M2 Mac Studio VS M2 Mac mini - DON'T BE FOOLED!

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GregsGadgets

GregsGadgets

11 ай бұрын

Apple now has a big range of desktop computers designed for the pro audience not only with the new M2 Max Mac Studio and M2 Pro, but also with the M2 Pro Mac mini which was released half a year ago. However, with the introduction of the M2 Max Mac Studio... is the M2 pro Mac mini now obsolete and why is Apple selling a Mac mini version that's priced higher than the Mac Studio?
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@MrJamidon
@MrJamidon 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for being the first KZbinr who compared the base models of these machines. Everyone else is comparing the fully loaded versions, and I'm never going to be able to afford those kind of machines. This is exactly what I was looking for, great job.
@DavidRiano95
@DavidRiano95 11 ай бұрын
He didn't compared exactly the base models because the mini was upgraded both in ram and storage and that actually impacts how the softwares utilize resources. The Mac mini he is comparing even has two more thunderbolt USB-C ports that the base model.
@ront335
@ront335 11 ай бұрын
@@DavidRiano95 Yes he did compare two base models. He compared the base Mac Studio to the base model Mac Mini Pro, not the base model Mac Mini.
@Evie0133
@Evie0133 11 ай бұрын
@@DavidRiano95 The base M2 Pro Mac Mini has 16GB of RAM, 512GB of SSD and 4 Thunderbolt ports, what are you talking about lol
@apocolypse11
@apocolypse11 9 ай бұрын
Poor people always complaining instead of working.
@beefwantko7269
@beefwantko7269 8 ай бұрын
thank this idiot for highly misleading the people watching his channel.. One of these are the "BASE MODEL" they are in fact the top tier model just with out the extra storage which cost an arm and a leg... thats like saying the Iphone 15 pro, and Iphone 15 pro max are the base models.. the only thing basic about these are the storage. The real base model of the Mac Mini is $599... thats over twice as cheap as what you are claiming. and the base model of the Mac studio is in fact 1999 dollars. so your compairing the Best Mac mini too the worst Mac studio.. and Just FYI if your thinking about getting a Mac dont forget that the monitor they sell for these is 1300 dollars... more then a current Imac.. do yourself a favor if yoru going to buy a mac mini.. and buy last gens Imac that still has the intell chip in it and the dedicated graphcis card its faster, cheaper and includes a monitor a good one at that.. the New colorfull ones are essentially Large Ipads on stands.. same processor in them check it out... its sad they got rid of the real Imacs.. becase now they can pull this BS and charge 1300 dollars for their base monitor.. and I think the Pro monitor is over 5000 dollars.
@bitMAN
@bitMAN 8 ай бұрын
This is an amazing comparison. You make the differences and use cases very clear with no added noise to the key points. Oh man, I wish all video comparisons where like this 😌
@dejavuking
@dejavuking 11 ай бұрын
Omg thank you gosh finally someone has done this comparison. Arguably the most important comparison for 99% of people. Loads of channels have compared the two but not both base specs, they all have upgraded SSD or ram. So this is going to be the best video I think and it’s from someone reliable to this is going to be my premier advice video and the one I’ll recommend to everyone.
@regularsteven
@regularsteven 11 ай бұрын
Great summary - before the M2 Studio came out, I was seriously torn between the full-spec Mini Pro and M1 Studio Max. But, as you point out, this is now a no-brainer. I've got the M2 Studio Max (base model), and this thing has so much grunt. The reviews everywhere on full-spec Studio Ultra's are just not real-world for most people. The challenge for me, now, as a programmer, is to try figure out what code I can abstract out to leverage the GPU cores rather than CPU. Fun times :) EDIT: Studio ALSO has support for more monitors, too. Just another little thing that could be a big thing if you need it...
@siddantsharma3681
@siddantsharma3681 7 ай бұрын
is mac studio good for atmos mixing mastering??
@ridinglow6732
@ridinglow6732 7 ай бұрын
@@siddantsharma3681most definitely
@FoxxFire
@FoxxFire 11 ай бұрын
Just want to mention, this has been the most helpful video comparing directly the three exact system configs I'm considering. Having these benchmarks between the exact variants I'm looking at -- i haven't seen that anywhere else. Thank you Sheriff Gadget :)
@GregsGadgets
@GregsGadgets 11 ай бұрын
Howdy 🤠 I mean… you’re welcome
@k.o.t.o.n.
@k.o.t.o.n. 10 ай бұрын
@@GregsGadgets hy. here the mini base is 300 thousand forints, studio base 980 thousand forints.
@theociba3762
@theociba3762 4 ай бұрын
You and me both...I am literally looking these two platforms with different configs. all week. The ultra is too much horsepower for me, but the mini as mentioned with 16GB is ideal for a business profesional and academic. Thanks for putting this together !
@northridgeanimalmedicalcen3987
@northridgeanimalmedicalcen3987 7 ай бұрын
Your work just makes so much sense... getting to the core issues in a clear, concise manner. THANK YOU
@gfabasic
@gfabasic 11 ай бұрын
Was looking at the Mac Mini Pro until Apple dropped the M2 Mac Studio. Ended up getting the base model M2 Mac Studio for exactly the reasons you mentioned. I also need the SD card reader so adding that on factored into it as well.
@gouhlgambit6296
@gouhlgambit6296 9 ай бұрын
I have been weighing this choice up for ages now , so thanks in your video. Lots of good points. I think I’m still siding with the mini, 32 gb ram and 1tb ssd, but with the 10 core chip. I’m coming from a 2018 i7 Mac mini so the performance is literally double. I would rather prioritise read/write speed with the SSD and up the ram. I’m using this for music production exclusively so the added GpU cores of the studio don’t really give me much value, the extra ports on the front would be largely unused. So I can’t really see any extra value to going for the studio model this time.
@stevens6654
@stevens6654 9 ай бұрын
Good summary. Another comparison is more difficult to estimate - the price of future-proofing. It's a good idea to factor in the long-term usability of your computer. I was able to significantly increase the value of my gear by increasing the RAM to well above the minimum, and getting storage that anticipated my potential use. Beginning with a "base" model may not be your best choice.
@ruzaroos
@ruzaroos 11 ай бұрын
Only get the base model and let your RAM requirements dictate your choice of SKU. 8GB enough, get the base Mini. You need 16GB, get the Mini Pro. You need 32GB, get the Studio. You need 64GB, get the Studio Ultra. If you need more than 64GB, you can afford to upgrade the Studio Ultra.
@Rotwold
@Rotwold 9 ай бұрын
PSA: If you want to use it for work and future proof the machine (>4 years) - pick a model with a minimum of 16GB ram. It doesn't matter how fancy the OSX memory management is, having more capacity is always beneficial to the machines performance. Being limited by memory capacity will result in crashes, freezes and a bad experience.
@sierpus
@sierpus 5 ай бұрын
I don’t need more power, so I’m taking mini with 16GB, not mini pro.
@briancharamuga2907
@briancharamuga2907 5 ай бұрын
8GB is not enough. Excessive swapping eventually kills your SSD.
@inspiredartphotos
@inspiredartphotos 5 ай бұрын
@@briancharamuga2907you are so right my IMac Pro is starting to give out of memory messages. It came with a 1TB drive and 32GB of Physical RAM. The problem is constant memory swaps has degraded the SSD Drive. I keep archiving and running minimal items on the internal SSD drive. I am really tired of sealed cases and soldered on drives. Great point you brought up.
@Fee.1
@Fee.1 5 ай бұрын
@@inspiredartphotosI forgot iMac Pros existed. Have you tried workarounds?
@AmauryJacquot
@AmauryJacquot 10 ай бұрын
there is one parameter that may make the mac mini preferable: you can fit 2 of those mac minis in a 1U rack, whereas you need 3U for the mac studio. that may be important in some settings (say in video trucks) where volume is at a premium
@outerusing
@outerusing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing, this is exactly the kind of comparison I was looking for!!
@corikomiyama7492
@corikomiyama7492 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! I have been looking at the Macbook Air vs Mac Mini (I have an intel Macbook Pro right now) and the whole "keeping it in clamshell mode" while hooked up to an external monitor totally hit me lol. This helped to me to see that I haven't even considered the Mac Studio. Without this video I probably would have upgraded my memory and storage on the Mac Mini not even realizing I'd get a way better value with the Studio! Thank you so much!
@vintage0x
@vintage0x 11 ай бұрын
2:27 wo0o0o0oah man said "reLEVAtion"
@exavion3364
@exavion3364 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 thought I was the only one who noticed this
@gerardowmby7156
@gerardowmby7156 2 ай бұрын
@@exavion3364 He was thinking "relative" comparison.
@riddym3197
@riddym3197 Ай бұрын
looool that threw me off - a little easter egg there
@Greg-bu7mi
@Greg-bu7mi 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! Great comparison on value vs price. Information was straight forward and easily understood
@mgjansen777
@mgjansen777 11 ай бұрын
Thanks exactly the information I needed!
@MartinLutherMcCoy
@MartinLutherMcCoy 11 ай бұрын
I went with the mini. Maxed out. I wish I had the maxed out studio but I’m glad I have kept my additional 3k$ and I haven’t seen a pinwheel since. Nuff yappin’ now get busy and make something ✊🏾
@speedee7508
@speedee7508 10 ай бұрын
You presented the info very logically. Great video!
@joelchalk597
@joelchalk597 22 күн бұрын
The examples for this comparison were great! Very important for video editors to understand how fast their exporting takes.
@alistairmcelwee7467
@alistairmcelwee7467 8 ай бұрын
I bought one of each this week. Studio mine, Mini is other half. I came to same conclusion as you've done but still experimenting with them. Thanks for exactly the video I needed!
@BassHeadsProduction
@BassHeadsProduction Ай бұрын
you like losing money to apple?
@bassyboii
@bassyboii 10 ай бұрын
Just picked up a base mac studio and it is insane. Coming from a very powerful i7 27” iMac with 40gb of ram, the studio is a hefty upgrade in terms of performance.
@transitengineer
@transitengineer 11 ай бұрын
A big thank you, for this video comparison between the base model M-2 "mac mini" Pro and the base model M-2 "Mac Studio". I agree with almost 100 percent of your comments. While, the "Mac Studio" is better in performance in every way. I still prefer the smaller "mac mini" Pro profile, design, and looks. For my current desktop set-up using a 2010, Apple 27-inch Cinema LED (none thunderbolt) display. My 2014, space gray "trash can" Mac Pro sits neatly behind the monitor and my 2010, "mac mini" (the last model with a built-in DVD super-drive) fits neatly under my monitor. Once Apple added the four thunderbolt four (4) ports to the "mac mini" Pro, it became the only M-2 desktop for my future needs (smile...smile).
@howanblaze
@howanblaze 11 ай бұрын
Love the explanation, and breaking everything down!
@mattbosley3531
@mattbosley3531 11 ай бұрын
I do not understand why, in a computer with 32GB of memory and an M2 Max processor, Apple handicaps it with a half speed SSD. You still have to pay $200 to upgrade to 1TB if you want decent speed from your storage in the Mac Studio.
@Momdoc
@Momdoc 10 ай бұрын
Agree 💯 %. I was between studio and Mac mini upgraded version. It’s frustrating, the price was the same. Thank God I decided to spend £200 more and buy base M2 max studio with storage upgrade only. I am happy.
@bryans8656
@bryans8656 11 ай бұрын
The M2 Pro Mac mini wasn't an option when I purchased my base model M1 Studio Max last year. Had it been the money savings would have been very tempting, but I'm glad I went with the Studio for all the reasons you cited in this video.
@emilsecker7881
@emilsecker7881 11 ай бұрын
What do you use the studio for? How are you dealing with 512GB of storage?
@bryans8656
@bryans8656 11 ай бұрын
@@emilsecker7881 I use it mostly for video editing, image editing, typical prosumer usage, in addition to the usual day-to-day stuff. It's more than I really need but I like having the additional overhead. 512GB of storage has been plenty because I have it connected to a 2TB NAS.
@emilsecker7881
@emilsecker7881 11 ай бұрын
@@bryans8656 gotcha. Nice
@c0rnd0g_19
@c0rnd0g_19 11 ай бұрын
Same here. I had a 16GB M1 Mini and needed more RAM as well as native support for 3 displays. I was hoping for an M1 Pro Mini, but the Studio came out instead. I don't regret buying it one bit, this thing has been an absolute beast!
@6806goats1
@6806goats1 10 ай бұрын
Same here. My 2018 Intel i7 mini did what I needed but I wanted more ports than the M1 mini. Lost my mind and no need at present to buy a Studio Ultra but I did anyway. Refurbished M1 Ultra base model (64Gb ram, 1 Tb SSD), military/student discount kind thing. When they came out with the M2 Ultra it was like don't bother, I'm covered for a very long time. Refurb Studio display with the fancy covering but found it with the VESA no stand option. Should fit inside my roll top desk when I get it back to the house. I work overseas, maybe another year or so.
@FireMunki63
@FireMunki63 19 күн бұрын
Great Video, I was looking at the option of a maxed out version of MacMini M2 Pro before realizing like you that why not the Studio with the 30 Cores? Makes so much sense.
@tvpstvps5785
@tvpstvps5785 11 ай бұрын
Did you say “relevation” - that’s definitely stuck in my head now
@HomesickMac
@HomesickMac 8 ай бұрын
Great video Greg! I'm defo waiting for the next Apple event to see which Mac I'll be upgrading to from my trusty M1 Mini from 2020. It still serves me well, but I'd need that GPU for the video workflow of editing and exporting. It's going to be a Mac Studio if I decide for the stationery, but I'm also considering going over to doing everything from a laptop. I used to do it before and my last laptop was a MacBook Pro Intel 2018, totally maxed out but still left in the dust by the M1 mini..
@jeffhale1189
@jeffhale1189 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing: very helpful. Blessings on your day!
@TijuanaJackson
@TijuanaJackson 3 ай бұрын
Great video. Appreciate your perspective.
@bigpix
@bigpix 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this very informative video. When you take the M3 chip into account, like on the new iMacs, is it still better to get the M2 chip on these for video editing? Also, what display(s) would you recommend? Thanks!
@crxgator
@crxgator 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I picked up my M2 Pro Mini the other month with the educator's discount, and I'm kind of like meh. It's been wonderful considering that I was on a late 2013 27" iMac for the past 9 years. But, now I feel like I should've went with the base studio. Plus mine seems to be very loud when having Lightroom open, and music playing. I filled out the survey for Apple about, and have yet to hear back from them on why my computer is so loud with just those two programs open.
@theociba3762
@theociba3762 4 ай бұрын
Good input - I too have the 27" from 2013 and it's crawling. I was going to get the m2 w/16 and was concerned about the same, although I won't be pushing it other then drone videos and marketing papers & Microsoft 365. The only concern I have is I won't have a monitor for the Studio or something similar.
@mcdazz2011
@mcdazz2011 11 ай бұрын
Great video. Given the almost entry level specs of the M2 Mac Mini, particularly so in relation to only having 8GB of RAM, I'm really struggling to understand why anyone would be interested in even an up-spec'd version of the M2 Mac Mini. Price wise, It's actually embarrassing because the value is not there compared to the M2 Mac Studio.
@buddyclements8457
@buddyclements8457 8 ай бұрын
Hey! Thank YOU! Super informative! Great suggestions too! You’ve helped me decide! Mac Studio for me and my music studio!
@bhargan
@bhargan 11 ай бұрын
random question. Why does the Mac Studio white light in the front keep flashing? That would be super annoying if that is the case since its in the front of the unit. Please advise.
@carboncarbonx43
@carboncarbonx43 19 күн бұрын
I chose the Mac Mini M2 Pro w 32GB ram because of its wonderful small form factor. I regularly render large batches of video with FCP-X and have no problems at all. Scrubbing with reckless abandon is so satisfying.
@torb-no
@torb-no 11 ай бұрын
I went with the base M2 Pro mini, but upgraded the ram to 32GB. I simply don’t need more than that. It’s still cheaper than the base Studio, and with the ridicilous Apple prices in Norway every little bit makes a difference. I also really appreciate the smaller physical size. Makes it easier to handle and turn plug the monitor (I often switch my monitor betwen my mini for home usage and macbook for work.) In a sense I think Apple kinda charged a high premium for high-ish specs in smaller packages.
@transitengineer
@transitengineer 11 ай бұрын
Well, you may be right. Because, for my needs if the base M-2 "mac mini" came with four (4) thunderbolt ports, I might be looking to buy that model instead of the M-2 "mac mini" Pro version (smile...smile).
@randommiker
@randommiker 11 ай бұрын
I've never needed more than 8GB of system memory with the M1 even with loads of plug-ins using Logic Pro X. This largely due to how efficient and fast the memory is as unified system compared to a traditional motherboard. This would be entirely different with CGI or very GPU demanding applications in which your average Apple user doesn't even know what that means outside of "gaming". The reality is that most Apple users are completely ignorant to what really makes a computer a complete workstation all-around in which Apple has yet to provide due the companies lack of native applications that actually benefit from GPU acceleration. Personally, i love Mac but only for audio work, at least for now.
@johnh383
@johnh383 10 ай бұрын
Get a PC and feel like you didnt get ripped off!
@torb-no
@torb-no 10 ай бұрын
​@@johnh383 I grew up on non-Apple PCs and I've given it more than my share of chances and the UI of the operating systems generally drive me up a wall. Additionally the kind of computer I want would typically make the kind of tradeoffs Apple make anyway. I want something small, I want something quiet, I dont' need the most graphics performance (but I do need good single perf CPU). As for value, I think the Mac mini specifically is fairly good value actually (this is backed up by other reviews as well), it's more when you get into Mac Studio or you need graphics performance the value proposition falls apart. That said, I *am* looking to get a PC specifically for gaming, but since I don't want a big tower PC but something more compact yet still powerful enough for gaming that's probably going to be kinda expensive too (which is why I'll probably have to save up for a long time).
@mmjay7078
@mmjay7078 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@johnh383Until your pc takes a crap and you find out you really did😂😂
@photographerjonathan
@photographerjonathan 3 ай бұрын
Is there a great 32 or bigger monitor to go with the Mac studio without buying an expensive Mac 32 monitor. but still really good quality. for photoshop and final cut and Logic Pro. and is there an upgrade for the Mac studio that is worth getting for my needs. thanks.
@biancanera
@biancanera 11 ай бұрын
I watch this on my 2011 iMac still working. What do you think about upgrade for Mac studio?
@johnhjic2
@johnhjic2 11 ай бұрын
Hi, On all honesty I am find it so hard to choose a Mac Studio or a Mac Mini to replace my old 27" 5k iMac, I am sure both would be good. Bit my thinking is a £3999 for the Mac Studio should last me longer, or go cheep and replace more often. choices?
@Imagineyourmusiccom
@Imagineyourmusiccom 11 ай бұрын
thank you very much for this review, so what would you recommend for music composition with a lot of orchestral VST instruments?
@lah_deza
@lah_deza Ай бұрын
Interior designer here trying to figure out if I should get the mac mini or studio. I would need to use Sketchup, Cad, Adobe, and film editing software's. Which one should I get?
@bennym1956
@bennym1956 11 ай бұрын
I use my Macs til they die then upgrade. Currently,my 2017 27" Intel iMac is still fine for my needs. Was considering the M2 Mac Mini, but see your point. I like to game so the M2 Mac Studio is making more sense and possible longevity ! Was hoping for a new M2-3 27" iMac !!
@enriqueruiz4751
@enriqueruiz4751 11 ай бұрын
Awesome presentation thanks
@Glen.Danielsen
@Glen.Danielsen 11 ай бұрын
Greg, so happy I ran across your excellent channel! Thankful new subscriber here. Coolness and helpfulness. Salutes good brother! 🫡
@jmcampbell
@jmcampbell 11 ай бұрын
0:38 I like the Mac Mini on top of the Mac Studio. They look cool together. I wonder if you could connect them together somehow to increase performance. Would this be called the Big Mac 😅
@NeoAiR
@NeoAiR 11 ай бұрын
Lool
@MarknSydney
@MarknSydney 11 ай бұрын
only if you put 2 all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, pickles, and onion between them. LOL
@Worthfishing
@Worthfishing 6 ай бұрын
Just get the ultra and you’ll end up with a whopper.😂😂😂
@DerekZimmer
@DerekZimmer 10 ай бұрын
Great analysis as usual!
@josephcarrasco3428
@josephcarrasco3428 11 ай бұрын
Can you do base M2 mini vs the new M2 studio? I’d love to see if there’s actually a huge difference between those 2 & if it’s worth the upgrade
@spiritfilledstudy
@spiritfilledstudy 10 ай бұрын
Do you have an entry level m2 mac mini vs the m2 pro mac mini? Would be curious if the media engine allows it to hold up for video editing.
@jpwministries
@jpwministries Күн бұрын
excellent video; I am hoping that I can get a Mac Studio soon to edit my videos. Right now I am doing the editing with my phone, but if I am going to eventually do 4K videos, I need to step it up when it comes to my equipment. Great video.
@gerardowmby7156
@gerardowmby7156 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! I'm getting the Studio.
@laurentsauvagnac
@laurentsauvagnac 6 ай бұрын
this desk that you got !!!! do you by chance have any link to the headphone woodlike "hanger" and the small "table" under your screen ? thx !!
@papa.mike01
@papa.mike01 9 ай бұрын
Wow, so glad I watched this one Greg. I almost bought the mini with some upgrades without realizing the Studio was a better value for price vs price.
@gospelaccordingtojohn8959
@gospelaccordingtojohn8959 11 ай бұрын
I came to the same conclusion when deciding between these two machines. I would even suggest adding 64GBs in ram for future proofing if you are running pro apps.
@chrisstromberg6527
@chrisstromberg6527 10 ай бұрын
That’s what I did!
@abrock6215
@abrock6215 11 ай бұрын
I would chose the Studio M2 Max with 64 GB or Ram and a 1TB SSD for the type of work I would use it for.
@wildeyestudios5
@wildeyestudios5 7 ай бұрын
I need something to work on premiere pro and final cut, mostly just 1080p files at 240 fps interpreted at 24 fps. GoPro files i believe it's h264 codec. Which mac you recommend, mac mini or studio, and which specs? I'm thinking at least the 1tb hard disk and at least 16gb ram, the rest I have no idea what to choose. I'll work just with 1 display
@YoutubeToofanPubg
@YoutubeToofanPubg 7 ай бұрын
Which is better for gaming the Mac mini m2 pro vs Mac studio m2 max like heavy gaming please reply please 🙏
@alexkoulouris8768
@alexkoulouris8768 11 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts between the Mac min pro m2 with 16/512 vs a refurbished studio m1 max base for $1529?
@BenHawkinsPhotography
@BenHawkinsPhotography 4 ай бұрын
I have a good question for you tech guy? Can I use my 2019 iMac 27inch as a monitor with the Mac mini studio and how ?
@InFamousProductions
@InFamousProductions 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this vid. I have a iMac pro max out that has been great since it came out, but is definitely showing its age and I’m kind of hanging on for the next iMac Pro to see what it’s gonna be like but into max does look like a really kick ass machine.
@robertrea8829
@robertrea8829 10 ай бұрын
Hello, great vids. One question. What specs should a nonvideo editing user get for a mac mini?
@smgumbycat
@smgumbycat 11 ай бұрын
The Mac mini M2 Pro without any upgrades is a great value. But the Mac Studio is the choice if you are considering ANY upgrade for the Mac mini M2 Pro.
@GregsGadgets
@GregsGadgets 11 ай бұрын
Yup 👍
@sly2792004
@sly2792004 11 ай бұрын
I got mine for $1100. could got m1 studio for $1500 but spent extra money on keyboard and trackpad. mini is already way more than I needed. I was going get base mini but for $100 more for better cpu/gpu and more ports seemed stupid to pass on.
@torb-no
@torb-no 11 ай бұрын
Not if the upgrade is still cheaper than base Studio. Regardless of value, that’s still more money. It makes no sense to literally pay for more if you don’t need it. Base M2 Pro mini with 32GB is literally eveything I need. I *don’t* need any of the stuff the Studio provides. Makes no sense to pay for it. To give some context: I was actually considering between a souped up regular M2 Mini (24GB RAM, 512SSD) and a M2 Pro Mini. Went Pro because I needed a little bit more ports, memory and SoC grunt. Why should I have gotten even more than that when I simply didn’t need it?
@smgumbycat
@smgumbycat 11 ай бұрын
@@torb-no As long as you are happy. The point is if you upgrade a Mac mini M2 Pro to 32 GB , the cost is 1699. For an additional 300 dollars, you get a superior computer. I have the Mac mini M2 Pro base model and I am happy with the performance. If the 32 GB upgrade was 200 instead of 400, I would probably have upgraded.
@torb-no
@torb-no 11 ай бұрын
@@smgumbycat Everything is worse in Norway price wise. The upgrade to 32GB is equivalent to 560 USD, but the upgrade to the base studio is still an additional equivalent to 560 USD on top of that. 560 USD is a hell-of-alot of money for more GPU I don't use, more ports I don't use.
@EFX-su4bu
@EFX-su4bu 9 ай бұрын
Ordered my Mac Studio today. Upgraded the Ram to 64 Gb and HD to 1 Tb.
@hugonot2008
@hugonot2008 11 ай бұрын
what about the noise? is there any diference between M2 Mac Studio Max and M2 Mac mini?
@royalvoyagers
@royalvoyagers 11 ай бұрын
True. Another value M2 Max has over M2 Pro is doubled decode engines, resulting in a faster export speed.
@driven01
@driven01 2 ай бұрын
Coming from a MacBook Pro i9 / 32GB I thought I needed to at least match that when I upgraded. Then I borrowed my wife's M2 Air 16GB/512GB, and it runs absolute circles around my expensive workhorse. I do development (XCode), and a significant amount of video editing. I'm now questioning how much machine I need if I can do all of this on an M2 Air. Instead of the Studio, the M2 Pro might be fine. The only thing giving me pause is the limited number of external monitors, but for the moment, I'm just on my singular Studio Display anyway, so I might be OK.
@nelsonngu
@nelsonngu 11 ай бұрын
I am stuck at a point I don't even know I should get Mac Studio base model or not. I am still rocking my iMac 2020 model with max out GPU, 40GB ram running boot camp with 5k Display with an external 1440p 165hz Acer display. Gaming on iMac 2020 on bootcamp still not too bad but when it comes to editing 10-20mins videos on MacOS, I started to see the hiccups, the lag more and more frequently on FCPX, Photoshops and lightroom.
@deonlee7353
@deonlee7353 4 ай бұрын
Is the fan on the Studio louder than on the mini?
@Smittron
@Smittron 11 ай бұрын
The push to purchase models with more cores, RAM, storage, ports, etc. has been made so easy by Apple with the current Mac lineup. For example, I sent a friend to the Apple store to buy a $599 M2 Mac mini and he left with a $3,599 Mac Studio.
@derSTEFstef
@derSTEFstef 3 ай бұрын
Omg if he actually just needed the M2 Mac he got scammed reeeeeeally bad holy hell
@cdauterive1
@cdauterive1 8 ай бұрын
How do they compare with the 16gb to the 32gb with music production?
@RobsMemoryLane
@RobsMemoryLane 11 ай бұрын
Is the mini and editing 4K video on final cut pro smooth?
@fishyeggs689
@fishyeggs689 11 ай бұрын
The only thing that makes sense to me is that the maxed out Mac Mini configuration only exists to entice buyers to get the base Studio instead. It's like Apple is saying, "sure, you can max the Mini out, but why?" 🤔
@JimboHutch
@JimboHutch 2 ай бұрын
Ran into the same cost comparison when going through the build options to compare, and it feels like an oversight when the performance of a maxed out 32GB of RAM mini is outshined by the cheaper base studio option with the buff in GPU specs. Would be great to see some comparisons in a few Adobe apps too.
@donaldmclachlan3262
@donaldmclachlan3262 7 ай бұрын
As a systems programmer I think there is an important feature of the Mac Studio you forgot to test vs the Mac Mini M2 Pro; Memory Bandwidth. I believe the Mac Studio claims 400 Gbps while the Mac Mini M2 Pro claims 200 Gbps. If the price was equal I would have jumped for the Mac Studio. But in Canada I was able to get the Mac Mini M2 Pro + 1 TB SSD + 10G Ethernet for $1000 less than the Mac Studio. Oh, and another good test to show would be - read write speed to the internal SSD vs to an external USB connected flash drive.
@Hyde-fi_Audio
@Hyde-fi_Audio 20 күн бұрын
As someone who records music the M1 pro config makes a lot of sense because all we need is CPU and memory. Getting the Studio means we pay for GPU cores that we really don’t need.
@begin2dig
@begin2dig 4 ай бұрын
thank you
@onlyarturo
@onlyarturo 11 ай бұрын
Great video ! Thanks
@ApicalTrades
@ApicalTrades 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I cleared a lot of cloud. I am waiting for Mac Studio M3 to come out and will definitely want to see your thoughts on that before I make a purchase.
@ezelder
@ezelder 11 ай бұрын
How many thunderbolt controllers do each have? This will help me determine how many video capture cards I could run without bottlenecks.
@isaacixtupe8983
@isaacixtupe8983 6 ай бұрын
Will they work on any monitor or does it have to be an apple monitor?
@pauldarrigo4395
@pauldarrigo4395 6 ай бұрын
Hi How are you recording your audio for this podcast... I don't see a mic?
@MannyG32968
@MannyG32968 11 ай бұрын
May be more than a crazy reason here but I like the sd card feature along with the 32GB. Works for me.
@snoopaka
@snoopaka 11 ай бұрын
You convinced me to get the Studio. Thanks
@grizzlypaws461
@grizzlypaws461 11 ай бұрын
M2 Max Mac Studio will be a great gaming machine ;)
@GregsGadgets
@GregsGadgets 11 ай бұрын
Haha it would be ok if games were optimized for mac 😢
@bemacbe
@bemacbe 11 ай бұрын
​@@GregsGadgets What are you talking about Greg? We have a record number of blockbuster AAA games native on Apple Silicon. Last count was 9, give or take a few, but it is still a record. 👍🏼 I am now wearing sunglasses too, as the future is looking oh so bright!😎
@alphagodvon
@alphagodvon 11 ай бұрын
Yeah for 4K $$
@grizzlypaws461
@grizzlypaws461 11 ай бұрын
@@alphagodvon base M2 Max Mac Studio is $1,799 in the education store or $1,999 otherwise.
@locovidepro
@locovidepro 6 ай бұрын
Hey guys, I am not technically an expert but I would appreciate any advice without compromising anyone. I still have the Mac Pro 2012 but now it is not compatible anymore with Adobe Pr, Ae or Lr and Ps. I don't do much editing and only do HD or some 4k comprising. Do you guys think the M2 Max Pro will be enough to edit? Thanks again for any advise.
@davewalker5706
@davewalker5706 2 ай бұрын
I will be going for the base M3 Studio this year, with upgrade to 1TB SSD, and the 27" display, hope they come out with the space black option
@migueldevela2917
@migueldevela2917 11 ай бұрын
I was set on the M2 Pro Mac Mini with 32gb until I saw your reveiw. I have not bit the bulet yet on these. That said, I 've got a SATECHI Type-C Stand & Hub with SSD Enclosure and SD card reader. Plus the M2 Pro Mac Mini can also have up to 2TB w/o paying the APPLE prices. It would be anM2 Pro Mini Studio-ish. Now is it wiser if I just get the new M2 Max Studio? Price is also a factor in this btw. Thanks.
@Noisyhands
@Noisyhands 11 ай бұрын
It’s a lot harder to rack-mount a Studio into a 1U chassis than a Mini. I can see where if someone wanted similar performance as a Studio but couldn’t integrate a Studio into their workstation due to its size, they would go for the spec’d out Mini.
@barkmonster
@barkmonster 8 ай бұрын
Sonnet make a very disappointing and expensive rackmount for the Mac Studio that has less features than the 2U version they do for the Mac Mini. It’s an option but massively overpriced by any standards.
@TheCashman007
@TheCashman007 5 ай бұрын
which one is better for a hot environment ?
@steven871
@steven871 10 ай бұрын
Great video , Greg. Keep it up. For the occasional user / weekend photo and video hobbiest, which M1 or M2 small desktop is the best value compromise? I'm talking processing hundreds of Raws and a hundreds of 60 second 4k clips 20 weekends a year?
@techtravelpanda
@techtravelpanda 10 ай бұрын
Studio M2 base model. If it is too much, 32gb M2 Mac Mini Pro
@fabianp3710
@fabianp3710 11 ай бұрын
In my country the m2pro mac mini with 32gb goes for 2000€ and the studio base model goes for 2400€ do you think the studio is worth the extra money?
@bryllupsfotofilm
@bryllupsfotofilm 9 ай бұрын
Can i use my Imac 5k 27" 2014 as a screen for this boxes?
@thirdrockjul2224
@thirdrockjul2224 4 ай бұрын
Great info! 👍
@siddantsharma3681
@siddantsharma3681 7 ай бұрын
is mac studio good for atmos mixing mastering??
@SerPapus
@SerPapus 11 ай бұрын
The m2 max Mac Studio is such a good deal
@SteveDonev
@SteveDonev 11 ай бұрын
Only if you need macOS exclusive apps. For $2k you can easily build a pc that is way more powerful. The true advantage of Apple silicon is low power draw which mainly applies to laptops tablets and phones as it means incredible battery life. On desktop that advantage is almost pointless
@eth.n154
@eth.n154 11 ай бұрын
@@SteveDonevno you can’t lmao. You need a 3k pc to compete with the Mac m2 pro mini
@SteveDonev
@SteveDonev 11 ай бұрын
@@eth.n154 uh no. A ryzen 9 7900 outperforms the m2 pro by a massive margin and any gpu over a rtx 3060ti will outperform the mac’s gpu and a pc with those 2 will be around $1500. If you go up to 2k you can get a rtx 4070 which will literally run circles around the m2 pro’s gpu. The only huge win apple has is power efficiency, which who cares, it’s a desktop. It doesn’t run out of battery
@eth.n154
@eth.n154 11 ай бұрын
@@SteveDonev where are you finding a 4090 for under 2k ?
@eth.n154
@eth.n154 11 ай бұрын
4070*
@almerian
@almerian 11 ай бұрын
Another thing to keep in mind is that the base Mac mini model comes with 8GB and basic M2. The base Mac Studio model comes with 32GB and M2 Max. When in the future Apple has to decide which series to include in a MacOS release based on performance, they will look only at the performance of the base models.
@grillmeister7
@grillmeister7 6 ай бұрын
Thanks you for a great comparison. I'm coming from a 2013 iMac and had concluded the Mac Studio was only modestly more expensive that the Mac Mini with 32GB.o
@iocomposer
@iocomposer 10 ай бұрын
I got the M2 Pro Mini over the studio for the single reason that it fits into the Sonnet chassis that I already own (duomodo model). If I went for the comparable Studio, I would have had to buy a whole new bigger chassis and just have that much more weight to carry around. So yeah, I get your POV, but for me the mini (pro, 32GB RAM) was exactly what I wantted.
@beefwantko7269
@beefwantko7269 8 ай бұрын
Why not spend that 2000 dollars on a macbook pro.. its smaller, just as fast, and guess what you dont have to dish out 1200 dollars for a highly mediocre screen.. one that runs at 60hz at that.. god mac makes me mad some times.. great products but they have everyone brainwashed because things are built out of aluminum.. or go back and get Last gen Imac that has a 5k screen.. the same one that they are selling for 1300 dollars.. and its faster then any M2 mini
@iocomposer
@iocomposer 8 ай бұрын
@@beefwantko7269 interestingly enough, that is exactly what I did. Sold the Sonnet chassis, my audio cards, the mini, and made more than enough money to buy the 14" MBP with 64GB RAM. Perfect for my needs.
@ricardorgomez
@ricardorgomez 16 сағат бұрын
I've read a fair number of comments and one serious omission from your video is: memory bandwidth. The memory bandwidth on the Pro is almost 1/3rd the size of the Max. Which means that shuffling data will occur with that much less efficiency. Not a big deal if you're a single-tasker. Which most people are. But if you start throwing up a couple of memory-heavy apps, you might get clunky interaction with the user-interface. Certainly if you have more apps up. If you're an office worker who does regular office work, heck, even a base M1 MBA will work fine for you if used efficiently. That is to say, keep the Google Chrome tabs open to a minimum. I used one for about a year with the only app on it being Spotify and everything worked well with the 6 or so Google Chrome tabs I had. Easy. And cheap. The only reason I see for getting a base Mac mini Pro is if you're a creative professional on a really really tight budget. The performance is incredibly good. Just be a single-tasker and you'll be fine for a good 3 - 4 years. The performance is nipping on the heals of a base M1 Max Studio and that thing is crazy fast. But the Studio will far outpace it when having several big apps up. But if you're a scientific, artistic or financial professional, the bandwidth alone on the base Mac Studio is a clear and easy choice. You'll have several apps doing some big crunching and won't even notice it. And be finishing in record time.
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