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[@peterjackson5373]

Really sorry to hear you are unwell Cap. Hopefully someone can keep us updated about you. See you soon

[@saintuk70]

@Cap hope it's not a recurrence of your previous illness. If so, all we can do is hope you keep strong and you're not away too long.

[@grimreapers]

I don;t think so. This seems more like a chronic nagging thing. I personally suspect long term anxiety has taken its tole.

[@the_f35_man]

​@@grimreapersWish you well man, you're the best DCS content maker out there! Hope you get better soon

[@RumRunnerBonesaw]

Get well soon Cap

[@hipser]

@@grimreapers I also suffer from anxiety and it sucks. Be good to yourself. We

[@Murdock47]

@@grimreapers Sorry to hear this. Wishing you well.

[@SamMurphyHSV]

Whatever you are gonna be grounded for Cap, hope you get well soon! I certainly look forward to seeing you fly again.

[@nickjoy8868]

Wishing you all the very best with your hospital treatment Cap, you will be sorely missed.

[@KasperiVonSchrowe]

Finnish person here 👋. It's so nice to see you trying out our home corners. First, about the history... of course we had war with Soviet Union and a lot of air combats, recon and bombing missions during that time but not any major battles that you might think of. Unless you want to reenact the sinking of the Tirpitz which happened in Tromssa Norway. But today the focus of war games is just in this area. We know that Murmansk is an important naval base for both Russian northern fleet and their submarines. They are very close to Finnish and Norwegian borders and some missions in possible scenario would happen in this area. There is also Russian army base of Alakurtti few hundred kilometers south from Murmansk, I didn't see it in the map. Also Plesetsk space center and their ICBM silos are a bit east from Arkangel, but I don't think that the map extends that far. Experts also speculate that Russia may test the 5th amendment of Nato agreement in this northern area by invading Finland in Lapland (feel free to try 👊) where Swedish and Norwegian armed forced would be first involved with their Gripens and F-35's (Norway). There are few ideas what you may want to test. Whatever is your health issue, Cap, I wish you all the best and quick recovery.

[@oskich]

The Swedish volunteer air force was based in Kemi during the 1940 Winter War against the Soviet Union. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Regiment_19,_Finnish_Air_Force

[@john4045able]

I sincerely hope you get well soon!

[@Jedigreeny]

hope you get better soon CAP

[@kimbonzky]

Bodø Main Airforce Base is historicaly Northern NATO’s largest airbase, at the most durring the cold war, Norway had 2 fighter Squadrons, 1 SAR squadron and 1 transport squadron stationed there, also it used to contain Norway’s main QRF for scrambling fighters. Lots of cold-war history in the area. Also the airbase where Francis Gary Powers was supposed to land his U2 at when he got shot down over the Sovietunion in 1960. Later the base was used by SR-71s.

[@SeanChYT]

I was lucky enough to get a tour of the underground hangars there. I hope they keep these maintained and open them up for the public in the future. It was impressive to go in through the massive nuclear-proof (I think...) blast door.

[@peteturner3928]

I have visited the great aircraft museum on the edge the Airbase, if memory serves they have a Lockheed U-2 on display as like you say they did operate from there. Bodo was one of the first places attacked by paratroopers in WWII, when the German's dropped in to capture the tactically important strip as it was one of few large airfields above the Artic Circle at the time.

[@kimbonzky]

@@peteturner3928 Almost right, areas around Stavanger and Oslo where attacked by german paratroopers when Norway was invaded. Bodø on the other hand was firebombed on the 27th of May 1940.

[@joey8313]

@@peteturner3928 they did have a U-2 at that museum when I visited it 5 years ago, they were/are also supposed to have a 737 there for some reason

[@peteturner3928]

@@kimbonzky thanks for the correction, I was just going by the info our guide gave us at the time.

[@WealthFactory243]

The road bases in Sweden are everywhere. During the cold war the swedes converted a few roads to runways to use viggens if a surprise attack were to happen and airbases were destroyed. They could take off and land from roads, that's why the viggen has canards and reverse thrust, to be able to make those short take offs and landing.

[@mmdoof]

Same doctrine in Finland. There are several prebuilt highway airstrips around Finland

[@TheHitbear]

Cap. Google earth is your friend. Severomorsk has SU-33, Bears, Frogfoots, IL-76s, and possibly a couple of Fulcrum Ks IL-38 ASW aircraft and Helix helicopters. Basically the whole OBAT of the northern fleet. Thats a Delta class. The Typhoon has the conning tower at the rear and the missiles in front. The Delta was the other way around.

[@grimreapers]

Thanks!

[@bodan1196]

Finland is known as the Country of a thousand lakes. Finland does not really have any tall mountains. In fact, a funny fact is that: in 2017 when Finland celebrated 100 years of independence, the government of Norway wanted to gift Finland a mountain. There was however some legal issues, so the the present was determined to not be a possibility. edit: The tallest peak in the Scandinavian Mountains, is located in Norway. It's 2,469 metres (8,100 ft) high. The tallest peak in Sweden is 2,104 m (6,903 ft). The tallest peak in Finland is 1,324 m (4,344 ft).

[@Mauser102]

I've eaten my fair share of butter and today I learned Finland is in Minnesota somewhere.

[@Hartwig870]

My province has over 100,000 lakes. Granted, its twice your size.

[@Andratenor]

Finland has got 187,888 lakes according to the latest surveys (accoring to the rule a lake must be bigger than 500 square meters or 5400 square feet). Of these 309 are bigger than 10 square km and eight bigger than 500 square km. The biggest, the Suur-Saima lake system, is about 4400 square km and the fourth-largest natural freshwater lake in Europe. The survey was completed in the 1990’s by paying a group of students to count all lakes from general survey maps by hand. The same survey showed that Finland also has got 178,947 island bigger than 100 square meters and 75,818 bigger than 0,5 square km.

[@HoRiGa94]

He actually flew just by the tallest mountain in Sweden when he flew into the mountains: Kebnekaise, just to the right after he looked at that meandering river (next to Nikkaluokta) to his right. Beautiful mountains, brilliant for hiking.

[@josephvarno5623]

The statue that you overflew was the Alyosha Monument in Murmansk.

[@jonctr]

Nice - happy memories of the Kola Peninsula playing Microprose's F-19/F-117A Stealth Fighter sim in the 80's, bombing the sub pens at Severomorsk with CBU FAE's :)

[@Goblin209]

"so here's sweden, they speak funny here" had me dying

[@NerdishNature]

Literally five seconds after I’ve read this comment cap said the line and I’m reeeeling 😅😂

[@andreartymiuk]

Already working on a 'Homage to EF2000' campaign for GR. Love those Fjords.

[@SilentShark]

When Cap said "You know what this reminds me of...?" I immediately thought "EF2000"

[@TheHitbear]

The other subs are in Polyarny. There is a Typhoon underway too. And a further look at Earth shows the location of the Kuznetzov and A Kirov class cruiser.

[@tapiorautio457]

Rovaniemi is a mixed base, both civilian and military uses it.

[@leepatterson5710]

Sorry to hear about how you are feeling Cap, best wishes for getting well. As a viewer and you are looking for ideas that we enjoy, you could just have videos of Grumpcam eating chips while he plays. Or videos from Dark's POV shooting down his teammates.

[@bodan1196]

The swedish city just north west of your take off, is Kiruna. It was for some time the largest city in the world, area wise... and due to the massive iron ore mine located there causing cracks and movements in the bedrock, they decided to move the entire town "a bit over to the right". A move which is now starting to be completed. This was also source of iron, which the military lead by the man with a funny mustage, was so keen on. Not the most glorious of moments in swedish history, but I think it turned out as it should have. All things considered.

[@bodan1196]

@seanprice7645 "...for some time...", not is, nor has always been. This was in the 1970's or 80's. I was a kid then, so I might have misunderstood the facts. 🙂 Besides: The urban area of La Tuque is 6,33 km2. The urban area of Kiruna is 10,06 km2... 😛 🙂 Both are rather small compared to the really big "cities" though... who knew that Greenland would be "up there" on the lists.

[@aztec0112]

Everyone clamoring for a Vietnam map needs to take note. To do it right, it would need to be half again the size this map. Distances between the US/RTAF bases and the Hanoi/Haiphong area are between 250mi to 400+ mi. Hope whatever is ailing you sorts out quickly 🙏🙏

[@grimreapers]

Yup Vietnam is a HUGE country in terms of latitude.

[@pahtar7189]

To do it right, they'd have to include much of Cambodia and Laos as well, but that still wouldn't include the bases in the Philippines that hosted bombers and tankers.

[@corvanphoenix]

There are a lot of iron ore mines in northern Sweden as they have some extremely pure iron deposits, prized for centuries for making high quality iron & steel.

[@corvanphoenix]

Many of the 🇸🇪 mines ship to 🇳🇴 ports, which are much closer than their own. This led to otherwise small town's in WWII becoming strategic assets, hence targets.

[@GustavSvard]

@@corvanphoenix The Swedish ports are downhill all the way from the mines and the trains don't have to cross the highest parts of the mountains. On the third hand the Swedish ports are about as far up the Baltic Sea as you can get, while the Norwegian ports are straight on the Atlantic. Summa summarum: you're right. The logistics of iron ore is a very strategic part of any war lasting long enough to need resupplies.

[@whousley]

That huge statue is the Alyosha Monument in Murmansk.

[@trig]

Wow! Dcs hired Slartibartfast for this map!

[@steveh111]

I understood that reference!

[@gambit3le]

You can tell by the Fjords.

[@jamesyoungquist6923]

Too bad the Fjords got destroyed to make room for a hyperspace bypass 😔. At least they are memorialized in this map

[@UkDave3856]

Well they do give a continent a nice Baroque feeling

[@trig]

Nerds the lot of ya!

[@John_SlideRule_Bullay]

Get better soon Cap! We're all here for you! Cap Valued by Valued Viewers!

[@rahauke]

Hope you get well soon… if you are visiting Munich in the future… I take you up in the sky in a Cessna 182… fyi in the 90s I have been in Trondheim with the German Air Force with my Patriot battalion in the 90th and in Kirkenes in a snow hotel with my wife before COVID.. we love the north of Norway and it is looking much better than in the map 🤣

[@whousley]

That Siberian meteor was an airburst. It did not leave a creator.

[@jamesyoungquist6923]

So you are saying there is no God?

[@oxydoxxo]

I think he was saying it's a meteor that's not leaving the creator, so it's a very devout meteor of the cloth

[@jamesyoungquist6923]

@@oxydoxxo I suppose if you believe in a universal creator, then nothing can ever leave. The weft and weave of reality is infinite and eternal

[@pahtar7189]

One thing about missions in the arctic is depending on the time of year you'll have almost no daytime (winter) or almost no nighttime (summer).

[@shlomojacobs-velde3838]

Hope you feel better soon!

[@jonbolen7169]

Cap I wish you the best. Hope you get well soon and know that your leadership will be missed. Hurry back

[@saintuk70]

Excited by this.... relive EF2000 missions out of Tromso/Bodo

[@Streaml1neJMoose]

This!

[@grimreapers]

Yarp

[@Deamonesque]

Sorry to hear you are unwell again Cap. Hope you work through it again soon. Best wishes from New Zealand.

[@f104starfight3r]

I'm at Duxford for D-Day 80th airshow

[@shuntera]

Get down into those mines with a Huey

[@TheHitbear]

Severmorsk 3 has Fulcrums Olenegorsk has Backfires. Monchegorsk is Fencers and Foxhounds.

[@corvanphoenix]

Bødø was a huge base in the Cold War. I don't know any details but I'd bet it had fighters, tankers, sea patrol & AWACS.

[@GustavSvard]

Makes perfect sense given the distance from Russia. Near, but not too close. But is apparently getting turned into just a SAR base now?

[@kencreten7308]

I can't think of - anything more exciting than listening to you - people talk about healthcare.

[@LIMITLESS_RC]

I’m with yall. I like the map. I haven’t been able to download it since being on a work trip. But I live through yall this week.

[@Matthewlux9]

Neat map! I drove on a Finland road runway location heading to Helsinki from Rovaniemi Santa Clause village. Hope you get well soon Cap!

[@skatman3278]

Wishing you a speedy recovery, Cap. Watching your videos is better than 90% of the dross that's on TV these days (except Clarkson's Farm, that is awesome haha).

[@florianmuller5650]

Get well soon. I wish you a speedy and complete recovery.

[@anthonybonawitz444]

I hope you get well CAP take some time off but not too much time you're a part of my everyday routine.

[@vonsmutt4254]

Holy Toledo I may have to ship my Yamaha wr250r over to Norway and do some Moto camping😊

[@timblack6422]

I played Comanche back in the day, Cap! Get well soon, Brother

[@Wilko601st]

I can already hear operation IKEA and defend the kola cubes. Shout if you need someone to crash on take off in your absence, but most importantly get better soon....your valued views demand it 🖖

[@CreepingTerror]

I did not read that as Koala initially, nope, nope, nope. Hope for a quick recovery, Cap!

[@valuedhumanoid6574]

Of all the channels doing a "first impression" of this map, I refrained from them all until this one. This is what I have been waiting for. My first look will also be your first look. Wouldn't have it any other way

[@Boatti_]

Many prayers to you Cap, may you have a uncomplicated recovery❤️🙏

[@pahtar7189]

All those surface details are very important when you do those King of the Hill battles with tanks and Hueys and such.

[@jamesyoungquist6923]

The little black box mounted near the canopy in the f16 when you look back left ( 9:27 ) is a magnetic tracking device for the helmet mounted display. It's actually called the "viper" and made by a company called Polhemus. Due to magnetic distortion from the aircraft itself, it needs to be calibrated by measuring deviation within the volume of the cockpit. Source: from a retired f16 pilot who then had a career building simulators for Israel and India. Also have used it in a medical device company for VR headsets. Best wishes for your health. Hope is a powerful healer. You have a lot of people cheering for you

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@GingerKid_Outdoors]

I hope you're not away for too long. I enjoy the interactions between you and the boys.

[@Wookiesmasher]

Kiruna, my old home town! And the new Mach loop goes past Sweden's tallest mountain at 51:27

[@Musix4me-Clarinet]

I have been flying the map and I love all the water throughout. "To the Defenders of the Soviet Arctic during the Great Patriotic War (Russian: Защитникам Советского Заполярья в годы Великой Отечественной войны), commonly called Alyosha (Russian: 'Алёша'; Alyosha is an affectionate diminutive form of the name Aleksey) is a monument in Murmansk, Russia to Soviet soldiers, sailors, and airmen of World War II (called, in Russia, the Great Patriotic War)."

[@DarkAgeTM]

That's one pretty map with variety of landscapes. But sneaking up on S-400 in Muramsk will be really tough.

[@christophero55]

I hope you get the care you need and wish you a speedy recovery!

[@CMDRSweeper]

Man! I was so worried ever since we had a Cap news many years ago, as the unmentionables really likes to do a comeback! I do hope it will be eradicated and we can get Cap back! So best of wishes to you Cap, you will be missed and we hope for a speedy return... And probably relearning the jet as you may have forgotten it all :D PS, that submarine was a Delta class SSBN, a strange ballistic submarine with a humpback for the missiles.

[@TechGaming45]

Finland, Finland, Finland The country where I want to be Pony trekking or camping or just watching T.V Finland, Finland, Finland It's the country for me

[@Kyleaalen25]

13:12 it wasn't a Typhoon class, it was Delta IV class

[@grimreapers]

Thanks!

[@user13342]

Hope you are doing okay Cap! Wishing you the best Mate!!

[@wormthatturned8737]

Just bought the map today but alas it will not show in my module manager even though I have 2.9.1 already updated? Bardufoss in Northern Norway near Narvik and Tromso were used by the RAF harriers for winter exercises for many years. I remember well the Hangars actually built into the mountains. Can’t wait to taxi through that! Big huge hangers doors to keep the trolls in!

[@Craefter]

We can finally simulate Tu-95 Bear intercepts.

[@smacman68]

As a lifelong flight simulator fan, Orbix has been a giant in maps and mods. They’ll take a city from MSFS and detail it out to the max. Superb maps!

[@sandertheiceman]

Rovaniemi is mixed civilian and military.

[@multitimmytiger2]

Video idea: race airplanes along the taxiways in Jokkmokk.

[@paulybassman7311]

First base is TU95, mig 29/35 and Su 33 /35

[@zeeblats]

I know that some of the V bombers were based in Norway for a time, my uncle was moved there from Manston

[@chrisstopher2277]

I dont play dcs so I watch because you guys are funny and entertaining. Love your work bud and I hope the best for your health Cap.

[@colinboneham7387]

That’s one impressive map even at low terrain mapping, when it’s all been populated and active it’s going to be an absolute cracker, and a defo ingress mission.

[@Vtarngpb]

Don’t be a menace in South Central while drinking your juice in the Hood! 😂

[@rymdkapseln]

Hey! You flew over my house! I live in Kiruna. (The cityscape is a bitt dated, The new city center is on top of the gocart track you found)

[@ptittannique5621]

20:24 They most certainly are not "god" dams. Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week. Anyway, get well soon, Cap.

[@SklllsS]

"No weapons today guys!" and Dark hears "YOU NEED FOX 3 WEAPONS FOR YOUR TEAM, they love to Eject" :D And @cap ALL THE VERY BEST FOR YOU!

[@christopherjohnson529]

Cap - so sorry to hear you're feeling worse. It's definitely been apparent in recent videos that the stomach is really bothering you. Take some time for yourself and get healthy if you can. You and the GR have been putting out an incredible rate of content for, what, 7 years now? You've more than earned a break, particularly if you need to focus on your health. Take a sabbatical, get healthy and I'll look forward to whatever else you do next.

[@christopherjohnson529]

I mean I hope you'll continue making content - I watch it daily :). But I recently retired from a job I'd been doing too long, and it's a relief to have a break after so many years. A creative refresh. A chance to do something different for awhile. You might need that after so many years of the GR? Hoping you can find the right path for you, whatever it is next. Best wishes to get better, that's the most important thing!

[@Forshbr04]

Hope you feel better soon, Cap! Best wishes!

[@imellor711]

Great video, thx for the tour, get better soon, Cap.

[@stevebarnett-f5o]

Get well Cap, good video, gave me a much better idea of Kola map as it is now. I shall hold off and see if the promised updates do arrive when promised, before buying.

[@HoseeeWT]

Me when grim reaper uploads🥴

[@Zeithri]

As a Swede.. Sweden isn't that cold. It is pretty nice here. Makes me wonder how far south you can fly in Sweden... if I could go " _I can see my home from here!_ "

[@mikerowave1986]

The submarine in the floating drydock at 13:12 is Delta class if I'm not mistaken

[@alejandrogrossi9424]

Right

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@LexTheFlyingSlipper]

hey Cap, I'm from Murmansk, thanks for showing hometown! the statue is to unknown soldier - to all soldiers dead in the ww2. also - get well

[@grimreapers]

Thanks!!

[@chrisgoodwin3617]

I love your films Cap, very sad to hear that you’re not well.

[@jackieow]

The mining is to get apatite for agricultural phosphorus. One of the towns is named Apatity.

[@lordsqueak]

Geowizard did a straight line mission in Norway, just a tad south of Bodø. (walking in a straight line across the land,, and little by boat.) If you want to get an idea for how the landscape looks like on this map, I recommend checking that out. I just want to see how things have changed over in Malmberget since I was there last. But I guess I'll catch up on that later on. ;)

[@SeanChYT]

Get well soon Cap. Love these videos.

[@jeoverv]

Bodø Airbase used to house two squadrons of F-16s until a few years ago. Norway got its first F-35As in 2017 based at Ørland and the Bodø Airbase more or less ceased operations when RNoAF retired its fleet of F-16s in january 2022. Our F-16s are being transferred to Romania and Ukraine while F-35 operate from Ørland main air base west of Trondheim and a forward QRA base up north, at Evenes. Bodø always was a combined civilian and military airport and was of huge importance during the cold war. When Francis Gary Powers in his U2 was shot down over Russia his destination was Bodø. The airport will actually be demolished in a few years as there will be constructed a new civilian airport a mile to the southwest. Sadly, the proud Airbase in Bodø will be buried under an expanding city and most of the shelters and military fascilities as well. Bodø has huge underground caves as hangars used to house cold war jets back in the days. DCS will have to map a new airport in a few years.

[@1949crewchief]

Good luck at the Dr Cap. Lie to the DME if you have to! On a lighter note, my time at Bodo was fantastic. One of the most beautiful countries of the 72 I have been to.

[@kevhancock2889]

Hope you get better soon cap thoights are with you , your channels such fun with you and all the guys .keep us all posted . I think the iron mines would make a cool reverse king of the hill,king of the pit ! The road runways would make a excellent circuit racing !river racing, Its been so long since we had a good race ! Definatly some ww2 missions and canyon runs ,maybe a firefox rerun . Naval battles in the fjords .theres so much fun to be had here .cant wait .also please tell me you can drive a tank down the ski slope . Love ya supercap

[@JClark2600]

@2:45 Bodo maybe there to protect Norway's Spaceport plus I think 140mi NNE is the landing spot for underwater hydrophones plus MAARSY (Middle Atmosphere Alomar Radar System).

[@bodan1196]

"...they speak funny here...", he says after having "visited" Finland. The finnish language is closer related to hungarian, than to any of the germanic languages that both english and swedish belongs to.

[@daniel_s1337]

get well soon! nice map... looking forward to fly through the fjords.

[@TheStateOfEarth]

The sub at 13:14 is not a Typhoon class, whose sail is at the back. I think that sub is a Delta IV: It has a big icbm hump behind the sail and the twin propellers stick out far from the rudders.

[@LBHorn]

I can see my house from here! Makes one pine for the fjords. I demand (very nicely with lots of pretty pleases) a major hunt for the general on the Norwegian coast just about straight west of Kemi Tornio (closest ref I could find) :D Oh, and keep all those dad jokes flying.

[@grimreapers]

OK!

[@marcosavila8215]

road bases shouldn't be classified? it just defeats the fact of being hidden from the enemy

[@totalNERD-eo7wx]

satellites

[@Wolfe351]

even in the low detail area in Norway it looks good enough for some fun Coldwar style NATO vs Warsaw pact missions

[@pahtar7189]

Finland hosted the 1952 Summer Olympics, but hasn't hosted the Winter Olympics yet. The ski jumps you saw were probably at a training facilities for their Olympic team.

[@Grytvanten]

Hey Cap, get well soon! You are missed. YT isn't the same without you!

[@M-dici]

Praying for you and your family Cap ❤

[@MrNoobed]

Feel better cap! I hope the boys hold the fort down while you're gone

[@wanhapatu]

No idea where they got that name "BAS 100" from. It's just called a Vuojärvi road base. The Kalixfors "helicopter base" is an old 1940's airbase, shut down in the 1960's.

[@gaudin5573]

Gonna miss my daily dose of professionalism, get well soon Cap!

[@randalljones4370]

Observations: a) flatlands - Murmansk and Finnlandia are really flat, with a tiny handfull of scabberus little hills, perhaps 3k ft above the plane. No big, long/linear, ingress-path-allowing terrain.... tough to dodge the S400s the Motherland? b) Finland - Where are the large outdoor Metal Concert Arenas? Have they modeled Tampere? And is the statue to Sibelius modeled? Even at 30,000 ft you should hear a brain-rattling chug. c) Sabaton ... INSTEAD of a Swedish Statue of some cringey 8th century king, PERHAPS DCS could model a Sabaton concert venue....complete with a knee-slapping Joachim. .. maybe the tank on their stage can go active and launch Stingers when least expected? There are pre-rendered Sabaton animations they could plug in, straight from the Sabaton History YT channel. Speaking of Sabaton, perhaps GR2 could do some WWI-fun recreating some of the Night Witch missions... show off yer mid-flight engine restart skills in the pitch black moonless night? Witchy Cackling during the bomb drops gets additional Intimidation Points. No? d) You want Green ? You need a map of the maritime PNW.... or maybe B.C. to avoid images of bombing the US. No huge statues here, but we do have 3 meter Sasquatches and proper mountain ranges and ravines and gorges and volcanoes to circle about. And the challenges of hugging the nap-of-the-earth with alternating clear cuts and 200 foot tall Douglas Firs and hemlocks and Port Orford cedars. (on the coast). You could even do a bunch of post Apocalyptic battle sims using defunct-and-overgrown bases like Camp Adair and Klamath Falls. We can also cause massive air-safety issues by having St Helens of Mt Baker belch a few cubic miles of ash into the air...nothing abraids compressor turbines like a bath in volcanic ash. Ooooo, you could set up one of those SundayFunday constrained airspaces shoot'em-outs entirely within the rim of Crater Lake. (Diameter = 6 miles, Circumference =20 miles, altitude about 7k ft at the top of the rim with the lake about 1000 feet below.) And then, at the end of scheduled time, we can have Mazama blow it's top, again... the next best thing to Yellowstone, so they say. /Oregon Tourist Bureau.