The entire Targaryen dynasty was just about three hundred years long. So at this point in their history it is about 130 years since Aegon the Conqueror’s conquest of Westeros. Not a thousand years ago. I actually thought the opening scene was a good representation of how quickly something like angry words can spiral out of control. We see the young men arguing and then we immediately see the result of their feud. I know that there are times that television shows can be faulted for skipping over big events like that to save on budget. But in this case, I think it was appropriate. There will be plenty of big battles to come in this war.
@Leakampff4 ай бұрын
Totally! It was a thematic and conceptual battle to highlight concepts they're trying to tell, not a spectacle or main event with ANY of our main characters for us to consume. I LOVED how they did it!
@blackeyedlily4 ай бұрын
@@Leakampff Agreed!👍
@logan-pe4rm2 ай бұрын
You say “just” as if 300 years isn’t ridiculously long
@jasongupo38594 ай бұрын
"what was the point of that scene?" Aemond was exposed in a vulnerable condition by Aegon. He showed by walking out nude that he doesn't care about what people think, and he's not the same boy they bullied years ago
@Leakampff4 ай бұрын
Yeah his standing up and facing his brother, fully nude. Was a power move, him trying to (and possibly succeeding in? at least in this moment) ridding himself of his shame - as well as reaffirming his dislike of his brother, despite how he has been dutiful and respectful on the surface!
@vjc254 ай бұрын
These two are a little slow lol
@SE-gs6gd4 ай бұрын
I think he meant more what was the point of the gratuity and explicit imagery. It was a little over top. We know he s in a wh*re house basically and when he stands up and we see his bare backside we know he’s nude. That’s what they meant. I kinda of agree with them.
@Leakampff4 ай бұрын
@SE-gs6gd I don't think showing the nude body is innately gratuitous. And whilst I think in this scene it serves particular purpose, even if it didn't - it shouldn't be scandalous it's simply a body. The earlier sexual portions of the whorehouse element, I guessssss you couldve said were gratuitous - but they were showing the setting so 🤷♀️
@SE-gs6gd4 ай бұрын
@@Leakampff I don’t mind showing the body when it’s a tool to advance the story here it was just extra. They didn’t need to show all that imo
@jasongupo38594 ай бұрын
The Battle of the Burning Mill has no main characters involved so they decided just to show the result instead of the fight itself
@Corvus1Corvidae4 ай бұрын
I think this season is actually 8 episodes which is why they are little longer sometimes.
@RandomsPage4 ай бұрын
You’ve seen Oldtown in Game of Thrones. It’s where the Citadel is located. Sam went there in season 6 to train as a maester. Oldtown is home to the Hightowers. It’s the oldest (hence the name), largest, and and richest city in Westeros. And as Gwayne stated in this episode, it took him three months of travel to get from Oldtown to King’s Landing. To give you some historical scale, the city of King’s Landing is very young compared to Oldtown. The Targaryens only erected Kings Landing about 130 years ago, and it’s been the capital of the faith for even shorter than that. Oldtown is still really seen as the crown jewel city on the continent, where a lot of old money and influence still is.
@thomasluke-wp8or4 ай бұрын
You even see the high tower in game of thrones when Sam arrives
@rubychan22884 ай бұрын
It may be a coincidence, but Pentos is where Daenerys was given her old, "fossilized" eggs.
@HomoSolari4 ай бұрын
It is no coincidence, the director confirmed that three of the eggs shown here eventually become Dany’s.
@Leakampff4 ай бұрын
God every time i watch that Alicent and Rhaenyra scene it gets better and better. Soooo simple yet soooo complex. The score, the acting - the rotating overhead shot, Rhaenyra tiny smirk at the end despite a sort of end to her relationship with Alicent, she now knows 100% that she IS the rightful heir, and Viserys believed in her till the end. So good
@RandomsPage4 ай бұрын
Mysaria did care about the small folk last season. If you remember she traded Aegon to Otto for his promise to abolish the child fighting rings.
@rexibhazoboa70974 ай бұрын
Morality wise, what has she done thats wrong? I see people acting like she cant be trusted when she's morally superior to every powerful character we've seen
@МерлинФюсеинова4 ай бұрын
@@rexibhazoboa7097If you barely survived and see how easy is you 15 years job to be crushed for some seconds by powerful people and you so called good for the realm cause didn't do nothing positive yet in the first opportunity you get you being to scheming again.Mysaria is nothing but miserable opportunist who likes to use big words but in end of the day is the same like people she "fights".
@Anetron14 ай бұрын
Which makes her decision to support Rhaenyra based on her supposed sympathy for the commoners very weird. Otto has demonstrated at least pragmatic concern for common people. Meanwhile, girl boss Rhaenys murdered hundreds upon hundreds of people during Aegon's coronation and wasn't even reprimanded for it, continuing to enjoy her place as Rhaenyra's most trusted advisor.
@RandomsPage4 ай бұрын
@@Anetron1 From her perspective Otto/The Hightowers tried to have her killed lol.
@Shazzam124 ай бұрын
"Oh now you have the interest of the smallfok in mind" Mysaria chose to use her leverage as the White Worm to try and end the child pit fighting last season... her whole character has been her pushing back against the highborn actions that see people like her used as pawns and murdered. Almost all of her scenes have her complaining about Daemon and the Hightowers playing the game of thrones.
@codycook33824 ай бұрын
What is it with the Baela has nobody shit? Her mom died, true enough but atleast she was awesome till the end. Her dad ignores her now but she was always Daemons favorite daughter. Her grandma is one of the coolest ladies in history and she was raised by her. She has a Dragon. She is betrothed to Jace and he actually listens to her and loves her. She is in Rhaenyra's small circle, and until right now she has always had her sister. I would argue she has the best support system in the show!
@perfectstorm82044 ай бұрын
for right now. Baela is blood of the dragon so she will be alright no matter what happens i think
@rexibhazoboa70974 ай бұрын
They were talking about both the girls, not Baela specifically. Rheana lost her mother and Luke, her father never cared about her, she just said goodbye to a sister she may never see again and is leaving home to protect her distant families babies and dragons.
@ircjesselee4 ай бұрын
My gut is telling me that the scene with Aegon realizing how undisciplined his knights are and then looking at himself in the mirror is him reflecting on the thought that maybe his lax attitude and rule might have played a part in his sons death. I'm expecting a major change in how he rules moving forward.
@jackson8574 ай бұрын
1:48 You seem confused. Arryk was the one who relieved Ser Lorent at the door saying he was restless. He then just waited a few minutes before going in to kill Rhaenyra. Erryk then burst in a few seconds later after being alerted by Mysaria.
@thomasluke-wp8or4 ай бұрын
This season is 8 episodes, not 10. Aegon burned harrenhal 130 years ago, not 1000 (not trying to sound sassy, just adding these in as i watch along so theyre brief) "Guess we didnt have budget for a proper fight" the battle of the burning mill is only significant as being the first true battle of the war, it was very insignificant except for the casualty number. Showing the battle would take an entire episode of characters weve never seen before who all die immediately and neither of the main warring sides gain advantage :)
@ent664 ай бұрын
Criston Cole is such a fun character, and the actor is killing it!
@ancatdal4 ай бұрын
Not my favourite episode by far, but there were a few things a really loved, like Simon Strong. I think it was a great decision to cut the battle between the Blackwood and Brackens - both because we viewers had little personal stakes in it, and because the brutal cut to the aftermath show how quickly conflicts can escalate. It's more thematically fitting for the episode, where there is a last attempt to avoid all out war; the aftermath, the burned and corpe-ridden countryside, that will be the outcome of war. I also enjoy the possible symbolism of the mill, a structure that goes round and round and round in circles - when did it begin in it's cycle? The Blackwoods and Brackens can't agree when and why their conflict started, and soon people will argue over when the Dance began. But does it really matter?
@HomoSolari4 ай бұрын
Aegon’s conquest is over 100 years before the events of the show, not a thousand. Surprisingly recent, compared to the Starks ruling the North for millennia.
@kendemyx94 ай бұрын
Criston Cole's haircut is what we would call "gagong gupit" in the Philippines
@theAverageJoe254 ай бұрын
The reason the kids at the beginning so easily went to war has less to do with the targaryens than you think. They are the Blackwoods and the. brackens. Two ancient houses who have been finding excuses to kill each other for thousands of years
@roberthall55804 ай бұрын
Rhaenyra did get through to alicent... There just as nothing she can do... She now knows she was wrong... Did you hear her choke on "the conqueror"?
@jaylannorthern7324 ай бұрын
As detail oriented as both of y’all are not remembering how caraxes sounds different from the rest of the dragons is interesting lol
@rexibhazoboa70974 ай бұрын
To be fair, all the dragons screech. Thats the only sound they make. The exceptions are the very large ones and when a dragon is about to breath fire, they gurgle or smthn.
@thomasluke-wp8or4 ай бұрын
The sept of baelor doesnt exist yet
@AzkuulaKtaktu4 ай бұрын
Oldtown is on the opposite coast. It is the oldest and, besides King's Landing, the largest and richest city in Westeros. It is home to both the Citadel of the maesters and the faith of the seven, hence the Hightowers' great influence.
@KatiE-yp8hb4 ай бұрын
Oldtown to Kingslanding took Alicents brother 3 monts by horse (maybe with inn breaks) so no, it's not close
@systemofafox64874 ай бұрын
He strikes me as a someone who would stop at every inn he comes across and probably stay a few days at some
@kylethompson30084 ай бұрын
It took a month for King Robert to bring a small army (not sure how many men he took for protection) to Winterfell in the first episode of GOT
@rexibhazoboa70974 ай бұрын
@@kylethompson3008 That was from Kingslanding to Winterfell. Oldtown is closer to KL so it should take less than a month to travel. Which means, Gwayne 100% stopped at as much inns as possible.
@kylethompson30084 ай бұрын
@@rexibhazoboa7097 I know. That's what I was saying
@KatiE-yp8hb4 ай бұрын
@@kylethompson3008 Oh wow. They must have really run the whole time. or maybe Gwayne was just really slow😅
@acdragonrider4 ай бұрын
22:39: No, this episode has all been about feeling vulnerable, exposed and weak. Aemond comes to the brothel to be with that woman to be vulnerable and feel intimacy with the woman he’s chosen. Aegon is realizing he’s vulnerable and weak. A fraud of a king and he’s trying to deal with that feeling. Rhaenyra is trying to be vulnerable with alicent while also removing any weaknesses from her side that the greens could twist to their advantage. Namely her kids.
@Shazzam124 ай бұрын
Sending the eggs, baby dragons and little kids to Pentos is the plan later but first they are heading to the Vale because they promised Lady Jane a dragon to defend the Eryie during the war in exchange for troops. The plan is to write to the prince of Pentos and get permission before Rhaena can take them there
@thabisomasimula37594 ай бұрын
Old Towm is built on the mouth of a major river on the south west coast of Westeros. thats a 3 month trip. It used to be the capital of Westeros before the Dragon Lords built Kings Landing.
@Darth_Nycta_133 ай бұрын
"if you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention" Ramsay Bolton
@woodswitch4 ай бұрын
Aegon’s conquest was 130 years before the current story.
@leisastalnaker37904 ай бұрын
Old Towne is a separate city, where the Citadel is. Also, the Hightowers are the most important family there.
@liftoff82854 ай бұрын
38:02 fun fact on sleepworking: The actor who plays King Aegon is the singer of a small band called "Sleep Walking Animals"
@woodswitch4 ай бұрын
Old Town is a different city. Several months ride away.
@rexibhazoboa70974 ай бұрын
Likely less than a month away if you follow the Roseroad without any stops.
@Muthomi.T.I.M4 ай бұрын
Try checking out a map of The Crownlands (region around King's Landing) Much of the battles in this season should take place there.
@naemontargaryen73484 ай бұрын
Cole thinks he getting harrenhal🤣🤣🤣🤣
@justinehercthehuman4 ай бұрын
"THE COW" HAHAHA me
@adrianneagoe36524 ай бұрын
The Ramsey edit lmao
@Muthomi.T.I.M4 ай бұрын
Oldtown is waaaay south in the reach. Months away on horseback. It is actually the southernmost city in Westeros and the second largest one at that. Cleaner and neater than Kingslanding too.
@juniorlks14 ай бұрын
Oldtown is 3 months away from King's Landing by horse. Alicent's brother even says he spent 3 months to get there and found Otto no longer as hand of the king. KL is in the east part of the map, and Oldtown is in the west. It is the land of the Hightowers and where maesters go to study. It's where Sam went to study and found sir Jorah, who went there to find a cure for his greyscale.
@rexibhazoboa70974 ай бұрын
Its less than 3 months if you ride nonstop. King Robert journeyed to Winterfell from Kings L in a month which is a considerable greater distance than Oldtown to KL.
@acdragonrider4 ай бұрын
The dragon keepers and guards as a unit were created by King Jahaerys the Conciliator. I’d love to see a show about him and Alysanne and maybe it would go into that too.
@SpiralSine64 ай бұрын
George RR Martin did originally pitch this show to start with Aemon and Baelon, the sons of Jaehaerys and fathers to Rhaenys and Viserys/Daemon. But HBO saw the writing on the wall and decided that it would be too long of a buildup to big dragon fights.
@susanleach91064 ай бұрын
Guys it’s 8 episodes in this season.
@chrisbeaudoin18524 ай бұрын
Old Town is in the far west south of high garden
@thomasluke-wp8or4 ай бұрын
Spoiler for next episode below!!!! 17:40 "they're gonna end in tragedy" 😂😂
@monsterking19734 ай бұрын
The episode was fantastic
@vanessaaves32714 ай бұрын
I think the point of that scene is to set up Aemond doing something later, I haven’t read the book, but he just humiliated him. I wouldn’t be surprised if Aemond leaves Kings Landing with Vhagar.
@Ld.8012 ай бұрын
12:40 idk if you know this but daemons dragon has a deviated septum and that’s why he sounds like that.
@rexibhazoboa70974 ай бұрын
Oldtown is far away from Kingslanding. It is its own city southwest of Kingslanding. It would take someone months to travel between both cities by horse.
@acdragonrider4 ай бұрын
32:10: Exactly. It’s not her fault for misinterpreting
@Darth_Nycta_133 ай бұрын
The Blackwoods and Brackens have ted each other for centuries.
@mauricecupido33254 ай бұрын
Oldtown is where Sam and Gilly go to the Citedal in GOT
@ahyesverygood13364 ай бұрын
23:03 - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@methuselahh_4 ай бұрын
oh and oldtown is a seperate place in the reach, its where the citadel is
@methuselahh_4 ай бұрын
aegon was 130 years ago before this show not 1000. also the brackens are the worst. one of the past agressions they did to the blackwoods was poisoning their weirwood tree. the blackwoods were once kings in the north thousands of years ago, but were pushed to the riverlands by the starks. they are the only house outside the north that still follow the old gods. in the books the three eyed raven was a targaryen-blackwood bastard, and he had a legendary rivalry with his half brother who was a bracken-targaryen bastard.
@SpiralSine64 ай бұрын
20:10 I took that more as “I forgive you for making me marry my asshole brother and making me queen”.
@danny55510004 ай бұрын
Kingslanding is like newyork ish and oldtown is huston in terms of spots on the map
@jtser83224 ай бұрын
Old Town is a port city Southwest of King's Landing. You remember The Citadel from GoT where Sam went to study? That's in Old Town.
@justinehercthehuman4 ай бұрын
Did Hera wear a green dress to do Team Green vs Team Black? 🤣 A for Effort.
@Darth_Nycta_133 ай бұрын
Aegon the Conqueror was about a 100-120 years ago by the time of the Dance of the Dragons
@harringtonmartin4 ай бұрын
The most important thing about this episode, to me, is the fact that Alicent was so defiant about what she suddenly learned. Too defiant. That strikes me as the catalyst for her eventual ultimate guilt. She will do something to help Rhaenyra in a later episode.
@acdragonrider4 ай бұрын
It’s too Much for her to grasp rn. I didn’t expect she would say yes to her
@rexibhazoboa70974 ай бұрын
What more did you want her to do? She understood her mistake but why would she carry so much guilt when the war would go on with or without her?
@antliveyabish95554 ай бұрын
Actually luke was first blood in the war
@rexibhazoboa70974 ай бұрын
If you dont count Aemonds blood as blood
@jagdrastarwars48273 ай бұрын
Love you both. Your together reaction is perfect.
@chibsskywalker35034 ай бұрын
Genius Ramsey sausage edit
@Disss1354 ай бұрын
You mention the blackwood that petitioned to marry rhaenyra. He actually died during that battle and is mentioned in the small council meeting they say something like samwell blackwood was slain. The boy at the beginning was named as davos blackwood in the subtitles and was his son apparently. Alot of people thought that this was bloody ben based on the casting but at the moment it is very vague on if it was or not. I assume not since I've heard he wasn't really an important figure until after this battle
@aerynsunx4 ай бұрын
Sorry, but no. Samwell Blackwood never appeared on the show. The Blackwood boy who made a proposal to Rhaenyra and then killed the Bracken suitor was named Willem Blackwood. Willem hasn't reappeared on the show. At least, not yet.
@xenagoldspink64364 ай бұрын
Oldtown is almost the very southish east of the continent where the Hightowers hail from. It is in the Reach which is governed but the Tyrell’s. We see Sam from the original Game of Thrones go there to study to be a Maester. It is where most of the knowledge of history lives. Also when Rhaenyra snook into Kings Landing it is just a sept and or a church of the 7. As the Sept Of Balor has not been built yet because Balor has not been born.
@rexibhazoboa70974 ай бұрын
South west.
@rexibhazoboa70974 ай бұрын
Church is the worship temple of christians if I'm not mistaken. They dont have churches in Westeros. Only septs.
@xenagoldspink64364 ай бұрын
@@rexibhazoboa7097 yes sorry I misspoke!
@xenagoldspink64364 ай бұрын
@@rexibhazoboa7097 I was just describing it to be understood :)
@rexibhazoboa70974 ай бұрын
Episode 4 is the halfway point
@mtonack4 ай бұрын
Wow! Did not even know you had another channel. We are avid watchers for your Star Wars content. Curious, who is Hera? I’ve gone back and watch some old reactions but have not seen an introduction. We will be adding these reactions to our watch list.
@Persephone_Personified4 ай бұрын
“what was the point of that scene?” ....are you kidding around..? The point is to show that Aemonds cousins really weren’t the instigator in the teasing and tearing down of his ego is his older brother Aegon. That seemed the final straw between them...
@daveemerson65494 ай бұрын
That dang chromakey lol
@SpiralSine64 ай бұрын
Brackens are dead, strategic Blackwood victory 💪💪💪🐦⬛🐦⬛🐦⬛
@acdragonrider4 ай бұрын
Much love for my hero Jahaerys 💛 💛 💛 💛 💛 💛
@victorleetapia5624 ай бұрын
I refuse to believe that the, "it's teeny-tiny" that followed Aemond's brothel scene was not purposeful!
@acdragonrider4 ай бұрын
15:32: Ugh idk why it’s so funny to weird.
@ernieojeda4 ай бұрын
Google westeros map and you'll see all the cities. It helped me out
@Keedeeg4 ай бұрын
She was supposed to "stay high and do not engage". Smh...
@Persephone_Personified4 ай бұрын
Out of all Daemons children, she is the most like her father.
@vonDarkken4 ай бұрын
Ya'll love talking over dialouge
@thorwuttudal14404 ай бұрын
You watch this. How the hell do you like the the simple storytelling that is new star Wars.