Grievous The Republic General: Star Wars Rethink

[@LoreGuy]

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[@lionheart1234]

Please, someone make a full FanFiction with this idea and with Grevious as an Inquisitor!

[@Torterra625]

There’s one hole in this scenario and it’s a big one: if Grievous never joined the CIS, who would have taught him lightsaber combat if not Dooku?

[@RyanTheDark]

Well, R.I.P Separatist.

[@alexanderkaizer1095]

It's possible that despite all the fear he'd bring, some, if not many, would see him as a war hero for the victories he'd won for the Republic, and the rogue/traitorous Jedi he took down. He also remained loyal to the Republic to the end and perhaps Palpatine could have used him as the reason for why the Jedi's plot to assassinate him failed. That would make him a very important symbol of justice and loyalty. Keeping all this in mind, I believe that along with the fact that Grievous would be extremely useful in hunting down surviving Jedi, it'd make more sense for Palpatine to keep the cyborg general after the war ended.

[@erikthomsen4768]

But if he joins the Empire we would have a whole second set of problems. Sure the glory seeking Generationals and the ruthlessly clever would appreciate his style of leadership. But there was also xenophobic officers. And many of the newer officers would have grown up with an alien-centric enemy narrative. Perhaps General Grievous could have survived through his reputation. Grand Admiral Thrawn and Grand Vizier Mas Amedda were also not humans. We know for fact that these two survived at the top of the Imperial food chain through a combination of skill within their respective field and favoritism with the Emperor. Since the creator(s?) of this KZbin channel usually never pushes any scenario beyond one era, we will probably never get a part two. Or three. starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Generationals starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Speciesism starwars.fandom.com/wiki/General_Orders_(Galactic_Empire)

[@zebjensen4251]

@@erikthomsen4768 well admidently that is a good point the empire was exnophobic but who needs to know. he is a cyborg wearing armour so sidious could just monkey around with the records a bit. and besides that unless you know you wouldn't be able to tell he was any race as even sidious had yellow eyes.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

At first I thought this was a bit silly until I realized just how much grievous hated the othet sepratist leaders. Though I would be curious as to where he would get his cybernetics from, I’d like to think in this timeline the republic had treated grievous homeworld nice. I’d be curious to hear banter between grievous and kenobi without it leading to them fighting.

[@Kh0rne8]

Grievous actually mentioned how the Clones were superior Warriors in every way and openly stated this to his higher ups. Also since he was a caleesh before I think this would end up very differently then just a merciless murder Maschine. He would definatly get back at those that send the Jedi to subdue his previous war efforts as a kaleesh General and would work superbly well with clone troopers. Especially in the early days of the clone wars when the Jedi sucked at their Role as Generals he would be a star like no other. Many anti Jedi Factions would rally behind his image and sidious would have had an even easier game condemning them. Order 66 would go as well as you mentioned I mean how do you stop Vader and Grievous? A mayor change would be that he or both would be send to Mustafa which would make for an amazing what if continuation. Anyways great sneak peak into this Szenario you should do a follow up

[@0wl_777]

I think Sidious will allow Grievous join empire, he does fit in empire's military doctrines pretty well with his use of fear tactics.

[@republicempire446]

I don’t know. The idea sounds good but it requires changes on his origin stories.

[@thenerdbase8019]

Republic Empire can you explain that?

[@rustedgreatsword4902]

Could keep most of it except he learns of what Dooku and the banking clan did to his body and mind. Maybe Sidious would call him over to the republic so he could be a figure to lead against the jedi with clones.

[@republicempire446]

Rusted GreatSword that works too

[@torntokoroa]

@@thenerdbase8019 Remember, the whole reason he hated the Jedi, it was because they came along and destroyed his people after they were convinced tovby another species on the same planet. That's also the same reason why he hated the Republic because they were convinced that his people were the villains in the confrontation. For him to join the Republic would mean that instead the Jedi and the Republic instead helped him during the war with those attacking his people and the CIS had something to do with killing off his people and maybe turning him into a abomination.

[@stephenquinn7931]

Here's my version, it goes the same except the Republic help the kaleesh instead of the huk, now they would request him to join the Republic military and he would agree, things go well but a few months in he is Nearly killed and was rebuilt into the grievous we know, he would blame the jedi as he was under a jedi's command and that gives him the hatred, refusing to work with a jedi he is giving his own legion and his story goes the same way as the video

[@emmanuelmorris7653]

What if Ventress joined the Jedi after she was betrayed by Dooku? What if maul and obi-wan worked together after order 66? Obi-wan cut him in half but Palpatine tortured him killed his family tortured him killed his family and toss him away.

[@jamesdavis9036]

I have no doubt there are some fanfictions about this

[@Jacaerys1]

Ventress did join the Jedi after that and fell In love with the one with the braids. She ultimately died saving him.

[@jamesdavis9036]

@@Jacaerys1 Quinlan Vos. That was his name

[@emmanuelmorris7653]

Jalen I mean join right after she was betrayed and join her mother, also she worked for the Jedi she didn't join them.

[@alexanderkaizer1095]

I've always wondered what would have happened had the Jedi Order came and saved Ventress' Jedi Master before he got killed, brought the pair back to Coruscant and the young Padawan, (at the time), was officially welcomed into the Jedi Order by the Council.

[@ELICARIO12345]

Grevious would join the republic if Dookus agents didint mess with his head and learned who killed his men and cost him his body, I believe the Senate would use him as a “Executioner” agent to whip out fallen Jedi, troublesome bounty hunters and lead elite teams of clones into battle but would be hated and respected by clones and Jedi for his skills, but as you said he would still bear a grudge against the Jedi for his home worlds suffering , come order 66 I think it’s 50/50 on helping or killing Jedi , but take the killing route I think Sidious would keep him as a Enforcer like Vader only as a personal bounty hunter like gig, hunting who was deemed trouble like the rebels and Luke sky walker, forcing grievous to fight Vader on several occasions

[@thenerdbase8019]

I would love to see a good General Grievous, but him killing Ahsoka would make the fans go against this, Star Wars making him SAVING Ahsoka would make him a better character

[@liker-qd4fz]

That would avaken the Rule 34 demons.

[@yeetyeet5079]

@@liker-qd4fz oof

[@DeusExAngelo]

I love this idea and the twist...though as someone mentioned it require quite a lot of changes from even now current Canon. Would Grievous still be a cyborg or would he be a full Kaleesh? Would he still gain training with Lightsabers? How would this affect Kalee and the Kaleesh who suffered during the Republic’s intervention of the Yam’rii/Huk - Kaleesh War. I think it would still be a fun “what-if” and still possible but a lot of changes would need to be made.

[@timbartschwolfman]

Instead of Hating the Jedi Grievous would Love the Jedi and I think he would have Survived Order 66

[@robertwadsworth3411]

No I doubt it cause they were a major reason his people suffered.

[@davidsun3511]

I find that in this theoretical scenario if Grievous were to serve the republic there's the possibility he may not need to undergo the transformation into the Jedi killing cyborg, even the name Grievous may just be an alias and that he may still use his given name Qymaen jai Sheelal. He will be more valued for his tactical geniuses than his combat prowess.

[@robertwadsworth3411]

I thought he took the name Grievous after watching his mate die in the Huck war. Also I can see Grievous training his clones to fight like himself.

[@davidsun3511]

@@robertwadsworth3411 Granted what I think is only a possibility because if Grievous were to serve the grand scheme of Sidious as a general in the clone army, a lot of what we knew in the original story might have to change in order for there to be enough incentive for him to willing serve the republic in the war.

[@0ramjet]

i know i probly wont get a reply but hear me out i feel grievous would actually change a bit considering he has clones rather then droids fight along side actually warriors rather then mindless droids he despises would probably feel a bit of pride in his troops granted i do agree with them become more ruthless and well warrior like grievous but i also feel the jedi would try to keep a jedi with him as to keep him a bit under control which in my option could lead to maybe some untie understands if there these jedis( ankin obiwan shaak ti mace windu or yoda) granted qin lin vas would hate him along with pon kreel but i feel he might grow little more respect fighting along side the jedi

[@yeetyeet5079]

Ch I agree

[@FEAROWNAGE]

So long as Grievous remains useful, Palps would keep him around. 👌

[@davidsun3511]

Just one thing, who's going to teach Grievous the intricates of lightsaber combat if not Count Dooku? I imagine maybe someone like Pong Krell might be a willing teacher given his overall ruthlessness in the clone wars.

[@simlucien]

I was today years old when I realized my life needs a buddy cop anything of Vader and Greivous hunting Jedi. The kills and one liners were be better than zombieland.

[@madisonatteberry9720]

Grievous would have his uses during the war but after the war Sidius would have no real need for him and see Grievous as a liability. The Generals actions during the war would cause many to question as to why the Emperor as to why he would keep around such a figure.

[@chaoticwj1772]

The Galactic Marines would be the perfect Clone Legion for Grievous.

[@Jacaerys1]

I'm simple to please, just make a Grevious vid and I watch.

[@MrKarnator]

Hmm, can you imagine the Elite Clone Troops of Grievous could be sort of like the Magnaguards? Staff fighting and all, and with some enhancements.

[@bouncyblight2001]

That’s basically the senate/imperial guards now that I think about it

[@AaronDarkus]

1. The CIS would be somewhat even more doomed. Grievous was the one who made a coherent and cohesive army full of tons of different battle models, not produced by the same corporations. 2.We would have a lot more of "Hello There" and "General Kenobiiiiii", but in a more friendly manner.

[@jdstudios1912]

I think if grevious served the Republic he would be granted a high ranking position within the empire and would likley be used as a tool to alienate the jedi from the Republic military and could be used to drive the jedi into trusting palpatine who would openly object to and clash with grevious over his more zealous actions despite likely ordering them. This would possibly make order 66 more effective as the obvious enemy to the jedi would be grevious and not palpatine so his betreyal would be far more damaging. Also solidifying palpatine as emperor in the eyes of the galaxy when "grevious and the jedi attempted to use the war they started using Dooku to seize control of the galaxy".

[@Wi-Fi-El]

I think a republic grievous would probably join the empire. Grievous is very loyal to sidious, and would support the transition to monarchy, so sidious wouldn't have much to gain from killing him, especially since he's a victorious ally in this timeline. Sidious would recognize his value, and he would probably be tasked with terrorizing rebels or training the inquisitors to fight

[@DefinitelyNotEmma]

Alone the fact that he would be immensely valuable during order 66 would make Palpatine keep him in the GAR. Even in imperial time I think he would be around, with Sidious and Vader doing Sith business while grievous hunts down the last Jedi and Rebels

[@mortyfray1337]

It was actually pretty plausible. The Republic could've easily given aid and reparations to Kalee in exchange for Grievous' surrender and/or cooperation in the war, instead of just going after him against even the jedi way. The Republic lives and assets spared his wrath would've been worth the investment. A redemption arc of his character could've easily been done like this if they kept his canon legends.

[@neofulcrum5013]

General Veers joins the Rebellion Rethink

[@IndigoEuphonium]

I think Palpatine would've also made him a sleeper agent to carry out Order 66, just like the Clones

[@soontir_fel1816]

If grievous was with the republic. He would be more organic then cyborg as he was in the main timeline. I believe he would be more honor bound.

[@justmenoah1729]

What if grievous was force sensitive but instead of being part of the CIS like in the original timeline, he was taken in by the jedi council after the republic helped his home world. Basically what if Grievous was good.

[@bouncyblight2001]

Grievous’s one weakness was not being force sensitive. Which is why he had to use intimidation and fear before engaging so the Jedi(s) force abilities were hindered. If he was force sensitive he’d be quite possibly the most powerful Jedi or Sith depending what side he’s on.

[@lionheart1234]

Please, someone make a full FanFiction with this idea and with Grevious as an Inquisitor!

[@nickvinsable3798]

Well, I doubt Sidious would allow any & all potential threats to him, especially the ones he has created himself, to continue to exist when they’re done being useful & such.

[@Bluesonofman]

I was thinking he would join because of his hate for droids. Just like he joined the CIS because of his hate for Jedi.

[@talentlessbird3572]

Shorter than I'd expect for a general

[@thorshammer7883]

How powerful are Turbolasers and Ion cannons normally in the Extended Universe?

[@robertwadsworth3411]

Overkill is lowballing it.

[@chadkingoffuckmountain970]

As powerful as needs be

[@ricosintron2075]

A turbo laser shot is equivalent to several nuclear detonations of similar yield to those dropped on Japan

[@user-ft3jq5vi2l]

I first thought this was stupid but it would acttually be a very good idea supposing this timeline also changes the outcome of the huk war.

[@ethantrimble958]

I don’t think grievous would save lives If he joined the republic. I think grievous would just be focus on winning the war and destroying the separatists at all costs.

[@bouncyblight2001]

Same, I think Pong Krell is an excellent example of if Grevious joined the republic

[@matttopiol4511]

Could you please do. What if mandalore Joined the rebellion 🙂

[@jamesdavis9036]

Secretly or openly? By secretly, I mean just finding and supplying.

[@matttopiol4511]

Greg Davis Both 🙂

[@jamesdavis9036]

@@matttopiol4511 Then Mandalore would meet the same fate as Alderaan

[@HORRIOR1]

If Grievous were to be part of the Empire, the rebel alliance at its early days would not have survived for long.

[@grandmofftarkin6415]

Grivous and vader hunting jedi together is badass

[@yeetyeet5079]

Grievous and Jedi/sith are my favorite commanders they can act like their own special forces

[@ItsButterBean1020]

All up you know he'd be frontline during Order 66

[@paddydelaney799]

Thanks for this great video

[@Cegorachthelaughinggod]

Why not. He can't use the force so he wouldn't be seen as a threat to the Sith.

[@devranhasan4969]

What if the cis/separatists join the rebellion since you did them joining the empire

[@devranhasan4969]

And perhaps adding grievous and dooku being alive and making new droid army's

[@EE-fk1rp]

Grievous would probably be incharge of rancor battalion

[@jeffheithaus9120]

Hmm I think he would keep Grievous around so Vader will have a rival and someone he need to prove to be better. So be a large contest between Grievous and Vader going out and killing Jedi and when then see each other mock one another how better one did they then other that day and switch around too. Both will clash two, but stop when the Emperor find out. So yea, Grievous would remain around longer until the down fall of the Empire.

[@bossksonofcradossk8086]

if grievous joined the republic does that mean he gonna get force powers finally?

[@ericcrabtree7075]

I can definitely see Grevious and Vader are rivals during the rise of the Empire and rebellion

[@jlion2439]

He would either be like Commander Fox or Pong Krell.

[@jacobpdeleon2747]

Umm no because he mention how he LIKED clones because they are superiors in every way

[@AlonzoTompkins]

Considering the Empire tried making Grievous 2 the murdering in the Legends timeline, I think Palpatine would keep him around.

[@torntokoroa]

Ehhh.. See. For him join the Republic i think he's need to feel different about the Jedi. Remember, the whole reason he hated the Jedi it was because they came along and destroyed his people. That's also the same reason why he hated the Republic because they were convinced that his people were the villains in the confrontation. For him to join the Republic would mean that instead the Jedi and the Republic instead helped him during the war with those attacking his people. Thats my opinion at least.

[@nusretalpyuceyavuz]

On your feet clone we are leaving

[@beno2002]

He would have gotten a lot of find additions during order 66.

[@ChristianAllen-bo9lj]

Good vid

[@thecrusaderhistorian9820]

I would keep him.

[@zebjensen4251]

I think sidius would use him lest he die in battle I mean he was loyal to a fualt to sidius he is not about to betray as sidius gave him everything he could ever want. And so long as sidius gave grievous jedi to kill and his people some autonomy grievous would likly have no complaint about working for sidius as emperor.

[@uncleqrow5941]

Will he be kalesh or cyborg

[@SaintBrokenDay316]

I need republican grievous fan fiction! And i need it now!

[@NobleS1236]

Depends. Is it modern Grievous or Clone Wars 2003 Grievous?

[@Verdha603]

I’d definitely agree with Grievous being a double edged sword. Considering the moral and ethical implications raised by the Republic during the Clone Wars, I would safely hazard a guess that he would be outright despised by a majority of the Republic civilian populace, most Senators that weren’t already in Sidious’s inner circle, and by the Jedi Council almost down to a man, but I could also see Grievous being elevated to a hero status due to the execution of Order 66 and highlighting both his victories as a military leader during the Clone Wars and his loyalty in executing members of the Jedi Order, carving a path open for the Galactic Empire. I would even hazard another guess and say he would take a position as one of the leaders of the Imperial Inquisitor’s, hunting down Jedi and training the next generation of Jedi killers, before potentially having him slain by Vader after deducing the Sith Apprentice’s identity and being silenced by Vader in order to avoid having that news become public knowledge.

[@alfieingrouille4828]

What colors would his clone troopers use

[@marrqi7wini54]

Either standard color or some shade of grey or black. Along with Kaleesh markings (Maybe)

[@dylanbiggs3997]

@@marrqi7wini54 I could totally see that. It would remind me the way Jedi General Plo Koon had his troops have grey and wolf like markings on their armour. I just hope Grievous would have a positive relationship with his troops and other Jedi if this happened.

[@miquelcanosasanteularia1678]

Nice

[@jayegbert9864]

lets add this if the jedi join the separatists

[@lorismarchitelli5274]

I think this teory makes a big error in neglecting the fact that the personality of grievous wold be much more similar to when he was a proud kaleesh warrior since the furious merciless buccher like metods he uses in our timeline are a direct consequence of his altered brain witch destroyed his previous personality on purpose to make him a better slave. His war crimes were not "his foult" in some sense, they were ordered or at least desired my sidius to make him a public enemy for the republic

[@weldonwin]

What if Greivous was more like his Genedy Tartatovsky incarnation where he was an actual military genius, who could out think and out maneuver Jedi, rather than brute force thug he was in Disney Clone Wars?

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

weldonwin well...basically the legends timeline before clone wars existed more or less right?

[@JediAcolyte94]

What if Jaster Mereel survived the Battle of Galidraan? What if Yoda killed Dooku in Attack of the Clones? What if Pellaeon defected to the Rebel Alliance?

[@aceskip8691]

He would never join

[@TheLo1323]

Whath if the Empire won the battle of Jakku ?

[@StuartLugsden]

Whats your real name Lore Guy or is that private?

[@AssassinGTM]

How would grievous do ANYTHING like he does in canon? He would have no lightsabers and no training since that came from Dooku

[@Jacaerys1]

He could train under other people not to mention thanks to his cybernetic implants he already knew all 7 light saber forms.

[@ledanoir1239]

please. could you... speak louder? Cause seriously I cant hear a thing with maximun sound

[@MarioMario-vn3fx]

Grevious would have to be off world when the CIS attacked Courscaunt lest Palpatine have to reveal himself to prevent his capture by the Separatists. Actually, that could be a good way to get rid of him. Palpatine blasts him in the back with force lightning when he has his back to him facing Dukoo and the three are alone. would be easy to manipulate the cameras if it's in an area where plapatine can easily do it

[@SR-cv9hj]

separatist propaganda goes brrrrrrr

[@Fungal-up6yl]

First

[@chaoticwj1772]

The Galactic Marines would be the perfect Clone Legion for Grievous.

[@chaoticwj1772]

The Galactic Marines would be the perfect Clone Legion for Grievous.