Grilling JR #07 WWF King of The Ring 1998

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11:30 Podcast Begins 37:00 Road 2 KOTR 56:51 KOTR

[@diluted8]

Thank you enjoy

[@Marcelg13]

thank you good sir

[@RRswag70]

@@diluted8 why you saying enjoy like you posted the video stupid?

[@alecjordan6100]

LEGEND 🙌🏾

[@BeeBumper]

@@alecjordan6100 low bar huh

[@JFoster1320]

1:50:40 for the minkind and taker match

[@adamwintz1072]

Thanks!

[@fhernandez6589]

Thanks bro 😅

[@davidatkinson80]

Thank you!

[@1ZosoLZ]

Thank god

[@Suge8263]

Thanks

[@joewalker8037]

I love Jim Ross. Listening to him reminds me of sitting with my grandfather watching wrestling at age 6.

[@neckutter]

Same. Grampa showing me wrestling in the 80’s still sticks with me

[@neuvisean1739]

Used to watch Raw is War every Monday night at my Grandpa's house

[@kennellreaves469]

@@neuvisean1739 or is that We

[@kennellreaves469]

I just

[@makaveli4205]

This will always be the best hell in the cell match in history

[@thenorsenut380]

We used to tape the ppvs on vhs. My grandpa was a huge fan and got me on wrestling as a kid. I remember me and my mom being so excited to bring the tape over and let him watch the craziness of that hell in a cell match! Good memories. Thank you Mick Foley for being a crazy tough S.O.B.!!!!

[@thenorsenut380]

Haha now that's how you get heat. You must be MJF

[@gothchicksbongrips5712]

You can see how Foley's body just crumbles as soon as it hits the ring from that chokeslam. No give and absolutely brutal.

[@adamwintz1072]

Foley had some wonderful ragdoll physics

[@jonsnipe5484]

JR sold that match... I miss hearing JR sound like he getting a heart attack when raw goes of the air

[@2010gt1]

BY GAWD!!!!

[@gothchicksbongrips5712]

Forever stuck in my mind

[@adamwintz1072]

JR had to sell, cus Foley no sold two "20 foot" falls off the cell!

[@tylercox1875]

@@adamwintz1072 *16 feet. Not 20

[@adamwintz1072]

@@tylercox1875 quotation marks are often used to denote when someone is being tongue in cheek

[@chihuahuaman7025]

I absolutely love this! Listening to you two every night as I lay in bed, Relieving some of the greatest days in wrestling is awesome. Thanks Conrad and JR!

[@guyincognito5706]

Starts at 11:30

[@chocjoc]

You the man

[@adam-thesportsguy6147]

God love you for this post man. May God bless you and yours this Holiday season!

[@justinrivera3515]

It’s people like you 🥺

[@johnjandoh6732]

@@adam-thesportsguy6147 No reason to skip the story that JR told before then. You missed dude.

[@xantastic6301]

2:32:16 click this and let it finish and hit the replay button. You're welcome.

[@VulgarBerserker316]

Brilliant, thank you!

[@troywright359]

???

[@matthewmosley1460]

Brilliant!! Thank you

[@user-fm3xr9yz3i]

Unsung Hero

[@davidatkinson80]

Not all heroes wear capes.

[@fredcorrea2705]

Love JR for not having a problem with weed but denouncing hard drugs good Job JR you know what the real problematic drugs are👍 wish more older folk would think like you

[@troywright359]

I dunno, there are some people who shouldn't touch weed or alcohol, no mater how much young society affirms them as 'totally harmless'

[@adamwintz1072]

@@troywright359 "Some people" is very different than "everybody"

[@robbiesilverwolf]

If you listen to the commentary during Svern’s match King mentions JR smoking a few joints

[@weatheredtome]

@@troywright359 give some examples then.

[@mc12358]

@@weatheredtome Example one right here. I have always had high anxiety levels and anytime I tried weed, it always made my anxiety 100x worse. I'm far happier without weed in my life, but I also think adults should be free to make up their own minds on substance use.

[@kiddbuu5178]

Single greatest call in wrestling. Top five in all sports all time.

[@flashpointblank4914]

94-98 i would listen to the ppv channel as it was scrambled. You couldnt see the picture but you could hear it. Id sit and listen thru all the ppvs

[@nicholasfarrell8403]

Me too

[@doughalagich5066]

I had a ppv box so i got to see all the ppvs for free

[@cmusa9677]

It would straighten for 5 seconds when Kane's pro went off lol

[@doughalagich5066]

That ppv box that i bought in 1996 for $150 lasted until 2001 or 2002 when everything went completely digital. But that was the best $150 i ever spent. Got every wwf ppv for free, all the new movies plus a certain spice channel lol

[@flashpointblank4914]

@@doughalagich5066 gotta have that spice lol

[@hasanibrahimovic5692]

I love you guys so much. You guys truly satisfy my wrestling sweet tooth as a 30 year old man. I love it so much. I drive a semi truck and it just gets me through every single day. God bless you guys

[@ckg1776]

I will never forget JRs commentary on this match. “They killed him” “As god is my witness he is broken in half”.

[@murraysaucedo897]

Oh man that humanitarian of the year segment in Raw was one of my favorite ever I had such a good laugh.

[@Exclusivepatg]

I was 8 years old at this show with my father ive been hooked ever since

[@gothchicksbongrips5712]

What was it like watching Foley going flying off the cell?

[@DayLateGamerWill]

@@gothchicksbongrips5712 shocking. Purely shocking, exhilarating, and absolutely a huge adrenaline rush

[@DetailDude]

It seems like theres a podcast in your commercials.

[@reptroiskingofthecity403]

😂

[@user-fm3xr9yz3i]

😂 😂

[@NEMtvOfficial]

😂😂😂

[@jayclifford9700]

😂😂😂😂

[@user-fm3xr9yz3i]

@Junior Sanchez 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[@josephohrablo4866]

Jr’s call when foley flew off the cage and when bubba put Mae young through the table was legendary

[@kirkkatana]

WWE died with Michael Cole.

[@misternewman1576]

@@kirkkatana It's not "cool" to be a wrestling fan anymore.

[@kirkkatana]

@@misternewman1576 The Undertaker is on Twitter. Says it all. Still I loved the Attitude era.

[@troywright359]

@@misternewman1576 even then, it was more of positively quirky in the eyes of outsiders, than actually 'cool'

[@roostercogburn2365]

@@kirkkatana thank you, I've been saying this for years. Cannot stand michele cole, cena, or the pg era that they ushered in. They killed the attitude era

[@ACZiemba326]

JRs breakdown of Shamrock is phenomenal. Great insight

[@jarrettallen9119]

34:19 (to J.R.).....Cooper Manning. Proud Louisiana native here. 🤙🏽💯

[@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster]

18:30. And now today they don’t care about the fans, the people that made them what they are today… not the TV deals, but the fans that got them here they’ve turned their backs on them by watering down the product not pushing the guys the fans want Reigns is the only real top guy because they don’t push the mid card guys that could get over, but the WWE isn’t edgy anymore it’s PG politically correct… on top of that they handcuffed their talent roster and water them down. Where as if they just let them be edgy and not cookie cutter the WWE would see higher ratings and better quality and fans would come back and not just for TV or PPV, but house shows. What made the WWF finally successful was the fact that they were edgy and they did try and get as many fans into the seats as possible because they depended on that crowd to pay them. Most of the WWE revenue came from their fans. Now the WWE gets its money from their TV sponsors so they don’t care about the fans they don’t care about their ratings… so they have become PG and they have been for over 15 years and that’s why I don’t watch the modern day WWE shows anymore like 90% of the old WWF audience… back when WWF ratings were getting 10 million people watching and not 1 million or 2 million people watching.

[@SJxPVR]

Never matter what I will never forget the words and sound of " good God he's broken in half"

[@denismorovic7029]

Jr is my childhood.we used to talk about raw back in 94 to 99 and.jr,king bar set hasn't been cleared yet.

[@BlueyedBadguy]

"Somebody stop the dayum match!"

[@bobray8637]

I was there that night. There was a eerie feeling all day in Pittsburgh that day. Feeling of, something is gonna happen, dont know what but, something.

[@stevetrump8823]

No,you werent.i was there and didn't see you at all.im tired of you clowns always saying you were "there".

[@bobray8637]

@@stevetrump8823 Idk section B21 on the non tv side disputes what you say

[@412StepUp]

I’m from Pittsburgh. I wasn’t there, but I’ve been lying my whole life telling people I was there. LOL.

[@mfdixon1985]

As great as JR's call was, I've always wanted to hear the Spanish announce team's call on this match.

[@tomgilmartin672]

It was probably the Spanish version of “LETS GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY!!!!”

[@nathan3961]

Why? All you would hear is "I dios mio" over and over again

[@roadblock24]

*nods in spanish announce table*

[@Highly3666]

Bro i forgot about them mick had to land right on top of them 285 pounds falling on you from 20 feet? If i was them I would've been calling that shit from the crowd or something

[@karlepaul6632]

*Ohhhhhhhh Fuuuuuuuuuucccckkkkkk!!!! (*translated from Spanish)

[@roostercake5437]

I started laughing when JR said he likes to watch afv and see fat women slip on ice becuSe he's sadistic. 😂 Just picturing that made me chuckle 😂😆😂

[@snarferyasmr3739]

"What was that fake blood made of?" ... HOW THE F WOULD JR KNOW!?!?

[@igorgolovin2492]

“Im trying to figure out in my mind. How can he do that without killing himself hahaha

[@shanecampbell7423]

So...who else wants to get high and drunk with J.R. now?

[@squitlawless]

Never disagree with Jr but the Al Snow match was hilarious. Spot on with the rest of it.

[@Sabicide]

Rewatching this a year later but yea agreed. I actually thought that was pretty clever. How else would Head get pinned? Color me throughly entertained

[@AkamoriArt]

"If you put the word 'new' in front of it , it's not going to get over." The New Day, The New World Order, The New Age Outlaws: "Are we jokes to you?"

[@Phil_KaneONite_Wood]

Well, what happened to The Day, The World Order, or The Age Outlaws? You never hear anyone talking about them these days, do you? 😂

[@delbertprince5302]

I was not aware that Vince McMahon had been thinking bout purchasing the Minnesota Vikings.....

[@big_dro1713]

I was there! AMA!

[@anto-mac]

Glad Jr said melzer is bias towards Japanese wrestling it's proved it with his star ratings past few years

[@nebraskajoenelson8987]

Can you blame him? WWE is more about entertainment than wrestling....and meltzer covers wrestling. Half the moves put over in Japan aren't even allowed in WWE.

[@marcuswhitlow548]

*biased

[@gothchicksbongrips5712]

Past few years? Go look at this of star ratings. I believe he gave Misawa 24 or 25 5 star ratings.

[@gothchicksbongrips5712]

@@nebraskajoenelson8987 this is true, but Meltzer acts as if opinion is fact and just another opinion. He enjoys the japanese style more. However that doesn't mean better. And that style gets boring when everyone on the card works the same style. Same issue with WWE.

[@nebraskajoenelson8987]

@@gothchicksbongrips5712 definitely. Too each their own. Beauty of having all these promotions is there is something for everyone. I like them all for 1 different reason or another. The only wrestling I DONT watch is WWE, and that has nothing to do with the wrestlers and EVERYTHING to do with how vince runs his company. Not everyone thinks like that....and I understand it. My favorite wrestling fans are the ones that respect each other for whatever we like.

[@bladerunner805]

Rock & Shamrock did face off a 4th time on PPV in 1998 at Survivor Series in the “Deadly Games” WWF Championship tournament..

[@BookerT69]

Did Rock ever beat him?

[@bladerunner805]

@@BookerT69 Rock won at Survivor Series 1998..

[@BookerT69]

@@bladerunner805 nah he beat Big Bossman cuz HHH ain’t show up

[@BookerT69]

@@bladerunner805 wait I’m wrong I think he did beat shamrock after bud bossman

[@omegaman6494]

Shamrock did get a WWE title match with Austin on an episode of Raw as a result of his KOTR victory, but i think he should've got a PPV title match with Stone Cold

[@BookerT69]

He also wrestled Shawn Michaels for it I think

[@omegaman6494]

@@BookerT69 Yep at the IYH DX show in Dec 1997

[@zackcrittenden9021]

The Al snow head segment wouldve been a good blue chew plug 😂😂😂

[@chrisxavier3147]

Off The Record was a great show

[@CharleyTurner]

Agreed! Still watch old episodes on KZbin

[@chrisxavier3147]

@@CharleyTurner still holds up!

[@travisdrawsstuff]

Off the Record deserves a lot of credit for its role during the 90s wrestling boom.

[@chrisxavier3147]

@@travisdrawsstuff It makes me feel nostalgic

[@damienthomas3699]

Conrad always get's the raw with Kane as champion post KOTR confused with the raw with the zamboni post Breakdown. It was the later that had the winged eagle belt not the night after KOTR.

[@danielscarpone4632]

Just thinking the same thing.

[@nicholasgreen2012]

Who added the advert (KZbin) for every 3 mins? It's too much. I'm 3 in and turning off to another video

[@gothchicksbongrips5712]

Skip to the end and let the video run out. Replay and theres no ads.

[@JUSTINCREDIBLEE]

I wonder if Vince approved this. They still run the lunch schedule by Vince. You can see the concern on vinces face but he had to of stamped that.

[@francisoreilly3116]

Great show Conrad and Jim!

[@jimmaloney1121]

Whoa, JR's late wife went to Shaler??!!! That's the school I graduated from!!

[@stevetrump8823]

No,she went to hell.

[@darthbigred22]

@28:34 Makes you wonder how many of those Non disclosures their good lawyer friend drew up for VKM. What a "hero" lawyer.

[@MikeEaster69]

Does anyone know where to find an interview of the Spanish Announce team's experience? I want to understand their version.

[@gothchicksbongrips5712]

Early days of Something To Wrestle, Conrad would take Meltzer's word as the gospel. We all remember Bruce and Conrad going back and forth about Captain Dipshit.

[@jamesbarnes7045]

I love Jim Ross's interviews there's only one thing that I I don't like he'll go on with these side stories that are attached to the date and time which they're talking about but the side stories happen that a later date he never specifies when they happen so I'm sitting here clueless on what he's talking about I'm thinking he's talking about whatever the topic is but he's talking about something that happened 30 years ago he needs to specify or go into more detail on when stuff happened

[@drewamongstus]

A headbangers vignette at a heavy metal show would have been amazing

[@BusyHusbandGaming]

Kane was presented with the Big Eagle belt, not the Winged Eagle.

[@josephboza7448]

This was a great podcast. Hope they watch this ppv one day. It felt like this whole show was nothing more than them wondering would Steve and Taker actually wrestle. Shawn and Taker tore it down in hell in the cell 1. Dont blame Mick for pulling out the stops. Felt for JR during that tag match that The King. I think secretely Vince loved that. Like Jr said he questions our intelligence all the time.

[@mikejohn3265]

Ironically I was more afraid of original Mankind than the Undertaker.

[@Rschr101]

Never made sense to take the title off Austin for one night here. The fans were PISSED. Watch the home video version with the off air footage, the crowd wanted to riot. Wasnt right to have Austin lose 3 months after winning it. I get they wanted to push the shock value that anything could happen. But it didn't help Austin's momentum to lose to Kane here. I guess time would prove that Austin didnt need the title to be the best, but when I think of champions, Steve is #1.

[@jees4711]

The title change didn't stop Austin's momentum You are really overthinking it Stacking the deck up against your main babyface is usually going to get them over even more Austin is still over And it made people want to see the RAW on the next night even more

[@jees4711]

Guy Incognito Dude they were not hot shotting They changed the belt for one night and put it back on Austin It made for a better RAW the next night wondering what was going to happen He lost it one more time that year and the title ended up with Rock And that was the next WrestleMania main event Title changes can diminish value For instance the Hardcore title But when you have great performers that tell great stories it all works out In my opinion Just because you are a fan doesn't make you or me experts

[@clspectre9055]

It also helped legitimize Kane, who imo suffered one too many losses to Undertaker, and was starting to lose a little bit of his status. It would've been better if Steve gave him two stunners to win it back instead of just one.

[@Amoury123505]

King of the ring 98 on my birthday

[@adam-thesportsguy6147]

Hey Jr breakdown David vs Goliath. JR: Well you know I hired those guys…

[@AW-kr9fl]

That explains why Shamrock never got the push he deserved. He was over big time in 98 but fell down the card in 99.

[@NihilisticHatred]

And your winner.... Mankind!

[@sixx2476]

1:50:44 that's why we are all here

[@delbertprince5302]

Sorry to hear about that Junk Yard Dogg story.....JR was real about the JYD death......

[@JohnLancaster-fh3oc]

The one thing he did in the first fall was protect his body the best way he could by the way he landed. Being a professiona,l this is the difference between a separated shoulder and a broken neck.

[@catfishandbass8680]

Video starts at 11:28

[@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster]

Thanks.

[@josephmalave5718]

I rember watching this shown on my hot box back in june 98 mick foley ull never be remade

[@dennisnash9793]

I really love this show I am a big fan my name is Dennis

[@kevindoe1000]

Good God almighty as good as my witness he's broken in half!

[@Robby43932]

Can someone explain to me what was supposed to happen to Mick Foley when undertaker choke slammed him thru the roof? Everyone says it went wrong but what was it supposed to be ??

[@jaysmith8505]

In the rewatch that Foley/Undertaker did, Foley says that he thought it would take multiple chokeslams (up to 5) in order to cave in the cell from above, so I don't know if that's what people mean when they say the spot went "wrong" but he definitely didn't think it'd be one chokeslam to send him through the cage and down onto the ring. In hindsight it was always gonna go like that though, since the two of them nearly fell through the cage just by merely walking across the top (prior to Foley being thrown over the side).

[@kitfo18]

Exception to every rule, The New Age Outlaws. No one can say they didn't get over.

[@stevepmg9202]

Context pal. They mean "New" as a prefix to mean reinvention of something past.

[@MatsukawaZaraki]

that background music is killing me and making me not want to finish this after only 4 minutes in :(

[@412StepUp]

The background music ends you know.

[@MatsukawaZaraki]

@@412StepUp don't care, still ain't gonna finish it

[@karlepaul6632]

Starts at 1:25

[@Stevefolmz]

Whats with all the sniffling?

[@roadblock24]

'fun dip'.

[@deadpoollee9497]

Nose candy

[@kevindoe1000]

The additude Era was my teenage Era I grew up in three hight of the golden era

[@anthonylewis9256]

I know you gota pay the bills boys but damn at the commercials !

[@misternewman1576]

Did Conrad say Corey Graves and all-time greats in the same sentence? Eeek.

[@gothchicksbongrips5712]

Corey always gives him shout outs on smackdown. Conrad just throwing him a bone.

[@levicoker8937]

13:35 Derek jeter would like a word with you J.R

[@trurobertson]

JYD died on the way back from his daughters graduation who would also die in a car crash later in life

[@chalklounge]

1:50:41 👍

[@Robby43932]

Just here to complain about the 5000 commercials within 30 minutes of the video

[@Kayfabe-226]

Two questions not asked was did JR think there was a backdoor deal done when WCW was sold at cheap price to Vince...next when mid South did those tar and feather angles was he upset or did he express to Watts why it wasn't right to do....

[@subgrappling805]

Between ads and live reads...holy shit boys.

[@Power_Press711]

"I can't spell it, but I know what it means." Lol I'm hip

[@seeyouinhellyeowie3865]

When is Conrad going to say thank you to Hannibal for getting information from his shoots videos

[@gothchicksbongrips5712]

As soon as Hannibal becomes an interesting interviewer and doesnt have questions full of umms and uhhs.

[@PaxBisonica89]

Shut up dork

[@RateEmorSlateEm]

A podcast with so much potential ruined by too many ads and crap sound quality

[@BerbMina]

Jim Ross is the best ever

[@noahlsmith2488]

I personally don't listen to a thing Dave Meltzer says because he is a critic. Anyone in my opinion can be a critic so critics don't mean much to me. Dave Meltzer changes his mind alot from what I hear from others. I guess I can not say I never listened to him before but I don't no more. When people would Comment I had to look for myself. He has Claimed that Stone Cold, HHH, Hulk Hogan, The Rock and Mankind and Undertaker sucked at at least one time. I agree not every match is a classic but to say they suck. I would pay money to see one of them squash him. To me a critic is someone who gripes about what others do when they have no balls themselves to do.

[@gregharper6382]

Isn’t it part of Pipers Culture to wear quilts?? Not just a lifestyle choice lol! Your comparisons sometimes Conrad 🤦‍♂️

[@madcona]

Roddy Piper was Canadian. Lmao

[@VitZ9]

@Greg Harper Yeah, a Scottish Kilt is not a skirt. It's got centuries of cultural significance as a warriors garment, and the Scots take it *very* seriously. If Conrad said that in a bar in Scotland, he would instantly get his ass kicked, without hesitation. Seriously, it's like saying the 'n' word in front of a black person - it's going to get violent, and there will be blood. 😆

[@alanharrison2726]

@@VitZ9 , except blacks don't wear skirts ,An piper certainly isn't Scottish , lol

[@cal4207]

​@@alanharrison2726 Rowdy Piper is of Scottish descent you know the white people that came to the West they didn't come over as Canadians dipshit

[@jamesbarnes7045]

And he always brings up these names of people and shares no backstory about him so we don't know when they existed and didn't even know they existed before he spoke of them

[@LouSassoleSledgecock_III]

Conrad’s reaction to “fellatio” is a little too much. Concerning.

[@mc9828]

he was clipping extra bad back then ha

[@jeremybayne5895]

I hate to be that guy but there's been other shoot interviews that have said Louie did not die from a heart attack Louie hung himself.,.. might be the last bit of Kayabe they're keeping alive.. and I really want to say it might have been a late '90s Roddy Piper shoot from rf video

[@marcroyer5507]

you cant sue former talent over gimmicks and names and then wonder why talent changes gimmicks and names when they get hired

[@gregharper6382]

One of the worst things he called? Have you seen AEW?? At least that match wit head was funny!

[@gothchicksbongrips5712]

Dave Meltzer looks like a California raisin. Him trashing Sable's looks is laughable.

[@thickerconstrictor9037]

He's a joke haha.

[@kevindoe1000]

Stop the damn match!

[@jaycuthbert245]

One thing I've always found fascinating about jrs commentary that when he said the words "omg, they've killed him" meaning in that moment it was compelyely real in his mind and he was genuinely concerned and was condemning the company for basically causing the death of one of their stars. He said it with such conviction he was obviously very upset and whatever he thought was ment to happen and what was planned went put of the window and his true opinions of the moment came out uncensored. I have always wondered if anyone ever pulled him up on that and asked him about it i.e Vince or Kevin Dunn effectively JR was accusing the wwf (in that brief and honest moment) of attempted murder lol ever since they have brushed it off as if he said "he's killed him" meaning he ment it like he was talking about undertaker but it was definately aimed at the company and Vince and you can't blame him either considering his limited knowledge of the situation coupled with the sheer violent landing Mick took as he landed on the floor you can't blame him for being upsets and concerned. No one would have been able to stick to the script in that moment considering the violent landing

[@Ken9284]

Jim Cornette: “Russo!!!”

[@zlinedavid]

Corny tries to avoid his name if at all possible. Shitstain/The Archbishop of Talentbury.

[@jamesbarnes7045]

I don't know who JR's talking about when he says people believe in Ken shamrock because I sure as hell didn't he would have never been a huge star He's a middle of the card guy

[@finnredmond3192]

I thought wcw cost 4 million

[@Ken9284]

More ads please

[@jamesbarnes7045]

Dusty Rhodes is a little too old for me I'm only 35 but I've seen some wrestling from back then and it just didn't age well it was very boring compared to the attitude era why would you want to watch Dusty Rhodes elbow people when you can watch Mick Foley fall off of a cage it just wasn't exciting back then

[@stevepmg9202]

Because it was about loving the characters and caring about who won or lost. Which pro wrestling always has been about and when its good, still is.

[@UziBlancoOfficial]

Guessing your an aew die hard weekly watcher 😂

[@jamesbarnes7045]

@@UziBlancoOfficial actually I haven't watched wrestling since like 2001 I couldn't even tell you who the hell was in AEW I don't even know what it means That's how far away I am from today's boring ass wrestling

[@Pslws]

Ads are ridiculous

[@Highly3666]

Just skip it

[@MatthewMandelka-m8o]

Once you’ve listened to one Conrad podcast you’ve listened to them all. Unoriginal and the same stuff repeated over and over