Gregtech New Horizons S2 51: Blast Furnace System Integration

After doubling the EU generation last episode, we look at using the power to run some Blast Furnaces. It's important that we set them up in a way that is easy to use and well integrated with Applied Energistics. So, we spend the episode learning all the in's and out's of the AE system integration with Gregtech, as well as some of the new features New Horizons has to offer.
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[@Threefold.]

I don't blame you guys if you are lost during all this :D

[@n30l1ght7]

With you back to guide us, are we ever truly lost?

[@memyselfishness]

I am lost, but you're a fine GPS

[@ezekielzoro]

Might be lost, but enjoying the videos. Glad you have returned.

[@Executorder]

Lost ? not me ! im on a different Route ! ;)

[@36cowboysintotalatramranch]

Nah your editing is so clean and the way you explain stuff is really good. I tried watching kharax82 and his videos are very good but you are much easier to follow

[@acearachnid]

the thumbnails remind me of an Etho thumbnail, the laid back nature of these videos fit that, and god I’m feeling so good when watching this series aaaaaa I missed you three 🥺

[@tl1326]

You're dearly loved in this community three. I just want you to know that.

[@ViCypriots]

I have missed your uploads so much three :) I completely dont mind the new pace, your videos still have the same charm, i think the common denominator is just you being you making anything interesting to watch I am glad you are back mate.

[@TheShadowofX]

For the record, MAX is just the limited of energy hatch tiers. You can - and will - feed orders of magnitude more power into multis lategame, and endgame you'll be measuring your power grid in max tier Eyes of Harmony rather than EU/t. It's one thing that IMO GTNH does very well, escalating numbers in a way that the player actually can keep track of rather than feeling like you're working with an arbitrary statistic from start to finish. There are indeed more boots added to 2.5, and in addition (though I believe this was also present in prior versions as well?) there's config options to modify the speed boost that the various upgraded Boots of the Traveller give you, so you don't have to risk getting fatally irradiated by not wearing hazmat protected boots. That said there is an enchantment that gives hazmat protection (as well as the Talisman of Remedium to remove radiation sickness), so there's alternative options there as well. One saying that is very useful to keep in mind, and that Three has forgotten more than once in the past: "Measure twice, cut once" 🙃. Most EBF recipes you want to use circuit 11 and avoid using circuit 1, but there are situations where circuit 1 is the only option, so sharing input buses with different circuits is a dubious prospect at best. That's mainly why I'm actually not a large fan of quad EBFs, since you cannot overclock them and have unshared input buses at the same time, but this situation makes a good case for them. Overclocking those EBFs to LuV would flatline Three's fledgeling power grid quite badly even if they were Volcani, while you want to share the expensive HSS-S coils as much as possible, so quad EBFs seem the obvious solution here. Cutting corners on the power net is something you can do in GTNH, but in general I wouldn't recommend it. There are instances where something will draw more power than expected and burn the cable, there's instances where you expand a setup without first checking/upgrading the cables and burn it, and if that's not bad enough you could end up burning a cable in a place where it's able to spawn a fire and detonate machines outright. My recommendation is to make sure every cable on a given line is capable of supporting the maximum amount of amps that could ever be send on that line. Is it excessive and a waste of materials? Yes, absolutely. But materials shouldn't be the bottleneck in GTNH, if it is than you need better processing/crafting infrastructure. The biggest bottleneck is ultimately your sanity, and nearly having your first EBF detonate because you didn't wire it up correctly (not that I ever did that, totally...*cough*) is somewhat suboptimal in that regard 🙃. So people might be wondering how 800 EU/t supposedly caps out a generator that produces almost 8000 EU/t. Slight calculation errors aside what Three said is correct in principle: Wireless connectors are not as expensive as they used to be, but IV is still not the time to be spamming them carelessly (unless you intentionally overbuild your power production, of course). Circa LuV/ZPM, however, they're much more affordable to use in large quantities, and you might end up swapping most of your AE2 system over to wireless connectors, skipping the whole "P2P subnet" step altogether. To see how much power wireless connectors consume just look at the tooltip. It'll say how much energy it consumes in AE/t, simply halve that number to get the power cost in EU/t. If you're having trouble mass-producing MV tier circuits when you access AE2, let stand post-platline, mistakes were made 🙃. Remember to build your foundation before trying to build your house, otherwise it'll just collapse. GTNH factories are little different in this regard, despite what the floating soon to be parking lot base might imply RE: laws of gravity. Note that with Volcani the "passive everything" strategy can still work in GTNH. Bees and/or diligent management of MBMs can keep your factory supplied on materials, power isn't *too* much of a concern given how efficient Volcani are (if you try this with regular EBFs, though, oh boy...), and compared to lategame such a setup would be nothing noteworthy. That said the reason you generally don't go for that strategy in GTNH is because it's unnecessary. With enough Volcani, or a sufficiently powered MEBF, smelting ingots will not be the bottleneck, so you don't get much from passively crafting them. There's one very notable exception to this rule later on, though, and passively cooking *those* ingots in volcani is considered the norm as a result. Once you have a T2 rocket and are diligently mining pure Titanium ore I don't believe you have to care about fluid output on EBF recipes bar specific setups. That said there's always a chance and always some random recipe you'll have to run a few times for some random thing or another, so keep it in the back of your mind regardless. With a system like this IMO you might as well build in automated redstone control that shuts off the machine if it's got a maintenance issue. It shouldn't meaningfully impact production speed if one turns off, but it will save you from having to burn extra power to run an EBF with a maintenance issue. That said given that this setup feeds the EBFs 2A of power into a single energy hatch they can keep running through even five maintenance issues just fine, so long as the battery doesn't run out of power completely or too much power is requested on that line. Remember that whatever other plans you may have in the works - digitising storage, moving rutile processing, etc. - are, more than likely, all contingent on being able to power said plans. Without power you can move AE2 controllers and storage and whatever else all day long, but not have anything to show for it until after you upgrade power well enough to actually use is. Hence I don't think what comes next is much of a question: Getting possessed by a demonic squirrel and suddenly diving into Blood Magic. I mean, clearly 🙃.

[@vlkadminas]

For the nano jetpack there's a keybind for Boost key (you can use CTRL) which makes you fly faster. Also with travellers boots, in new (2.5.x) all of the boots can change speeds and jump height.

[@akti4467]

the boost key donst work for the nano suit

[@vlkadminas]

@@akti4467 it absolutely does. Thats literally boost for nano only/

[@bohemian_history_and_other300]

all of the boots from Thaumic boots mod only

[@akti4467]

@@vlkadminas If I try it dosnt work tho. Also its a ic2 keybind while the chestpalte is by gravi suits

[@wastucar8127]

I’m sick and the “we, who’s we?” Joke made me laugh cough lmao thanks three!

[@binchamers]

I’d gladly take the blame together with threefold 🫡

[@lisiuhin]

Hi Three, I am happy to see you pumping out content so fast. However, I do not mind if you slow down a little bit too and have more fun with the game yourself. We all do not want to see you force yourself and burnout again. Take care!

[@casimir40ksolomon74]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT HE'S BACK I am so glad that you are feeling well enough to come back, and I hope that you manage to stay healthy and happy.

[@davighiur]

I don't know how or who you are, but I thank you. I used to binge your S2 GTNH playlist when i was in the Steam Age, and I learned a lot from you, like chunk-aligment, base planning, and so on and so forth. Hope you only the best. Keep up the good work!

[@romainm6332]

Hi Threefold, I'm a medical student, so I watch your videos at night after a hard day. Your videos put a smile on my face, it's really good to have you back. I follow you since the beggining of the saison 1 of gtnh. Love you and i hope the better for you !!

[@jacobwilkus8697]

I was never the person to comment or participate on Discord, but I always watched every episode of yours when it came out. Love the content, and am so excited for your return.

[@Shruikan1011]

Seeing you make mistakes in real time actually make me much more comfortable with making my own mistakes in giant and honestly confusing modpacks like GTNH. Keep up the good work Three!

[@mikkellhf]

First comment on anything, in like 12 years. I just have to say, a huge thanks for the effort you put in! I love and whole hearted enjoy the series - aswell as the 'new' format. Been longing for some proper modded, since i have watched your entire backcatalog! Cheers Three!

[@Threefold.]

Thanks for sharing with me. I really do appreciate the kind words and the fact that you have chosen to join me again on the journey through NH. The new format I knew wouldn't be for everyone as it is different to the beginning of the series, but I'm enjoying making videos this way. It's nice to hear that others are on board. Thanks again

[@TheYUMOfficial]

I think you do power storage, then ME re-wire, then sort the ore processing and storage! That way nothing is holding you back from fleshing it out the best you can :) Love to have you back man, you're loved and appreciated

[@chandleready8988]

I think you can still only use one wireless connector for AE in the new setup with the input hatches, just remove the original wireless connector and quartz-fiber connect the new one to the cable next to it.

[@yes-zr8qt]

Hearing that music during the montage brought me back to some months ago, it's great to have you back

[@matiastripaldi406]

So happy you're back Three. Of course you're gonna have positive responses, you're the best! Keep on going man

[@Luaithel]

One thought I had with the old machines when you take them down, as you'd asked for ideas on, would be maybe using Z-Tones blocks as approximations to fill back in the holes, maybe even with signs saying what machine used to reside in that area. Kind of like a museum to the time in the old base. It's good to see you back and at it again as well, Three. You're the one that got me as deep into DJ2 as I got, and with the ideas for passive crafting. It added many more interesting challenges to the base, as well as made it so much easier to get to the next step not having to wait for everything to craft up. Looking forward to the continuation of GT:NH and that Tier 7 rocket, maybe beyond!

[@lolicantthinkofabettername3437]

Love your vids, started watching your gtnh play through weeks ago. I have managed to catch up to this point so far. I think it's kinda sad seeing you leave the old base, since for me there was no months long break. But I prefer the play through to keep going in the void world over it stopping entirely. You do you, it's still just as enjoyable to watch.

[@Threefold.]

Thank you so much! It's great to have you on board for our journey to the rocket 🧡

[@darkhawk155]

For the green subnet under the EBFs, wouldn't you want to avoid making a loop out of that ME cable? I'm no AE2 expert but I think I remember that you want to avoid having multiple paths back to the ME controller from any one device, I think it causes the controller to get confused and start giving one device multiple channels? Or the channel it does get switches around causing the device to drop of the network randomly...? Not 100% sure Edit: A moot point I guess after Three reworked the outputs to end up back in the main network, but my question remains. I'll double check the AE2 wiki

[@BeanxxBot]

Nobody is more enjoyable to watch while explaining GT nonsense. Keep making videos for you, not for us, we'll enjoy it regardless. So glad you're back and better than ever.

[@Incognitonenja]

Greg

[@NA26626]

Thanks for coming back and posting your progress again. I don't really care what the content looks like because you always do such a great job with it!

[@HadeedSarfaraz]

Would highly recommend you push for power battery first because it will limit most of your other issues fixes

[@orbyfied]

you could also place interface-storage bus on the subnet and have it make the output items accessible to the main net that way, to use less main net channels

[@GeogeWithoutR]

Appreciate you coming back, love the videos, you really got me into Nomi, which im having loads of fun with :^)

[@SivaExperiment]

These videos are going to be a ton of help when I get to this point of GTNH I know that for a fact. Hell earlier vids in the series have helped me too

[@gabrielmillin1271]

Loved the video as always three You might as well have one stocking input hatch shared between the four blast furnaces in the middle, because it will pull everything in the me system into it anyway, four is a waste. You can fill the stocking input hatches will all the circuits, the blast furnaces seem to be smart enough to choose the most efficient recipe with fluids. You can also have the stocking input hatches stock a circuit and the blast furnace will recognise it and do recipes of that number. You don’t actually need the machine controllers on the blast furnaces, by default if they run out of power they will turn off and stay off until you turn them on again. At a guess the reason why your plat line is broken is because machines now don’t auto void, they turn off instead of voiding. somewhere you probably have a chemical reactor which produces water as a byproduct which isn’t turning on because it doesn’t want to void the water, you can disable this in the machine’s UI. The next big gate is the assembly line and you’ll need an obscene amount of circuits for it. I would suggest focusing on building multi block on demand crafting so you can craft those mainframes quickly. While you’re spending forever waiting for crafting the assembly line you could consider doing some magic, or even bees, as you should now be able to make the industrial apiary. I regret not touching bees until zpm because a lot of the resources they make are redundant by then, although certainly not all.

[@Royal_4096]

MAX energy hatch aren’t craftable, so UXV is the highest tier Machines have void protection now so that might be why platline isn’t working You need to drop and pick up items to get the trophy iirc Dual interface + pump doesn’t work with multiple fluids, but dual interface + conduit does. Export bus is better though You haven’t needed a machine controller cover to have safe mode functionality, that’s just normal behavior without a controller/wireless cover

[@Threefold.]

It's almost certainly some sort of Machine controller behaviour stopping the platline. The question is... Which controller lol

[@not__nugget]

Very happy to see you back making videos! I have been rewatching a lot of your older videos to get my GT:NH fix, but low and behold, you're back! Can't wait to keep up with the Threefold journey!

[@janso1524]

Great video :) can you put the ME output bus in the middle of the 4 blast furnaces so you only need one not 2?

[@Threefold.]

Yeah thats the way it is for the Freezers, but on the EBFs we need that block space underneath for the AE wires :)

[@Confidencyy]

21:01 didn't expect this but it definetly made me laugh when i heard it

[@aliumhoomens8467]

So many comments in only 4 mins

[@Winnieeeee]

A lot of greg this episode ❤

[@TheArditgjo]

Notification gang here

[@dashinking]

interested to see how you handle automations in luv/zpm since your first run ended around naquadah line

[@sepiar7682]

Another comment said that this more laid back style reminds them of Etho, and I have to say I agree! Etho's my favorite youtuber of all time (and the one that got me into modded minecraft with his Project Ozone 2 series), so I've been loving this!

[@Threefold.]

I love that series by Etho! He also happens to be my favourite channel on KZbin :D

[@ickn2005]

I thoroughly enjoy your content and I am happy that you are back messing around with this pack. One thing I enjoy about you playing it, when you talk about machines and materials, I constantly find myself googling said item and learning more about it. Yes you do a great job explaining what you're doing, I am just that type of person. Thank you for another awesome video.

[@TheLampenmann]

THREE you made me download GTNH. I dont know a thing about gregtech but i am here to suffer along. Thanks for your videos :D

[@Trippyllamacorn7047]

Same he dragged me into GTNH

[@demonnauki]

Another Episode 50?

[@baophamquoc9576]

Something that also I should mention is that in void worlds, the frames are going to be significantly higher (for obv reasons). Fly high, Foldy!

[@gabbo_riele_1236]

I have been loving this new restart of the series i missed GTNH. Great video Three

[@MaxiveLegend]

seeing these uploads in my notifications still makes me smile so much!

[@Threefold.]

:)

[@TrollFace34]

i put this as a comment so people dont have to do 1 extra click to check my point about stuff The hole in the wall could be glass covered, preserving it while remove the hole part of it. Also ZPM's cable cover could be set to red or deep green (if green isnt taken.) i dont mean lime just a deep green. Naquadah in the stargate mod is green so you could make it green to link green naquadah to green naquadah tier (ZPM) cables. Red would be more aesthetic with the "red evil" you based the rings in the original base around. If you dont want to read all that (i hope you do to understand all my points): Cover the hole in the wall with glass, make the zpm cables deep green or red

[@danib603]

I’m happy you’re back to making videos - I’m playing gtnh with my bf and am only watching episodes at the level of progress we’re at, but I love the series and and excited to see more (in about 10000000 hours)

[@btggamer4074]

BSFI sounds like a sick achronym for blast furnace system integration. Appropriate for a sick setup!

[@massspectrometer6757]

"But why some say the moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask, why climb the highest mountain? Why 35 years ago fly the Atlantic? We choose to go to the moon. We chose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things not because they are easy, but because they are hard. Because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we’re willing to accept. One we are unwilling to postpone." --JFK, 1962 That's why I'm here, because it's hard. And I like the snacks. Care on how you like to play, pal. Leave the holes in place. It's easier to see all the background stuff is ready to be recycled for other use later (if needed).

[@fionaskittle]

Okay that's a genius setup. I'm going to change my EBF setups to work like that. It's flexible and extensible. Those stocking input buses are marvellous.

[@jakobus977]

I am really liking the pacing of the series. Helps show just how much of a beast this pack is. Playing through IV (before my world corrupted 😢) definitely helps understand everything that’s going on, but I’d imagine anyone who’s seen the whole series can probably follow it. Also I like the longer videos

[@CalebsAquarium]

Applied Energistics never fails to confuse me. I could never play GTNH long term for that reason alone. So many nets, and channels, and cables, and buses, lol throw in AND/NAND logic, redstone etc im just lost lol. Still love the video though.

[@josiahsimmons9866]

Every time I hear Chirp, I will forever think of your videos ❤💔💝

[@haripnarayanan2515]

Hallo Three, another fantastic video! Could you, or another modded expert, explain why you'd want to switch over from drawers to the ME storage? Is there lag or something with the storage buses? Thanks!

[@Incognitonenja]

Unless you have two energy hatches in a EBF, it will never pull more than 1 amp (with exception of the MEBF). So I don't think you will have power issues.

[@ebmusicman84]

Loving the return of the series! I'm here for all the GTNH, even tried playing it for a bit, got up to MV and just kinda lost interest. Might pick it back up again eventually tho.

[@Tomnickles]

Those wires under the blast furnaces looked like some alien spider monster guarding its babies lol.

[@cjallen9230]

Idk if you will see this but I like watching everything, you're videos are really informative for new players like me, I havnt played gtnh much but ita nice to learn. If you want to "preserve" the world you can always break the old stuff now and when you are able to you can replace the machine and just not the wiring

[@BT10e]

When removing the old machines what if you use coloured blocks to "paint" over the past machines, keeping the general look but you still can use the machines

[@softie4645]

I'm pretty sure covered cables are less laggy than smart cables as well! It's more significant when you have thousands of cables running around as well

[@rustinoctober]

Great episode! 3rd already, but I still don't believe that Three is back! I'm just happy

[@RaccWurst]

Hey three, sorry for trolling in ur discord, i wont come back until im like 18 and matured

[@Alexdoru100]

Since the stocking input bus is expensive you could have one in the middle of the 4 blast furnaces...

[@ayeitzralphgaming8052]

you should make a glass void at the bottom of your world. Im sure by now an auto glass maker isnt difficult and Idk how far a builder is but im sure theres like a builders wand or something. Also if you do it like a certain color it could look even cooler or just like an auto clear glass factory passively builds up and you expand "the void" every few episodes

[@MrCumberlander1]

You could have used P2P through the subnet instead of using wireless.

[@Alexdoru100]

You don’t need machine controller covers on the blast furnaces, the default behavior of a multiblock is to turn off when out of power until a players re-enables the machine. It is already doing what you need

[@TizonaAmanthia]

I say for posterity, replace the blocks with a "displaypiece" like make some colored concrete or something and make a thing that looks like a bladt furnace for where you removed the old ones.

[@GreatZerby]

"We? There's no we" 😂 Threefold is truly the modded minecraft Heisenberg

[@pieterhellemans1190]

For future reference, you can always place a fluid storage bus from your subnet on a dual interface from your main net to give the subnet acces to all fluids in the main system. Then you could've just used the subnet to supply the ebfs with passive fluids without needing the extra wireless connection

[@gavinff]

20:59 "Who is we? You speakin' french?" I know I'm late to this.

[@IanDresarie]

yup, the more "Info/Tutorial/commentary" rather than the "heavily edited Docuseries" is very DireWolf20. And I mean that as the highest compliment. :) Though your wiring is much less infuriating. ;)

[@wooziemike55]

Ah man, my girlfriends gonna be mad. She thought our affair was finally over, but here i am crawling back to you like an addict.

[@Exocruelty]

Me personally i think it's worth to focus an entire episode on energy and power. Having the luxury of power let's you expand without issues.

[@wChris_]

with most big youtubers leaving, seeing you come back from the dead is the best that could happen. It seems like that we have hit wall with most youtubers burning out trying to compete with shorts and their like. And i guess the best way to combat this is by having fun and only doing things that are fun.

[@BT10e]

Why dont you just wire red cable instead of using the wireless ME cables? It saves on power and in my humble opinion the cables look so cool

[@KitsuneGB-hc9zb]

Re: Holes in the old base Maybe you could literally board the holes up (I.e. with wood planks) and place a sign saying what used to be there :)

[@houseofcrazyman865]

the advanced nano chestplate doesn't get a speed boost from the mantle, but it is affected by the nano boots of the traveller. If you turn off view bobbing, it's a lot less nauseating to use, and took me about a day of playing to get used to the move speed. I still use the potion fairly often because the vertical speed is still quite slow, but it makes the jetpack usable for day to day stuff, and the potion no longer needs a permanent spot on my hotbar.

[@okiguessineedahandle]

For fluids on ur blast furnaces, u can pop a fluid storage bus (subnet) onto a dual interface (mainnet) to pass though all your fluids to your subnet!!

[@zerohero17799]

I believe each battery is capable of outputting 2 amps of power unless they changed something in the newer version. But i cant say for sure

[@coretotheeye]

40:30 machine controller covers are unnecessary since EBFs shutdown when there's not enough power and you have to turn them on manually anyway.

[@jurrejelle]

So many uploads so quickly, I'm having so so so much fun. We're eating good these days! Thank you so much for all the content

[@SlavZuko]

Episode 50 v2?

[@kezif]

I hope I could forget about threefold completely, so I could rewatch whole series like at the first time😍

[@arthus6736]

I missed the music parts of your videos ! As always it is a pleasure to watch ! (And maybe hear you sing ? 😳)

[@oloololowski6089]

maby im stupid or something but i really think that refined storage is much more easier to understand than applied engineristics so i dont understand sometimes what you're doing but it's still cool

[@uhhno841]

why not do a musem setup with your machines??? isnt there a camo mod or somthing that can paint X block to look like another block, so you paint the blocks to look like the machines without losing them

[@gillsmoke]

For the "holes" cover them up so it's a hallway? With the accent blocks and what not.

[@larinel]

You could just place a single stocking bus in the center of your blast stack :) Or at least share it between two of the furnaces

[@makonew398]

29:44 if its looped to battery buffer buffer will request power and void some EU

[@germescraft]

MORE GTNH , amazing work , thank you so much.

[@mertgoksel35]

Bro you are again doing too much in too little time. I mean you just started playing again but please do not burn yourself out.

[@Fosuya]

I'm loving the ride, gtnh is interesting but I can't bring myself to play it.

[@Conbomb810]

still so happy toure back but prioritize your own happiness and take breaks !

[@CeilingNinja]

I'm so glad to see you posting again Three! Keep at the pace that makes you most happy and don't push yourself too much. I'll watch you for you, not for anything else.

[@jozzybear3872]

How do you place the item dislocator in the battle gear offhand?

[@pedrohenriquedrawanz8803]

You are basically my go to gtnh KZbinr to make my base optimal

[@lunartic7367]

in which episode did the HV to MV transformer incident happen anyway?

[@statikkshiv2235]

Many good youtubers are leaving this month, it's nice to see one to come back

[@OkGamez313]

one thing you could do is make it look abandoned. add cobwebs, remove some blocks,

[@morrisstanforth3278]

You could add a lever to the blast furnaces to make them golden rule compliant

[@lazothealien]

Palworld and TFGTNH in the same day it must be my birthday