Gretsch G5422 vs Epiphone Casino? [Plus Gretsch TV Jones Pickup Fit] -That Pedal Show

Two double-cut hollow body semi-acoustics, both with new pickups - which one would you choose?
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Welcome to the vlog. Warning: this one is a bit of a slog so if you just want to hear the guitars and skip all the waffle, the timings below and the timestamps in the video will help you.
But for those of you who do like to torture yourselves, I hope you enjoy this journey. It started as a Gretsch pickup fit idea, but having just done the Casino and given their relative similarity as guitars… well, it was begging for a comparison. So that’s how it ended up!
I start by comparing the Casino and the Gretsch before the Gretsch pickup swap, then labour through the pickup fit before comparing them again. There’s even a bit of ‘music’ so you can hear them in context towards the end.
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Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- These two guitars: 00:32
- Similarities and differences: 02:22
- Sound comparisons pre-pickup change: 03:58
- Thoughts so far: 13:48
- Filter’Trons? Nah… 14:27
- How much?! 16:40
- The pickup fit begins: 17:45
- Do the knobs fit?: 19:00
- Pulling out the old wiring: 20:50
- English mount / pickup ring adapters: 23:01
- Reamer?: 25:14
- The magic tube for component mounting: 26:00
- Reaming out the control holes: 28:35
- Neck or bridge pickup - which is which?: 29:45
- Putting the harness in the guitar: 35:00
- Strings: 40:10
- New pickup sounds & Epi comparison: 41:10
- Let’s play a track with both guitars!: 54:04
- Final thoughts and ponderings: 58:35
Guitars in this episode:
• 2017 Epiphone Casino, fitted with Lollar Dogear P90 pickups
• 2016 Gretsch 5422TG fitted with TV Jones T-Armond pickups (English mount)
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[@TheMorty56]

It makes my heart sooo happy to know I’m not the only one who can take a fairly straightforward process like switching pickups and making it a multi day ordeal with a ton of “fiddly” frustrating bits. All this work just to get a new sound that will instantly be criticized by my wife saying “I can’t tell a difference?” Lol

[@ThatPedalShow]

Indeed. Mine too. ‘What a colossal waste of time, but if it makes you happy, cool. Can you please now do something that //does// earn us some money?’ Was the principle response. Hahahahaah!

[@DanielFavio]

@@ThatPedalShow I've replaced pickups 7 times on 4 different guitars and I'll never forget how fiddly and frustrating my first change to my 335 was. I was laughing along so hard watching you get frustrated changing your casino pickups because I remember feeling the exact same way ha ha. Glad to know I'm not alone. My wife also made fun of me for spending all night and all day trying to replace those pickups.

[@howardalipton1]

❤​@@DanielFavio

[@Mario_Rios]

@@ThatPedalShowwe must have the same wife then😂

[@cwmims]

That Epiphone Casino with those P90's sounds absolutely the business!!!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thanks!

[@CradleRawk]

It also must be mentioned: it looks incredibly sexy with the black plastic P-90s, looks like an expensive axe . Agreed that it sounds great in Micks’ hands too

[@godbyone]

Do not use reverb. Stole money from me. Their credit. Card security is not safe

[@uttherkunst3806]

@@godbyone how is this relevant?

[@topografer]

@@uttherkunst3806 I imagine he is joking about the price of this reverb pedal?

[@theMarcoBarosi]

Can someone explain to me why every time Mick modifies one of his guitars I go from "never minded that guitar model" to "F*ck me I need one of those." D': *cries in poor*

[@ThatPedalShow]

Yes! Hahahah!!!

[@theMarcoBarosi]

@@ThatPedalShow I'll hold you accountable for it hahaha

[@Sammywhat]

LOL!! As a lefty, I cry even harder!!

[@andrewmcdonald5704]

Maybe it's the upgrade pickups. Lollartrons and de Armonds are more expensive than a cheap guitar.

[@Thatbobguy8]

The tone of a Gretsch can be summed up in one word. Romantic. It has such a tone that no other guitar has.

[@bradshannon862]

Well there is this one other guitar.

[@brettgl21]

Toms pickups are so damn good! Every time I pick up my TV Jones Spectrasonic standard, I fall in love with it all over again!

[@batoli20]

The low end in the Gretsch is so rubbery, it’s gorgeous!

[@conanseibel4464]

Rubbery, perfect description.

[@JakubKazmierski]

Not an autofocus malfunction, an artistic choice to focus on the amps while you play.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Oh I LIKE that!

[@bradgullette6748]

I have one of each of these guitars but I’ve always shied away from changing pickups. Really appreciate Mick showing how it’s not as bad as I thought. I use a Bigsby Spoiler for my Gretsch that makes string changes easy-peasy.

[@RocktCityTim]

Plus one of the Vibramate Spoiler!

[@stevechurch4728]

epiphone was a more open twang and the gretsch was a sophisticated tidier sound, the epiphone is brash in your face and the gretsch is subtle sweet.. that's how it sounded to me, both nice guitars.

[@bleeknoir]

No comparison Mick, good sir, Gretsch every time! But, then again I’m something of a Gretsch head. I hope it changes your playing life now it’s sounding like a full-fat model. Sounding great Mick!

[@bleeknoir]

I almost think Electromatics should be a separate brand, they feel nothing like any of the four high end models I’ve owned, from Falcons to Jets. However, this video proves beautifully that TV Jones pups can be transformative things. I had them in a Gretsch country club years ago. Beautiful things. Great video sir!

[@craig.encinitas]

@@bleeknoir I would enjoy playing a hot-rod Korean made hollow body. I had a G5410 for a few weeks, but something was missing. TV Jones pickups...that’s what I need in a Gretsch! 🎸 🔥

[@scotthansenmtbt4110]

I prefer the Gretsch tone

[@welfaremothers]

Nice! Ordered PowerTron and PowerTron Pluss about 15 years ago for my Electromatic Jet. Got confused with all the mount options and rings since the Gretsch humbucker dimensions were not the same as Filtertrons. So I ordered through a shop in Norway. But they didn't relay the correct guitar model, so I got the wrong mounts! I do not blame TV Jones for this mix up, it was the shop in Norways fault, but they took no responsibility and just said that they do not deal with TV Jones anymore, the day after I recieved my picups. Still havn't ordred the correct rings and/or rounted out the body. Just got too frustrated and/or pissed off 😂 This video might just have inspired me to finaly get it done!

[@jburdsinfuse]

I have Lollars in a J. Mascis Jazzmaster...they are absolutely amazing, especially at volume and in a mix. They’re the real star here.

[@jacobbentley2562]

I’ve got a set of their ‘52 Tele pickups in a partscaster and they’re awesome,

[@boogingtonthunderwood8969]

TV still builds those PU’s in his garage. He’s a fascinating guy to hang out with. He’s a fireman/EMT with one helluva brilliant mind, TV has.

[@cmdrargo4448]

That look on your face smiling playing the Casino says it all.... You love playing that guitar... and we love hearing it! Awesome playing

[@timhalligan7157]

Those new pickups have certainly brought the Gretsch to life. The ambient/modulation sounds you got around the 52:43 mark had my wallet suddenly get very nervous.

[@cass2771]

That was a Very Sweet sound!

[@alexgarr8386]

I’m sitting down all night and learning That riff at the beginning so cool lol

[@ThatPedalShow]

Yay!

[@kerranz]

I bought a Gretsch the other day and was stringing the Bigsby....try taking a needlenose pliers and giving the strings a bend in the first half-inch or so (in the wrapped area near the ring at the end.) This gives them a bit of tension there and they won't fall off the second you go to work at the head end.

[@andrewanderson3746]

Sounds stellar. Looking forward to hearing more Gretsch on the show!

[@jeremychua9]

Hey Mick, i love my bigsby on my casino. Especially for controlling feedback.

[@johntrani1764]

don't know why KZbin put all the lines though my message but it was all intended--thanks again

[@bciecko1]

I've got a 5420 and the T-Armonds as well. It's a project I've been putting off for a while now. I hate pup swapping on the hollows. Hard, no, annoying, you betcha. After working on a jag or Tele with a tiny control plate and it's all right there and accessible the hollow body becomes a major chore. Likewise, $400 layer for the pups--whewww. They aren't cheap. They are nice though. Happy to hear that fizzle they've got. They really brought your double cut to life. I've got 1meg and .01 for pots and cap, respectively, and it should be killer. Thanks for the video. Nice to hear what I'll be looking forward to. Edited to add that I'll be using a no load tone pot too. I skipped past your installation but am gonna go back to see what you out in, if you mentioned it that is. The old Gretsch guitars with the tone switch (mud switch as it's affectionately referred to) was usually in the middle, which was a tone bypass. A big part of that great h sound was having the tone removed from the circuit. So, no load tone and it should also make a huge difference.

[@Frankie_Holt]

As Swamper and Muscle Shoals legend Jimmy Johnson told me once “ain’t no money up on that high end of the neck “

[@ThatPedalShow]

He spake much truthing!

[@Glicksman1]

As someone once said, "There ain't no money above the fifth fret", or something like that.

[@danielakerman8241]

And then along came Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page 😂

[@davidtomkins4242]

He’s never met Steve Vai, but that’s prob because only one of them lives up in the Hollywood Hills.

[@Frankie_Holt]

@@davidtomkins4242 he’s dead , but he did play on over 100 top ten songs

[@TomSJazzBass]

Man that sounds blooming epic!!!! Sounds like a true Gretch now!!!!

[@martinm964]

Perfect timing. Just sat down to lunch in the Scottish sunshine. A rare treat.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Tatties and neaps I hope. :0)

[@martinm964]

A traditional Scottish..... Thai Stir Fry.

[@adamev]

Summer came early this year then. 😂

[@davidburnsmusic]

You must be in a sunnier part of Scotland than me! Grey skies over Glasgow

[@Glicksman1]

@@davidburnsmusic So, what else?

[@milzy5520]

Hey Mick, the big black dog visits me too once in a while. Stay strong man, love the channel. May well do this mod on my 5422 soon.

[@lefuzzyfern9386]

Those new pickups on the the 5422 sound so good!

[@MFJord1]

Awesome to see you connecting with your casino! I love my 330 to bits, cheers!

[@ThatPedalShow]

I think I’m going to get a 330. Just love this thing. But I need nitro. NEED I say. :0)

[@MFJord1]

@@ThatPedalShow Sorry to mention but your casino does have that typical poly sound to it...

[@stevenpape2021]

The best part was when you shook the guitar to get the washers out and the bridge fell off. Great planning :)

[@tedc6694]

Smells like schadenfreude to me

[@londonemski]

Terrific video, sir. Hadn’t played my 2007 Korean Casino with Bigsby for a while until I saw this. Fallen in love with it all over again. Thank you for that!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Yay! Nice one John!

[@Bimmer2047]

yea those filter-trons might not have the gain/output but the clarity is ALL there. and for ME that is THE sound.

[@Bikedueder]

I just got a "solid body" Gretsch with these same pickups. These pickups are EXTREMELY dependent on string proximity. I noticed my bridge was quieter, and when I looked at both, the neck pickup was an 1/8" higher by comparison. I raised the bridge pickup and the volume matched finally. I may raise both even more. I have had P90's up to a half inch away from the strings, and still have decent output.

[@Bikedueder]

Another Gretsch (G5235T) I have had the chrome minihumbuckers, and I am not a huge fan of them. I am awaiting a set of DeArmond Dynasonics for it as I type this. They should improve the tone quite a bit, and should sound as good as My G3110 Historic Series.

[@nicholasg923]

For stringing the Bigsby, pre bend the ball ends around some pliers creating a u-shape. Use a capo too if you want.

[@neiladdison5614]

Love your reference to the big black dog and the ease with which you speak about it.♥️

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thanks Neil. Speaking about it here has been perhaps the biggest help of all. Hope you can talk about it too. :0) Best to you geezer!

[@conanbrophy4406]

Very happy 5422 owner here. Stunning guitars

[@homeautismtreatment]

Yeah, me too! It's got something to it for sure. I've even owned a higher end Duo Jet and though it definitely played better, the 5422 had the tone I was looking for.

[@conanbrophy4406]

@@homeautismtreatment Yes! Tone to die for. I was really surprised to see Mick change out the blacktop filtertrons. Yes, they are low output, but as far as I'm concerned they make the 5422. I love them more than any other pickups. And isn't that what gain pedals are for??? I have to boost the shit out of mine to compete with my Tele or V but it's sooooo worth it. It's also the one I do 90% of my recording with, which tells it's own story. Probably not the ideal gigging guitar, but if tone is what you're after...

[@SingSurfStrum]

In my humble opinion. Some of the most professionl content broadcast today for the guitar lovers of the world. Thank you

[@ChrisHendrix117]

In the event no one has mentioned it, use a capo to hold the string to the neck while you get it put thru the tuners and to some tension. It’ll save you time and money on swear jar deposits.

[@bkebradley]

I can't believe I never thought of this before, thank you!

[@TheJhkjhkjh]

Also, you can pre-bend the string into a hook-ish kind of shape by using some plyers so they don't come off. There's some useful tips on Mike Adams (@puisheen)'s channel for Bigsby vibratos

[@lance134679]

Great tips! I watched several videos on changing the strings on Bigsby-equipped guitars to figure out how to easily change the strings, but then I bought an after market device from Vibramate called the String Spoiler and it solved that problem quite handily.

[@ianjarrold6423]

...also check out the Vibramate Spoiler. Simples.

[@JamieClark]

The real life pro tip is always in the comments 😎

[@Beachbumartist]

The Epiphone has a much brighter sound and the Gretsch seems to more muffled and not as hot. I'm glad you did this because i think it showed that the Epihpone seemed just better quality or something. Would be great to hear the Epiphone vs a Gretsch Streamliner g2655 with the new BroadTron pickups. Thanks so much.

[@kokobily]

A new guitar (or pickup) can always stir some creative juice! Let me just say, you 're our small black dog!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Ah man. Thank you so much for that. Being of some use is what keeps us going. And I say that without any hint of condescension or self deprecation. Thank you.

[@gbarge4]

Mick, Well done again. I do enjoy these very much. Funny how in my childhood, there were two types of tubing. "Surgical tubing" was for slingshots and wrist rockets. "Aquarium tubing"" was for, well, aquariums. (Aquaria?) It's to get the air from the compressor to the ornamental aerators, which often look like sunken ships or treasure chests, as my brother's did. Growing up in the '60's... You're getting pretty proficient at pickup switch outs. The cheerful-o-meter is registering higher during the process. This video feels much like hanging out in the shop with "my" tech, which is fascinating and a joy. I miss hanging out and chatting. Larry Cragg is a wizard and wonderful guy. And has more than a few spellbinding stories. Just knowing he worked on a guitar makes me love playing it. There's a bit of life transferred into the instrument from all that care and experience. I'm also nicking your CXM 1978 settings. Which Morgan amp is that beside you in the common room? Thanks so much for all this. Very well done indeed. (the audio, momentarily not perfect, didn't take away) G

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thank you G! That Morgan is a Dual 20 I think. We didn’t love it at first, but then heard it with Simon’s goldtop and it sounded mega. I think the speakers we have - big magnet Creambacks - don’t do it any favours. We should play more. Best to you as always!

[@gbarge4]

@@ThatPedalShow Ahhh. I have enjoyed my AC20 with a chameleon cab, which also has a Creamback, but then I don't know any better. It does seem to take pedals nicely. I grew up a Beatles fan, so the Vox-like tone touches my heart. I appreciate your replies and the diligence it takes to keep connected to the community you two have built. And, it must be said, nurture. Much respect. And all the best, as always. -G

[@joeykelly5642]

I’m a big fan of those stock Gretsch Blacktop Filtertron pickups - they’re in my gigging guitar, and I have no plans on replacing them.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Cool! I liked their tonality very much... but whether it was something peculiar about this guitar, they were just lost next to my other guitars. Cheers!

[@craig.encinitas]

I have a G6659 with Tim Shaw FullTron pickups. It’s been challenging finding information on them. If they’re even used in other guitars. They sound great, however.

[@joeykelly5642]

@@ThatPedalShow Absolutely - I was stunned by the difference in output between those Lollars and the Blacktops. The Casino sounded fantastic in that context! Great video as always!

[@mattheweastel129]

Great to see a pup swap on a semi hollow, I’ve been too afraid to attempt it myself! I have the same Gretsch as you with stock pups, I use it with very little gain, LOADS of reverb and some tremolo. That’s where I find it happiest. Btw, I use needle nose pliers to slightly bend the strings at the ball ends before putting on the bigsby posts, works a treat

[@prdgmshft9107]

I’ve heard ppl say that Gretsch is what ppl think of when they want to buy a guitar but end up buying something else. Personally I love my electromatic.

[@joeladams2540]

Same here

[@riphopfer5816]

Likewise. I own a 2019 Airline Silver Electromatic Jet, which I’ve upgraded and modified over the last 2.5 years into an amazing psychedelic/stoner rock machine. It can do everything from brutal to ethereal. I also own one of the G2255-P90s (also heavily modified) , although now they’ve just released a new line of Electromatics equipped with soap bar P90s that sound MUCH more like my ideal P90 tone, I kinda wish I’d held off on the 2255.

[@adventuresofislandmanec5290]

​@@riphopfer58166:05 ❤❤❤❤

[@compucorder64]

It's definitely kind of true. I probably worked through adding the more standard Tele, 335, Strat, Les Paul, Jazzmaster, SG, Mustang, Casino. And then even a more unusual ones like the Baum Wingman, which is fantastic. Before finally getting to Gretsch, and got one of those Electromatic Pristine Jet's in White Gold. Love it. The surge in Beatles interest again, probably gave the Epiphone Casino & Gretsch Jet more attention again. I always loved the guitar tones of AC/DC and The Cult, and love what Julien Lage does with this style of pickup too. Hermanos Gutiérrez are giving Gretsch a bit more visibility too, with one of the brothers playing an awesome tangerine Gretsch Chet Atkins. Probably work my way toward a Firebird next year, even if just the cheaper Epiphone Vintage Burst without the banjo tuners. Before the discontinue it. A Jaguar would be nice too, though probably get a Squier and spend some time and money on it.

[@tedc6694]

That was the coolest instrumental I've heard in a long time. I'm going to spend the rest of the day trying to duplicate it in garageband (yes "day" I'm blessed with not being a perfectionist). Thank you for the inspiration!!!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Niiiiice! Cheers Ted. So each of the rhythm guitars has two amps. One with tremolo and one without. Each panned slightly left and right. That might help!

[@keflim6661]

You are so real... I love it!!" You are me, from your self battles to the semi ocd..I wish I could play like you though. Great video Mick!!!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thank you! I think all guitar players are a little bit the same. :0)

[@boogingtonthunderwood8969]

You oughtta put a Tru-Arc bridge on that 5422 to finish ‘er off. Night and day.

[@vincet68]

Great episode - love the whole thing, and the track at the end is great! The TVJones pups are a revelation in that guitar.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thank you Vince!

[@craigridley9618]

Sounds great mick, thanks for sharing! Dynasonics are magical! I’ve always felt like my hands and playing were very exposed through the amp with them, could all be in my head as i’ve played them but never owned a guitar with them... I’m determined to put one in one of my tele’s necks- but i really like the neck on telecasters 🤷‍♂️😂

[@ThatPedalShow]

Cheers Craig. That would be super interesting to try!

[@fposmith]

Dynasonics are the best single coil pickup I've ever used !

[@rhodwilliams3041]

I must admit I quite like the weedy nature of my gretsch pickups in my electromatic. Just recorded an ep of britpop style stuff with them. Horses for courses I guess

[@ThatPedalShow]

I’m with you Rhod. They sounded really cool.... but I’d have to reset everything for it. More poke, easier life!

[@theresejardinier3913]

I like mine, too. I find that it is easier to get the sounds I want (no fizzy OD or clipping tremolo), and to balance the two amp channels. It took ages to dial in my other guitars that have higher outputs.

[@AZFunk]

great playing Mick! thoroughly enjoyed the vid, even the oops's ;)

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thanks! Loads of oops. Hahaha! I used to get annoyed about it. Now I know that nobody gives a shit about anything anyway so it’s all good. Hahahah.

[@steverolfeca]

In the mid-70's, I picked up a '64 Gretsch Country Gentleman for $275. Lovely guitar, with a sweeter, smaller sound than my other guitars. Something of a one-trick pony, and I moved it along after a year. The Electromatic strikes me the same way- while I can see enjoying the stock one in some circumstances, hearing the Casino with Lollars gave me a new appreciation for it. Plus, the price difference means that after upgrades, it's still cheaper than a stock Gretsch. The Bigsby and the art deco appearance are a factor if you like them, but I personally wouldn't miss either.

[@PeteAxeShields]

Both beautiful in their own right but give me the Casino every time. It is, perhaps, my favourite guitar of all time ... and those P90 pickups are astounding - great upgrade. Great playing by the way Mick - loved the stuff at the end x

[@jsmoker10]

My man✌️

[@nilsx3020]

Beautiful day here in Germany, finally some sun, I'm off and enjoying this with a cuppa. Perfect day?

[@weedywet]

Frankly I thought that Gretsch had a lot more 'Gretsch personality' with the Filtertrons. I would love to hear it with TV Jones Filtertrons. But having said that when you first played straight chords with no pedals on both guitars, I thought the Gretsch was much nicer, FWIW. I have a G5422 too, and I just keep it for when I really want that distinctive Gretsch top end on a record. The Casino is certainly more of an 'all round' Guitar (ask The Beatles, obviously), but in that regard I default to an SG!

[@classicraceruk1337]

SPG= Special Patrol Group they were a part of the Met police that was disbanded. That’s why the young ones used this name.

[@robbieredball]

There was a similar named unit in Liverpool, just as vile as the London one.

[@fearnpol4938]

Disbanded due to their provocation to violence and the finding of unlawful weapons in the lockers of several members, baseball bats, knuckle dusters etc. As The Professionals sung, Special Patrol, Licensed to Kill. And in NI they did just that.

[@classicraceruk1337]

@@fearnpol4938 Yup I remember them well scumbags the lot of them especially in London. I never went to NI.

[@classicraceruk1337]

@@robbieredball Does not surprise me at all.

[@theresejardinier3913]

As Michael Moorcock put it - the "non-community police".

[@DavidMartin-tk4fs]

Cant help thinking the midlife upgrade to the '422 centre trestle to reduce feedback possibly took away some of its original casinoy (is that a word) snarl? Maybe you need an early one to throw similar pick ups in? You have to leave them in when you give it back though. 😉 You're a couple of years in now. Has your top strap pin come loose or the bridge started to clack when you bend notes? I am putting on a roller tune-o-matic to hopefully solve that. Enjoyed the build, hopefully would not have made as many school boy errors - probably deluding myself. Nice to see the '422 wound the Epiphone back in when it had equivalent mods - first comparison felt a bit unfair.

[@Just_lift_anyone]

I've just refitted my Casino with lovely looking locking tuners - backwards 🤣 Oops! They still work though, sort of.. I swear towards the end of this vid my Casino was looking at me as if to say, "See, see what I can do!" xD

[@davidrose415]

gretsch is the ultimate guitar hands down. i want the centerboard semi hollow body gretsch with the three gretsch pickups. they are $599 at guitar center right now.

[@dowaliby1]

The Gretch sounds amazing and those Lollar P90's have elevated the Casino immeasurably. Great playing Mick! Pickups make all the difference - they are to an electric guitar as a speaker is to an amp.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thank you Alfred. I still constantly surprised when I pick it up! I'll be doing the 335 next. Hoping for a similar life-giving transformation. Cheeres!

[@NewHopeAudio]

this video just makes me want a casino even more! Excellent work as always. Love the natural finish as well.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thanks Kyle!

[@carlito5552]

Schoolboy error #73, just vacuumed up all the nuts and screws...no worries, just dump out the vacuum bag and sift through this heeeeerree and there we are back and running. Haha love your vids my man!!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Hahaha!!!

[@richardsp2794]

Loved the sounds. Inspiration as ever Mick, my Gretsch has been hanging for 2 months unplayed with slack strings waiting for a clean and polish and new strings. All done and used it to track 2 songs! Canny lad!

[@dr_tomK]

I have the exact same Gretsch. Saw it hanging on the wall of my local music shop and walked away with it. The first arrived sounding good, but after reading a few forum posts, I realized the pickups came set far too low. Raised them up with a few turns of the screwdriver. Incredible difference! The pickups just came to life. I can understand going the single coil route but I say do some adjustments and give the Gretsch pickups a chance. They're really very nice. The 'P90's' that came with my Chinese Epiphone Casino are pretty nice. I can't see spending the couple of hundred on a set of Lollars would be justified by my ear.

[@j.j.riverhill2831]

Oh yes it would be worth the pickup change

[@cass2771]

39:35 ‘There is a bit of tidying up to be done in the & hole’. All jokes aside - What tidying up? How can you tidy things up when the pots and pups are fitted? Nice work. Nice outcome (I quite like a Gretsch). Thank you!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Pushing the wires out of the visual way. :0)

[@chomartin2093]

I really like fenders for there versatility, but that casino is really something 👍

[@KKMcK1]

Hey! I said James Bond before you did! Again, very nice job on that 'Gentleman Jim' track!!! Very nice indeed!!!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thanks Kieron!

[@SquareWaveSymphonies]

Wow, those new pickups are worlds apart from the old ones. And I thought the Gretsch sounded great in the beginning. Awesome new PU's.

[@ridesingletrack]

Great video, Mick. I really enjoy researching, doing the work myself, and learning along the way too. I feel so much more connected to my guitars in general after having done some mods along the way. I think it's also part of what's caused me to be less precious about them, actually appreciating the little nicks and dings they've gotten along the way. The Gretsch really came alive with the new pickups, and mannnnn that Casino sounds fantastic! Cool track at the end. All around, good stuff! Cheers to you and the TPS crew.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Totally get you on the connected thing. I feel that too. Cheers CO!

[@johnbeloe]

A world of improvement to the Gretsh to my ears Mick. Fantastic playing as always ✌️

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thank you Johnny!

[@EricNielsen85]

Loved this comparison. Thanks!!..

[@danmist]

I vote Gretsch. The Casino doesn't really do it for me for some reason.

[@boxerfencer]

P90s miss the jangle

[@neptunebob]

Nice, but it kind of invalidates the comparison between two guitars when both of them have their pickups replaced. It becomes a race between the replacement pickups, and kind of leaves the guitars behind. It would be more helpful to guitar shoppers to hear the guitars as they are, and consider upgrades and such afterwards. Otherwise, what are we comparing?

[@ThatPedalShow]

There’s a separate video on the Casino pickup swap. The better pickups just help them be better versions of themselves. Cheers!

[@robinmiller7958]

A new room! The black pickups really look cool on that Casino.

[@youssefkasim7556]

The D’armond style pickups are my favorite type of pickup. So percussive and clean.

[@Dave-mb7kb]

Those Lollar P-90s sound fantastic! Now I have to change the pups in my Riviera...

[@outsidethepyramid]

I have one word for you: Flippin' brilliant !

[@robertprice5039]

I have been digging the new Gretsch Electromatics lately. I have a Player Series Broadkaster, but I have a hollowbody, semi-hollowbody, and chambered solidbody each of the Electromatics, and I love them. A few months ago I was Jonesing for a ES-335, but I found the Player Series Broadcaster, and I am very happy with my choice. The Shaw Fulltron Pickups are great.

[@80daytripper]

I wonder does Gretsch feel much more bigger guitar to play, is there a big difference when comparing body sizes or neck lenght (upper fret access)? Casino feels super comfortable to play - is light and neck being compact due to 16th fret neck joint, but how about Gretsch? Anyone who owns both of these guitars? Great video again, many thanks!

[@thejacobean]

I had an oddly specific set of questions tonight and this video (in addition to your other 5422TG videos...) answered all of them. Such great content consistently coming from this channel. Great work!

[@taokichavez9319]

nice fishing story and really nice video, thanks for sharing :D

[@Zwidawurzn]

I have a green Gretsch 5620T made 2013 in the same SPG Factory like your white Gretsch. At first i just wanted to have a look at the cheaper Gretsch Streamliner when they came out but my local music store only had some Electromatic, i took a look and i instantly fell in love with this 5620T with Cat's Eye soundholes so i decided it's worth to spend double the price of a Streamliner on that guitar and it's my favorite guitar now, still enjoy picking it up after several years of owning it. Yes the pickups could have a little more power, i've set the bridge pickup quite close to the strings but all parts are still stock so this is very interesting for me. You got some great sounds with the new pickups!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Cool. Cheers Zwid! They are such cool things!

[@paultownsend6043]

That epiphone just has a awesome blues tone.

[@robbieredball]

Bought my dad a Korean Gretsch 5420t a few years back and its fantastic for the money. Hate the floating bridge though and thinking about getting a tech to pin it.

[@guillermocereijidolopez4657]

Nice vid Mick, noisy heartbeat here too!

[@watchfortheweekend4057]

Great stuff, really enjoyed the whole video. Made me feel the need for a semi hollow to make my own, probably pick up a 335 type from Harley Benton or the firefly. Theses are my budget if I’m looking at upgrading parts......509 dollars 😬🥴🥴ouch. Love it , thanks Mick.

[@artadrians]

Hey Guys, big HELLO from Australia...I've been looking at AIO (All In One) Guitars and THEY APPEAR to be something special, especially on price and equipment..ANY CHANCE of a REVIEW..???😊

[@arthurblackhistoric]

I've got the Gretsch, and I love it. Really sweet tone, perfect for slide playing. I plugged it into my Marshall VS15R, selected the neck pickup, and was rewarded with Robbie Krieger's (from the Doors) slide tone. Of course I play it conventionally as well.

[@musicmnw1982]

First I thought you were on drugs.... Then I thought I was on drugs. I finally realized the video was playing a 75% speed.

[@petermapstone9684]

Hey Mick, great vid. Pre - bend a loop on the bridge end of your strings before you sit them on the post of the Bigsby. That will stop the “pinging “ off when you’re not ready.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Good tip!

[@shckltnebay]

Pickups are at least 80% of a electrics sound, Very nice very expensive Mogan amp behind Mick

[@ThatPedalShow]

Meaning the last 20 per cent doesn’t matter? I love this argument - trying to measure art and creativity on some linear scale. The only thing that actually matters is the performance. And you can’t measure that either. So where are we now!?

[@shckltnebay]

@@ThatPedalShow Just stating, as your videos show, pickups make the most difference

[@marc_leblanc]

I've always thought that the Gretsch pick ups sound too similar to single coils. I play telecasters so I'd go more for the Epiphone for a different character. I would probably choose humbuckers over P90s though.

[@Mr3DBob]

So, you're absolutely sure that TVJoneses are substantially better than the Gretsches? My main reason for liking Gretsches is the pups. I even have a PRS clone that my buddy put some Filtertrons in, and it made it come alive, compared to the so-so PAF-style hummers. OK, later; now I hear it!

[@stevec.1802]

Love the sound and versatility of the P90's in the Casino. Has a bit of a snarl that's very useful.

[@xxx-tj6cj]

This was a great video, I always wondered how those pickups would compare, I was thinking to get Dearmonds for a long time but now I think P-90 is my choise, good job

[@KristofferVad]

Mick I know you spend a long time doing these but be assured that the result is amazing. I am not referring to the sound of the new pickups (they sound great, look even better, I still prefer the casino), I am talking about the quality of the content and production. I am in awe of your ability to convey the ‘story’ as well as produce something to this level. Calling these vlogs is doing these films an injustice. Now excuse me - I am off to Reverb to find a casino to mod!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thank you so much Kristoffer, that’s a very kind thing to say! Cheers man, good luck on Reverb!

[@KristofferVad]

@@ThatPedalShow thanks - I fear your success with the Casino has driven up prices a bit ;)

[@cowieson]

I’m returning to this video a year later as I’m GASing for a Gretsch double cut… RIP my wallet!

[@tomhand1070]

Mick the track at the end was inspired!!! Please release that as part of the upcoming EP!! Please!! Please!! Please!! 😁

[@ThatPedalShow]

Ha! Thanks Tom! It was a joke really... funny how the fun stuff sometimes turns out good!

[@tomhand1070]

@@ThatPedalShow if you have fun doing it, we have fun watching and listening to it! Cheers!

[@davidharding200]

The cost of pickup replacement is just prohibitive in my view unless you can do it yourself. I have an 2021 Epiphone Casino I bought brand new for $1000🇦🇺. To have the Lollars put in I’m looking at $700🤦‍♂️.

[@evanarview]

There’s nothing I love more than listening to British people get mildly perturbed at something

[@camhaines5482]

That little diddy at the end has inspired me to try garage band. You started with a basic drum beat and went on from there. I think I can do that.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Yes! Go for it Cam. Garage Band is spectacularly good!