying!

[@MrRobertX70]

That emergency landing (after the F18 got you) was bad ass!

[@victormiranda9163]

go get 'em, Tiger!

[@Fox3-Luck]

Nice flying! I love the WW2 planes as well

[@0giwan]

I feel like Habitual Linecrosser would get a lot of roast material from this.

[@sir0herrbatka]

Everybody knows that this does not work, so nobody does that, so nobody expects it when you do it, so it does work.

[@x_womanslayer_x]

If you see something with a prop, exploit the vertical, even some of the early jets (in real life and in dcs) are able to out climb WW2 props, if you manage to stay outside wez, you should win every time. Not easy to do in a group battle/acm scenario as you may loose situational awareness or get target fixated.

[@sir0herrbatka]

@@x_womanslayer_x And stay fast. Jets stall way before a prop. If you just try to do low speed rate fight you will eventually loose. Thing is, those poor guys were not taking into account that there could be a thunderbolt out there.

[@GeneralJackRipper]

Precisely.

[@AndrewMurrell]

The instant blackout at certain altitudes while pulling Gs is a bug in DCS for some aircraft. Don't know if they quite worked it out on all airframes.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Is it? I didn't know that but it makes sense. I'll have to try it in the F-14 to see if it's the same.

[@Kelvin3531]

No, it's not a bug. If you pull G too abruptly, GLOC will happen before any visual signs (GLOS). It's a well known in RL physiological feature.

[@AndrewMurrell]

@Kelvin3531 there was one on the srike eagle and another airframe that even at low G and only at a particular altitude and lower this would happen. Sure, quick onstantaneous G onset can cause this, but it didn't look that abrut te me.

[@foreverpinkf.7603]

Well, that was fun to watch. Old habits die hard.

[@briansmithwins]

it's kinda a lose-lose for the other players: if they win it's 'you shot down a WWII plane in a modern jet, so what, you want a cookie?' if they lose it's 'you got shot down by a WWII relic, haha!'

[@GeneralJackRipper]

I believe you.

[@GeneralJackRipper]

This reminds me of my days flying an He-51 in War Thunder.

[@dukecraig2402]

Although i don't have DCS and probably never will this certainly was entertaining and well worth watching, and eye opening, so much for the deniers that say the incidents where the Taiwanese flying P47's were shooting down Chinese jets isn't true, this at least demonstrates that it's mathematically possible, as it's a computer simulation and being such everything is reduced to mathmetics (which rule the world anyway), you took those jets down like a boss.

[@solarflare623]

Could you talk about the hawker typhoon/tempest and its Napier Sabre engine?

[@lewiswestfall2687]

Thanks Greg

[@nightshade7745]

0:51 that’s a MiG-29 not a Su-27

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Oh, you're right.

[@triverbike1368]

Plus it looks like an Ukrainian bird too… 😶

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I'm not sure about the nationality, still a commie bird either way.

[@nightshade7745]

The marking appears to be Ukrainian Well they are also the ones who suffered the most under the commie regime

[@ThomasHendrickson]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles well the Ukrainian MiG-29s are blue air, and judging by the Brazilian scheme of your P-47, you were red air, so technically weren't YOU the commie bird?

[@_Ariel7]

Il2 Stormivick does a good job of generating a partial black out, ie, vision beginning to blur, periperal vision fading, breathing irregularity, which is more realistic than such a sudden all at once black out; unless you pull massive G's quickly, then you can be overcome with such a black out. I think DCS should add a more nuanced modelling, seems as if this is a game interference situation.

[@Ravn_Wingman52]

Can't hold back the Jug! Haha, I like servers with a big mix of a planeset :)

[@edwardsmith6609]

I wonder if Growling Sidewinder will be watching this, lol.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

For some reason I doubt it. With the number of videos he puts out, and the time it takes to do that, I don't think he has much time.

[@ThomasHendrickson]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles I understand that its not likely to happen, but it would really be something to watch you fight in the P-47 against him in the 109, he seems convinced that the p47 is pretty much useless.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

He said the Anton and P-47 were a good match. I would take that fight for sure, the 109K4 is tough to be though.

[@JorgeOrtizIII]

My thoughts exactly! 😂

[@ThomasHendrickson]

@ I suppose that's a fair statement, I've noticed that the Bf109K4 seems to be a little overpowered. However I do remember watching you outturn one on at low altitude in another video, the was cathartic to watch.

[@calaiscruiser]

that was bloody fantastic!

[@itowmyhome797]

Thank you

[@dansid]

4:24 in Flightgear the blackout is progressive, the screen starts getting black from the edges to the center

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

It all happens in about the blink of an eye. It's nothing like that in real life.

[@MegaWebsters]

I've seen on here on DCS where the pilots screen periphery greys gradually from outside in when you over G. So yes, it could just be a setting?

[@PaxAlotin]

It's embarrassing when Top-Gun gets smoked by Grand Pa. 😆

[@muskepticsometimes9133]

wow !! In your P47 series you talk about Taiwanese P47's vs PRC Mig-15s . . . . but F16 ?

[@localbod]

Growling Sidewinder has been doing this for quite a while: WW2 warbirds versus modern aircraft such as F22, F16, F14, A10, etc...

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Not in a Thunderbolt, and not in a multiplayer arena against a large number of foes. He does fly WW2 planes in DCS, and does do a good job.

[@brockmiller574]

​@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobilesI think he has said that he's no good in a P-47.

[@logancaudill1438]

what're you trying to say? he cant do it?

[@GeneralJackRipper]

​@@logancaudill1438no he's saying a 1v1 with your best friend ain't the same thing.

[@ziggyinc]

note to self "Do not get into a turn fight with GregHF!"

[@noneofyourbusiness2997]

Or grab a Gloster Gladiator 😁

[@thomasharvanek2411]

Did you say you got some farts in the Mirage's general direction? 😆

[@richdurbin6146]

It looks like pilot quality here follows Sturgeon’s Law. Most of them are shot down because they’re making errors.

[@x_womanslayer_x]

Usually how it works, absolutely right

[@boaltie10]

Seems like a lot of players on DCS and IL-2 focus entirely on 1v1. It would be interesting to see videos with players in less maneuverable aircraft teaming up for 2v1 using tactics like the Thach weave.

[@HiT-ww2tube]

Loved. This. 😅😊😂

[@birdburb8766]

looks like we need to have a chat - Stickless, a buddy of reload and Tabs

[@M.R.0662]

Hi Greg! Happy new year 🎉 I love this type of video when an old ww2 era fighter is fighting head to head against modern jets. So pls in the future can you do another video like this on other propeller driven aircraft like the FW-190? Furthermore I want to ask this for six months, for your super prop series can we have an episode on the Soviet Lavochkin La-9 I REALLY REALLY want to know how this plane compared to the best super prop of other nation.

[@mr.sorrow8025]

Can you do a video on ammo belts and/or convergence? I’ve always struggled to find primary sources on what belts were used. with convergence I just don’t know the history anymore than usually it’ll say in a manual what the plane would set its convergence to

[@kennethwilson1140]

What prop driven fighters lack in speed and power, they excel in maneuverability in a turning fight against jet fighters... Jet against jet you have a fair chance (depending on the match up) in a turning fight but a jet will usually not be able to turn with a prop driven plane as prop driven fighters can fly slower than the stall speed of the jet, you have to use the jet's ability to accelerate and either go vertical or extend out horizontally and come back in a slashing pass. Dog-fighting is not just about being a better pilot but also knowing the strengths of the enemies equipment and exploiting their weaknesses to your advantage. Most aces got the majority of their kills by catching the "other guy" napping on the job (caught by surprise).

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Absolutely, and if you notice, I was shot down four times in this video and never in a turn fight with an opponent I was aware of.

[@jfiery]

What server were you in Greg? If DCS ever comes out with a P38 I think that I would be flying that 95% of the time.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

mobettameta dogfight server, or something like that.

[@jfiery]

@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles thanks Greg,

[@2ndfloorsongs]

That wasn't the plane you thought it was, it was either another one or one just like it. (just for the algorithm) :)

[@ndensham]

Love this!

[@graybushx]

The first kill was a mig 29. still a very dangerous fighter.

[@jeebusk]

the g-force feedback issue ~4:00 should be able to be represented

[@jager6863]

Aircraft have to play to their strengths. Getting in any kind of a turning match with a slow prop job is just stupid. A jet aircraft just needs to dive on it's prey, fire, climb and repeat if needed. The prop job can't match the climb rate of a "Zoom and Boom" attack and certainly can't speed away or hide in a cloud, as the radar will find them. A WW2 fighter would have zero chance of survival. Fun to watch, but bad tactics leads to bad results.

[@ZealothPL]

The problem is...once you're in the sauce it's often too late and the "solution" is to not get in that situation in the first place

[@HernanMoragaMmHs]

that's crazy

[@iflycentral]

The F-5 can be really fun on those guns only PvP servers.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Hi Central, I'll bet you're right, but I don't have the F-5 and I didn't see anyone there using it.

[@zloychechen5150]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles because it sucks ass.

[@JETZcorp]

The F-5 is also an absolute hoot on open BVR servers like Growling Sidewinder. With good use of the terrain and the notch, you can really break some hearts. It's a hard game, but man is it satisfying to kill an F-16 that has no idea you're there.

[@jonathanrobinson7573]

@Greg: What fuel loads are you using in the P-47? In DCS how differently does various fuel loads affect the maneuverability of the P-47?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I thought I talked about that, but maybe not in all the chaos. There is no choice here you start with what the server gives you, which in all the planes is about 20mins of fuel at combat power. The server is so violent that the odds of living long enough to use up that much fuel are pretty close to zero.

[@jocrp6]

Ever played Aces High?

[@TorquilBletchleySmythe]

Have you tried lowering your gear before ditching on the airfield? Maybe landing wheels down without exploding will let you refuel and rearm.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

You can refuel or rearm either way, but if you landed gear up you will also have to repair.

[@timking2822]

Great humor.

[@N238E]

1940s fighter plane tech was 1990s car tech.

[@przemo1000x]

This tells something on practical side of the low energy combat maneuver so appreciated by the russians ;)

[@FoxtrotYouniform]

does DCS have the P40? The Warhawk is and will always be my all time favorite piston driven aircraft. Not saying it the best. Just my favorite.

[@manny2ndamendment246]

Greg, can you design a piston engined airplane that can exceed mach 1?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Do you mean piston engine, or propeller driven? Those are two different things, and highly relevant.

[@manny2ndamendment246]

@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles both. Piston engine and propeller driven. I saw a concept aircraft called the intrepid air racer which could go 590mph in theory and it's basically just a super prop.

[@matthewl6565]

I'd be interested in a video on that (maybe keep it broader to propeller driven)

[@rbasomb]

Now im curious of which is the aircraft that is piston powered but not propeller driven.

[@clarkenoble]

​@rbasomb He is probably referring mostly to aircraft that are propeller driven, but NOT piston powered. Turboprops are propeller driven but NOT piston powered. Check out the Tu-95 bomber which is quite fast for a propeller driven aircraft. However, to answer your question, yes, there was a piston powered aircraft that did NOT use a propeller. The Caproni Campini N.1, was a pre-WWII experimental aircraft designed to explore jet turbine concepts. It used a piston engine to drive the compressor to provide thrust. Have a great day!

[@Classic_Frog]

If both sides can fly whatever planes they want how do you even keep track in the air who's on which side? I can't seem to make out paint jobs until you basically fly past the other plane, let alone when you're far away and only just closing in.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Great question. There are little blue and red "carrots" over each plane, which are easy to see online but somehow they don't seem to show up after the video is put up on youtube. I don't know why not.

[@Lazengogh]

Hey still planning on doing the ww1 stuff and evaluation of Il2 flying circus flight characteristics etc?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I'm going as fast as I can.

[@jonathanrobinson7573]

@Greg- Shouldn’t Negative G’s produce Red-Outs instead of Blackouts???

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Yes. I didn't feel the need to pick on DCS on that issue too much. It's overall and amazing sim and I think people tend to focus too much on the small potatoes stuff.

[@markst.germain9286]

I love the P-47.

[@nuttyDesignAndFab]

do you happen to be colorblind? you get a visual grey effect before passing out, can you not let off on the stick at that point?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

You can, but it's not gradual, it goes from there to full blacked out. In reality it closes in on you at a pretty linear rate. In DCS as soon as it starts to go grey, you pull any more and it goes black instantly, and in negative G, you get no warning, just black out.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

As an example, IL2 really does a good job with this. It fades to black as the G load increases so you can modulate it closer to the limit as you can in reality.

[@jakubl8271]

One thing puzzles me - how to determine, whether a bunch of pixels is friend or foe?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

The teams are color coded with little icons above the planes. For some reason it doesn't show up when put on youtube.

[@BrokenFarmer]

Server looks great. Which one is it?

[@phantomraven5044]

Tbh, I think DCS should add a G-indicator like IL-2 does. It doesn’t necessarily have to show the number of G’s but maybe the more you pull the more the bar fills up or something.

[@lawrencemeadonia7500]

Seems a bit intrusive to have a display G indicator. Funny enough, War Thunder's method of gradual screen coloration seems to work well at this. DCS is just too abruptly locking the pilot out.

[@phantomraven5044]

@ you know, I have thought a bit more on it. I like the g-indicator alot. It is the only ui element I keep on my screen during il-2 but an indicator doesnt solve the problem of not being able to feel the g’s. Instead, I noticed while playing il-2 some more is that their pilot breathing is just INFINITELY superior to DCS! It by far makes the player notice just how hard the g’s are. In DCS (just got off playing pvp with the p-51) there is hardly any breathing at all. Only when u are approaching 8gs did I hear breathing. I think a better solution is for DCS to update their audio scape and make different strains of breathing for the pilot. We want it to not be repetitive af but some balance between none and alot should be struck. Maybe heavy nose breathing to mouth breathing to combat breathing etc etc.

[@lawrencemeadonia7500]

@phantomraven5044 Yah, something audible might be the best compromise. Hopefully DCS does more to improve gameplay instead of just modeling physics and planes.

[@zadinzadin]

1:22 "baddies"...? 🤨

[@TR_P]

He has attracted attention to himself from these baddies 😈

[@GeneralJackRipper]

_"Are we the baddies?"_

[@zadinzadin]

@@TR_P well, there are anime girl versions of the aircraft he's fighting in the vid so...

[@wbertie2604]

Maybe for G forces, a seat with a harness that tightens would be the thing. I am sure someone with an Arduino and some motors could do it, but you'd want to be very confident about your failsafe conditions should the DCS program crash when you are at high Gs. It would be easier to build than a tillting chair or something like that and be more haptically similar, if only slightly, than a butt kicker or something.

[@wingracer1614]

Just for purposes of maximizing gameplay, not realism, all you need is some sort of indication. It could be a vibration, tone, or just some sort of warning graphic on the screen.

[@wbertie2604]

@@wingracer1614 Yes, in terms of getting an indication, a butt kicker would be suffcient (you'd want it to be distinct from force feedback on the stick) but perhaps psychologically something different would be more immersive. Plus I was trying to inject a little humour into the discussion.

[@Onceayoungidiot]

Why don’t they simulate g load with tunnel vision on the optics? That’s what tends to happen IRL, rather than just suddenly black out.

[@Kuschel_K]

Modern Jets are like 25% Engine and 70% fuel tanks. Can’t imagine .50cals having any effect on a Jet unless you get a pilot snipe 🤔 Maybe shred an engine real good.